So there is this video on the internet...

[Raiven]

...that I'm consistantly drawn too. I don't know why, I can only last about 30 seconds before my head hurts and I'm left awe-struck by how terrible it actually is. I mean I know its supposed to be "fusion" and "wacky" but seriously. For a professional player to have created this I'm just confused, I mean I'm hoping I'm not the only one who cannot stand it so please mx, tell me I'm not alone.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6O0Lgyn6aE&feature=user

[naut]

i wish someone would custom-make me an artificial defecation aid, then i could sound like that guy.

[Raiven]

Ah I knew you'd agree Dylan.

[Phalanx]

Though i do agree with you, I think it's frowned upon here to post videos to make an example of why a certain band/artist sucks.

I think the video shows what happens when you put 3 musicians who all think they're pioneers together with a drummer who's trying desperately hard to keep some level of groove going

[naut]

dear god, this one is tops:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6h_IA7TSkI

entitled "Where Does It Go"

...indeed.:lol:

[naut]

Though i do agree with you, I think it's frowned upon here to post videos to make an example of why a certain band/artist sucks.

yeah but it's semi-productive in the sense that he's not merely bagging on it, but asking for other people's opinions.

loopholes.:naughty:

[Raiven]

Though i do agree with you, I think it's frowned upon here to post videos to make an example of why a certain band/artist sucks.

I think the video shows what happens when you put 3 musicians who all think they're pioneers together with a drummer who's trying desperately hard to keep some level of groove going

Oh I'm definately not doing one of those immature "omg he suxxxx lawlawlawl!!!oneone22CHORD!" things. It is a serious question in that I'm sure someone could tell me what I am overlooking and if there is some thing I'm just not "getting" but as far as I can tell there isn't anything to get.

[Phalanx]

yeah but it's semi-productive in the sense that he's not merely bagging on it, but asking for other people's opinions.

loopholes.:naughty:

fair enough, but we both know exactly where this thread is going to head :p

dear god, this one is tops:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6h_IA7TSkI

entitled "Where Does It Go" :lol:

...indeed.

Is it just more or does his worlds first 15 string bass(the one in the video is fretless) sound like ****. I mean seriously, I paid £300 for my Fretless, and it sounds a million times better than this fellating piece of ****

whoops

I mean lol, seriously, about one person clapped at the end of that video and they're all like "aww shucks".

[Misanthropic]

are those players famous or something? didn't think it was too special, just pretty boring riffage with a relatively steady pulse and a guitarist wanking over it... perhaps not very good, but that's subjective. as for music "impossible to understand" or whatever, i don't think that's very special either, but I guess that wasn't your point. but why did you bring this one up? youtube's full of videos that doesn't give me anything or that i don't find good.

[naut]

fair enough, but we both know exactly where this thread is going to head :p

oh for sure, and i'm gonna suckle the tit dry, in a manner of speaking.

and yes, it sounded...unappealing. what a shame, i hope he didn't pay for it.:(

[Phalanx]

are those players famous or something?

Jauqo is one of the first bassists to play very very low notes (C# F# B E tuning or something like that, shame he isn't in these videos) which is about the only thing he's known for. I mean, I remember watching a couple of his slap bass things on Google Video and was like "oh, just another lame solo bassist strutting his fluff" but I never actually knew him and his music was this bad

didn't think it was too special, just pretty boring riffage with a relatively steady pulse and a guitarist wanking over it...

That's almost what Jazz is - they're so totally jazz fusion. Except Jazz and Jazz Fusion is actually good.

urgh, even his name is pretentious, how the hell do you even pronounce Jauqo? There's no "u" after the "q".

[Raiven]

are those players famous or something? didn't think it was too special, just pretty boring riffage with a relatively steady pulse and a guitarist wanking over it... perhaps not very good, but that's subjective. as for music "impossible to understand" or whatever, i don't think that's very special either, but I guess that wasn't your point. but why did you bring this one up? youtube's full of videos that doesn't give me anything or that i don't find good.

The bassist is "famous" he's the dude that had the subcontra bass so he's to blame for the Low C theory and what not. And I brought it up because for someone who is famous or renowned enough to get custom bass endorsement and stuff I'd have assumed he could do something credible or at least musical?

[fingers mccoy]

guitarist was the worst part gotta say

[Misanthropic]

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That's almost what Jazz is - they're so totally jazz fusion. Except Jazz and Jazz Fusion is actually good.

urgh, even his name is pretentious, how the hell do you even pronounce Jauqo? There's no "u" after the "q".

allright, seems like a pretty redundant guy. and i'm not familiar with very much jazz, but i thought that was pretty un-jazzy with the bassist's riffing instead of walking and the guitarist's rock-ish tone. of course the camera recording made it all sound even worse.

[Phalanx]

allright, seems like a pretty redundant guy. and i'm not familiar with very much jazz, but i thought that was pretty un-jazzy with the bassist's riffing instead of walking and the guitarist's rock-ish tone. of course the camera recording made it all sound even worse.

Well, maybe it's rock, sounded a bit jazz fusiony to me. Jazz isn't necessarilly trumpets and walking basslines though.

I just went on his website, you can listen to his album aptly named "The Low C# Theory" (cunt yeah?). Though it's definately not as bad as those videos, it's still a compilation of much faggery daggery doo in terms of you can barely here the bass line, proves his theory sucks and still has terrible guitar playing

[trumpeter]

I'm fairly certain anyone who calls themself Jauqo X-III is the single most pretentious person ever.

[Raiven]

Well, maybe it's rock, sounded a bit jazz fusiony to me. Jazz isn't necessarilly trumpets and walking basslines though.

I just went on his website, you can listen to his album aptly named "The Low C# Theory" (cunt yeah?). Though it's definately not as bad as those videos, it's still a compilation of much faggery daggery doo in terms of you can barely here the bass line, proves his theory sucks and still has terrible guitar playing

(hi5) Yeah if anyone ever reads his posts on talkbass or in any publication you do realise that this man is just a cunt. Maybe a c#nt to be fitting?

[theosd]

Oh dear........ No really, this is the most pretentious jazz wank I've seen on here. HaViC ought to come reclaim his throne! (Sarcasm, but only just).

From his site:

"These tracks are the product of almost 30 years of experience playing bass."

[theosd]

Also of interest is this video where he displays a technique too similar to actual wanking for, I believe, anyone's taste... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oV10D9Mp7_8&feature=related

[rh15951]

Oh dear. It sounds like a band of 13 year olds who just got their first guitars at their first ever practice.

[The Forgotten Bassist]

Also of interest is this video where he displays a technique too similar to actual wanking for, I believe, anyone's taste... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oV10D9Mp7_8&feature=related

As dodgy as it looks I think he soudns pretty cool in that video. As for that "band" of his in the orginal post that really is horrific. You can almost see the drummer giving up hope lol

What I'd love is that if a few seconds after we all gave up on the vid it got really great, that'd really be a kick in the balls

[theosd]

As dodgy as it looks I think he soudns pretty cool in that video. As for that "band" of his in the orginal post that really is horrific. You can almost see the drummer giving up hope lol

What I'd love is that if a few seconds after we all gave up on the vid it got really great, that'd really be a kick in the balls

Nah what he's playing sounds ok, but they are just practiced riffs, he does nothing interesting and loses the rhythm after a while. He has ok rhythm, but no consistency.

And his fretless intonation is AWFUL

[Killer Fridge]

Seriously, I actually lol'd when "Where Did It Go" started. And then continued.

And then kept going.

I mean, if this is how good someone is, musically not technically, after 30 years, they really should have given up a while ago.

Music is meant to be just that, music, not some mathmatical bullshit, that, if you contrive it in some way theoretically works. Woo, if you write all the gashy things youve just played out and work out that it should theoretically sound....something, then well done. It still sounds like *** though.

[Akira]

As bad as that is, I would say it is about 35% lower on the suckometer than anything with his knuckle bass.

[Phalanx]

I've been reading some of his posts on Talkbass and it seems that all the posters on there are completely oblivious to his level of egocentric fail. I really do think most of us here could not only play in a band (regardless of genre) better than him but also do a solo performance (even making a brief stuttering pause to say it's improv) better than him as well.

[studmuffin]

...that I'm consistantly drawn too. I don't know why, I can only last about 30 seconds before my head hurts and I'm left awe-struck by how terrible it actually is. I mean I know its supposed to be "fusion" and "wacky" but seriously. For a professional player to have created this I'm just confused, I mean I'm hoping I'm not the only one who cannot stand it so please mx, tell me I'm not alone.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6O0Lgyn6aE&feature=user

that sounded like ***. really.
if anyone can stand it try to make it ti 4:30 for the big tap solo. :amaze:

[DanD]

lol i've met that guy

i asked him his name and he spelt it out for me

j-a-u-q-o-I-I-I-X



EDIT: also, he was talking about this idea he had where he got a bunch of musicians to all play different songs at the same time. I assume that this is that idea.

[One Groovin Clown]

And this guy is viewed highly at TB too, god that place makes me lulz.

[Az_Holl]

And this guy is viewed highly at TB too, god that place makes me lulz.
All ive ever seen him do at TB is be a jerk... and then everyone goes and agrees with him...

[irishslappop]

it's like they all pooped in a blender, put it on puree and want me to drink it...

[Jaded]

EDIT: also, he was talking about this idea he had where he got a bunch of musicians to all play different songs at the same time. I assume that this is that idea.
lulz


I don't think I've laughed this hard since "My Pal Foot Foot". "Where does it go" almost made me feel embarrassed for them. How does that guy get gigs? I think I'm going to have to go make fun of him on talkbass.

[Phalanx]

I can't stop wanting to hear from him, so I did post on TB. Chances are I'll get banned or something

[Misanthropic]

wanna link to that TB thread or something?

[rh15951]

ya link plz

[Phalanx]

sigh, TB is full of fail and aids

http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=389172

[rh15951]

Glad I'm not registered there :thumb:

[exit]

Hey, i aint playing bassfor a while now and i think that video was a bit bad too however, I checked some video's ofhim from the last 2 years and they don't sound that bad. In fact i know i can't play it like he does. Am i missing something here?

[Phalanx]

they're such douches on there, i cba posting there again

[rh15951]

Also, I notice how everyone who replied on TB completely ignored that video and took it as you criticising his playing in general :lol: I figure they must all be deaf or something.

[exit]

I watched the video again and well, allthough he can do more "tricks" than me, the part after 4 minutes is just... out of tune and he keeps playing it for 2 minutes in a row :s

[rh15951]

RH I-V-IX-V-I
lawl I had to :p

[exit]

Flame War!! :d

[rh15951]

:lol:

[Pinhead13]

:lol: x 21534315451

[exit]

It's like this guy is worshipped too, okay, maybe phalanx did put it a bit bluntly. Anyway, i visited his site and watched some other video's.

First of all, its not my kinda thing and his other video's arent as bad as that one. In fact, only the video's posted with "The Jauqoi III-X unit" sound not as good. Unless i"m missing something like you know, the modern jazz music or fusion whatever you call it. Sounds bad to me also :$

EDIT:

"and for the record i did watch the video... and regardless of it's content your way out of line!"

regardless of its content. Isnt that like saying, well okay it sucks but i don't want to say it in that words?

[rh15951]

Its basically 3 guitarists fighting for the limelight all playing a different song :lol:

[fingers mccoy]

yeh it's wanky

listening to it requires too much of an attention span and an ability to sift through crap for me

like there are some nice moments and each player has a couple of nice ideas per track but it doesn't cut it for groovy, idiosyncratic fusion which it's obviously meant to be

[rh15951]

yeh it's wanky

listening to it requires too much of an attention span and an ability to sift through crap for me

like there are some nice moments and each player has a couple of nice ideas per track but it doesn't cut it for groovy, idiosyncratic fusion which it's obviously meant to be

Yeah but everyone on there completely missed the point and took it as an attack on Jaco IIIXIVVVLLD playing ability.

[Spaceman Spiff]

BUT YOU GUYZ JUST DoN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT HE'S TRYING TO DOooOOO WITH THIS RECORDING!! DUH!!!11!

[rh15951]

BUT YOU GUYZ JUST DoN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT HE'S TRYING TO DOooOOO WITH THIS RECORDING!! DUH!!!11!

omfg

Whats funny too is the thick bastards thought we were all Phalanx...

[Sablate McNuff]

"...regardless of its content..."

What an awesome post.

It basically sums up as:

"Regardless of the quality and validity of your argument, you're still wrong."

It kind of reminds me of the movie Thank You for Smoking.

[Spaceman Spiff]

omfg

Whats funny too is the thick bastards thought we were all Phalanx...

:lol:

They're all taking it so personally. And it seems that you need to prove you're better than someone before commenting (maybe only commenting negatively) on their playing.

[rh15951]

You have been banned for the following reason:
die troll die.

Date the ban will be lifted: Never

Love it.

[Spaceman Spiff]

I also like how some of them were making that stupid jealousy/envy claim.

"You just wish you could do that!"

[rh15951]

Oh well, 30 minutes on talkbass before getting banned was quite enough for one lifetime :)

[Jaded]

His solo performances sound like me attempting to f*ck around with solo bass when I'm sitting around high in my room. Lots of major 3rd double stops and lame little noodly phrases that don't go anywhere. When he endorses gear, is he actually a paid endorser, or did he just up and decide to "endorse" epifani or whatever?

[Spaceman Spiff]

Oh man, it's getting hilarious over at TB. It's so lame that I can't help but laugh. I want to register just to tell them how pathetic they all are.

[exit]

and get banned :D Or ppl might think you are Phalanx

[rh15951]

and get banned :D Or ppl might think you are Phalanx

hahahaha

[Raiven]

I think we've learnt that you cannot directly tell someone they're bad because they're famous on the internet.

Remember, that music isn't noise, it's just a different school of jazz that we are too feeble to understand what with our 2-5-1's and 1-4-5's and our hipping and hopping and rocking and rolling.

Jesus.

[Spaceman Spiff]

^ ftw.


:lol: :lol:

[exit]

... our hipping and hopping and rocking and rolling.


Did you get that from a Cosby Show 'cause it think i heard it before

[Raiven]

Did you get that from a Cosby Show 'cause it think i heard it before

i got it from your mum.

LAWL

that's not funny.

And nah not from that.

[exit]

I think it was used in The simpsons too :D

And my mom doesnt even know what music is ;)

[Son of Magni]

you guys are pretty pathetic, you know that?

[Raiven]

you guys are pretty pathetic, you know that?

well see. This whole thing took a bizzare twist. I wanted an actual discussion to see if anyone actually got the music and could explain it.

Then they ran over to TB and pissed off all the dads and famous people.

[Spaceman Spiff]

I watched the video and thought it sounded like crap. That's all. Sure, maybe they were doing something so complex and something I've never heard of so I just don't understand it, or something, but I'd rather listen to John Zorn's Kristallnacht, which includes a 12 minute song of glass shattering.

[Phalanx]

oh hai gais, what did I miss?

[Raiven]

I watched the video and thought it sounded like crap. That's all. Sure, maybe they were doing something so complex and something I've never heard of so I just don't understand it, or something, but I'd rather listen to John Zorn's Kristallnacht, which includes a 12 minute song of glass shattering.

Well aparrrantly its these things: http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5049023&postcount=8


*shrugs* w/e

[Son of Magni]

well see. This whole thing took a bizzare twist. I wanted an actual discussion to see if anyone actually got the music and could explain it.

Then they ran over to TB and pissed off all the dads and famous people.

Ok, and I lasted more than 30 seconds but couldn't listen to the whole thing either. But anyone that's slapping and tapping on a 12 string octaved is pushing the envelope.

I just don't see the point of publicly diss'ing him, especially Phalanx taking it to TB to see what kind of reaction he can stir up. Like, "I mean, I know all your online material is quite subpar...", that's just flagrant trolling imo.

[Spaceman Spiff]

Well aparrrantly its these things: http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5049023&postcount=8


*shrugs* w/e

It sounds like it means everybody just does whatever the **** they want all at the same time, then they call it a song.

[Phalanx]

just checked out the posts on talkbass. None of them seem to be commenting on the music at all :\

[Raiven]

It sounds like it means everybody just does whatever the **** they want all at the same time, then they call it a song.

That's what jazz is......




(a)

[exit]

Maybe we should all just get over it because all has been said and from now on the post will just get harsher and harsher...

[Phalanx]

yeah, bit too much controversy for one night methinks

[Spaceman Spiff]

About harmolodics, some bit of a quotation on Wikipedia has someone saying, "nobody solos, everybody solos."

That's what I said in my post. Everybody just does whatever the hell they want at the same time, and when they all decide to stop playing, that's the song.

Anyway, closed.