The Official R&M Emo/Screamo Thead

[Txus]

Also, has any one here ever heard of Drift? Heavy screamo similar to One Eyed God Prophecy and Union Of Uranus.
I think I've heard the name somwhere, never the music though. Sounds tight, I love Union of Uranus!

Btw, the DED was fantastic man!

[Doop]

I think I've heard the name somwhere, never the music though. Sounds tight, I love Union of Uranus!

Btw, the DED was fantastic man!

Then you have to scope this http://www.mediafire.com/?1tsleiwcxoi
Drift/Jonah split both do the Uranus type sound.

And I'm glade you enjoyed that DED.

[Txus]

Awesome dude! I'll give some feedback later.

Song of Zarathustra are so ****ing good btw!

[Doop]

I'm going to check them out.

[Iluvatar]

Eh Song of Zarathustra are alright, I always liked The Book of Dead Names better.

i always associate them together because of stupid interpunk and their lame ordering crap.

[Txus]

Definitely, get The Birth of Tragedy.

Well, A View From High Tides is also a pretty good album.

Any Shikari fans in here?

[Doop]

I loooove Shikari! The split with Louise Cyphre is amazing.

[Txus]

Yeah, great split!

Robot Wars is also outsanding.

and the La Quiete / Louise Cyphre split is also magnificent imo.

[Doop]

Yeah, great split!

Robot Wars is also outsanding.

and the La Quiete / Louise Cyphre split is also magnificent imo.

Agreed for sure.
La Quiete are so awesome, easily one of my favorite bands ever.
The self titled 7" one of the best records ever imo.

[Txus]

They are quickly becoming my favorite band in the whole genre.

[i am the robots]

I forgot to put Ekkaia on my list. They rule.

hell yes son! hlel yes son!

[pixiesfanyo]

got my Baader Brains record in the mail.

pretty good stuff, packaging is awesome.

[RetiredAt21]

Who else likes The Khayembii Communique?

[Iluvatar]

Good stuff, especially "AM 1200" and "How To Change an Addiction"

[RetiredAt21]

I really like "Death Of An Aspiring Icon".

[Doop]

One Eyed God Prophecy are amazing and should be discussed more.

[Hbp]

A murmur from the ruins echoes softly as the roots undo, and the branch becomes...

[Iluvatar]

no dude band sucks.

And listening to One Eyed God Prophecy, they sound pretty decent but I don't know about amazing.

[Hbp]

yay for hbp he can sing!

[Doop]

Funeral Diner are awesome.
bump.

[Bordello]

Yeah they are.

Been jamming some Off Minor and Joshua Fit for Battle. About to listen to some Heaven in Her Arms.

[RunAmokRampant]

Listening to Sed Non Satiata atm. awesome stuff.

[Bordello]

This Heaven in Her Arms album is way overproduced. If they would just back off the loudness and clean sound it would be way better. Drums are kind of annoying too.

[iarescientists]

i can't get into joshua fit for battle

[Bordello]

They rule why not.

[iarescientists]

nothing about them stands out to me

[iarescientists]

i think i held my ground

[DFelon204409]

I had a recent revelation that the best emo band is probably You and I.

[i am the robots]

You And I is alright.

[i am the robots]

saetia's bassist recorded my best friend's band, and apparently like the only thing he does is prank call malefic

[whiteminority]

no dude band sucks.

And listening to One Eyed God Prophecy, they sound pretty decent but I don't know about amazing.

Are you shitting me? The Toddler LP is one of the most destructive/devastating hardcore albums of the 90s. They helped lay the groundwork for all those great bands like Orchid, Ampere et al. To say that band is pretty decent is sign of ignorance because any educated punk can tell the strength of that band and their influence.

[i am the robots]

Actually, Will says that Union Of Uranus was his main influence, or I think that's what I've read.

[Txus]

I had a recent revelation that the best emo band is probably You and I.

Not the best, but still very up in the list.

I ****ing love the song "Forever Lasts a Moment".

[Hbp]

Yay for Joshua Fit For Battle

[Iluvatar]

Are you shitting me? The Toddler LP is one of the most destructive/devastating hardcore albums of the 90s. They helped lay the groundwork for all those great bands like Orchid, Ampere et al. To say that band is pretty decent is sign of ignorance because any educated punk can tell the strength of that band and their influence.

I'm sorry that I don't they're ****ing baller :(.

[Iluvatar]

wait guys we dont talk about hot cross and off minor enough

this needs to be accomplished.

[DFelon204409]

Not the best, but still very up in the list.

I ****ing love the song "Forever Lasts a Moment".

As a singular release, The Curtain Falls is one of the most powerful albums of all time. Just ask syruix.

[pixiesfanyo]

You and I is pretty good. They kind of remind me of like The Khayembii Communique in that I don't get all the praise though.

[RetiredAt21]

Yay for Joshua Fit For Battle

Very good band.

[i am the robots]

wait guys we dont talk about hot cross and off minor enough

this needs to be accomplished.

im watching dis right now:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=DNL6MNG3pGA

[whiteminority]

Actually, Will says that Union Of Uranus was his main influence, or I think that's what I've read.

Uranus and OEGP are considered to be the main influences on Orchid, though in interviews the band did Will mentioned most the German "metal" (I put that in "" because I have not heard these bands as they hopelessly obscure, and going on Orchid's sound I can't quite picture metal being much of an influence) bands Systral and Carol.

[Doop]

Systral are amazing and I can see their influence in Orchids sound. I still need to hear Carol but I haven't been able to find any.

[i am the robots]

Uranus and OEGP are considered to be the main influences on Orchid, though in interviews the band did Will mentioned most the German "metal" (I put that in "" because I have not heard these bands as they hopelessly obscure, and going on Orchid's sound I can't quite picture metal being much of an influence) bands Systral and Carol.

My old band was hugely influenced by He Is Legend:
http://myspace.com/ofthedyingbreed

I don't see your point at all.

[mattspurplepen]

hey i am a fan of ctts and some other skramz bands but not exclusively or anything i like most kinds of music/ i'm definitely not good with genres.
would you say this is screamo : http://www.myspace.com/ohapollo ? i mean it probably could be what with the screaming and all.

[RetiredAt21]

I haven't listened to Kite Flying Society in forever.

np: We Dance At Night

[DFelon204409]

hey i am a fan of ctts and some other skramz bands but not exclusively or anything i like most kinds of music/ i'm definitely not good with genres.
would you say this is screamo : http://www.myspace.com/ohapollo ? i mean it probably could be what with the screaming and all.

you can run but you can't hide

[i am the robots]

My friends played a show with them, omg.

I think it could be considered skramz though, but who knows IM A JEW

[RetiredAt21]

My Jewdar is tingling!

[i am the robots]

Hch'I wonder hch'why.

[Hbp]

Does anyone like Mohinder?

[Txus]

Yeah, great band.

[i am the robots]

Does anyone like Mohinder?
omg who r they

[Iluvatar]

I bought their discog from GSL for like 8 bucks a year or two ago.

it was a good buy.

I've been digging Make Me and Suis La Lune a lot lately, especially Make Me. What a good, good, good band.

[i am the robots]

Send me sum of dat ****

[Hbp]

I bought their discog from GSL for like 8 bucks a year or two ago.

it was a good buy.

I've been digging Make Me and Suis La Lune a lot lately, especially Make Me. What a good, good, good band.

I found it for $2.99. I win.

[Iluvatar]

Im sorry i bought it from the label when it still mattered lol.

mappy, did you want an link or did you want them over aim or something.

[Txus]

Suis La Lune
:o I was listening to their s/t in the car, ****ing sweet!

[i am the robots]

Im sorry i bought it from the label when it still mattered lol.

mappy, did you want an link or did you want them over aim or something.

link would be good

[Iluvatar]

I rep'd you make me, all of my suis la lune stuff is everywhere in my music folder so ya.

and they dont seem like much car music txus =/.

[Txus]

I listen to weird **** in the car tbqh. I just place my ipod in shuffle and ****...

Yesterday Coolio came on and then some cool Funeral Doom haha

[i am the robots]

My iPod always wants me to listen to oldshcool death metal (when I put it on shuffle).

[RetiredAt21]

I can't stop listening to Ekkaia. So good!

[i am the robots]

Demasiado Tarde Para Pedir Perdón specifically.

[RetiredAt21]

So great.

[Iluvatar]

I dont know how much it really counts, but My Lai are pretty great.

i still havent listened to much ekkaia tbh.

[Txus]

Manos que estrechan planes de muerte y sometimiento is ****ing superb. And their lyrics are soooooo good.

[RetiredAt21]

I dont know how much it really counts, but My Lai are pretty great.

i still havent listened to much ekkaia tbh.

Get on it, bro.

[Iluvatar]

someone want to up a discog or something for me

slsk is being lame to me atm

[i am the robots]

Manos que estrechan planes de muerte y sometimiento is ****ing superb. And their lyrics are soooooo good.
I don't understand their lyrics, but I'll take your word for it.
So great.
Seriously, thanks for showing me those guys.

[Txus]

I don't understand their lyrics, but I'll take your word for it.
lol, u dont speak español

check your rep, john

[i am the robots]

yeah, sorry, poor's just never something i felt i'd need to know

[Iluvatar]

hey man, im half cuban dont disss on my heritage like that ******

thanks yo, im listening now

edit: holy badly tagged album batman

[i am the robots]

Ew, I just lost a ton of respect for you.

[Txus]

Sorry, I got it from a blog :(

Mappy: Don't be a racist bastard :(

[i am the robots]

You know I'm just dicking around. :')

And yeah, Make Me is cool, some of it reminds me of a less mettle Changing Of Times.

[Iluvatar]

Everything comes back to underoath eventually!

[i am the robots]

I guess. Or it just like, reminded me of that, specifically Rubber Sidewalks.

[Iluvatar]

Not surprisingly that is the least awesome song there!

[i am the robots]

Ohhhhhhh ****.

[Iluvatar]

"Hello Moon" is epic as hell dude idc.

[i am the robots]

The whole demo's pretty good, it's like dancy and depressive, it's a cool mix.

[Iluvatar]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0ynj58lsyM&feature=related

is a pretty awesome video of them live

[i am the robots]

damn, they put on a good show

[Txus]

Wow that was pretty awesome. I'll definitely check those guys out.

[whiteminority]

Systral are amazing and I can see their influence in Orchids sound. I still need to hear Carol but I haven't been able to find any.

Dude hit me up, I would love to hear Systral.

Can't find that **** anywhere.

AIM: HalighEyesBright

slsk: whiteminority

[pixiesfanyo]

just to go against the grain like usual. that wasn't awesome.

new Pyramids is pretty cool.

[RetiredAt21]

What wasn't awesome?

[Iluvatar]

Make Me.

whats the new Pyramids called.

[pixiesfanyo]

Through the Hourglass.

I think it was released in '07, but on some stupid European label so it was only available at shows. Therefore, I couldn't get it living on the gay coast.

[RetiredAt21]

Has anyone ever heard Dear Diary, I Seem To Be Dead?

[pixiesfanyo]

yeah, i remember there was a thread on them in HC/E along time ago with a link to a site that had mp3s. site probably doesn't work anymore though.

midwesty right?

[Iluvatar]

Is it available through any online sites like 29north (is that even up again yet) or do you have to order it from the label?

[RetiredAt21]

I like them. The vocals sound a little strange sometimes, though. And I love how they use a wah pedal. Very cool.

[A Dead Modernist]

I listened to La Quiete- La Fine Non e La Fine yesterday/today

Its ok overall, but some parts are really ****ing great.

[pixiesfanyo]

http://noladiy.org/deardiarylyrics.html

site still works.

at iluvatar, i don't think it has been issued on wax yet. the cd can be bought from the label though.

[RetiredAt21]

For some reason, I could never really get into La Quiete.

[pixiesfanyo]

http://www.myspace.com/protagonistmusic

[A Dead Modernist]

^ sweet, TCK are pretty awesome. I might need to check that out.

[pixiesfanyo]

Teenage Cool Kids are alright. But, Pyramids are nothing like them just so you know. CoC inspired band from Philagaypheia

[Iluvatar]

Didn't know In First Person and Storm the Bastille were putting out a split lp.

pretty cool.

[pixiesfanyo]

well, now you know.

the rest of the story.

[NemesisDivina]

I'm in a skramza mood, but I don't have any skramza. Where do I start?

[Iluvatar]

What have you heard and liked?

[NemesisDivina]

Envy and Alexisonfire (s/t only)

but i'm pretty open-minded. so just throw whatever ya got at me.

[pixiesfanyo]

I'm in a skramza mood, but I don't have any skramza. Where do I start?

Not calling it skramza.

http://rateyourmusic.com/list/pixiesfanyo/a_how_to_guide_to_emotional_hardcore

[Iluvatar]

im surprised you havent added gospel or kidcrash to that list considering how you always talk about them.

but yeah that is a good list to start from.

[NemesisDivina]

I've heard Gospel but I didn't realize that they were considered Screamo.


EDIT:

I think I'll go with Orchid, Hot Cross, and Circle Takes the Square to start me off.

[pixiesfanyo]

im surprised you havent added gospel or kidcrash to that list considering how you always talk about them.

but yeah that is a good list to start from.

Gospel and Kidcrash aren't really drastic impactors on the sound.

Gospel is kind of an anomaly for stoner rock fused with screamo.

Kidcrash is basically just an embellishment on Off Minor with a few more bells and whistles.

I don't think the list is really to show off the best records in the genre, or at least my favorites. It is more to be an easy to follow linear path of the genre. Shotmaker should be on there and I think I am going to edit it a little.

[Iluvatar]

Yeah but then again how much did Hot Cross really impact the scene that hadn't already been around in some form.

Technicality but I mean yeah. I remember you saying you didn't even like some of those bands that much, I was just commenting that you seem to think they are at least the biggest "innovators" since CTTS or w/e.

[JumpTheF**kUp]

Why isn't there any Off Minor?

[pixiesfanyo]

yeah, but look at all the impact CTTS and Hot Cross have had. lots of bands cite them as a source and while Hot Cross may have been somewhat ATDIish they certainly pushed post-hardcore and emo to a brink it hadn't been to with 'Cryonics'. I guess because of Risk Revival their popularity has gone down a little bit, but they were hugely popular just a few years ago and along with CTTS probably one of the reasons emo/screamo has become so popular.

The list is definitely in need of a overhaul though, when I get the time I'll do that. One of my wishes is to essentially copy the style of 'American Hardcore' in the setting of emo and screamo.

[pixiesfanyo]

Why isn't there any Off Minor?

because, i wouldn't necessarily describe them as extreme innovation. they essentially combined a sound that was highly popular in the mid '90s (Unwound, Fugazi, Rodan, etc.) with the aggressive side of Saetia. plus in just the eyes of 'screamo' they are just an embellishment on the sound Saetia and like minded bands were originally playing with.

[Iluvatar]

The list is definitely in need of a overhaul though, when I get the time I'll do that. One of my wishes is to essentially copy the style of 'American Hardcore' in the setting of emo and screamo.

That could end up being hilarious.

[pixiesfanyo]

Why would it be hilarious?

[Iluvatar]

American Hardcore made me laugh at points.

quick edit: I also think you'd do a fantastic job!

[pixiesfanyo]

I just like the oral history approach and think it'd work really well to expose some of the inner cliches of that scene. Where as most of the people involved in the early years of hardcore look back on that time as something positive and declare themselves part of that scene, it seems alot of emo people deny being emo or whatever and are ashamed of their past endeavors.

[Iluvatar]

It would be interesting, that is if you took the time to get ahold of a lot of the people involved way back in the day.

which might be difficult at this point.

[pixiesfanyo]

i guess, it'd probably be a five year long project or something ridiculous like that.

[RetiredAt21]

It would be interesting, that is if you took the time to get ahold of a lot of the people involved way back in the day.

which might be difficult at this point.

That would definitely be awesome, though.

[i am the robots]

It'd be cute, yeah.

[whiteminority]

Is it available through any online sites like 29north (is that even up again yet) or do you have to order it from the label?

29north is closed for good. Greg got a job working at Relapse.

[Iluvatar]

Ah thats lame, I thought it was only down for a while.

****.

[RetiredAt21]

I think the term "skram" should just die now.

[i am the robots]

no way dude it seperates the TRUE screamo from that poppy garbage

[RetiredAt21]

Ugh.

[i am the robots]

its such a metal reaction tbh

[RetiredAt21]

its such a metal reaction tbh

I was listening to "skram" when you were still listening to Korn, ELEVENTEEN.

[pixiesfanyo]

hahaha, he still listens to Korn dude. just the metalcore version.

[i am the robots]

http://last.fm/user/112388

You got me!
I was listening to "skram" when you were still listening to Korn, ELEVENTEEN.
YOU WANNA KNOW WHY? BECAUSE KORN IS SICK AND THEIR LYRICS COME FROM THA HEART

[RetiredAt21]

:lol:

[pixiesfanyo]

holy ****, how could you ever listen to As Cities Burn more than once?

[pixiesfanyo]

the vocals in your band are so ridiculously stupid.

[RetiredAt21]

I don't know how anyone can like that band. So bland and lame. They appeal to scene kids. Oh wait.

[pixiesfanyo]

no, listen to his band dude. http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=83656089

it is hilarious how many cliches of bad metalcore they've managed to throw into one band. plus the amount of distortion on the vocals is ridiculous, it reminds me of DFelon's first recordings.

[i am the robots]

Except it's not even metalcore, holy crap!

And the song with the distorted vocals was done in the summer after 11th grade, and the distortion's because I was trying to be like Anthony Gunnells.

and I didn't like As Cities Burn until I saw them live, and Trevor says the same thing, so f u niggaz.

[RetiredAt21]

HAHAHAHAHAHA

"Draped In Crimson"

[i am the robots]

That song was done two years ago, and that band's out of commission now anyway.

Listen to my new band niggaz:
http://myspace.com/paraphiliasoontochange

[pixiesfanyo]

O.T.D.B. 2008
Current mood: straight edge AND vegan

[i am the robots]

Hell yes.

We had a song called Krump, and there was a breakdown at the end where the lyrics were just, "Michael J. Fox does the robot," repeatedly.

[pixiesfanyo]

is Paraphilia trying to be the Norma Jean of Death Metal?

[i am the robots]

Yes. Very much so.

[i am the robots]

Pixies you're very good at hurting my feelings, please, more.

[Iluvatar]

Sup dead band page.

sup metalcore thread.

oh wait.

[pixiesfanyo]

Pixies you're very good at hurting my feelings, please, more.

if you're going to go with the nonchalant approach to taking insults, you actually have to be nonchalant about it bro.

[i am the robots]

You're pathetic, you do realize that? It's the internet bro.

Normally trolling is supposed to be funny, not just poor attempts at personal attacks.

[NemesisDivina]

So I downloaded As The Roots Undo today based on pixie's and john's reccomendations last night. I'm pretty glad I did, this album is amazing.

[pixiesfanyo]

see, i really like that record. but i'm rarely in the mood for it. i would say it is the best example of an emo record that is able to attract 'metal' fans though.

[i am the robots]

It's got some pretty mettle-y moments, a lot in Kill The Switch and A Non-Objective Portrait Of Karma.

[Ed Wood]

i still need to jam that havent in awheile

[pixiesfanyo]

You're pathetic, you do realize that? It's the internet bro.



wait. wait. wait. it's the internet bro, but you're the one who posts in a thread about reporting problems, because i'm making fun of your cliched attempt at making metalcore half assed with Retiredat21 who seriously likes white power black metal.

okay,

[Iluvatar]

It got me into emo (with Cryonics) and I dont know, I can listen to 80% of it at anytime.

I know its got plenty of problems, but all the good parts of it make it so good for me.

Plus (when I saw them live) they were really good and the crowd was so into it.

edit: this is all about ctts not a faggy *** internet argument sorry

[i am the robots]

wait. wait. wait. it's the internet bro, but you're the one who posts in a thread about reporting problems, because i'm making fun of your cliched attempt at making metalcore half assed with Retiredat21 who seriously likes white power black metal.

okay,

#1. I didn't write the music, I just screamed over it
#2. one of the songs on the page was written by our guitarist while he was in 10th grade
#3. looking back on that project, we laugh at how much of a Through The Eyes Of The Dead rip-off it was, but it was still a hell of a lot of fun to play the shows we did
#4. melodic death + breakdowns =/= metalcore
#5. I wish we had more recordings of that material, with the lyrics listed and everything for every time people thought we took ourselves seriously.

[pixiesfanyo]

I don't think it really has that many problems. It is probably one of the most concise 'albums', I've ever heard. I just don't listen to it very much is all. I mean, I definitely think it deserves the praise it gets.

[pixiesfanyo]

#1. I didn't write the music, I just screamed over it
#2. one of the songs on the page was written by our guitarist while he was in 10th grade
#3. looking back on that project, we laugh at how much of a Through The Eyes Of The Dead rip-off it was, but it was still a hell of a lot of fun to play the shows we did
#4. melodic death + breakdowns =/= metalcore

dude, it's the internet.

why are you defending yourself?

it's just the internet.

[Iluvatar]

I don't think it really has that many problems. It is probably one of the most concise 'albums', I've ever heard. I just don't listen to it very much is all. I mean, I definitely think it deserves the praise it gets.

Its got some serious problems with production and some of the pacing and the transitions in the songs.

I just think those don't really tarnish it at all.

[i am the robots]

dude, it's the internet.

why are you defending yourself?

it's just the internet.

I'm just pointing out why your points aren't very insulting.

[Ed Wood]

stinky mcstinkface

[pixiesfanyo]

I'm just pointing out why your points aren't very insulting.

oh, well i mean.. you were obviously in the band, so..

i can't think of anything really more insulting than that.

[i am the robots]

it was really enjoyable, whatever

and i absolutely love the later material that we had written

[NemesisDivina]

It was really hard for me to get used to the screaming on it at first, but I'm pretty good with it now. I haven't stopped listening to this since I downloaded it, I'm not even sure if I have any favorite songs off of this, they're all so damn good.

[SubtleDagger]

if you dont care then why get all bent out of shape over someone talking about it

[i am the robots]

I'm not bent out of shape over it at all dude
It was really hard for me to get used to the screaming on it at first, but I'm pretty good with it now. I haven't stopped listening to this since I downloaded it, I'm not even sure if I have any favorite songs off of this, they're all so damn good.


The screaming's really aggressive and dirty sounding.

[Iluvatar]

It was really hard for me to get used to the screaming on it at first, but I'm pretty good with it now. I haven't stopped listening to this since I downloaded it, I'm not even sure if I have any favorite songs off of this, they're all so damn good.

I hope the newest song they have been playing live isn't* what the whole album is going to be like.

The back-and-forth screaming is what made CTTS before. The new song is cool but lacks that sing-along jams.

[Ed Wood]

nah kathy kind of sucked

[i am the robots]

It seems too tame to be CTTS.

[NemesisDivina]

The screaming's really aggressive and dirty sounding.

Yeah, that. But a lot of it was the register for me. I've been listening to a lot of doom and death metal lately so I'm not really used to screaming being that high.

I love the spoken part on Interviews At The Ruins.

[SubtleDagger]

I'm not bent out of shape over it at all dude

Except you were bitching about trolling and insults on the last page, then getting all defensive, then reverting back to "I dont care" mode

[i am the robots]

The both of you are children.
Yeah, that. But a lot of it was the register for me. I've been listening to a lot of doom and death metal lately so I'm not really used to screaming being that high.

I love the spoken part on Interviews At The Ruins.

post number 666, heil!

[Iluvatar]

Yeah, that. But a lot of it was the register for me. I've been listening to a lot of doom and death metal lately so I'm not really used to screaming being that high.

I love the spoken part on Interviews At The Ruins.

Try and find the split with pg 99 they did, because "Patchwork Neurology" is a pretty sick song if you liked ATRU.

Just a suggestion though.

[i am the robots]

We're Sustained By The Corpse Of A Fallen Constellation is my favorite CTTS song :o

[NemesisDivina]

I think I'm gonna branch out more into the Screamo genre before going really in-depth with any of the bands.

[Iluvatar]

We're Sustained By The Corpse Of A Fallen Constellation is my favorite CTTS song :o

The beginning of that song is really awesome.

[i am the robots]

I really like the whole lyrical/vocal aspect of the song. And blast beats.

[SubtleDagger]

The both of you are children.

I didn't know not liking shitty death metal bands was immature

Actually I'm pretty sure it's a good sign of at least decent musical maturity

[Pariah]

sup burt

ctts is pretty good yeah

[SubtleDagger]

sup burt

ctts is pretty good yeah
oh my you are a moderator

ctts is good but they get too much attention in here, which is to be expected I guess

[Iluvatar]

not as good as saves the day

[pixiesfanyo]

not as good as the black dahlia murder

[Iluvatar]

but better than dance gavin dance

[i am the robots]

I didn't know not liking shitty death metal bands was immature
That's not the point I was making dumbass.

Actually I'm pretty sure it's a good sign of at least decent musical maturity
Yo dude, Intronaut is post-mettle. :rolleyes:


ctts is good but they get too much attention in here, which is to be expected I guess
This is exactly where your issue is: you care way too much about what other people like.

[pixiesfanyo]

Issues

yeah, i think it is their best as well.

[i am the robots]

That was 4 years ago. :/
not as good as the black dahlia murder
I like them, but like, CTTS is better imo. :)

[pixiesfanyo]

nah, dude. i definitely remember you posting korn inspired poetry in the LC in '05.

[i am the robots]

and it's 2008 now :o

I'll admit it, I was a pretty big homo back then, whatever.

[Txus]

mappy: **** YOU.

[i am the robots]

oooh, i could use a good poke right about now n_n

[SubtleDagger]

That's not the point I was making dumbass.
No you weren't really making any point, just calling us children for no real reason
Yo dude, Intronaut is post-mettle. :rolleyes:
Thanks for the random non-sequitur i guess
This is exactly where your issue is: you care way too much about what other people like.
Thanks for telling me about whatever issue you think I have but to be honest I really don't care much at all, you really don't have to care when you say something is overrated

[i am the robots]

No you weren't really making any point, just calling us children for no real reason
No, you seriously are like a pair of 10 year olds.


Thanks for the random non-sequitur i guess
Welcome, dear.

Thanks for telling me about whatever issue you think I have but to be honest I really don't care much at all, you really don't have to care when you say something is overrated
True, I do that a lot on the review site.

[Iluvatar]

Stop faggots.

[SubtleDagger]

No, you seriously are like a pair of 10 year olds.
I don't really see how, at the very least i'm pretty chill when someone says they dislike my music

[pixiesfanyo]

21 sucked and I over inflated my rating just to give ASE press.

[SubtleDagger]

21 sucked and I over inflated my rating just to give ASE press.
Thats pretty damn respectful tbh

The split will be better ;]

[i am the robots]

I don't really see how, at the very least i'm pretty chill when someone says they dislike my music
There's a difference between really obviously trying to make fun of something (and letting very obvious jokes fly over your head in the process) and saying, "I dislike your music."

And regardless, I'm still not mad, I just thought I'd try to point out where pixies was failing horribly.

And when it boils down to it, you're not being that bad right now, but pixies was still acting like a 10 year old.

[SubtleDagger]

There's a difference between really obviously trying to make fun of something (and letting very obvious jokes fly over your head in the process) and saying, "I dislike your music."

And regardless, I'm still not mad, I just thought I'd try to point out where pixies was failing horribly.

And when it boils down to it, you're not being that bad right now, but pixies was still acting like a 10 year old.
Who cares dude, write a song about it

[pixiesfanyo]

you're music sounds like a bad take on early Glass Casket or similar ilk.

i'd consider Glass Casket metalcore that wears a death metal influence on its sleeve.

therefore, i'd consider you metalcore. the other band Parasitis or whatever was obviously more in depth death metal that showed a metalcore influence.

if you think Intronaut is metalcore you're an idiot. they're obviously from the same gene as Isis, Rosetta, Callisto, so on and so forth.

you're not pointing out anything where i failed horribly. i know my genres and if i want to be a prick about it, i can.. it just is entirely stupid to do that.

yes, i am being stupid in this post.

[pixiesfanyo]

also, i will just let you call me a 10 year old when you're the one who has to cry to moderators about simple jests made on a web forum.

i don't really dislike you, you just act like you know things when obviously you have no handle on them. it is why this thread is annoying, because you made it and then act like you're an authority on a genre you just got into six months ago. that is why i'm constantly calling you a douche bag.

but, whatever.

[SubtleDagger]

I really did think like "totally awful generic version of Glass Casket" when I heard it

The riffs are just ultra boring and it feels like the whole band is trying to be something its not, like theres a big difference between being a real death metal band and incorporating pinch harmonics and other dumb technical crap to try to achieve that effect

[Iluvatar]

lets get the hate back where it belongs

on me.

[pixiesfanyo]

I really did think like "totally awful generic version of Glass Casket" when I heard it

The riffs are just ultra boring and it feels like the whole band is trying to be something its not, like theres a big difference between being a real death metal band and incorporating pinch harmonics and other dumb technical crap to try to achieve that effect

hence the uh.. Norma Jean comparison.

Glass Casket is amazing, and so are Botch. but there followers that just add a little bit and then stick to the easiest progressions ever are lame.

[pixiesfanyo]

lets get the hate back where it belongs

on me.

who said we hate you?

i have the same problem with you, that i have with i am the robots. acting like you have a large amount of knowledge on things that you don't. it is just arrogance that bothers me, and if i make any comments otherwise they are usually just a piss take. i call burt a faggot for taking girls so seriously all the time, but it isn't like i think he is actually a faggot because of it. it is just part of his person, acting like you know something when you don't isn't part of a person though, it is just some dramatized act at seeming intelligent when really you are just like everyone else and are just following the coat tails of other people.

[i am the robots]

you're music sounds like a bad take on early Glass Casket or similar ilk.

i'd consider Glass Casket metalcore that wears a death metal influence on its sleeve. therefore, i'd consider you metalcore.
deathcore, and they actually have hardcore parts, which we didn't even start incorperating into our music until the spring of 07, right before our guitarist's girlfriend hanged herself and we sort of just stopped

the other band Parasitis or whatever was obviously more in depth black metal that showed a metalcore influence.
Paraphilia's just death metal, you need to listen to more metalcore and black metal honestly

if you think Intronaut is metalcore you're an idiot. they're obviously from the same gene as Isis, Rosetta, Callisto, so on and so forth.
No, they're pretty much Dead To Fall + post-rock influence dude.

you're not pointing out anything where i failed horribly. i know my genres and if i want to be a prick about it, i can.. it just is entirely stupid to do that.
If you're being serious, you don't know anything about metal at all, honestly.

yes, i am being stupid in this post.
I really hope that's the case.

[Iluvatar]

joke

but i dont think i act like i know everything about emo or w/e. i review **** on the review site because i like it and i name drop it here because i like it, i dont really care how it fits in the context of everything.

[pixiesfanyo]

'deathcore'

[i am the robots]

http://myspace.com/sargeist

This is black metal pixies, take some notes

'deathcore'

There's a difference between deathcore and regular death metal, and there's a difference between deathcore and regular metalcore.

You might think my tastes are 'immature' because I listen to too much metalcore and death metal or whatever, but I like it, so whatever.

[NemesisDivina]

Thread should be renamed: R&M Argument Thread.

You guys are awful, this is almost worse than the black metal thread...

[SubtleDagger]

Paraphilia's just death metal, you need to listen to more metalcore and black metal honestly

This is a good example of you not knowing what you're even saying or just making totally ridiculous assumptions and judgements about other people

[Iluvatar]

Thread should be renamed: R&M Argument Thread.

You guys are awful, this is almost worse than the black metal thread...

Relevant post.

What are you planning on getting into next?

[i am the robots]

This is a good example of you not knowing what you're even saying or just making totally ridiculous assumptions and judgements about other people

No dude, seriously. Our music sounds NOTHING like black metal or hardcore, therefore it can't be black metal or metalcore.

[pixiesfanyo]

http://myspace.com/sargeist

This is black metal pixies, take some notes



There's a difference between deathcore and regular death metal, and there's a difference between deathcore and regular metalcore.

why are you bringing up black metal?

i didn't say anything about black metal. i listen to a decent amount of black metal records, maybe not the TRUE ELITE stuff. but whatever.

deathcore is the stupidest label ever and is almost as stupid as the term emo-violence.

shut the **** up already,

[i am the robots]

You said my band sounds like black metal, you obviously need to get your hearing checked.

Does the band Suffocation ring any bells?

And honestly, there's enough bands that play deathcore for it to be considered a legitimate genre these days.

[pixiesfanyo]

oh lol, i said black metal instead of death metal.

[NemesisDivina]

Relevant post.

What are you planning on getting into next?

I think I'll check out Hot Cross as my next venture into the Screamo. This genre is proving to be quite worthwhile already.

[pixiesfanyo]

Cryonics is brosef.

[Iluvatar]

I think I'll check out Hot Cross as my next venture into the Screamo. This genre is proving to be quite worthwhile already.

Fair Trades is their best but Cryonics is really good even if it gets tiresome.

[i am the robots]

oh lol, i said black metal instead of death metal.

Okay, fair enough then. Explain why our music (as in Paraphilia) is metalcore in the slightest.

[SubtleDagger]

No dude, seriously. Our music sounds NOTHING like black metal or hardcore, therefore it can't be black metal or metalcore.
Your music sounds like terrible death metal made by guys who are into metalcore to begin with

big surprise there

[Iluvatar]

edit: this is ridiculous I don't know.

[Txus]

Nemesis: check out La Quiete dude :)

[NemesisDivina]

Fair Trades is their best but Cryonics is really good even if it gets tiresome.

I'll go with Cryonics to start since it seems like a lot of people talk about it as a good intro to screamo/Hot Cross.

[pixiesfanyo]

breakdowns, there is a slight influence of metalcore on the way the riffs progress that i wouldn't pin totally as death metal. death metal tends to usually be very atonal and dissonant, where as metalcore tends to have a lot more riff based progressions.

[i am the robots]

No, tons of death metal is very riff oriented, as it stemmed from thrash, son.

As for breakdowns, Suffocation, Cryptopsy, Cannibal Corpse, Blood Red Throne, Iniquity, etc.

The breakdown in Masturbatory is nothing like a metalcore breakdown, and breakdowns in metalcore are a metal element to begin with.

It's pretty hilarious that somebody who's so obsessed with jacking off to their supposed knowledge of music could actually say a band is metalcore because they have breakdowns.
Your music sounds like terrible death metal made by guys who are into metalcore to begin with

big surprise there
I personally like what Ross and Andrew are writing, and neither of them are into metalcore. :)

[SubtleDagger]

I'll go with Cryonics to start since it seems like a lot of people talk about it as a good intro to screamo/Hot Cross.
I never liked Hot Cross but good luck with it anyway

I think I got into emo first ayway but the first screamo band I could really enjoy was like City of Caterpillar

[pixiesfanyo]

I'll go with Cryonics to start since it seems like a lot of people talk about it as a good intro to screamo/Hot Cross.

if the first three tracks don't get you into that record, then you should just turn it off and maybe approach something like City of Caterpillar or uh.. Envy.

they seem to be other good HEAVY HITTERS for people that aren't coming from a hardcore perspective and aren't used to that kind of simplicity in production and ideas.

[Iluvatar]

I'll go with Cryonics to start since it seems like a lot of people talk about it as a good intro to screamo/Hot Cross.

Yeah. The production on that album bugs me now.

edit: also Gospel can really get people into the genre. But yeah the first three tracks on Cryonics are so good.

[Pariah]

why do -core and metal fans dwell on genres so much?

[Txus]

Nemesis: check out La Quiete dude :)

****ing page turn .

[pixiesfanyo]

production on that album is GREAT. makes it RAW, bro.

[NemesisDivina]

if the first three tracks don't get you into that record, then you should just turn it off and maybe approach something like City of Caterpillar or uh.. Envy.

they seem to be other good HEAVY HITTERS for people that aren't coming from a hardcore perspective and aren't used to that kind of simplicity in production and ideas.

I already know Envy, they're great. I'll download a Hot Cross album tomorrow, I'm still trying to get over CTTS.

NP: Kill The Switch


Yeah. The production on that album bugs me now.

edit: also Gospel can really get people into the genre. But yeah the first three tracks on Cryonics are so good.

I've heard Gospel, pixies sent me The Moon Is A Dead World a while back. Awesome CD.

[SubtleDagger]

No, tons of death metal is very riff oriented, as it stemmed from thrash, son.

As for breakdowns, Suffocation, Cryptopsy, Cannibal Corpse, Blood Red Throne, Iniquity, etc.

The breakdown in Masturbatory is nothing like a metalcore breakdown, and breakdowns in metalcore are a metal element to begin with.

I personally like what Ross and Andrew are writing, and neither of them are into metalcore. :)
Well if they're not into it then to be honest it's just death metal made by guys who really don't understand what decent death metal sounds like

[i am the robots]

How much death metal do you listen to, honestly? More specifically, how much NYDM?

I may have made ignorant statements when I was first getting into screamo, but honestly, neither of you know what you're talking about when it comes to metal in the slightest.
I think I got into emo first ayway but the first screamo band I could really enjoy was like City of Caterpillar
omg I'm listening to them right now.

[Iluvatar]

production on that album is GREAT. makes it RAW, bro.

so ****ing RAW man.

I dunno some of the songs sound sort of weird. Its the same deal with Risk Revival for me although a bit different.

[SubtleDagger]

How much death metal do you listen to, honestly? More specifically, how much NYDM?

I've heard enough to know what interesting death metal sounds like and what boring death metal sounds like

You seem to have this complex where you like to doubt others' knowledge of genres whenever they criticize something you're into, you should probably let it go already

[pixiesfanyo]

No, tons of death metal is very riff oriented, as it stemmed from thrash, son.

As for breakdowns, Suffocation, Cryptopsy, Cannibal Corpse, Blood Red Throne, Iniquity, etc.

The breakdown in Masturbatory is nothing like a metalcore breakdown, and breakdowns in metalcore are a metal element to begin with.

It's pretty hilarious that somebody who's so obsessed with jacking off to their supposed knowledge of music could actually say a band is metalcore because they have breakdowns.


breakdowns are a derivative of hardcore. this is fact.

yes, death metal is riff oriented. but you aren't playing the riffs in the way that they are usually used in death metal. listen to something like Gorguts and Cryptopsy and there is nothing similar to parts in your band's sound. if you want to talk about Cannibal Corpse, you are a faggot.

[i am the robots]

Breakdowns in hardcore are usually completely different from breakdowns in metal though.

And Gorguts as your example of standard death metal is very lol.

Once more, listen to some New York Death Metal, if you want to get to what our guitarists are influenced by.

[Iluvatar]

there are other ****ing threads for that ****.

[i am the robots]

I like arguing with kids who are completely wrong though. :(

[pixiesfanyo]

listen to some good death metal if you want to not be criticized for being a shitty typical death metal band.

breakdowns in metal can't be different from breakdowns in hardcore because breakdowns are defined as one thing. if a band is playing music with breakdowns they are inherently inspired by hardcore, as it is something that has risen out of that scene. just like if someone is using guttural vocals, they are inherently inspired by death metal.

[i am the robots]

Uh, dude, I'm a hell of a lot more familiar with death metal than you ever will be.

[pixiesfanyo]

neat. sucks that your band still manages to be the most trite example of the genre ever.

[i am the robots]

Yeah, but we're not trying to be groundbreaking, we're just trying to get drunk to play some good ol' death metal.

And you're still completely missing the point that I don't write any of the music.

And my bandmates are a hell of a lot less boring and petty than you. :)

[Cocaine]

hey guys

nobody cares

[pixiesfanyo]

truth.

[i am the robots]

omg you argued against me, you clearly care.

[Iluvatar]

Lets namedrop more obscure shitty bands people.

its why the thread was made.

[i am the robots]

Depravity.

[NemesisDivina]

A lot of the vocals in this CTTS reminds me of ATDI.

[Iluvatar]

really.

like how

[A Dead Modernist]

imma fight everyone ITT

[SubtleDagger]

Lets namedrop more obscure poopty bands people.

its why the thread was made.
I know this band maybe you have heard of them but probably not they are called ORCHID

[NemesisDivina]

The shouted parts on Same Shade As Concrete sound similar


...imo

@john