Philosophy of film

[Aficionado]

Guys,

for Philosophy me and my friend chose to do a seminar on philosophy of film. Can you guys recommend me some movies dealing with philosophy in film and different philosophies in films.

[Kage]

What do you mean, exactly? You mean a general philosophy regarding film/making or thematic philosophies of specific movies, or what?

[Aficionado]

Both, the first one being our primary project. The second would be cool to use for examples.

[thedeadwalk!]

For the first, try finding some intro. to film-making instructional video. It should give you a pretty good idea on conventional standards for camera movement/placement, editing, lighting, sound, etc. From this, specific directors may have their own videos to their process.

We're watching such a DVD in my intro. to film class, but, I can't for the life of me remember what it's called.

For the second, just get a movie you like and discuss how it reflects these standards (or deviates from them). Explain how it uses them to better get across whatever it's trying to do.

[Meatplow]

Read up on Aesthetics, the theory of beauty or philosophy of art.

Here is a great introduction - http://www.galilean-library.org/int7.html

[JohnXDoe]

get one of those "Film Making For Dummies" books and take it from there

[Kage]

The main philosophy behind film as a lot of filmmakers will tell you is "it's all about the story." Filmmaking is about finding a way to most effectively (and/or affectively) tell a story visually.

[CarnageFairy]

Make a home video of you and your friends dressed in togas and saying "why?" and fool people into thinking its really deep.

I swear it'll work.

[JohnXDoe]

The main philosophy behind film as a lot of filmmakers will tell you is "it's all about the story." Filmmaking is about finding a way to most effectively (and/or affectively) tell a story visually.
exactly. it is literally a "moving picture." this is why i think so called "great" dialogue is overrated in film, if not stage. its nice when characters are well written and have interesting things to say, but many of the GREATEST moments on film have no dialogue whatsoever. and those quiet moments say more then any words ever could. it is literally a picture.

that is the true heart of film imo

[planewreck]

true heart of film is getting loads of money off of stale fart jokes and boobies



and sometimes character development but to really grab an audience, stick a bunch of kinda big name actors into a quirky volkswagon and throw a bunch of life changing events at them that are deep and meaningful before ending with some hilarious, over-the-top, satirical finale that puts a smile on everyone's faces.

or zach braff and some chick from star wars selling you mediocre indie pop

[jazzfromhell]

"I am only interested in films that express the joy of making cinema or the agony of making cinema." - Francois Truffaut

Seriously, best way to find lots of different philosophies on film is go to imdb and look up quotes by famous directors.

[JohnXDoe]

boobies
this right here. 'tis a beautiful thing i think i see an oscar on the horizon :(

[Violent_Bill]

true heart of film is getting loads of money off of stale fart jokes and boobies


Wrong. No one in their right mind pays to see stale boobies.

[planewreck]

meg ryan :confused:

[thedeadwalk!]

I believe the movie that actually showed her boobs was a failure.

[JohnXDoe]

you know what's a real good under seen movie with Meg Ryan? I believe its called Flesh And Bone. Her, Dennis Quaid, James Caan, a young(er) Gwyneth Paltrow. Murderous story. Bad things go down. Its dark stuff to be sure. Recommended.....

[thedeadwalk!]

I'll be damned if this thread gets hijacked because of Meg Ryan!

[Aficionado]

Thanks guys for the ideas, it will really help with the seminar.

[Tillius]

true heart of film is getting loads of money off of stale fart jokes and boobies



and sometimes character development but to really grab an audience, stick a bunch of kinda big name actors into a quirky volkswagon and throw a bunch of life changing events at them that are deep and meaningful before ending with some hilarious, over-the-top, satirical finale that puts a smile on everyone's faces.

or zach braff and some chick from star wars selling you mediocre indie pop

Feeling a bit sour over Little Miss Sunshine, are we?

[planewreck]

how u gonna act

[Tillius]

Scurred.
:upset:

[Bartender]

Watch as many Arnold Schwarenegger films as possible.

[irishslappop]

The Waking Life deals with alot of philosophy, and its really a great film. Another movie with a lot of intense philosophical discussion is I Heart Huckabees. Both are great films.

[Aficionado]

Thanks a bunch, i'll put those on my list.

[A Spoonful Supreme]

fight Club

[Aficionado]

Naw, but I love how this is going to give me a chance to watch movies.

[A Spoonful Supreme]

Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless mind

[jazzfromhell]

fight Club

To quote Darth Vader...


NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

[A Spoonful Supreme]

Wait wtf?

[simplephotographinthesun]

just watch a hitchcock classic, the mechanics are all there, beautifully displayed.

[Yuzz]

Akira Kurosawa's Dreams

This movie redefines film and how its subtext and metaphor are displayed. Perfect place to start.