Which Grunge Era Drummer Is your Favourite

[rohbit]

Having started getting into drums right about the time I started listening to a lot of Grunge music, I pose the Question in my post.

Which is your favourite and why.

Yea they're no Vinnie C etc., but they deserve respect in their own right.

I guess I'll go first.

Excluding that I love Dave Grohl for reasons related/unrelated to his drumming, I'd say my favourite would be Matt Cameron from Soundgarden and subsequently Pearl Jam, though I like his Soundgarden stuff better. His ability to disguise odd time signatures, played for the music while still being able to display his chops (Jesus Christ Pose, for example), and for being stellar in live performances. Matt Cameron gets my vote.

[spirit]

To be honest, I've not heard any grunge albums other than Nirvana ones.

That said, I'd have said Grohl is hard to beat. I love that guy on the drums.

[Panopticon]

i was going to type exactly that.

[spirit]

That's twice I've wanted to rep you tonight.

[Panopticon]

see L & R

[Futuro]

tool

[MeaninglessPhoto]

Matt Cameron

[LoneStarDrummer]

matt cameron followed closely by grohl. honestly though soundgarden, pearl jam, STP and nirvana are really the only grunge bands i like. it really wasn't too hard of choice for me.

[A Dead Modernist]

Metallica

[We_Love_Lime]

Haha what the **** is grunge?

[A Dead Modernist]

nigga whut tha **** is music?

[spirit]

Seriously, 1 Thing by Amerie has got a shithot groove.

[rohbit]

What about Alice in Chain's drummer? Sean Kinney is a wicked drummer. And Jimmy Chamberlain from the Smashing Pumpkins. I'd consider Gish and Siamese Dream to be very grungy albums, but I guess the Pumpkins are more Alt-rock.

[sLarkin20]

All I know is Dave Grohl, so I'm going to go with him.

[keaton_86]

Seriously, 1 Thing by Amerie has got a shithot groove.

I agree completly.

[Bonham#1!]

Jimmy Chamberlain for sheer drumming, Dave Grohl is all around sweet(Im talking singing song writing, guitar playing as well as drumming)

[Mirror.Circuit]

Dale Crover from the Melvins.
They aren't "grunge" grunge,but whatever.
Dude rules hard.

[drums_from_hell]

Dave Grohl and Matt Cameron :)

[Grendizerftw!]

My fav is Dave. There were a lot of more technically advanced drummers those days like Matt Cameron, Jimmy Chamberlin , but it`s grunge - no need in swing pulse, complex polyrhythmical stuff, fast 16-th note breaks over the 8 toms etc. Raw power, creativity and simplicity - it`s the sound of grungy drums. When you see how Dave`s beating the sh1t out of the drums, you think "oh...gosh, this guy really hates everything around" hah...

[CasB]

Yeah Dave Grohl...actually Nirvana is the only real grunge band I know and/or listened to...

[Ill Mitch]

I don't really listen to grunge, but I'm from Seattle so I must post in this thread. Dave Grohl is quite good.

[oliv_da_skinmasher]

I'm not a fan of the grunge scene particularly. Pearl Jam's drummer I like(if they class as grunge)

[Aaron]

This thread highlights how much of a failure the grunge movement was. Four bands, lol.

[margin0walker]

my favorite is DJ Shadow

[oliv_da_skinmasher]

This thread highlights how much of a failure the grunge movement was. Four bands, lol.

LOL.

I wasn't really a 'movement' though was it.

[ringworm]

This thread highlights how much of a failure the grunge movement was. Four bands, lol.
what??? i dont even know how to correct that statement


Sean Kinney

I thought Dave Krusen was a far better drummer than Matt Cameron, when he joined, I felt PJ went downhill

Mike Bordin

I am certain I am failing to think of more, I'm old and that era was long ago, but certainly was needed to redirect music as we hear it today :)

[Vannaroth]

Nobody listens to grunge.

[ringworm]

they did :)

you hear its influences everyday, without it, we could still be watching guys with bad hair and lots of make-up, oshi, wait…………………

[Talos]

This thread mightve worked if people knew more grunge bands then Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden and Alice In Chains.
I like to think I know a bit about genres and stuff, but grunge was just an epic phail.

We all forgot about L7, Mudhoney and Stone Temple Pilots.

[ringworm]

Post-Grunge had much more to offer, but without the initial installment of bands mentioned and bands completely forgotten about (Screaming Trees, STP, Mother Love Bone, Melvins, Mudhoney……etc

many other bands may have gone unoticed or never formed at all, that we all love yesterday & today

if anything grunge created an urge for listeners to find more artists that previously may not have been heard and an outlet for indie/alternative/less mainstream groups to play to

[raz0r]

Matt Cameron.

He was sick with soundgarden.

I would have picked Dave Grohl, but only for his drumming on early foo fighters stuff. Which isn't grunge

[-Obscurity-]

Dave Grohl (especially Nirvana era) has one thing alot of drummers lack, Power. I remember as a kid seeing him bang away on Nirvana's videos and thinking, "man, I want to do that"!

[oliv_da_skinmasher]

Yeah. Alot of people often hold back too much in sections which require alot of power

[LoneStarDrummer]

This thread highlights how much of a failure the grunge movement was. Four bands, lol.

that's true to a certain extent. however, these four main bands were pivotal to the progression of rock music.

nirvana came at a time when glam bands and pop/r & b artists were taking over. bands like poison, and artists like michael jackson. grunge was important in removing the image associated with music and brought rock music back to its roots - making music that's raw and true to it's past.

[oliv_da_skinmasher]

True. But IMO nirvana suck lol.

PJ did it well mind

[rohbit]

Matt Cameron.

He was sick with soundgarden.

I would have picked Dave Grohl, but only for his drumming on early foo fighters stuff. Which isn't grunge

The self-titled album is pretty grungy. Songs like X-static, Weenie Beenie, Wattershed.

I think that the reason Pearl Jam is not as good as back in the day is not because of Matt Cameron joining the band, but because there was only so many ways Eddie Vedder could mumble his lyrics ;).

[We_Love_Lime]

my favorite is DJ Shadow

I love that band.

[A Dead Modernist]

DJ Shadow gives Metallica a run for their money, as the most grunge band ever.

[-Obscurity-]

I think that the reason Pearl Jam is not as good as back in the day is not because of Matt Cameron joining the band, but because there was only so many ways Eddie Vedder could mumble his lyrics ;).

Yeah, Pearl Jam was already on the decline way before Matt Cameron joined.

[Aaron]

;15388869']that's true to a certain extent. however, these four main bands were pivotal to the progression of rock music.

nirvana came at a time when glam bands and pop/r & b artists were taking over. bands like poison, and artists like michael jackson. grunge was important in removing the image associated with music and brought rock music back to its roots - making music that's raw and true to it's past.
...and sucked the melody out of popular band-based music, in my opinion. I see grunge as a setback.

[LoneStarDrummer]

what popular band-based music?

it started in the mid 80s. gay *** hair bands were taking over. i'm not a big fan of grunge music, but i'll take it any day over hair metal.

bands like this one were the decline of not only music but masculinity as well. they were more woman than man.
http://i.walmart.com/i/p/00/09/46/34/57/0009463457172_500X500.jpg

be glad grunge music helped eliminate this crap.

[Time]

wtf Poison rocks so hard

On a serious note, Jimmy Chamberlain is really solid and so is Sean Kinney

[We_Love_Lime]

;15388869']that's true to a certain extent. however, these four main bands were pivotal to the progression of rock music.

nirvana came at a time when glam bands and pop/r & b artists were taking over. bands like poison, and artists like michael jackson. grunge was important in removing the image associated with music and brought rock music back to its roots - making music that's raw and true to it's past.

Are you saying Grunge was created to remove "music" like Michael Jacksons, or was merely supposed to add more diversity.

The latter seems more reasonable.

[Aaron]

[your name here] you're forgetting that people have individual opinions.

As a fan of metal I see grunge as a major setback to the progression of heavy styles. It removed the groove and technicality as well as created a divide between metal and electronica that took the industrial pioneers like Ministry and KMFDM years to close. Obviously I'm stating my opinion now and I'll agree to disagree with you but keep in mind, without Poison you're likely to never of heard Strapping Young Lad or Dream Theatre today, at least not at their current level of popularity.

[LoneStarDrummer]

Are you saying Grunge was created to remove "music" like Michael Jacksons, or was merely supposed to add more diversity.

The latter seems more reasonable.

i never stated that grunge was intended to remove music like micheal jackson. i stated that it removed the image associated with rock music, e.g., hair metal bands' hair.

i also stated that music such as michael jackson's, was taking over the music industry as a whole. rock music was in a steady decline and was brought back by bands such as nirvana. it's really the only reason why nirvana is still so popular today and considered an important band in music history.

by the way, i happen to think michael jackson is an amazing artist. i used his name merely as an example. the real issue was r & b/pop music at the time, not so much MJ as a sole contributer.

[Det_Nosnip]

Tool was grunge era but not really grunge, so I'd go with Sean Kinney from Alice in Chains. Fantastic rock drummer, and really showed his versatility (and chops!) with the Jar of Flies album.

[Det_Nosnip]

;15389611']what popular band-based music?

it started in the mid 80s. gay *** hair bands were taking over. i'm not a big fan of grunge music, but i'll take it any day over hair metal.

bands like this one were the decline of not only music but masculinity as well. they were more woman than man.
http://i.walmart.com/i/p/00/09/46/34/57/0009463457172_500X500.jpg

be glad grunge music helped eliminate this crap.

You do know that they did **** like that intentionally to piss people off, right?

[LoneStarDrummer]

[your name here] you're forgetting that people have individual opinions.

As a fan of metal I see grunge as a major setback to the progression of heavy styles. It removed the groove and technicality as well as created a divide between metal and electronica that took the industrial pioneers like Ministry and KMFDM years to close. Obviously I'm stating my opinion now and I'll agree to disagree with you but keep in mind, without Poison you're likely to never of heard Strapping Young Lad or Dream Theatre today, at least not at their current level of popularity.

i don't exactly see where you are coming from with this argument. heavy styles of music were a separate entity than grunge. heavy styles were still around during the late 80s as r&b/pop music was gaining much exposure. rock music was in a decline since at that time, the only real types of rock music were hair metal bands which were IMO becoming more gay by the minute. true rock fans were having to turn to bands like metallica, who also hated the image that hair bands where using to sell records. not everyone was a fan of metal, so they turned to bands like nirvana. metallica was to metal that nirvana was to rock, only instead of rock it was called grunge.

it was called grunge because of its raw sound and the un-kept appearance of the artists, amongst other reasons. it was also the combination of hardcore punk and metal elements fused together.

not sure what the hell you're talking about when you mention electronica and metal. i was discussing grunge versus r&b/pop and hair metal, hair metal being separate from metal.

metal would be a band like metallica, hair metal would be a band like cinderella. big difference.

idk what poison has to do with DT, but i also don't really care. i never said anything about how bands today wouldn't exist without hair metal. i never mentioned how grunge was supposed to remove hair metal either. i only mentioned how it removed images.

[LoneStarDrummer]

You do know that they did **** like that intentionally to piss people off, right?

not true. pissing people off was not the motivating factor behind the origins of glam metal or glam metal bands like poison.

that's what a lot of people say now once they realize how ridiculous it all was.

[We_Love_Lime]

;15390232']i never stated that grunge was intended to remove music like micheal jackson. i stated that it removed the image associated with rock music, e.g., hair metal bands' hair.

i also stated that music such as michael jackson's, was taking over the music industry as a whole. rock music was in a steady decline and was brought back by bands such as nirvana. it's really the only reason why nirvana is still so popular today and considered an important band in music history.

by the way, i happen to think michael jackson is an amazing artist. i used his name merely as an example. the real issue was r & b/pop music at the time, not so much MJ as a sole contributer.

Okay just clarrifying, I didn't really understand what you meant.
Cool :thumb:

[oliv_da_skinmasher]

;15389611']http://i.walmart.com/i/p/00/09/46/34/57/0009463457172_500X500.jpg

I was in a band that thought that was good music, and decided that they wanted to play that style of music(that song included lol). It was hell.






I quit

[Sabian]

Yeah, Pearl Jam was already on the decline way before Matt Cameron joined.

Yeah, they turned to crap around the time Jack Irons joined IMO

[-Obscurity-]

...and sucked the melody out of popular band-based music, in my opinion. I see grunge as a setback.

Um...grunge bands still had plenty of melody. It just wasn't sung at a pitch that only dogs could hear.

[rohbit]

Indeed. Alot of grunge bands relied on their vocalists for melody. Yeah the musicianship was simple, but the overall songs are anything but lacking in melody. Kobain's voice was grungy but VERY melodic. Songs like Heart Shaped Box, Lounge Act, Lithium, Breed, Smells Like teen Spirit. The basic riffs aren't a prog-rocker's wet dream, but the vocals are excellent imo. In fact, my gf, who is a great singer and who listens to everything from norah jones to black sabbath, loves Kobain's voice. You don't get props from people who prefer vocal-based music for having a ***-tacular voice.

[Det_Nosnip]

;15390287']not true. pissing people off was not the motivating factor behind the origins of glam metal or glam metal bands like poison.

that's what a lot of people say now once they realize how ridiculous it all was.

Actually, it was. A big part of the effiminency in glam rock and, subsequently, glam/hair metal was a reaction against overly masculine societal norms and homophobia. If one examines the costume approach and lyrical content of a band like Twisted Sister, one can instantly see that their whole appeal was to be music that kids could buy to piss off their tight-assed parents. The fact that the movement subsequently became mainstream and popular is irrelevant, particularly considering the concentration of its popularity among younger generations vis a vis older generations.

I don't particularly enjoy glam metal music, but I can at least appreciate what it formed as a reaction against.

[SgtPlicher]

Dale Crover

[LoneStarDrummer]

Actually, it was. A big part of the effiminency in glam rock and, subsequently, glam/hair metal was a reaction against overly masculine societal norms and homophobia. If one examines the costume approach and lyrical content of a band like Twisted Sister, one can instantly see that their whole appeal was to be music that kids could buy to piss off their tight-assed parents. The fact that the movement subsequently became mainstream and popular is irrelevant, particularly considering the concentration of its popularity among younger generations vis a vis older generations.

I don't particularly enjoy glam metal music, but I can at least appreciate what it formed as a reaction against.

alright, i see what you mean. that was a well made argument.

glam was indeed a reaction against masculine norms and homophobia. this did eventually lead to pissing people off. i now see what you were referring to.

[Det_Nosnip]

Hooray! :chug:

[SgtPlicher]

Det, can you unban my SgtBaker account please?

[sLarkin20]

As far as the Glam discussion goes, even Dee Snider talks about it in that Metal Documentary that back in his hay-day when he was dressing up like a girl with all the make-up and stuff in Twisted Sister, he was doing it for attention and to piss people off.

It obviously worked.

Of course that wasn't the reason why EVERY hair/glam/whatever band acted like that, but I bet you plenty of them did it just for the attention and exposure. Same as today like one record label owner in the same documentary said, "extremes always sell."

[TTTSNB]

Matt Cameron definitely, he had a great take on odd times without losing the feel of the music. Also Jimmy Chamberlain for just being...awesome.

[oliv_da_skinmasher]

Yeah man. Off the top of their head anyone know the time sig of Alive(pearl jam obviously)?

My singers complainin about it.

[rohbit]

Yeah man. Off the top of their head anyone know the time sig of Alive(pearl jam obviously)?

My singers complainin about it.

It's just 4/4 dude.

[oliv_da_skinmasher]

lol. He keeps thinkin its in like 7/8 or some bull ****. Don't know why.

[rohbit]

lol. He keeps thinkin its in like 7/8 or some bull ****. Don't know why.

Lol, what a dumbass.

Just show him. Play the song and count along to it. If that were the case, you wouldn't have the snare on the 2 and 4 each time.

Also, PJ's guitarist is a big Steve Ray Vaughn fan (note: SVR's version of Little Wing and Yellow Ledbetter's intro), so there's a lot of syncopation going on there. I'm assuming your guitarist is a beginner?

[oliv_da_skinmasher]

Singer n yeah he is.

Guitarist has it down to a T solo and all. Just me and the guitarist wanna play it and the singers bein a wimp about it lol

[Phototropic]

Matt Cameron
Grohl
Sean Kinney (Alice in chains) - particularly tight on their MTV unplugged DVD

[rohbit]

Singer n yeah he is.

Guitarist has it down to a T solo and all. Just me and the guitarist wanna play it and the singers bein a wimp about it lol

Oh, whoops. I thought you said your guitarist was complainin :P.

But yeah, the singer is a dumbass. Can he even sing?

[oliv_da_skinmasher]

He's not bad tbh, not the best i've played with like

[CarrionBirds]

Dale Crover from the Melvins.
They aren't "grunge" grunge,but whatever.
Dude rules hard.

dude the melvins are more "grunge" than any of the other bands mentioned

i saw them like 2 weeks ago, dale crover was a mad man, and the other drummer was insane also

[Sabian]

Yeah, Dale Crover's pretty good.

Barrett Martin from the Screaming Trees is pretty good too.

Same with Scott Mercado from Candlebox.

[Superman]

I cant say as Ive heard many other than Matt Cameron and Dave Grohl. I'd have to go for Matt Cameron, some of his stuff on Superunkown is pretty cool

[Neoteric]

Dan Peters from Mudhoney

[Brenda Is My Mom]

The drummer in Nirvana is great! He hits hard and it is wonderful next to Kurt Cobain's deep songs!

[SgtPlicher]

dude the melvins are more "grunge" than any of the other bands mentioned

i saw them like 2 weeks ago, dale crover was a mad man, and the other drummer was insane also

Lucky, they were too far out for me to seem them on a school night. I really wanted to though.

[jttdrummer14]

i have to say dave grohl