BOOOOOOOM-Stand Question

[Aaron]

Yo cats,
I've searched the interweb for yonkers and am lost. Anyone know a boom that'll put a 22" heavy-weight ride over a bass drum at a height of 24 inches? I need it to boom 16" away from it's base and still support the cymbal but stay lowl. Pearl BC-2000 is the only thing I can think of but it doesn't look like it'll get my the horizontal distance i'm after. Cheers for anyone's help.

[drummguy731]

I know the Yamaha 900 Series is supposed to be pretty light and sturdy. It's also good on the wallet.

[Aaron]

Thanks mate but I don't want light and sturdy, I want heavy and sturdy and able to do what I outlined. ilu xo

[drummguy731]

Well, it is Yamaha's heaviest stand and they've got one with a counter weight, that one's really sturdy. MD took a 22" china and thrashed the one without a counter weight at every angle with the stand fully extended and it didn't tip, fall, or collapse. Just to let you know, cheers!

[Aaron]

I'll check it out mate, cheers. I'm not a fan of Yamaha hardware normally, but for you.. :)

[drummguy731]

:lol: Just a thought dude! I heard that Pearl's hardware is EXTREMELY sturdy, so you might wanna check that out as well.

[Fuzzy]

Pearl hardware is bichin', as is upper end DW but that's not soft on the wallet. May I suggest a yard gnome?

[-TGP-]

Definatly Yamaha, so sick.

[Panopticon]

Well, it is Yamaha's heaviest stand and they've got one with a counter weight, that one's really sturdy. MD took a 22" china and thrashed the one without a counter weight at every angle with the stand fully extended and it didn't tip, fall, or collapse. Just to let you know, cheers!

I saw that article.

Yeah...the yammie hardware owns. Especially the 900 stuff.

I have 2 stands. One has a 20" ride, 14" tom, 19" crash, and a 10" splash and it's sturdy as hell.

Basically what you need is something with a really wide bass...which is just what the yamaha has.

[Aaron]

A boom that'll put a 22" heavy-weight ride over a bass drum at a height of 24 inches... boom 16 inch away from it's base and still support the cymbal but stay low

Key words is in bold. I don't want to put a bunch of stuff on it at once ETP2.

[Panopticon]

i know that...i was just stating how sturdy it is. I can take a picture of the stand holding a 20" heavy ride far out and low. I can also stack my other ride on top for extra weight if you'd like.

[Aaron]

EDETED: SURE! Didn't mean to come across snappy :).
What's the lowest it can go whilst setup?

[Panopticon]

oh...i sorta did it anyway:p

Heres the stand holding 2 rides (20" K heavy ride, and 20" AA Medium Ride) over a 22" bass drum for reference.

NOTE: The stand held the 20" K heavy by itself between the legs without problem (no wobble what-so-ever) so i'm sure it could handle your 22.

Granted there is a little bit of wobble in the arm itself but with all that weight stretched that far out, what do you expect?

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u143/enemytopublic2/102_4758.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u143/enemytopublic2/102_4759.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u143/enemytopublic2/102_4760.jpg

[Aaron]

Cheers bud! So is that the Yamaha 900?
I want to have my 22" K Heavy about 65% over my bass
so I can have a 20" K in reaching distance above that,
so i want the 22" at about 24" above floor
and 20" about 28" above floor

like this:



http://a449.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/127/l_466aa44cdab07f4b605392dc762b3330.png

hehe, and the other cymbals'll be 16" K Custom and 13" K/Zs. :cool:

[Panopticon]

Yamaha CS945

[santi3hg]

I would urge a counter weight either way with the yammy or pearl.

Both are extremely sturdy however.

[Chippy569]

scour eBay for some old Dixon stands -- some really old ones, like 70's metal ones. Those had "extendible" booms with big counterweights.


Alternatively, an older Tama Titan, the ones with a leg that "tips" inwards, could help you get in a little closer. Dunno if those go "low" enough though.

kinda like this:
http://www.onstage.metallus.it/FotoProdotto/1506.jpg

[maniac0796]

Stilt....

Tama Roadpro Boom...

28.6mm Diameter Base Section Tubing
Boom Arm Length : 580mm (22-3/4")
Double Braced Leg

That's more then enough innit. Comes with a counter weight aswell. Does boom and straight stand conversion, and gearless tilters.

HC74BWN Roadpro Boom Cymbal Stand

http://www.tamadrum.co.jp/world/products/hardware/hc_stand/hc74bwn/images/image.gif

[ant_182]

Stilt....

Tama Roadpro Boom...

28.6mm Diameter Base Section Tubing
Boom Arm Length : 580mm (22-3/4")
Double Braced Leg

That's more then enough innit. Comes with a counter weight aswell. Does boom and straight stand conversion, and gearless tilters.

HC74BWN Roadpro Boom Cymbal Stand

http://www.tamadrum.co.jp/world/products/hardware/hc_stand/hc74bwn/images/image.gif


FINALLY!!!!

+rep

[the_pure_drummer]

roadpro is the ****!

[ant_182]

pure unblock me on msn!

[Aaron]

scour eBay for some old Dixon stands -- some really old ones, like 70's metal ones. Those had "extendible" booms with big counterweights.
That's what I had untill recently.

[fishbulb]

Wait, so nobody said Roadpro until Maniac did? I figured that you checked Roadpro and that it didn't suit your needs. That was the first thing i thought of.

Good luck figuring this out aaron.

[oliv_da_skinmasher]

Yamaha 850 boom stands rock. I own them. Mine is supporting a 24" ride no problem

[maniac0796]

Wow, I'm amazed that Yamaha stand at the top of the page didn't have a knurled boom arm.

Tut tut.

[Chippy569]

That's what I had untill recently.
hmm. serious? the one I borrowed, the boom arm must have been like 1" diameter.


here, you can see it with the china on the far left of the photo:
http://www.inkinc.hostedz.com/images/drums/Stagestar/Front/Front1.jpg

here's another look...
http://www.inkinc.hostedz.com/images/drums/Stagestar/Right/Right5.jpg

and here's the boom extension i was talking about...
http://www.inkinc.hostedz.com/images/drums/Stagestar/Right/Right4.jpg

[drummguy731]

I'm replacing all my stands with Yammie 900's, can't wait!

[Panopticon]

Wow, I'm amazed that Yamaha stand at the top of the page didn't have a knurled boom arm.

Tut tut.

You don't need a knurled boom arm if it has a memory lock:rolleyes:

[maniac0796]

Erm, yes you do.

Because the memory lock can still slip. And it makes mounting stuff off the boom arm a bitch.

[Panopticon]

1. Why the hell would you mount something off the boom arm?
2. no...it can't slip. Even if the mem lock wasn't on, the boom arm doesnt slip.

[maniac0796]

I've mounted my cowbell and another boom off my boom arm...

And it might not slip for you, but it still can, and therefore is a design flaw.

[Panopticon]

I've mounted my cowbell and another boom off my boom arm...

And it might not slip for you, but it still can, and therefore is a design flaw.

lol why don't you take a look at the boom stand in person before you talk about it.

The ONLY way it will slip is if the screw holding it in place AND the mem-lock, are not tightened. And if both of those are not tightened, you deserve it if it slips.

Even if you don't tighten the screw holding the boom arm in place, and the mem-lock is tightened, it still will not slip unless the boom arm is angled downwards.

[ant_182]

So we agree.... ROADPRO FTW!!!!

[Aaron]

Following discussions with Damo and his cat I'm looking into Sonor 600 and 400s. Thanks guys. All suggestions have been noted and will be researched.

p.s. you need to meet his cat, it's a wealth of knowledge regarding drums. more a groove than chop player though.

[fishbulb]

Following discussions with Damo and his cat I'm looking into Sonor 600 and 400s. Thanks guys. All suggestions have been noted and will be researched.

Haha damo, so typical.

[White Riot!]

I've mounted my cowbell and another boom off my boom arm...

And it might not slip for you, but it still can, and therefore is a design flaw.

You are the master of slippage , oh great incompetent one!

[Panopticon]

Following discussions with Damo and his cat I'm looking into Sonor 600 and 400s. Thanks guys. All suggestions have been noted and will be researched.

p.s. you need to meet his cat, it's a wealth of knowledge regarding drums. more a groove than chop player though.

Sonor 600 and 400 series are also very good stands. My only beef with them is that they are a bit heavier and a bit more expensive (where i'm from anyway). Still EXCELLENT stands though.

[Aaron]

Kit won't be gigged so weight ain't an issue.

[Drum Phil]

IIRC: The BC-2000 has a max boom length of around 30 inches or so.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/rancid_punk/14-01-07008.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/rancid_punk/Kit264.jpg

[maniac0796]

The Pearl hardware scares me. That stuff is seriously good.

[Aaron]

Phil? hahah. That's nuts.

[Drum Phil]

I reckon i could probably have got it higher too.

So i think it should be up to the job ;)

[Zildjian]

my Tama roadpro titan could go higher than that Phil.

[Drum Phil]

Bollocks could it.