Old Report Problem Threads/Users / Ask the Mods

[mx]

We're going to have to get rid of two skins in the end. It's really hard to maintain multiple skins.

[bradc1988]

Orange and dark are the most obvious candidates.

[TimJim]

We're going to have to get rid of two skins in the end. It's really hard to maintain multiple skins.than why dont you do light and blue?


i dont know of anyone that uses light, and blue is terrible

[Jim]

for those of us that aren't colour-blind, this is a very worrying trend

[TimJim]

orange is best since you dont feel like youre in a cave or something when you use it

[bradc1988]

Orange is the worst skin and people only used it because of reps.

That's probably why you're so infatuated with it.

[g°®†]

The orange skin is simply more uplifting. You'll notice that those who enjoy the dark forum skin are usually the more avid mx posters who are always on their computer sitting on mx hitting F5 F5 F5 F5 F5

[TimJim]

im sure that that doesnt help, but orange is also much more user-friendly

[Jim]

i wouldn't mind light if there was some ****ing colour

same for the review site, which is bland bland bland

[JohnXDoe]

hey guys i'm here to report a problem with the forums they're all upside down and topsy turvy :(

[Pariah]

The focus of the site is changing from the intruments (as it was for tabs) to music (as it is for Sputnik).

[TimJim]

The focus of the site is changing from the intruments (as it was for tabs) to music (as it is for Sputnik).does this mean the D&P etc are going to go bye bye or no

[Pariah]

does this mean the D&P etc are going to go bye bye or no

I'm pretty sure he's keeping them, but the instrument forums have been moved down the list.

[JohnXDoe]

just want to mention some of the forums old Community threads are simply named "Community Thread"

this is kind of confusing when looking at your subscriptions in your CP, given some of the new and merged forums, etc

so maybe the local mods or supers or w/e can rename the given CT's in w/e forum they are in more specifically?

[Chaindrive]

Orange is the worst skin and people only used it because of reps.

That's probably why you're so infatuated with it.

I've been using orange since forever, rep or not.

[g°®†]

to mx,


Keep Orange and keep Dark

axe the others.



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[PaulSimonon]

blue? i thought it was greenish.

but yes put it BACK AAGHGHGGH im old-skool like that i need the blue-green
Agreed. I'm seriously distressed about this. I mean, I get changing the order of the forums around. This is no longer MX after all, and if it helps bring in more traffic or whatever, awesome. It would be nice to see a few new people around, and it's never a bad thing for this site to be doing well.

I am, however, really and truly upset about not having the same color. I know it's ridiculous and stupid and in the whole scheme of things insignificant, but it just doesn't feel like "home" anymore. It's distressing. It's like when the cigarette companies drastically "reformulate" your brand and it no longer tastes the same. It's not THAT big of a deal, but... c'mon. It just kinda sucks.

[mx]

Agreed. I'm seriously distressed about this. I mean, I get changing the order of the forums around. This is no longer MX after all, and if it helps bring in more traffic or whatever, awesome. It would be nice to see a few new people around, and it's never a bad thing for this site to be doing well.

I am, however, really and truly upset about not having the same color. I know it's ridiculous and stupid and in the whole scheme of things insignificant, but it just doesn't feel like "home" anymore. It's distressing. It's like when the cigarette companies drastically "reformulate" your brand and it no longer tastes the same. It's not THAT big of a deal, but... c'mon. It just kinda sucks.

Yeah, I understand your pain here. But it's really hard for me to maintain the look of many different skins, especially if things are going to be more integrated with the review site. If enough people are legitimately upset, I may change it back. In the meantime, try to adjust.

[horseypie]

lol dont change back jeez...its just the colour it really doesnt matter. light and dark should be good enough really

[bradc1988]

But you should realize that the people who use the old skins don't care about the review site and therefore no updates are necessary.

The new users won't know any better than the default skin so you can update that 'til your hearts content.

lol dont change back jeez...its just the colour it really doesnt matter. light and dark should be good enough really

Colour does matter.

[mx]

But you should realize that the people who use the old skins don't care about the review site and therefore no updates are necessary.

The new users won't know any better than the default skin so you can update that 'til your hearts content.


New users can select skins just like old users can.

[TimJim]

are you still going to make a larger max avatar size or was that scrapped months ago

[Skyler]

mx, can you fix it so that old users can upload large avatars, not just the new ones?

[Jom]

But you should realize that the people who use the old skins don't care about the review site and therefore no updates are necessary.

Sorry, I guess we forgot that you're bigger than an entire site.
How silly of us to overlook such egocentrism!

[bradc1988]

No I think you missed my point entirely.

[JohnXDoe]

just want to mention the Video Games / Books / Movies forum is just as much a tech forum as anything else. The Ultimate Computer Help thread and computer hardware thread and Programmers Summit thread are pretty strong. it would be more then appropriate to see "tech" or "copmuters" added to the title again

not a big deal, but it is where posters and threads are directed when discussion of such things come up. from ipods to headphones to...um....computers. which we all obviously use

anyway its been in the title b4 and seems odd it was taken out given the enthusiasm of many of us geeks. i don't think "Video Games" alone expresses that function of the forum strong enough. personally i like the sound of "tech." short and sweet

however, just something i noticed since all these changes are being made

[808]

Hardcore/Emo should stay its own sub-forum and not be merged with Punk.

[JohnXDoe]

why not half the asshats who post in punk don't know wtf it is anyway! this will give them something to consider besides The Clash being "classic rock" :/

[808]

I am an emo separatist.

[Alf™]

Who cares about skin colours, you will get used to a new one in a day or two. Black and Orange sounds good.

[Tripp_chaos]

just want to mention the Video Games / Books / Movies forum is just as much a tech forum as anything else. The Ultimate Computer Help thread and computer hardware thread and Programmers Summit thread are pretty strong. it would be more then appropriate to see "tech" or "copmuters" added to the title again

not a big deal, but it is where posters and threads are directed when discussion of such things come up. from ipods to headphones to...um....computers. which we all obviously use

anyway its been in the title b4 and seems odd it was taken out given the enthusiasm of many of us geeks. i don't think "Video Games" alone expresses that function of the forum strong enough. personally i like the sound of "tech." short and sweet

however, just something i noticed since all these changes are being made

I agree with this because this is the first time I've actually heard of it being tech related I frequent this site and haven't given it a glance by chance it was just going to be people dissing/praising new game releases or just a bunch of threads about how ps3 sucks and xbox 360 is the shix or vice-versa...

btw thanks whoever got rid of my avy...

[sweboy]

just want to mention the Video Games / Books / Movies forum is just as much a tech forum as anything else. The Ultimate Computer Help thread and computer hardware thread and Programmers Summit thread are pretty strong. it would be more then appropriate to see "tech" or "copmuters" added to the title again

not a big deal, but it is where posters and threads are directed when discussion of such things come up. from ipods to headphones to...um....computers. which we all obviously use

anyway its been in the title b4 and seems odd it was taken out given the enthusiasm of many of us geeks. i don't think "Video Games" alone expresses that function of the forum strong enough. personally i like the sound of "tech." short and sweet

however, just something i noticed since all these changes are being made

Just rename it "Lair of the Nerds" tbh.

[bradc1988]

That would be awesome.

[horseypie]

But you should realize that the people who use the old skins don't care about the review site and therefore no updates are necessary.

The new users won't know any better than the default skin so you can update that 'til your hearts content.



Colour does matter.


there are heaps of old users that use the reviews site

and sure colour does matter for the frontpage of a forum, like the sputnik front page..but for the forums i doubt very much a new user is going to hit the forums button, see the colour of the forum and be turned away completely

[bradc1988]

Yes well if they want the review site capabilities then they would have to change skins. The skins that are being removed should be kept on, as is, with no further updates.

I don't get what your referring to in your second paragraph.

[horseypie]

when you were saying colour does matter whenn i was saying theres no need to change the skins back

it sok i think we were talking about different things

[FingersOfStone]

then where am i aloud to ask such questions you wuld prob delete and ban if i went into a community thread and friggin asked just cuz you cant stand my posts, thats your hangup. every chance you get you ban my accounts for ridiculous reasons. yet you allow other members who have "been here longer" post like idiots post pron and do whatever they want just bc they won some popularity contest or somethin. idk its bull crap, stop singling me out with your damn ban ban thank you ma'am techniques.

no you're hardly being singled out

it's not like nobody knows dlp is a terrible mod, it gets easier when you quit complaining tho

[Shell]

just want to mention the Video Games / Books / Movies forum is just as much a tech forum as anything else. The Ultimate Computer Help thread and computer hardware thread and Programmers Summit thread are pretty strong. it would be more then appropriate to see "tech" or "copmuters" added to the title again

not a big deal, but it is where posters and threads are directed when discussion of such things come up. from ipods to headphones to...um....computers. which we all obviously use

anyway its been in the title b4 and seems odd it was taken out given the enthusiasm of many of us geeks. i don't think "Video Games" alone expresses that function of the forum strong enough. personally i like the sound of "tech." short and sweet

however, just something i noticed since all these changes are being made

what about "media forum"

[Iskandar]

I was just about to suggest media forum.

[Gnarmageddon]

Hardcore/Emo should stay its own sub-forum and not be merged with Punk.

This.

I'd really like to know the reason behind merging it.

[Iskandar]

Because hardcore is a subgenre of punk?

[Gnarmageddon]

So it couldn't remain in its own subforum?

[Iskandar]

Probably but we're trying to keep the number of forums down so it was a logical step to take. Your discussion of hardcore and emo experience won't be that badly affected by the plebian punk scum, will it?

[Gnarmageddon]

Just seems a little irrational to me. Whatever.

[Iskandar]

It seems perfectly rational to me, idk. We don't have a death metal subforum in Rock & Metal, do we?

[beso negro]

I was just about to suggest media forum.

no that would make too much sense

what about Video Games / Books / Movies / TV / Computer Tech / Computer Programming / Photography / Crazy Funny Picture Awesome Forum

[Iskandar]

You forgot "You Laugh You Lose." That thread is a cornerstone of the MX community.

[Huxton]

you forgot "you laugh you lose."

crazy funny picture

   

[YDload]

You forgot "You Laugh You Lose." That thread is a cornerstone of the MX community.

that thread sucked i didnt laugh once

[Iskandar]

I know. I was being facetious.

[Reaganista]

the irony of a you laugh you lose thread is if youre uptight enough to not laugh at anything in it then ur a loser and thus u also lose

[Iskandar]

I don't find random YouTube links very funny.

There were a few lolworthy things in there though.

[Reaganista]

Any racist jokes = automatic 1 day ban. White supremacy isn't really that funny.
how about homophobia too

[Aaron]

So it couldn't remain in its own subforum?
If I don't get a Dark-Ambient/IDM Forum, you don't get an emo one.

[g°®†]

ah ha you guys can't make fun of me any more :wave:

[Iskandar]

Yeah we can because you're a terrible poster. Probably should've stayed banned but it's only a matter of time before you are again I suppose.

[14CAPITALLETTERS]

uh i notice some forums are missing whats going on

[Pariah]

Read the announcement.

[YDload]

the irony of a you laugh you lose thread is if youre uptight enough to not laugh at anything in it then ur a loser and thus u also lose

i have a refined sense of humor, or i've just seen the truly funny ones before *flips through new yorker, swirls snifter full of brandy*

[Aaron]

The only thing that I laugh at is american stocks failing.

[FingersOfStone]

bill stickers is innocent

[YDload]

bill stickers is innocent

good example of something that i woulda laughed at in that thread if i hadnt seen it somewhere else first. but keep up the good werk guys :wave:

[Iskandar]

The only thing that I laugh at is american stocks failing.The party's over.

http://i00.rnhh.de/eu/fd/inc/realgen/ssi/FreedomShowbizImages/51/85/bigimage_18503.jpg

[Aaron]

O rly?

http://media.economist.com/images/na/2008w51/Money.jpg

[Iskandar]

Oh, I see. The white guy's opinion matters more than the black guy's. Never mind that he is a successful film actor!

[Aaron]

That's Bernie Madoff.

[Iskandar]

In a downtown New York prison, Bernie Madoff is contemplating the rest of his life behind bars.

Looks like the party's over for him at least.

[Aaron]

On a srs note. I don't like how there's no jam-session/audio arena anymore. There's a fair few musicians who discuss tech stuff on there that isn't related to instruments, and who share their work. I'd be happy with one single stickied thread in other-music however *wink, wink*.

[mx]

They were removed because they are very low traffic -- we're trying to consolidate lower traffic boards. We could potentially add a thread in community for user uploads

[adb]

good example of something that i woulda laughed at in that thread if i hadnt seen it somewhere else first. but keep up the good werk guys :wave:


some guy I know called the ylyl thread "second hand 4 chan material"

[Aaron]

They were removed because they are very low traffic -- we're trying to consolidate lower traffic boards. We could potentially add a thread in community for user uploads
Thanks J-Dog. I got yo' back when we ride, when we ride.

[Huxton]

some guy I know called the ylyl thread "second hand 4 chan material"
yd doesnt read 4chan hes got delusions of grandeur and too much cash

[JoshIsNumber3]

if the guitar forum was deleted, it would be epic

only like 10 people post there now anyways and only 4 of those are cute.

[JohnXDoe]

cute guitar players? no wai!

[Tripp_chaos]

if the guitar forum was deleted, it would be epic

only like 10 people post there now anyways and only 4 of those are cute.

If they were going to do that to the guitar forum then they might as well get rid of the bass, drums, well everything for that matter...

[YDload]

some guy I know called the ylyl thread "second hand 4 chan material"

sounds like something i woulda said! but i understand cause there's only so many places that can enable a funny image to spread like wildfire. im talkin too much about this crap, time to stop caring

[Ceminon]

The digging feature isn't working. I've changed it two weeks ago, but it doesn't change on the forum.

[JohnXDoe]

hello

i thought one of our fine moderators (planewreck or semi perhaps since they are most familiar with the forum) could change the name of this thread to something else in the Video Games / Movies / Tech forum:

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=563592

its a great thread all about computer hardware and system building. nearly 1000 posts and even Amit tried to change the name but it never showed up in the thread title, just in his initial post.

its different then the Ultimate Computer Help Thread....as that is more software related. and OS...things going "wrong" with computers on that side of things. however this thread, other then being full of useful info for builders, hobbiest, and enthusiast, can also help people on the hardware side of things when stuff breaks or needs upgrade and replacement.

so i'm thinking maybe "The Big Computer Hardware Thread" or something of that nature. I'm going to be bumping it later with pics and info on the new Phenom II processors AMD have out at the moment, and its certainly to be exciting for all us AMD fans out there. they are competetive once more

it is vv exciting :)

anyway so maybe someone can get around to that name change? couldn't hurt....

[Knifeboy]

They were removed because they are very low traffic -- we're trying to consolidate lower traffic boards. We could potentially add a thread in community for user uploads

The Jam session might have been low traffic posting wise, but that's because it was mostly used as a place to go look information up. There's a ton of useful information in there. And was probably one of the more successful forums when it came to content and usefulness


edit: ugh, that was written really badly, but it's monday morning and my brain is not awake yet

[Iskandar]

hello

i thought one of our fine moderators (planewreck or semi perhaps since they are most familiar with the forum) could change the name of this thread to something else in the Video Games / Movies / Tech forum:

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=563592

its a great thread all about computer hardware and system building. nearly 1000 posts and even Amit tried to change the name but it never showed up in the thread title, just in his initial post.

its different then the Ultimate Computer Help Thread....as that is more software related. and OS...things going "wrong" with computers on that side of things. however this thread, other then being full of useful info for builders, hobbiest, and enthusiast, can also help people on the hardware side of things when stuff breaks or needs upgrade and replacement.

so i'm thinking maybe "The Big Computer Hardware Thread" or something of that nature. I'm going to be bumping it later with pics and info on the new Phenom II processors AMD have out at the moment, and its certainly to be exciting for all us AMD fans out there. they are competetive once more

it is vv exciting :)

anyway so maybe someone can get around to that name change? couldn't hurt....I'll do it.

[Black Ink]

Bring back grey skin.

That is all.

[Ceminon]

Hey, the digging feature seems to be working again. :)

[dankhead]

oh no when did they ditch the blue forum skin? ive used that skin since the day i joined back in may 04 all the other skins hurt my eyes :'(

[Knifeboy]

i hear ya

I don't like change. Been using the blue one since 02 :(

[Initiation]

I was just wondering why I was banned. I'm not complaining or anything, I'm just curious.

edit: Wait nevermind, I think it's because I voted for Nickelback in the album of the year contest in R&M.

[Iskandar]

Bring back grey skin.

That is all.Huh? MX got rid of the blue skin.

[Wish]

The grey skin was and old one, removed a few years ago.

[Iskandar]

I honestly don't remember. I've always used the blue skin.

RIP blue skin.

[Tripp_chaos]

The Jam session might have been low traffic posting wise, but that's because it was mostly used as a place to go look information up. There's a ton of useful information in there. And was probably one of the more successful forums when it came to content and usefulness


edit: ugh, that was written really badly, but it's monday morning and my brain is not awake yet

Yeah I was a frequent on there but it did get some weird questions every once wait it's Monday? in a while EX. My guitarist wanting to simultaneously mic 24 mics around him while he does an acoustic number... I think that should totally be brought back especially for the fact that it really doesn't it's really Monday? work as an archive thing I mean sometimes posts are clear and concise and other times it's just confusing so it's better to be able to ask about it then have someone else explain it a little better there were some new questions too I guess that never got answered... And if nobody will bring it back then can someone answer my compressor question in the bass forum?

[JohnXDoe]

I'll do it.
ty Iskandar

[14CAPITALLETTERS]

why are the archives pwded

[Tripp_chaos]

They are? I can get in them...

[semi]

mm that was me sry when it closed there was no point in leaving it visible
it doesnt show a password for mods and i havent viewed logged out so i forgot
should be fine now

[Detective Dan]

Hey Jeremy, the forums look good, appreciate your work.

I must say, though, I am too disappointed that the Jam Session is gone. I'd really like to see a forum for things like recording techniques and gear, stuff that doesn't really fall into the instrument forums and warrants more serious answers than those that would be found in GD.

[Iskandar]

Those forums never had much activity which is why he got rid of them.

[Knifeboy]

We're well aware of that. We're just saying that the jam session was pretty essential, as a forum where the more technical recording (and singing!) questions that don't fit anywhere else could go

[Detective Dan]

I think the fact that they were kind of hidden towards the bottom with the classifieds made them get overlooked often.

Also, with the main demographic being Sputnik users now (not necessarily people who play instruments) I think an area to discuss other aspects of music would be applicable.

[Knifeboy]

Hurray it's back! :D Thanks a lot

[Klown]

Moderated threadstarting in the pit is probably the most horrible thing ever.

[Skyler]

Judging by most of the threads that got posted in GD, no it isn't.

[Alf™]

It provides no variety to the forum. Now we have like 5 active topics, covering a few bland subjects.

[Skyler]

Nobody's stopping you from making threads. Just don't make shitty ones.

[horseypie]

but we cant see what the threads are because they havent been approved

why have a general discussion topic if were only given general topics...those thread are going to go way off topic (i.e. you laugh you lose)\
its a horrible idea

[JohnXDoe]

why not grace us with some exemplary threads of your own, Skyler? i'm sure we would all marvel at the top notch quality

[Wish]

It isn't that bad. More often than not the only threads that won't get approved are those that would be instantly deleted.

[JohnXDoe]

its going to take some getting used to

my "Pop Music Sucks Pics Of Chicks" thread never got approved. that would not have been instantly deleted before. on the contrary those threads are very popular with thousands of views and well over 1000 posts when put up

nothing wrong with those threads. and they are very popular among many users

prudes and fags and christians aside

may not be for everybody. but everybody doesn't have to click

meanwhile my thread of pics of food was immediately approved

thats fine and thnx

[Klown]

So if a thread is sh‪itty delete it?

Don't force every thread to be moderated it's completely unnecessary and ruins all spontaneous discussion, people don't know if their thread has been denied by moderators or if there aren't any mods online to approve it. We've had like 5 new threads in the past 4 days when we'd usually have 5 pages of threads in 4 days, it's completely overzealous moderation and will cause the forum to stagnate ever more than it already has, no other decent forum uses thread moderation like this.

[<3<3<3]

perhaps just a 10 minute delay before the thread shows up?

that way an online mod can delete the thread if they notice it's naughty or ugly before a bunch of people post in it, without having to manually approve everything and limit new thread discussion.

[Tripp_chaos]

(Klown) Sometimes your avatar works out with what your typing then other times it completely contradicts what your saying and it makes me wonder if your lying to me... You never return my calls anymore what happen to the spark, I thought we had something special and not the foam helmet kind... :(

[JohnXDoe]

its true. sputnik music acts like a thread will hurt them. its completely mindless. look at this forum from a tech board i frequent. a tech board for chrissakes. and we're music people here!

http://forums.techpowerup.com/forumdisplay.php?f=10&order=desc

and a thread from said forum

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=47718

we can't have that here? why not?

and don't say "oh hax." GD had NOTHING to do with the hackings. or the users or the threads or the posts. if jeremy (all due respect) spent more time there and some of the so called "elitist" here who think they are too good to post there also, they would know that

i don't even know what happened tbh. and i post there all the time. but it seems one user got mad at a PNWI mod and the poop hit the fan. no one in GD lol'd. no one encouraged it. i mean we are just regular users and contributors to this site. what the hell are we supposed to do about it?

of course some don't mind this new thing...because all they do is post in The Community Thread and L&R anyway. but for others, we like to post threads. and people who have contributed in the past and present like a forum that...after they are done contributing they can go have a bit of fun in. and post freely

i posted very non offensive pics of girls in the Community Thread yesterday and was immediately taken to task by regular users just like myself for doing so. that is a bunch of BS

jeremy plz consider if you haven't already giving us a regular GD. its not nearly what you think it is. and yeah the internet has trolls, flamers, and rude people. so what. i've been here four years and have no complaints. we want for the most part a regular board. we shouldn't have to go elsewhere for that. we should have it here. and those who don't like it...well, they can go elsewhere or just gtfo back to their little community forums

you can build the community you want and have a GD

and not let some tech board put this one to shame :/

[Bleak123]

yeah so i was banned yesterday and my ban time is officially up but i haven't been unbanned.

the account name that was banned is gaslightanthem

[Iskandar]

I lifted it.
and don't say "oh hax." GD had NOTHING to do with the hackings. or the users or the threads or the posts. if jeremy (all due respect) spent more time there and some of the so called "elitist" here who think they are too good to post there also, they would know that

i don't even know what happened tbh. and i post there all the time. but it seems one user got mad at a PNWI mod and the poop hit the fan. no one in GD lol'd. no one encouraged it. i mean we are just regular users and contributors to this site. what the hell are we supposed to do about it?Oh yeah that was me.

Maybe GD didn't cause the hackings directly but it was still a cesspool of spam. It encouraged an attitude of irreverence towards the site, mods and admins and it's not surprising that hackings came next.
you can build the community you want and have a GDNot the old GD, no.
So if a thread is sh‪itty delete it?
Or we could just prevent shitty threads from being created because the majority of them will in fact be shitty.

[gaslightanthem]

thank you :)

[Huxton]

Iskandar is just jeremy under a different username

[JohnXDoe]

wrong Iskandar. on all counts

[JoshIsNumber3]

nah iskandar is too useful to be jeremy

zing

[horseypie]

so you guys want a general discussion that is completely filtered...that seems stupid

i think purple water had the best idea really...but saying that gd's postings encouraged spam attacks and hackings is silly

[semi]

Maybe GD didn't cause the hackings directly but it was still a cesspool of spam. It encouraged an attitude of irreverence towards the site, mods and admins and it's not surprising that hackings came next.what are you talking about it was fine and chad didnt even post in the pit so explain to me how they are even related
in fact he posted more in pnwi than the pit so delete that
or just shut down all of mx because chad happens to post there

and with the moderated threads what wish said
you wouldnt have seen those threads anyway because we delete them at once
dont be afraid to make threads and if they arent bad i will approve them

[mx]

The new community forum is going to stay the way it is - no general GD in the old format.

[Meatplow]

gd sucked before anyway

[Underachiever]

How do you subscribe to a thread?

[Gumble Bee]

it was a lot better when you weren't confined to 4 bland topics


do you have any idea how many epic threads came from nothing?

[Klown]

but gumble bee lots of topics cause hackings which is why they must be stopped

[Pariah]

How do you subscribe to a thread?

When in the thread you want to subscribe to, click Thread Tools > Subscribe to this thread.

[mx]

but gumble bee lots of topics cause hackings which is why they must be stopped

You can keep mocking it all of you like, but it's not going to win you GD back. I have my reasons for the change, and I understand that not everyone will agree.

[g°®†]

You can keep mocking it all of you like, but it's not going to win you GD back. I have my reasons for the change, and I understand that not everyone will agree.



isn't what we have set up now essentially the SAME EXACT THING as GD?

[Klown]

You can keep mocking it all of you like, but it's not going to win you GD back. I have my reasons for the change, and I understand that not everyone will agree.

Why fix something that wasn't broken?

[JohnXDoe]

isn't what we have set up now essentially the SAME EXACT THING as GD?
it is the exact same thing. i thought when these changes were made they were just the start of things. but this is it, apparently

its the exact same thing...the only difference is we can't make threads. and the threads that are "approved' aren't much fun or interesting

[Reaganista]

i dont want to see another iskandar post ever again but i cant put him on ignore can someone fix this please

[mx]

isn't what we have set up now essentially the SAME EXACT THING as GD?

If it's the same thing, why are you complaining?

Why fix something that wasn't broken?

It was broken

[Klown]

It was broken
How was it broken?

[mx]

It was a cesspool of spam and immaturity. I don't see why I should have to pay server bills for content I'm not interested in promoting. Go to 4chan

[Jay Link]

I do agree with mx on this one, and now it seems traffic is building up again for the entire forum. I think many users were tired of what GD had become.

[PunkItUp]

congrats MX you have hit the 50 year old demographic right on the head

"cesspool of spam and immaturity"

welcome to the internet, webmaster Ferwerda

and the old GD was nothing like 4chan and did not have that sort of content

i honestly think you have snapped your cap :(


edit: and while i have you here plz have a pow wow with your mod team and tell them to be more courteous. twice i have been told by your most veteran mod that i "suck" when i do no such thing. on the contrary i am a very benign poster who would never think to 4chan this fine site up. and another moderator saw fit to delete some of my posts. why? although irreverent at times i am always on topic and bring teh funnies whenever i can.. if the threads are going to be moderated / approved then maybe at least i can post in them ffs!

thank you

yours truly

punkitup

"punking it up since '08" :cool:

[Anglachel]

i dont think ikik was srs but i could be wrong

but ikik is cool so shush

[mx]

congrats MX you have hit the 50 year old demographic right on the head

"cesspool of spam and immaturity"

welcome to the internet, webmaster Ferwerda

and the old GD was nothing like 4chan and did not have that sort of content

i honestly think you have snapped your cap


edit: and while i have you here plz have a pow wow with your mod team and tell them to be more courteous. twice i have been told by your most veteran mod that i "suck" when i do no such thing. on the contrary i am a very benign poster who would never think to 4chan this fine site up. and another moderator saw fit to delete some of my posts. why? although irreverent at times i am always on topic and bring teh funnies whenever i can.. if the threads are going to be moderated / approved then maybe at least i can post in them ffs!

thank you

yours truly

punkitup

"punking it up since '08

Thanks JXD. What you're missing is that I actually pay for the webservers. This isn't an anarchy. If I'm out of touch, so be it. I'm not 13 anymore.

[Alf™]

If you were smart, you would have been making money off of this site for years.

[mx]

Nobody wants ad space on forums -- partly due to the uncertainty regarding quality of content. Precisely the problem we have here.

Nice ad hominem attack, btw

[Iskandar]

"cesspool of spam and immaturity"

welcome to the internet, webmaster Ferwerda
The other forums aren't like that.

[horseypie]

have you seen the guitar forum

[<3<3<3]

So since the threads are modded if you ever need more active mods to help clear them out and keep it going, I'll volunteer myself.

I may not be the most super active poster, but I browse quite often and could probably help some.

Just offering.

[JohnXDoe]

Nobody wants ad space on forums -- partly due to the uncertainty regarding quality of content. Precisely the problem we have here.

oic

well doesn't this work a little better then "i have my reasons" or "i'm not paying server money for that sort of immaturity i'm not 13 anymore"

also their is a BIG difference between 4chan style content and a "pit" like forum. which advertisers really wouldn't worry about. just sayin'

also, your staff deleting harmless posts and telling users they "suck" isn't really very satisfying. at least not to me. i would like to feel i have the freedom to post as i wish here. even if sometimes my posts are silly or irreverent. i don't post nudes, flame or troll others, or hack your site, at least :/

[mx]

well doesn't this work a little better then "i have my reasons" or "i'm not paying server money for that sort of immaturity i'm not 13 anymore"


Actually, no -- they are one and the same. In the end I'm going to make decisions while running the site, and I expect that some of those decisions will be unpopular. However, I'm tired of giving exhaustive explanations for every decision regarding the forums. In the end, it's not your call.

JXD, you may not hack, and you're honestly not a bad user. But you need to know when to let things go.

Besides, isn't it someone ironic you are critiquing my replies when you are making statements like:

welcome to the internet, webmaster Ferwerda
i honestly think you have snapped your cap
?

If you adopt an aggressive tone towards me, expect one back. I'm just trying to do what I think is best for the site.

[TimJim]

its your money an your time inputted in the design, so i dont see why anyone should complain when if sputnik were to be no more they would cry and always complain on other forums how its not as good as good old sputnik

myself included

[ikikdababy]

I'm not saying you have zero legitimate complaints... but can we calm down on crying about having a little fun poked at your crappy alter?

On the list of problems with the site, I don't think mod-staff courtesy is too terribly high up there. If you can't take a joke then what can you do? I have always enjoyed making fun of other users and I like to take the same kind of light-hearted abuse back. I won't ban you for it and it's nothing personal... it's just for fun.

Has all the fun been sucked out of this place? Is the internet officially serious business now?

Note: Usually I don't bother defending myself against folks who can't take a joke, but I'm doing this now because I have always liked you as a poster. Take that for what it's worth.

[mx]

so those are just things i've observed about your site, jeremy. and when your staff and certain mods and even an Admin sets a bad tone for others, the bad tone carries over. you can't really blame the average user for that or an open and fun GD

Please don't get me wrong -- I'm not saying the site has always been well run. To be honest, I haven't invested nearly the time I should have in the maintenance of these forums, because I was preoccupied with the review site.

That doesn't mean that things can't begin to change now. And once again, I'm not saying that you are a bad user. We're just not bringing the old Pit back.

[TimJim]

http://sputnikmusic.com/forums/showpost.php?p=17133650&postcount=471

ban plz

[g°®†]

If it's the same thing, why are you complaining?



It was broken



I'm not complaining. Others are. :thumb:

[FingersOfStone]

fast forward a bit and we have problems in GD. but the biggest problem so far as i can see was your Admin making deals for nudie pics of underage girls with the person who hacks the site...and then having said pics posted all over the board.


whatever happened to jellepeer anyway?

I think the site's new organization is good, needing threads to be approved is dumb but it's not my call I guess

If i might make a suggestion, I say delete the guitar forum

[FingersOfStone]

Also, is there any chance any sort of pm'ing system will ever be implemented

[g°®†]

Also, is there any chance any sort of pm'ing system will ever be implemented



this. I vote we turn this site into Twitter beta version 2.0

[Dinosawesome]

PM = pointless messaging?

C'mon guys, with gmail, hotmail, aim, msn, facebook, myspace, irc and a billion other communication mediums, do we really need PMs?

[YDload]

PM = pointless messaging?

hahahahahahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhha, good one.

[Alf™]

lolol that was a good one

[Huxton]

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=572421

why were my posts deleted in that thread they werent porn or anything which has not been present in a million other pics posted by a million other people im starting to think you dont like me guys

[(*The Noonward Race*)]

i know what a great idea would be, to turn off img tags for specific users especially chad

and just continually do it to his accounts

[Huxton]

thats kinda mean

[(*The Noonward Race*)]

or at least take away his posting rights... but for the love god dont ban him lol

[Huxton]

they made me invisible before but you probably didnt notice what with the nature of invisibility and all

[(*The Noonward Race*)]

oh yah that tachy thing, but if they take away ur image privs or posting priv (that would be funny) you deserve it

[Huxton]

but i'd just make a new account its pretty pointless

[(*The Noonward Race*)]

what a vexing flux that is this forum's politics, how can this be? how can life become this ghostly fragment of logos. there is no end to this tide

[sweboy]

an alternative solution to the problem of chad posting shock images would be if chad just stopped posting shock images

just putting it out there for everyone to reflect upon, not sayin' it's nec. the best

[Huxton]

just make it ok to post shock images then theres no problem is there see i have already solved the problem

[(*The Noonward Race*)]

we're all dumb this isn't working

[Underachiever]

I need somebody to explain to me why I am banned on the reviews section, but not on the forums. Why am I banned in the first place?

[(*The Noonward Race*)]

maybe you were acting chad-like

[JoshIsNumber3]

my only concern is that i'm afraid that some day krup will come back and start posting again.

[TimJim]

krup was cool what do you have against him?

[JoshIsNumber3]

yeah he is a pretty cool guy except eh was the biggest tool to ever breathe and his own biggest fan and doesn't afraid of anything

[YDload]

he was the stereotypical conspiracy theorist stoner dude who didnt belive in the moon or something

[semi]

wait is mister che not kurrupt with a name change

[Jom]

I was wrong!

[(*The Noonward Race*)]

no that can't be

[Wish]

I thought they were different people.

[horseypie]

mr che is cool though...

[EightMilesHigh]

I thought they were different people.

this

mister che is not a crackhead who got hold of the wrong stuff

[YDload]

the IP addresses dont match. maybe he moved away or used a proxy or something but i dont think he'd go through all that trouble

[Pariah]

They're not the same.

[hismajestythepope]

When does my ban get lifted?

Account = i am the robots

I think its in 2010, but I just wanna know what month, is it April or May?

[Pariah]

March 31st, ~9:00 PM central.

[Alf™]

what a pleasant surprise for user robots i am the

[fingers mccoy]

my only concern is that i'm afraid that some day krup will come back and start posting again.

oh god that would be awful

chromatically speaking

[misterfitch]

in all seriousness though, why was that change made? now things are dying faster. what is the objective of the new regulations?

[TimJim]

no spam bullscheiße

[misterfitch]

thank you for the avatar, but i wanted the full size.

[Pariah]

100x100, 19.5KB is all you get. Sorry. Mods can't upload large avatars for users.

Besides, it's gigantic.

[misterfitch]

that's fine. thank you.

where can i find answers to my other questions? they have probably been addressed somewhere already.

[Pariah]

Probably in this thread somewhere. Look around in the last few pages.

[misterfitch]

the conversation is over and jeremy has the right to do what he wants, but hopefully someone will think about something. making approval necessary for posted threads is a bad idea. people in a general discussion/community forum like to feel that they have the ability to create with spontaneity, and in the end what is a general discussion forum for but to please the largest number of users possible while drawing in more users, as long as doing so doesn't cause harm? even if the majority of threads are still accepted, my perception from looking at the threads in the community forum right now is that being at the whim of mods has added to most of them an unpleasant self-consciousness.

irreverence may not be pleasing to the sputnikmusic forum authorities but excessive regulation is destructive. the subtlety and irony that tend to go along with irreverence are appealing to a lot of people and in fact gave the pit much of its character. some people like it less but subjecting the normal posters who aren't terribly offended by levity to the will of those who are is deterrent to humor and joy.

"defiance" of authority (which arguably even exists on the internet) through spam, hacking, etc will always be around unless you do something really unusual like the SA technique of making people pay to sign up... obviously the solution you have now come to does eliminate a lot of spam (hacking i really doubt), but it is irrational because it just makes people unhappy AND overworks mods, more than deletion of unacceptable threads.

respectfully, your (i am hypothetically addressing jeremy here) personal preferences should not take precedence over those of the majority of users, especially since you hardly ever went into GD. obviously there are exceptions if users are causing harm with their unregulated words and discussing absolutely unacceptable things, but this really wasn't the case. you never involved yourself in that section of the site and it's not like you have to pay more for content you don't like than the content you do like.

none of this really matters and i don't come onto this site very often anymore, but i would rather enjoy GD when i do post in it and i think most other people would as well. no one has to listen to me but out of common decency it would be cool if someone did.

[misterfitch]

i realize it sounds like i am being hypocritical in that i want MY preferences to take precedence over those of others, but that's not the case. i just think enjoyment and creativity flow more freely when a careful balance has been reached between complete freedom and regulation, and this new method does not establish a balance.

also you killed GD even more.

[misterfitch]

also. the satisfaction of seeing your thread show up after you post it is what every one of us expects on every forum we ever post on ever. having to wait until some mod gets around to judging you is the most unnecessarily irritating thing i have ever experience on a forum, and just makes people want to leave rather than put up with that. perhaps your purpose is to drive away every poster who posts in the pit because it is a cesspool of immaturity and spam, but if so then why does it even exist? you only look at one aspect of the picture at a time, you only seem to see a "problem" and a "solution" and nothing else.

[Alf™]

lol at getting irritated because of a forum

oh well, new rules, who cares

this forum was struggling with posting quality, and someone is trying to help with that

[misterfitch]

i did mention that it doesn't matter that much. i'm not sure how else to satisfy your urge to show your indifference? anyways it's easy for me to write a lot.

someone is trying to help but i don't think it's working. that is why i posted.

[semi]

my good friend mistertitch it is good to see you and know that you are alive and well

as to your concerns about the new regulations personally i agree with you and dont see how the new regulations help anything. the last set of new regulations did more harm that good too. when postcount was disabled and two weeks needed to post in the pit it meant there could be no new users and it didnt fix anything since hacking continued to happen.
however whether anyone thinks they are a good idea or not jeremy has made it clear that
The new community forum is going to stay the way it is - no general GD in the old format.
You can keep mocking it all of you like, but it's not going to win you GD back. I have my reasons for the change, and I understand that not everyone will agree.
etc.
thank you for your tl;dr concern though

[Aaron]

http://sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?p=17153618#post17153618

Some lol spam.