View Full Version : I had no idea how racist the south still is.
lunchforthesky
08-26-2007, 05:36 PM
The “Jena 6” are six Black students who face the possibility of going to prison for many, many years because of a schoolyard fight. This story began on September 1, 2006 in the small town of Jena, Louisiana. A group of Black students sat under a “whites-only” tree in the schoolyard. Racist students responded immediately and the next day nooses were hanging from the tree for all to see.
The “Jena 6” are six Black students who face the possibility of going to prison for many, many years because of a schoolyard fight. This story began on September 1, 2006 in the small town of Jena, Louisiana. A group of Black students sat under a “whites-only” tree in the schoolyard. Racist students responded immediately and the next day nooses were hanging from the tree for all to see.
Tina Jones, the mother of Bryant Purvis who is one of the Jena 6, told Revolution what it was like hearing about the nooses hanging on the tree:
“I was like, what? [My son], myself and a lot of family members were really upset about that because to Black people that is offensive because you know over the years Black people were hung in trees. So I mean we felt like the white people were saying, ‘Well if you sit under this tree, we’re going to hang you.’ That’s how us as Black people felt, even though the white people said it was a prank. How could it be a prank when something like that was done to Black people over the years? And then they walk under this tree and then you hang nooses. And you know what that represents and that means to us -- if you go under this [tree] we’re going to hang you. I mean there’s no other way to look at that, and there’s nothing funny about that.”
Soon after the nooses were hung, most of the 93 Black students (out of a total student enrollment of 546) at Jena High School stood together under the tree, in a courageous act of protest. After this, a school assembly was called where a white district attorney told the Black students to keep their mouths shut about the nooses. He told them if he heard anything else about it, he “can make their lives go away with the stroke of his pen.”
When racist white students jumped a Black student, one white student got probation. But when a fight broke out that sent a white student to the hospital for an hour, the law came down on Mychal Bell, Robert Bailey, Theo Shaw, Carwin Jones, Bryant Purvis, and an unnamed minor--arresting these youth, who are now known as the Jena 6, and initially charging them with attempted murder. (see “Free the Jena Six! Jim Crow Injustice in Jena Louisiana,” Revolution #96).
Mychal Bell has already been convicted of second degree battery and conspiracy to commit second degree battery and could be sentenced to up to 22 years in prison. And the system is trying to make good on the threat to ruin the lives of the other five youth who still face serious charges. Many people still do not know about this tremendous outrage. But a nationwide struggle to free the Jena 6 is beginning to grow--and MUST get much bigger. The next court hearings for Mychal Bell and the rest of the Jena Six are scheduled to begin on September 4. Bell’s sentencing is scheduled for September 20.
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2007/08/15/18440890.php
GreyHam
08-26-2007, 05:40 PM
Its the land of liberty and equality
hoorah!
apparantly second degree battery requires the use of a weapon, of which there was no evidence of one being used
Reaganista
08-26-2007, 06:48 PM
hanging nooses is assault
sexymuffin
08-26-2007, 06:57 PM
bring back the jim crow laws tbh
sexymuffin
08-26-2007, 07:06 PM
quit following me
Chrizzle fo' Shizzle
08-26-2007, 07:11 PM
Ugh
Such a subjective last paragraph
italic zero
08-26-2007, 07:14 PM
it was a very poorly written article
is there a better one?
lunchforthesky
08-26-2007, 07:16 PM
What is google broken or something?
Article sucks i know but yeah, unless they have made up the whole story this is pretty unacceptable.
Reaganista
08-26-2007, 07:18 PM
What is google broken or something?
umm i dont know
why dont you tell us
lunchforthesky
08-26-2007, 07:19 PM
What and deprive you of all that excitement?
Reaganista
08-26-2007, 07:24 PM
um St. Louis is not 'the north'...
lunchforthesky
08-26-2007, 07:25 PM
Yeah I was thinking that too but I figured I just didn't know America too well.
-1up!-
08-26-2007, 07:51 PM
Yeah I read up on that story a while ago and was just straight outraged. But then again it's the United States so I wasn't surprised.
LittlePound
08-26-2007, 07:53 PM
um St. Louis is not 'the north'...
it's not part of the "south" either, it has a much great northern influence to it and if you want to be picky about it, it never seceded so technically it is part of the north.
PerpetualBurn
08-26-2007, 08:51 PM
I've missed you LittlePound.
Hedgedive
08-26-2007, 08:59 PM
black people were hung in trees.
*hanged
Otherside
08-26-2007, 09:05 PM
hungeded*
Danger Bird
08-26-2007, 09:05 PM
“I was like, what? [My son], myself and a lot of family members were really upset about that because to Black people that is offensive because you know over the years Black people were hung in trees. So I mean we felt like the white people were saying, ‘Well if you sit under this tree, we’re going to hang you.’"
How perceptive.
GreyHam
08-26-2007, 09:09 PM
hang on, is it 'hung' or 'hanged'
Hanged. But that's not important.
Danger Bird
08-26-2007, 09:12 PM
no, semantics>whether or not institutionalized racism still exists in our society
Jake=Suck
08-26-2007, 09:12 PM
hanged
edit: beaten.
PerpetualBurn
08-26-2007, 09:14 PM
Actually there's a massive misconception that hanged is correct when either is entirely acceptable.
:amaze:
08-26-2007, 09:15 PM
i thought it was a well-known fact that blacks are hung?
:amaze:
PerpetualBurn
08-26-2007, 09:18 PM
Well my Dad's Welsh and my Mum's Hungarian.
So that makes me Well-Hung.
GreyHam
08-26-2007, 09:23 PM
no, semantics>whether or not institutionalized racism still exists in our society
sozard, only asking
hung seems better written but hanged seems better said
but anyways, please continue
italic zero
08-26-2007, 09:55 PM
Actually there's a massive misconception that hanged is correct when either is entirely acceptable.
So massive that it has misled both the Oxford English Dictionary and Garner's Modern American Usage?
Unless you're going to be annoyingly picky and point out that someone has to be hung in order to be hanged, but jeez.
Iscariot
08-27-2007, 01:51 AM
“I was like, what? [My son], myself and a lot of family members were really upset about that because to Black people that is offensive because you know over the years Black people were hung in trees. So I mean we felt like the white people were saying, ‘Well if you sit under this tree, we’re going to hang you.’ That’s how us as Black people felt, even though the white people said it was a prank. How could it be a prank when something like that was done to Black people over the years? And then they walk under this tree and then you hang nooses. And you know what that represents and that means to us -- if you go under this [tree] we’re going to hang you. I mean there’s no other way to look at that, and there’s nothing funny about that.”
why does it seem like she barely understands what she's talking about
Reaganista
08-27-2007, 03:12 AM
it's not part of the "south" either, it has a much great northern influence to it and if you want to be picky about it, it never seceded so technically it is part of the north.
no it's not
spitfirejunky
08-27-2007, 03:19 AM
white
Black
Strange capitalization...
Jewmanji
08-27-2007, 06:24 AM
Jews are persecuted everywhere.
lunchforthesky
08-27-2007, 06:30 AM
Jews are persecuted everywhere.
Maybe in Iran. In America they are very popular.
MetalSpine
08-27-2007, 07:07 AM
No matter where they are, they're seen to be money grabbing solicitors and loan sharks.
lunchforthesky
08-27-2007, 07:16 AM
No matter where they are, they're seen to be money grabbing solicitors and loan sharks.
The 16th century wants their stereotype back.
PerpetualBurn
08-27-2007, 08:04 AM
So massive that it has misled both the Oxford English Dictionary and Garner's Modern American Usage?
Unless you're going to be annoyingly picky and point out that someone has to be hung in order to be hanged, but jeez.
Well we could argue about whether MX uses conversational or formal English.
Or we could argue about the derivations of past participles of the infinitive "to hang".
I don't particularly want to do either.
I don't think it's me being annoyingly picky by saying that both would be acceptable in the given context.
ringworm
08-27-2007, 08:28 AM
ughh, horrible story
but dont let that make you think the South is racist, or that racism in the entire country is limited to white people only
Hababi
08-27-2007, 08:30 AM
It's always better to find an objective, respectable source :\
YouGottaBeCrazy
08-27-2007, 09:03 AM
the north is still racist. who gives a **** about the south?
italic zero
08-27-2007, 01:04 PM
Well we could argue about whether MX uses conversational or formal English.
Or we could argue about the derivations of past participles of the infinitive "to hang".
I don't particularly want to do either.
I don't think it's me being annoyingly picky by saying that both would be acceptable in the given context.
It's fine in its context, but when abstracted as several members did, they are questioning which is correct; not just in that context but in general. The distinction between hanged and hung is a marginally useful one. As a quibble, it's just as valid as any other grammatical quibble: probably unnecessary on mx, but useful to know. You seemed to be saying that there was no distiction--in any context.
The annoyingly picky comment referred to an argument you didn't, but could've made.
BassVirtuoso
08-27-2007, 02:27 PM
I don't believe that article at all. If that actually happened I'm sure the NAACP would be all over it and the school would be going through some major reworkings, and so would the courts.
Akira
08-27-2007, 03:04 PM
The story is true, but out of date. The one guy's charge was reduced to aggravated second-degree battery, and I believe he was convicted.
It's pretty much impossible to try to say we don't still live in a shockingly racist country, since this has gotten so little mainstream coverage.
Hababi
08-27-2007, 03:16 PM
It's pretty much impossible to try to say we don't still live in a shockingly racist country, since this has gotten so little mainstream coverage.
So...you're alleging that the mainstream media is racist?
I don't believe that article at all. If that actually happened I'm sure the NAACP would be all over it and the school would be going through some major reworkings, and so would the courts.
Yes.
Reaganista
08-27-2007, 04:40 PM
of course the media is racist
Akira
08-27-2007, 04:41 PM
No. I'm alleging that whether we want to admit it or not, the country still have some serious race issues when a google search only pulled a couple of hits to sites that I would consider legitimate sources.
PerpetualBurn
08-27-2007, 06:16 PM
they are questioning which is correct; not just in that context but in general.
In language, there's no such thing as correct without specific context.
Danger Bird
08-27-2007, 10:27 PM
So...you're alleging that the mainstream media is racist?
http://yahooracists.ytmnd.com/
italic zero
08-27-2007, 10:54 PM
In language, there's no such thing as correct without specific context.
Yeah, but you know the answer he was looking for. Besides, if you had mentioned context in your original post this argument would never have started.
http://yahooracists.ytmnd.com/
YTMND delivers.
AIRIC
08-31-2007, 05:36 PM
The weapon required for his battery charge was actually one of the students shoes. He beat the white kid with his shoe.
it's not part of the "south" either, it has a much great northern influence to it and if you want to be picky about it, it never seceded so technically it is part of the north.
meh it's a border state
plenty of confederates came from MO. imo that means it's not a member of the traditional abolitionist north as far as this discussion goes.
Reaganista
08-31-2007, 08:03 PM
if it's closer to a great lake than NYC then it's not part of the north
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