thinken about getting a new snare.

[paul1111]

So I recently decided to buy a new snare, and turn my ludwig accent one onto a tenor drum.

So I remember at a jazz band concert before, I used my band teachers ludwig rocker elite pilocco(sp) snare and loved it.

So im thinking about getting one for a main snare. But Ive never seen anyone use one as a main snare, and wondered if there is a reason for it?

Im looking for a lot of crack, and that drum fit my profile taiste too the letter.

any other imput is welcome.

[the_pure_drummer]

any kinda budget?

[paul1111]

Id say roughly 150-200 USD.

my B-day is the 3rd of sept,and my dads one of thoses kind of guys to ask early.

[the_pure_drummer]

ahhhh cool.

Hmmmmm......look into some yamaha snares there extremely good and pretty low priced compared to some others.

Alot of people will tell you to look into black panther snares and so they should because there mazing but im not sure if your price range will go that far.
Make sure you look on ebay for some killer deals!

[crazyguy832]

Black Panther!!!!!!!

\m/>_<\m/

[paul1111]

I prob. will look on ebay.

I would love that rocker elite, but its been discontinued

[gimp fest]

it's piccolo for ebay reference

[We_Love_Lime]

go for the rocker...
You might be able to find it on ebay, considering you said you probably will look on ebay.

Discontinued models > Everything else.

[paul1111]

ya, I love it

thanks for the help all, rep all around.

[paul1111]

speaking of rocker elites this is my band teachers beast\

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f87/starman4884/jhi.jpg


http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f87/starman4884/86y.jpg

[ant_182]

Can you try them out? thats the best thing

[We_Love_Lime]

He already has Ant.

[paul1111]

Can you try them out? thats the best thing

Ya, i did at a jazz concert.

[ant_182]

Sorry, bit doped up on syndol lol. Just get the snare you love :) Projection shouln't be an issue. Mic it if needed. Dont if not

[Chippy569]

piccolo snares (snares less than 4" deep) are FULL of crack. they have no real shell tone, so... crack central. More crack than NYC. Put some 30 strand wires on there, too, for some SERIOUS crack.

as for a specific model........ yamaha brass. MMMM Mmmmm mmmmmmmm.....

[We_Love_Lime]

I hate when rappers try to be hard and say they smoke reefer on the block.
Real thugs use Mandrake.

[the_pure_drummer]

speaking of rocker elites this is my band teachers beast\

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f87/starman4884/jhi.jpg


http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f87/starman4884/86y.jpg

CRAZY!

[JIRONS]

Black Beauty Supraphonic

Black Panther

[Talos]

Pearl Firecracker Steel
Theyre amazing, youll get more crack outta that then you would the normal Fircracker cus thats wooden.
Maybe look into the Pearl Sensitone, if I remember rightly thats similar to a JJ Sig which is an amazing snare, especially if you love a lot of crack attack [whey, thats pretty cool :lol:]

[paul1111]

Pearl Firecracker Steel
Theyre amazing, youll get more crack outta that then you would the normal Fircracker cus thats wooden.
Maybe look into the Pearl Sensitone, if I remember rightly thats similar to a JJ Sig which is an amazing snare, especially if you love a lot of crack attack [whey, thats pretty cool :lol:]

thats what I want, a LOT of crack. I play a lot of hard rock, so it will be perfect.

[Talos]

Hmm well then the ones I suggested are definitely ones you should check out.
Especially the Pearl Sensitone or Pearl JJ Signature, I mean, I use the JJ snare to record with, I dont have enough money to buy one so I borrow it for recordings and let me tell you. Its amazing, crack the batter hella tight and that thing is awesome.

[paul1111]

the jj is a little out of my price range

[paul1111]

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Pearl-B1330-Brass-Piccolo-Snare-Drum?sku=447989

this looks to be a preety good match. anyone have experence?

[drummguy731]

I'd save a bit and get the Chad Smith Sig drum, that's an amazing snare. I mean, if you have the money, I guess you could buy a piccolo, but I'd get a good snare that can get a lot of crack but also be tuned other ways for various situations.

[paul1111]

I'd save a bit and get the Chad Smith Sig drum, that's an amazing snare. I mean, if you have the money, I guess you could buy a piccolo, but I'd get a good snare that can get a lot of crack but also be tuned other ways for various situations.

well, you see, im asking for it for my B-day, but dont want to get too pricy. I think the one I posted earier might be good, oponions?

[Undisco Kidd]

yamaha musashi 12x6.
full of crack.

but with really good body
and also a groove wedge.

[paul1111]

yamaha musashi 12x6.
full of crack.

but with really good body
and also a groove wedge.

uh...what?

[Undisco Kidd]

uh...what?

http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/6/7/4/256674.jpg

7 plies (i think) of (i think) oak. gives more umph to cross sticking

[paul1111]

http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/6/7/4/256674.jpg

7 plies (i think) of (i think) oak. gives more umph to cross sticking

oh, cool

[Panopticon]

If you're playing hard rock a piccolo snare is a bad choice. Get something 5.5-6.5" deep.

[paul1111]

If you're playing hard rock a piccolo snare is a bad choice. Get something 5.5-6.5" deep.

why, crack=good for hard rock.

[Undisco Kidd]

why, crack=good for hard rock.

something 3-4'' deep won't have much body to it.

the 12x6 musashi is definitely worth a try.

[paul1111]

what type of sound will it produce, like a deep crack, or a lot of ring, cause i HATE it when my snare rings.

[Panopticon]

something 3-4'' deep won't have much body to it.

the 12x6 musashi is definitely worth a try.

Yes in hard rock there is crack, but theres also lots of body.

You can tune a deep snare to have lots of crack. My 14x6.5" black beauty has TONS of crack AND body.

[paul1111]

Yes in hard rock there is crack, but theres also lots of body.

You can tune a deep snare to have lots of crack. My 14x6.5" black beauty has TONS of crack AND body.

thats 400 bucks out of my price range

[drummguy731]

Yeah, snares get pricey real easily. I think the Musashi snare is a pretty good choice, everyone who owns them seems to love them to death, I'd try them out.

[paul1111]

k, thanks all. Il see if drumworld has one in stock.

[Panopticon]

thats 400 bucks out of my price range

I didn't mean you should buy it i was just saying that deep snares can also have lots of crack.

[santi3hg]

Yeap, I love my 13x6.5 Musashi Oak. Very loud crack, and depending on what head you get it will determine how it will sound really. I have a PS3 so it is very loud, cracky, but dry as well.

[We_Love_Lime]

Hmm
I still recommend you get the snare you wanted at the beginning.

[fishbulb]

Ya, i did at a jazz concert.

That kit and jazz shouldn't mix very well.


Also, my stock PDP MX snare (14" x 5.5") has a lot of crack and i like it a lot, so maybe any maple snare around those dimensions?