Remember how good Calculating Infinity was?

[pixiesfanyo]

Yeah, **** DEP. They are so ridiculously terrible now. I remember when they seemed like people you didn't want to **** with. Now they seem like the type of people that listen to Justin Timberlake ironically.

[Cocaine]

but the new album has mad electronic stuff that's innovative right?

right?

[Knifeboy]

I haven't heard the new stuff.. But I agree... Where's the band that seemed clinically insane gone off to?

[AlienEater]

I do remember Calculating Infinity and I haven't heard any new stuff

[team_racket]

infinity was class. miss machine was poor and i refuse to listen to the new stuff.

[Cocaine]

I liked Miss Machine as well.

This album is just them playing Panasonic Youth at various speeds, with a lot of interludes with tacky "industrial drumming" and regurgitated hooks. There's maybe one or two good or at least semi-decent tracks.

[Times Ten]

Some of the tracks on their new album sounded pretty good. I'm gonna check out it in its entirety later.

[RetiredAt21]

**** DEP. Don't like'em at all.

jun wee (stop) wee wee wee jun (stop) jun wee wee jun (stop) weeeeeeee

****ing retarded.

[Aeaon]

Anything before Miss Machine was amazing. Now they sound like a god awful metal band with some hardcore traits.

[RetiredAt21]

I think they've always sounded god awful.

[pixiesfanyo]

wait, so you don't like them?

[RetiredAt21]

Never have, never will.

[Cocaine]

And he'll try his hardest to make sure nobody forgets. It doesn't even matter if anyone asked.

[RetiredAt21]

And he'll try his hardest to make sure nobody forgets. It doesn't even matter if anyone asked.

No one asked you your opinion either, dick.

[Cocaine]

jun jun weeeeeeeeee aryan kampf jun jun weeeeee

[pixiesfanyo]

the dillinger escape panzer

[i am the robots]

I don't remember Calculating Infinity being good at all, this thread confuses me.

[pixiesfanyo]

I don't remember Calculating Infinity being good at all, this thread confuses me.

understandable.

[SubtleDagger]

Never have, never will.
does your girlfriend like them

[Neoteric]

i like Calculating Infinity in small doses

and i hate Miss Machine though

[i am the robots]

Dillinger Escape Plan is such a Norma Jean rip-off.

[SubtleDagger]

yeah they're not as original as musical pioneers like skycamefalling

[i am the robots]

Skycamefalling is actually good, don't hate.

[Neoteric]

nah

[whiteminority]

Dillinger Escape Plan is such a Norma Jean rip-off.

Are you ****ing kidding me? DEP was around way before Norma Jean came around and started ripping off Botch left and right and all around.

[pixiesfanyo]

The best part about Norma Jean is how they try to copy Botch but really only play like five different notes in any given song. So much open chord riffing from those faggots.

[whiteminority]

I won't lie, Bless the Martyr, Kiss the Child is an awesome albeit generic album.

[RetiredAt21]

nah

Dude, **** you, Skycamefalling is good.

[cobert]

It's sad that I cant tell if Justin is being serious or not.

[Cocaine]

Would it even matter?

[Eliminator]

He's not completely serious unless he says something sucks balls.

[Times Ten]

The new album is really good. I wanna see them when they come through here.

[BuddyBigsby]

Yeah DEP are no job for a cowboy.

[RetiredAt21]

It's sad that I cant tell if Justin is being serious or not.

I was being serious. I like Skycamefalling.

[Understanding]

yes.

[BuddyBigsby]

I'll back you up on that justin.

[okay]

the new singer should be shot for covering suger coated sour

[RetiredAt21]

the new singer should be shot for covering suger coated sour

They should all be shot for being in such a gay band that sucks balls.

[okay]

pennie and dimitri arent in it anymore so thats okay

[BuddyBigsby]

i'm not big on dep but any member of that band can play in circles around 99% of the music you listen to justin.

[RetiredAt21]

I wish people would shut the **** up about Pennie. Jesus H. Christ, he's just a drummer.

[RetiredAt21]

i'm not big on dep but any member of that band can play in circles around 99% of the music you listen to justin.

No way? Really? Thanks for the update Captain Obvious, I had no idea.

[BuddyBigsby]

i'm just saying i guess they're not as cool as whatever 10 bands you heard a couple seconds of and made threads about this week

[SubtleDagger]

I wish people would shut the **** up about Pennie. Jesus H. Christ, he's just a drummer.
He was the only really important member of DEP

Also he's ridiculous and if you don't realize that you have issues, there's very few drummers as original as him period

[RetiredAt21]

i'm just saying i guess they're not as cool as whatever 10 bands you heard a couple seconds of and made threads about this week

Your insults are so tired. All you ever say is "LOL I BET HE JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS BAND ON MYSPACE TODAY WAT A FAG." Why don't you just stop being such a dick?

[BuddyBigsby]

stop crying baby boy

[santi3hg]

Only release from DEP I like.


Chris is flat out amazing. Very good drummer.

[Understanding]

i have to give it another listen.

[RunAmokRampant]

Mouths of Ghosts is a great track.

Some goods songs on the new album. Particularly

Nong Eye Gong
Party Smasher
Horse Hunter
Mouth of ghosts

Downright horrible tracks include

Milk Lizard
Black BUbblegum

Rest are mediocre atm.

[Charizard]

Are you ****ing kidding me? DEP was around way before Norma Jean came around and started ripping off Botch left and right and all around.
It was a joke, rofl.

Yeah DEP are no job for a cowboy.
No, they seriously aren't. The Doom EP slays anything DEP has ever released.

Just because I like some bands you don't, it doesn't mean my opinion is immediately invalidated, its just a childish attitude.

stop crying baby boy

I rarely agree with Justin, but he's kind of right. You try too hard to be insulting.

[BuddyBigsby]

everything i say on here is tongue in cheek and you have some god awful (and yes invalid) opinions on music.

[flesh]

No, they seriously aren't. The Doom EP slays anything DEP has ever released.
wait, wait.....whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?!?!?!?!11111?!?!!?1! 111?!?

[SGlove]

No, no.
It's ok.
He likes pokemon.

[lunchforthesky]

Was that guy shitting with JFAC or is he that dumb?

[AndreTheHyena]

Calculating Infinity rules. Miss Machine sucked. I'll give the new album an honest chance.

Also, when I saw them a few years back with Zao and Unearth, it was seriously one of the best shows I've ever seen in my entire life. Greg threw a box fan and hit me in the head.

[Mr. Ron]

I always thought they weren't such a big deal...

[Charizard]

you have some god awful (and yes invalid) opinions on music.

False.
Was that guy poopting with JFAC or is he that dumb?

Blah, I really like Job For A Cowboy's old stuff. I enjoy it a lot more than I enjoy Dillinger Escape Plan, why is that a big deal?

[Eliminator]

HAHA THIS FAG LIKES JFAC???!?!?!?!

[cobert]

WOW WHAT A MAJOR TOOLBAG

[Charizard]

Regardless, I suck cocks.

[SugarCoatedSour]

Ya it was a pimp album. But they had their influences in mind more so than in any of their other albums. Miss Machine was the product of an enflamed ego and the "math-metal" and "calcules-core" and "dy(dx=df(x))dx-core" labels. Which turned them into a surprising mix of mainstream "emo" and "epilepsy-core". But Dmitri was the better vocalist for the group, and they were much cooler when they were idolizing Mahavishnu Orchestra, and Cynic

[RunAmokRampant]

I thought Dillinger had always an inflamed ego from the start.

[BuddyBigsby]

False.


Blah, I really like Job For A Cowboy's old stuff. I enjoy it a lot more than I enjoy Dillinger Escape Plan, why is that a big deal?

I'm pretty sure there is - for the first time in the history of MX - a unanimous consensus in this forum that your post prior to the one I am quoting, along with the latter part of the present post, has invalidated anything you say from here on out.

Oh and all of your posts in the R/M Metalcore thread.

[BuddyBigsby]

Oh and for the rec I don't really like DEP on recording but definitely one of the best live sets ever. I just wish I could've seen them in the Dimitri days when they were way crazier with the fire and stuff.

[santi3hg]

Theres a video where Dimitri went ****ing crazy and lit Chris's old set on fire. Was posted in the D&P months ago. And yeah live they are ****ing insane.

[pixiesfanyo]

Theres a video where Dimitri went ****ing crazy and lit Chris's old set on fire. Was posted in the D&P months ago. And yeah live they are ****ing insane.

was greg

[Cocaine]

Theres a video where Dimitri went ****ing crazy and lit Chris's old set on fire. Was posted in the D&P months ago. And yeah live they are ****ing insane.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2JYR50qzMsc

Greg did it. Hellfest 02.

[santi3hg]

****. W/e.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

irony is a dead scene is their best work easy.

[cbmartinez]

Yeah, the only DEP I ever had was like a couple songs from each album and I must say When Good Dogs Do Bad Things was definitely the most interesting track.

[cobert]

Mike Patton is the man.

[SugarCoatedSour]

Mike Patton is the man.
Mike Patton is a highly respected jizz trap in music.

[Charizard]

I'm pretty sure there is - for the first time in the history of MX - a unanimous consensus in this forum that your post prior to the one I am quoting, along with the latter part of the present post, has invalidated anything you say from here on out.

Oh and all of your posts in the R/M Metalcore thread.

So in other words I like music you don't. Okay, cool.

[RetiredAt21]

Regardless, I suck cocks.

No wonder why so many people on here rip on you.

[BuddyBigsby]

dude is getting burned by Justin.

life sucks.

[Charizard]

/an hero

[BuddyBigsby]

and charizard i sincerely hope you're like 16 tops because there's no other excuse to be jocking the music you do in the year 2007.

[Charizard]

I'm 18 bro. :(

I like what I like, why you gotta hat.

[santi3hg]

I think its just ritual in H/E to be ripped by Scott till you learn better.

[Charizard]

Explain, "learn better."

I enjoy bands of the sort, but I don't call them hardcore or anything like that. :(

[BuddyBigsby]

I think its just ritual in H/E to be ripped by Scott till you learn better.

The funny thing is I'm kind of a bitter guy but not really mean and I really don't give a **** kids like thsi dude. I hate myself for wasting my time but its just too easy on this forum and without Niko everyone is too nice and I feel like I have to pick up the slack. Plus its pretty much the only reason to make posts because this forum is so dead.

[Charizard]

What's wrong with civil conversation. You sir are a worthless ruffian. :o

[santi3hg]

Yeah true. Niko was the one who hazed me.

[Hbp]

I'm still excited for the new album, you traitors :mad:

[AndreTheHyena]

Scott thinks I whine.

[BuddyBigsby]

That's the whole point of a message board. Someone's gotta do it. Its all part of the natural balance of things.

[AndreTheHyena]

Suck it!

[BuddyBigsby]

And for the record Niko is a sheepish little sweetheart in real life.

[Charizard]

I lol'd

[RetiredAt21]

And for the record Niko is a sheepish little sweetheart in real life.

Have you met him?

[santi3hg]

They made a thread about it at S&F and how Niko tore a bible in the pit. Or was that Reiner.

[40 oz 2 freedom]

It was Niko

[SugarCoatedSour]

It was Niko

Nah, it was Slick Rick

[whiteminority]

And for the record Niko is a sheepish little sweetheart in real life.

I simply cannot picture this.

[santi3hg]

It was Niko

I meant it was Reiner who posted saying Niko did it or Scott.

[40 oz 2 freedom]

It was me I think

[iamrockzorz]

ANYWAY...
new albums a grower, not all that bad.

No calculating infinity, but i might end up liking more than miss machine.

I <3 under the running board ?_?

[jversluis88]

I suppose I'm the only one that prefers Miss Machine. I've got the new album on pre-order too. Hate?

[SugarCoatedSour]

I suppose I'm the only one that prefers Miss Machine. I've got the new album on pre-order too. Hate?
I hate you. You ruined my life.

[i am the robots]

Yeah, I'm gonna kill myself because of him.

[ZaaR]

calculating infinity was so bomb, and i don't mind miss machine that much... it's got some solid songs but stuff like setting fire and unretrofied completely ruined the album. i haven't given the new cd a listen to yet, but i assume it won't be all that good just because of the direction i see them going in.

[RunAmokRampant]

Setting fire was a good song other than the crappy vocals. Unretrofied is just horrible on the same scale as Milk Lizard.

New album is good, I don't mind the direction they've taken. Wasn't expecting a Calculating Infinity Part 2.

[ZaaR]

yeah, that's the thing, i'm expecting very little from their newest release so it might just exceed expectations.

[YDload]

i dont care what kind of music they put out on record, their live shows will always be the best thing about them. i'll miss pennie but as long as the new drummer can play his **** and make some beats of his own (which apparently he can) they'll still be worth watching

[ZaaR]

yeah, i've seen them twice and they've delivered big performances both times.

[YDload]

i saw them at the Rex in Pittsburgh WITHOUT Weinman and they still put on a good show

[IsItLuck?]

I was skeptical to see them on their tour coming up but I think I will anyway since they are playing with Genghis Tron.

[iamrockzorz]

i saw them at the Rex in Pittsburgh WITHOUT Weinman and they still put on a good show

YES!!! good show. You going to the show at the Rex on December 5th ?

DEP and Genghis Tron :-D

[Times Ten]

lol@Genghis Tron. Worst band.

[i am the robots]

Their first album was fun. Not really something to take seriously though.

[RunAmokRampant]

Could say that about a lot of metalcore acts unfortunately.

[i am the robots]

True. What's wrong with fun music though?

[RunAmokRampant]

I see fun music as something to listen to at parties, like Reel Big Fish or Beastie Boys etc. I can't really see listening to Calculating Infinity as a fun experience, an enjoyable experience nonetheless, but not in the same terms as fun.

[i am the robots]

True, but some metalcore is just fun to listen to at parties tbh. Like Aftershock.

[40 oz 2 freedom]

You must go to some wack *** parties dog

[HNLzero]

I don't really see the perspective that DEP needs to repeat Calculating to be "great" again. It is a good album, but you can only do so much with the "HEY IM SHOUTING RIGHT OFF THE BAT WITH CHROMATIC CHORD PROGRESSIONS AND FURIOUS DRUMS" sound.
You can say the same with Miss Machine doing the 7/4 BAP BAP BAPBAPBAP kind of sound, but it's kind of unfair to say Calc was groundbreaking and superior because it just followed a formula, whether or not you like it more than Miss or now Ire Works.

[SubtleDagger]

They don't need to repeat it they need to build off it

The Patton EP kind of took it in a cool direction which is kind of what I was expecting, and like a third of Miss Machine was really cool too, but they're just going the entirely wrong way

[Times Ten]

lol...

"Grind listening party: The Dillinger Escape Plan"

[i am the robots]

They have like... spazzy parts.

[DFelon204409]

ya i dunno

[i am the robots]

so like theyre tech math-grindcore rite?

[RunAmokRampant]

What DEP is good at is eluding definite labelling. So I just say technical metal because I couldn't be arsed to intricately pigeon-hole.

[ZaaR]

so like theyre tech math-grindcore rite?

i wouldn't call them grind...

[Times Ten]

Actually bought this album today, btw. It's real good. I like it a lot.

[i am the robots]

i wouldn't call them grind...

I wouldn't call that post serious...

[Firecracker]

I don't believe you can pigeon hole them. Calculating Infinity was so so good.
The new one seemed a bit lame, like they can't be arsed in all honestly.

[YDload]

if they made albums that sounded similar to each other than they wouldnt be DEP.

[ZaaR]

i have a DEP hoodie that i bought one of the times i've seen them, yeah i feel pretty cool.

[Cocaine]

I have a shirt that was green when I bought it but somehow ended up being grey by the time the gig finished.

[Phalanx]

Calculating Infinity is (was, i never know which of these two words to put) a really good album, Miss Machine was really good as well i thought, had a couple of songs which were trying to be a bit more mainstream appealling (Setting fire to sleeping giants and Unretrofied but those songs own, especially the breakdown bits) and Sunshine the Werewolf is pretty serious business.

The new album i can't really get into though, the only song I actually like that much is Black Bubblegum and that's only because it has a catchy riff. Most people like the song "lurch" but that song sounds like a guy masturbating and never reaching climax

[omgwtfboogie]

The only good part of Ire Works is Dimitri's twenty second cameo in "Fix Your Face" and that's because it flashes the potential of the Calculating Infinity era.

[Firecracker]

Though the albums being different define DEP, the songs being different, like wotcha said about unretrofied and setting fire to sleeping giants on miss machine. I just thought that all the songs lacked the power they had with some of the stuff which makes them so brutal.

[flesh]

I'll check out the new album later this week, I'm hoping its not so dissapointing.

[santi3hg]

This so went off Jared's original point.

[whiteminority]

I wouldn't call that post serious...

They're metalcore dipshit.

[AndreTheHyena]

I finally listened to Ire Works, and it was ok. It sounded pretty much like Miss Machine. The first few tracks had promise, but "Black Bubblegum" really blows. I kinda dig the electronic tracks until Greg starts singing. They remind me of Aphex Twin.

[Charizard]

They're metalcore dipshit.
There's this crazy thing called the internet where, sometimes, people say stupid things as a joke.

[Alcore]

They're metalcore dipshit.

No they're not, they're post mathcore tech grind metal you idiot!!!

:rolleyes: what does it matter what genre they are, its pretty obvious already they're not the easiest band to categorise

[Phalanx]

No they're not, they're post mathcore tech grind metal you idiot!!!

:rolleyes: what does it matter what genre they are, its pretty obvious already they're not the easiest band to categorise

don't forget jazz!

[RunAmokRampant]

No they're not, they're post mathcore tech grind metal you idiot!!!

I'm not great with internet sarcasm, but that is a joke right?

[AndreTheHyena]

"Milk Lizard" sounds like Rocket from the Crypt.

[BuddyBigsby]

can someone move this festering pile to r/m?

[Cocaine]

Please don't. Just lock it.