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meteor_47
08-17-2007, 05:04 AM
I kind of find bands with singer guitarists more listenable, so I thought we could make a list.

Metallica
Megadeth
Machine Head
Trivium
Opeth
Bullet for my Valentine
Soulfly
Sepultura
Ektomorf

Cant really think of more. Do you have any recommendations?
EADG
08-17-2007, 05:06 AM
What difference does it make if the singer plays guitar?
badtaste
08-17-2007, 05:10 AM
Yeah, what's the point? As long as the music is good, who cares about the composition of the band.
Jondur
08-17-2007, 05:11 AM
Wierdest thread ever. I can think of lots but whether they're better because the guitarist also sings (or vice versa)? I don't think so.

I would like the OP to explain himself.
meteor_47
08-17-2007, 05:12 AM
The riffs he plays while he sings are different. Because he's got to play guitar and sing.

This makes the songs different compared to a five piece band.
EADG
08-17-2007, 05:13 AM
Yeah


I can see if you prefer bands with 2 guitars


but I don't see why it matters if one of the guitarists is also the singer
Grumma
08-17-2007, 05:25 AM
Yeah


I can see if you prefer bands with 2 guitars


but I don't see why it matters if one of the guitarists is also the singer

Spose "theoretically" the dual player won't be playin fancy stuff while singing
EADG
08-17-2007, 05:46 AM
Spose "theoretically" the dual player won't be playin fancy stuff while singing

Yeah in most cases but not always
Apocalyptic Raids
08-17-2007, 06:36 AM
wtf @ this thread
CarloVonSexron
08-17-2007, 06:38 AM
Qotsa
Apocalyptic Raids
08-17-2007, 06:42 AM
He asked for Metal.
Dimmu Burger
08-17-2007, 07:17 AM
I personally prefer the singer to not play another instrument. It makes it easier for the vocals to be more dynamic and not so syncopated with the music. When my old band got rid of our singer and I became the singer, I chose to not play bass anymore for that very reason.
meteor_47
08-17-2007, 07:29 AM
I personally prefer the singer to not play another instrument. It makes it easier for the vocals to be more dynamic and not so syncopated with the music. When my old band got rid of our singer and I became the singer, I chose to not play bass anymore for that very reason.

Yeah I know, and I prefer it the other way round. ;)
Jondur
08-17-2007, 07:35 AM
Why? What difference do you notice?
Dimmu Burger
08-17-2007, 07:55 AM
Yeah I know, and I prefer it the other way round. ;)

And I respect that. Also when the singer doesn't play another instrument, it can make for a more energetic live show, since he isn't stuck at the same place on the stage the whole time.

And don't you dare bring up headset microphones!!
TojesDolan
08-17-2007, 08:55 AM
I kind of find bands with singer guitarists more listenable

wait what

how's that relevant at all
Dimmu Burger
08-17-2007, 09:06 AM
wait what

how's that relevant at all

I'll second that. As far as listenable, I don't understand.
meteor_47
08-17-2007, 09:48 AM
Sorry, I meant more pleasant to my ears.
G_Mac07
08-17-2007, 09:51 AM
Would bands with a vocalist who is also a keyboardist/bassist/drummer/whatever be equally appealing to you, threadstarter?
Knifeboy
08-17-2007, 10:00 AM
.. I kinda like bands better if they consist of a small amount of people, doing alot.
I guess it's a respect kinda thing..
Even though it shouldn't change the way I view the music, it sometimes does
But then again, bands with less members usually make more consistent music, due to lack of conflicting opinions... I enjoy that sometimes..

.. This post is mildly offtopic
G_Mac07
08-17-2007, 10:05 AM
I know what you're getting at, and I can agree.

Seeing a band with 6+ members is offputting for me. I couldn't give you a valid reason as to why, it just does.

Though when I see 3 piece putting out a massive sound, they'll get my full attention as I stand in awe of how they can compose something that seems so captivating never ceases to amaze me.

/also off topic
meteor_47
08-17-2007, 02:14 PM
Yeah its a respect kind of thing. That's why i prefer their music.
shane
08-17-2007, 08:32 PM
Thats crazy, but you left out some of the best bands like that!!! DEATH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Immortal, Hate Eternal, Nile, Behemoth are all singer/guitarist, but they are only 3 piece.
Dimmu Burger
08-18-2007, 07:39 AM
I prefer a 2 piece like the White Stripes. :thumb:
masscows
08-18-2007, 07:41 AM
Dying Fetus
Incantation, though theyre a power trio
Immolation; does bass count?
Dissection

basically, there's alot.
Riva
08-18-2007, 08:02 AM
.. I kinda like bands better if they consist of a small amount of people, doing alot.
I guess it's a respect kinda thing..
Even though it shouldn't change the way I view the music, it sometimes does
But then again, bands with less members usually make more consistent music, due to lack of conflicting opinions... I enjoy that sometimes..

.. This post is mildly offtopic

This is why Mike Oldfield is the greatest musician of all time, amirite?

In any case, for the threadstarter:

Dungeon
The Red Paintings
Pink Floyd
The Kinks
Knifeboy
08-18-2007, 10:10 AM
This is why Mike Oldfield is the greatest musician of all time, amirite?



Actually, no.. The ability to play several instruments doesn't really impress me at all.
It's when they do it at the same time that I get interested :p
Dimmu Burger
08-18-2007, 10:17 AM
Actually, no.. The ability to play several instruments doesn't really impress me at all.
It's when they do it at the same time that I get interested :p

Freakin A!
Shattered_Future
08-18-2007, 10:31 AM
Hypocrisy. Although Tagtgren's (how the **** DO YOU SPELL HIS NAME) guitar riffs aren't all that complicated when he growls.

Evergrey also have a singer guitarist, but they're a 5 piece.
masscows
08-18-2007, 10:36 AM
Thats crazy, but you left out some of the best bands like that!!! DEATH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Immortal, Hate Eternal, Nile, Behemoth are all singer/guitarist, but they are only 3 piece.
nile and behemoth play live as 4 piece
Meatplow
08-18-2007, 10:41 AM
I don't think it influences the song so much. Perhaps you prefer rhythm playing whilst someone sings? idk
Eliminator
08-18-2007, 10:55 AM
I prefer a 2 piece like the White Stripes. :thumb:

lightning bolt blow away every two piece band
Dimmu Burger
08-18-2007, 11:26 AM
lightning bolt blow away every two piece band

What are they like?
Shattered_Future
08-18-2007, 11:53 AM
Lightning Bolt just kind of randomly bang on their respective instruments.
Eliminator
08-18-2007, 11:54 AM
yeah that's exactly what they do!
Dimmu Burger
08-18-2007, 11:54 AM
Lightning Bolt just kind of randomly bang on their respective instruments.

Lol sounds like a lot of stuff I listen to.
Ayliffe
08-18-2007, 02:13 PM
opeth is a five piece
MetalSpine
08-18-2007, 02:23 PM
Insomnium has a singer/guitarist
Knifeboy
08-18-2007, 03:07 PM
lightning bolt blow away every two piece band

El Ten Eleven >>>>> Lightning Bolt

http://tinyurl.com/2u4zma
Eliminator
08-18-2007, 03:09 PM
That was kind of boring.
Knifeboy
08-18-2007, 03:10 PM
.. I find Lightning Bolt to be extremely boring

And I like how you called it boring before watching it?

unless you timetravel (or have seen it before)
Eliminator
08-18-2007, 03:11 PM
That's great to know. Maybe later you can post more links of amazing two piece bands!
alytee123
08-18-2007, 03:40 PM
Araya and Benton from Slayer and Deicide play Bass and sings if that can count...

Strapping Young Lad
Sum 41 used to be, though not really metal.
Children Of Bodom
Annihilator
Black Label Society
Agalloch
Riva
08-18-2007, 07:26 PM
.. I find Lightning Bolt to be extremely boring

And I like how you called it boring before watching it?

unless you timetravel (or have seen it before)

I watched it and I am sure that El Ten Eleven have a wonderful career as a manufacturer of sleeping aids.
playguitar
08-19-2007, 03:11 AM
This thread is stupid.
The singer/guitarist plays the same stuff as the other guitarist 99% of the time.
Hetfield's rhythm is the same as Hammet's, and Metallica would sound the same if Hetfield was just singing anyway.
But...
Machine Head
Necrophagist
SEPULTURA
DEATH
Pestilence
ATHEIST
pate
08-19-2007, 10:27 AM
ATHEIST

Not anymore.
meteor_47
08-19-2007, 11:16 AM
Listen to bands like Killswitch Engage.

The guitars and the vocals do kind of different melodies. These stuff are not really easy to play and sing at the same time.

On the other hand, Metallica's stuff are easier to play and sing. Its not that Metallica's riff are bad, its just built differently..

Still dont agree there is a difference between bands with singer/guitarist and bands with no instrument singers?
Dimmu Burger
08-19-2007, 11:23 AM
Still dont agree there is a difference between bands with singer/guitarist and bands with no instrument singers?

I'll give you a million bucks if I can put on some music and you tell me if the singer is playing an instrument or not. :thumb:
masterchaos
08-19-2007, 11:32 AM
This thread is stupid.
The singer/guitarist plays the same stuff as the other guitarist 99% of the time.
Hetfield's rhythm is the same as Hammet's, and Metallica would sound the same if Hetfield was just singing anyway.

The reason why Het gets props for singing and playing is because a lot of things he does rythmically on guitar will differ from the pattern of his vocals. i.e Disposable Heroes
meteor_47
08-19-2007, 12:11 PM
I'll give you a million bucks if I can put on some music and you tell me if the singer is playing an instrument or not. :thumb:

Well hearing is a bit hard. But if you give me the tabs i can tell you. (provided its recorded live or something i.e he hasnt added any aditional guitar tracks)
Dimmu Burger
08-19-2007, 12:24 PM
Well hearing is a bit hard. But if you give me the tabs i can tell you. (provided its recorded live or something i.e he hasnt added any aditional guitar tracks)

Hmmm....If you can't do it by hearing it, then you're not getting the million bucks. And I don't see how you can figure it out with tabs but not by listening.
meteor_47
08-19-2007, 12:38 PM
Because I am a singer guitarist and these things make a difference. You might notice no difference in the music but if you learn to play those songs and you sing it you will understand my point. There are songs that you can play the guitar parts and do the vocals separately, but doing them at the same time is difficult.
pate
08-19-2007, 01:59 PM
You can play anything while singing anything else on top of it. It just takes practice.
meteor_47
08-19-2007, 02:07 PM
You can play anything while singing anything else on top of it. It just takes practice.

LOL
pate
08-19-2007, 02:20 PM
What
meteor_47
08-19-2007, 02:33 PM
Do you play guitar?
pate
08-19-2007, 02:44 PM
Yes. It just takes practice.
Shattered_Future
08-19-2007, 02:49 PM
Yeah, it's quite hard to do it, but it can be done.

I can do like power chord passages while singing in a crappy voice, but I can't sing while playing technical stuff.

Then again, I can't sing very well at all, so maybe I should just play guitar.
MetalSpine
08-29-2007, 06:59 AM
Ben Burnley from Breaking Benjamin sings and plays guitar. They were classed as alternative metal but I don't know. more hard rock i'd say :S
Luc214
08-29-2007, 11:36 AM
Necrophagist proves technical playing/singing can be done.
Buttloaves
08-29-2007, 11:49 PM
Behemoth. Oh wait.
Hbp
08-30-2007, 02:06 AM
Current Cynic.
crazyman
08-30-2007, 03:50 PM
i understand what the threadstarter is trying to say, but i just don't agree with him and i don't think anybody agrees with him and also he wears woman's panties
acefrehleyjendell
08-30-2007, 08:56 PM
This is why Mike Oldfield is the greatest musician of all time, amirite?

In any case, for the threadstarter:

Dungeon
The Red Paintings
Pink Floyd
The Kinks


DUNGEON

You sir, are a legend:chug:
Best Aussie band ever. Now as LORD are just as good.
Different lineup though. And LT is an amazing singer, and a legendary guitar player. Nice guy too.