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Drum Phil
06-26-2007, 01:30 PM
MXDP Member Interview #3: Billdrum

Phil: Alright then, so we'll start with the usual stuff. Who are you and how old?

Bill: Bill, and I'm an elder statesman at 40 years old

Phil: You're quite a bit older than most of the members, but how long have you been playing now?

Bill: I'm not the oldest though! Been playing since 4th grade (10 years old or so), so 30 years. Started out on a pad with rudiments, etc.

I'm so old, I started out with trad grip. You don't see that much anymore.

Phil: That’s quite a while. Do you remember who or what exactly got you started?

Bill: My family is very musical, but no-one played drums. I just thought it sounded like a good idea.

...and my memory's not gone yet, lol.

Phil: Not long now though eh. We all know you use a custom kit but for those who don’t know the specs of it, what gear do you use?

Bill: Conaway, maple shells. 22x17 kick, 12x9, 14x12, 15x13 toms (all hanging). Snares vary. I have 6.5x14 chromium Mapex, 12x5 custom maple popcorn (I built), 6.5x14 brass that I built, and a 5x15 Ludwig metal snare that I refurbished completely.

Phil: And cymbals?

Bill: Zildjian 20" K Heavy ride, Zildjian 16" crash (older), Zildjian 18"crash (older), Zildjian 14" hats (older), Wuhan 18" China w/rivets, Zildjian A 10"splash, Wuhan 8 & 10" splashes. I have a 15" K Dark crash with a crack also that still sounds fine, but I don't use it much because the crack will get worse.

I also own lots of percussion stuff like triangles, a tambourine (expensive Grover), a vibraslap, 3 Pearl clave blocks, a conga, a set of bells, numerous cowbells, maracas, woodblocks, claves, etc.

And a set of 6 and 8" concert toms

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y38/bmachold/Band06007.jpg

Phil: That’s quite a lot of percussion, have you ever used it all in one rig?

Bill: Not all at once. I used to play a lot of shows, so the small "toys" were necessary. I even have slide whistles, bird whistles, and stuff like that.

I have a Roland SPD11 also.

Phil: Whistles? I guess you didn’t use them much whilst incorporating the actual kit?

Bill: Not really. When you play shows, you usually use a small kit with lots of percussion incorporated in, xylophone or bells, timpani, etc. too. You try to set it up so it’s all reachable from one stool.

Phil: I don’t know about you but whenever i've played a show, i’ve always been tempted to take a bigger kit for some reason.
Bill: Depends on the show........some of them are just boom-chick-boom-chick most of the time, with some timpani hits and xylo licks here and there.

You have to play to the situation.

Phil: True that. So, while we're on the subject, do you still do much gigging?

Bill: I don't play shows much anymore....got sick of them. I play in a classic rock cover band that plays quite a bit, a full jazz ensemble that plays usually once or twice a month, a symphony orchestra, and any other gigs I can pick up.

Phil: That’s pretty cool. Any tips for the budding giggers out there?

Bill: The more styles and situations you can make yourself comfortable with, the more you can play. If you're new to an area, don't turn anything down because you never know what it will lead to, or who you can impress. Don't TRY to impress, just play what fits, play it well, and groove.

I guess the best advice is......LISTEN.

Phil: True in all aspects of drumming really. Speaking of which, what would you say is your favourite aspect of the instrument?

Bill: Which instrument? Lol. I always loved timpani and rudimental snare drumming in high school. In college I really got into the marimba and drum set (jazz specifically). Later I really got into Latin and ethnic styles on the drum set. So I have a lot of different experiences and tastes, all of which help shape my playing.

Phil: I guess my favourite thing now is to lay down a great feeling groove with other great musicians, no matter what the style.

Bill: Latin stuff, definitely. It often takes an advanced level of coordination, and you still have to make it groove.

Phil: Which goes to prove drumming's not all about knowing where to put your sticks?

Bill: Right! While it’s important, it’s not everything.

Phil: Now, a lot of younger members tend to be obsessed with custom drums. I asked Chippy the same question i'm about to ask you so we'll see how the answer compares. What made you go with Conaway drums?

Bill: First of all, I researched the company and found a lot of people were very happy with his product and workmanship. Secondly, he is affordable. Third, I just really felt like what I wanted in a kit didn't come in a standard factory configuration and that I could meet my desires better if I had them made.

Phil: How long ago did you purchase your kit?

Bill: March 2005....about the time I joined this forum.

Phil: And have there been any problems with it as its aged?

Bill: None...I love it.

Phil: Now, earlier you mentioned rudimental snare drumming, did you start with this or was it something you tried out later?

Bill: Started learning rudiments at an early age. Studied out of the Wilcoxin books. Our high school had a really good marching band program, so that all fed into it.

Phil: And how would you say that helped with the set?

Bill: The more you can do with your hands and your chops, the more you can play any percussion instrument. You just have to apply it to the kit. Many accent patterns and rhythms you learn in marching band make great fills when orchestrated on a drum set.


Cont...

Drum Phil
06-26-2007, 01:45 PM
Phil:How much would you say drumming itself has changed in the three decades you've been playing? We all know equipment has changed drastically but not many seem to realise the techniques must have changed

Bill: Its funny.....when I learned how to do flams, for example, we had to swing the arms up in the air....sort of a Moeller technique I guess... there was a lot more arm motion involved. Now it’s more wrist. Also, I learned traditional, but the entire drum corps were doing matched because it looked cool. Now everyone learns matched as a youngster, but the corps do traditional because it looks cool!

Phil: A weird turn of events. I gotta say I do try to learn both trad and matched as well as closed and open handed. What do you think the chances of people starting on open handed are now that it’s beginning to catch on?

Bill: Maybe some. I try to have my students play exercises both ways so that they have flexibility. I personally don't like to play open-handed though. That's probably just because I always have played cross and that's what I am comfortable with. I feel like I lose some feel when I play open-handed.

Phil: That and it’s probably difficult to break a 30 year habit like that.

Bill: Right.

Phil: So, who would you say has been the biggest influence on your drumming?

Bill: Wow, so many to choose from. My high school band director was a percussionist who graduated from Eastman. He helped me more than anyone. We also had a marching percussion instructor who came in during marching season who taught me a lot. As far as idols........Dave Weckl (later on), Neil Peart, Peter Criss (I know he wasn't that great of a drummer, but he really made me want to play the drums)

Jeff Porcaro, Buddy Rich, Steve Gadd

Phil: Well I reckon there’s more than enough to keep people interested for a while. Any last words or quotes before we finish up?

Bill: Just want to say I think the forums are headed in the right direction again, and hope everyone continues to help make it a good place to share & learn! Thanks!

MeaninglessPhoto
06-26-2007, 01:51 PM
That was a great read. I never knew that much about you Bill. And ive loved your kit for a long time. GREAT finish.

Berk
06-26-2007, 01:52 PM
K Heavy Rides ftw!

Retarded Chipple
06-26-2007, 01:53 PM
Cool!

Twas interesting.


I'm assuming you used to take lessons Bill?

billdrum
06-26-2007, 02:12 PM
Not as much as you may think.....off and on when I was young with a guy who was very jazz oriented. And alot of study with my HS band director mentioned in the interview. I really didn't study drumset as much as snare drum, timpani, and mallets. I just applied what I knew and what I listened to to the set.

The Chemist
06-26-2007, 02:21 PM
Wicked. Bill is quite interesting.

Talos
06-26-2007, 02:24 PM
Nice one guys, it always good to find out what the mods are really like. Id love to see one with Damo in it though.

Hmm, so whos next Phil? me?

the_pure_drummer
06-26-2007, 02:28 PM
Interesting to say the least.

Well done phil and bill lol :)

Keep up the good work guys.

Drum Phil
06-26-2007, 02:36 PM
No problem guys. Next ones probably TTTSNB.

ludvista29
06-26-2007, 04:38 PM
Great interview!
Can I PLEASE go after TTTSNB
/puppy eyes

Drum Phil
06-26-2007, 04:44 PM
Depends if the people are interested or not.

So far the interviewed have been interesting/major members of the community here.

ludvista29
06-26-2007, 04:50 PM
Lol I'm not interesting?

We_Love_Lime
06-26-2007, 05:14 PM
You and your 2,265 post count.

Good interview Phil.
I appreciate the effort you put into making it happen.

Chippy569
06-26-2007, 05:44 PM
great interview phil and great work bill! good show.

just thought I'd add (fyi) last i heard Mr. Conaway is no longer taking orders. Not sure why.

Win A Rabbit
06-26-2007, 06:20 PM
I have to be the first to say...

Drumphil and Bumdrill. LOL!!!!!!!!!

billdrum
06-26-2007, 06:34 PM
Thanks Win. :rolleyes: Conaway hasn't been taking orders for a while now. His website was even down a few months ago, but was back on line again soon after. I don't know what the scoop is.....he either got too busy, or burned out. I'm thinking of having him make a 10" tom to add to my kit, so I'll contact him soon and see what's up.

static
06-26-2007, 06:44 PM
Good read.

CombatWombat3
06-26-2007, 06:54 PM
Great interview! It's good to see some truly veteran players on here. Can you maybe tell a little more about your gigging experience?

Great interviews so far Drum Phil. I wouldn't mind being interviewed. I don't post as much as I used to, but I've been on here for a long time and still post a fair amount.

drummguy731
06-26-2007, 11:24 PM
Sweet interview, I'm glad I read it. Have you always lived in Illinois Bill?

billdrum
06-26-2007, 11:28 PM
For the last 17 years. Before that, Akron Ohio. I grew up in upstate NY near Syracuse.

drummguy731
06-26-2007, 11:34 PM
Ohh, that's cool. Some of my family is from Long Island! And my dad's family is in Ohio, what a coincidence. I might as well answer here, Peggy and I are going to begin lessons next week, starting with mallet percussion and then going into orchestral percussion. I'll mention you too see if she remembers you!

billdrum
06-26-2007, 11:39 PM
Nice....Its been years since I've seen her, but I remember her as very easy to get along with, and very knowledgeable. She'll help you alot.

drummguy731
06-26-2007, 11:42 PM
O yeah, she's a very cool person. I'm actually helping her with the Fine Arts program over at Rolling Acres. I originally signed up for the Jazz band only, but we talked and she told me that the advanced highschool band had no percussionists! So I told her I'd help with that, then she asked me to help with the younger group because the percussionists couldn't even play It's a Grand Old Flag. So now I'm helping with all three bands, oye!

MeaninglessPhoto
06-26-2007, 11:54 PM
Bill, I dont wanna steal your thread dude, but Phil, do you know what the list is for future interviews?

Drum Phil
06-27-2007, 05:33 AM
TTTSNB.

Thats it so far.

dairyairman
06-27-2007, 01:27 PM
bill, you mentioned you used "play shows" with all the extra percussion. what do you mean by that? are you talking about vaudeville or something?

Zildjian
06-27-2007, 03:18 PM
What I think when I see Billdrum- good drummer (06(?) drum off, holy crap), Good guy, and sabres fan :)

Retarded Chipple
06-27-2007, 04:50 PM
You planning on getting any video up soon Bill?

I've heard one bit of audio back in the user solo contest but would be nice to see some vid too :)

billdrum
06-27-2007, 05:13 PM
I've been thinking about a couple of video lessons. I just need to find the time to get everything planned & produced.

By shows, I mean musicals. I was the house drummer for an off-Broadway type theatre in upstate NY for several years, as well as playing for the local theatre group. For a period of several years, I was playing 6 or 7 musicals per year. Everything from Carousel & Annie Get Your Gun to JC Superstar and everything in between. You kind of burn out on it though, and now the thought of playing a musical doesn't do anything for me. Plus the theatre groups where I live now just don't pay well.

And thank you, Zildjian....very kind words indeed!

oliv_da_skinmasher
06-27-2007, 06:36 PM
Pretty cool man. My old teacher plays musicals when they come into town

White
06-27-2007, 07:53 PM
How can I be interviewed? I know there has to be a long waiting list but I'd love to do this.

oliv_da_skinmasher
06-27-2007, 07:58 PM
same lol

static
06-27-2007, 08:03 PM
I've been thinking about a couple of video lessons. I just need to find the time to get everything planned & produced.

By shows, I mean musicals. I was the house drummer for an off-Broadway type theatre in upstate NY for several years, as well as playing for the local theatre group. For a period of several years, I was playing 6 or 7 musicals per year. Everything from Carousel & Annie Get Your Gun to JC Superstar and everything in between. You kind of burn out on it though, and now the thought of playing a musical doesn't do anything for me. Plus the theatre groups where I live now just don't pay well.

And thank you, Zildjian....very kind words indeed!

You've done JCS?!

I'm unimaginably jealous. I drummed/did lights for that last year for my high school. My favorite musical ever.

oliv_da_skinmasher
06-27-2007, 08:06 PM
It can be quite amazing. I had a version somewhere with Ian Gillan playing jesus. Was great.

dairyairman
06-27-2007, 11:10 PM
By shows, I mean musicals. I was the house drummer for an off-Broadway type theatre in upstate NY for several years, as well as playing for the local theatre group. For a period of several years, I was playing 6 or 7 musicals per year. Everything from Carousel & Annie Get Your Gun to JC Superstar and everything in between. You kind of burn out on it though, and now the thought of playing a musical doesn't do anything for me. Plus the theatre groups where I live now just don't pay well.


very impressive! that adds up to a whole lot of drumming!

jiashen
06-28-2007, 08:16 AM
haha today I read in a music library this book that was published in 1955. They had a picture of the drumset which they termed double drum something (can't remember). There was an illustration and it was the coolest thing ever man: one bass drum, a snare, a very small cymbal that kinda looked like a small splash, and this weird extension half-way across the face of the bass drum that looked like some muffler of sorts.

I watched Steve Smith's history of the US beat and all, but to see it all from a primary source is pretty damn mind-blowing.

Little Android Man
06-28-2007, 12:27 PM
great read, great job Bill and Phil.

Drum Phil
06-28-2007, 12:30 PM
Cheers :)

A Dead Modernist
06-28-2007, 02:03 PM
We should make a thread were people post possible question that can be asked in the interview. Because no offense, but those questions aren't very insightful. I appreciate the effort your making though. Just a suggestion.

Drum Phil
06-28-2007, 02:04 PM
I made one before the first interview.

Everyone made retarded comments.

EDIT: But i'd be happy to hear your suggestions.

A Dead Modernist
06-28-2007, 02:06 PM
nvm then

fishbulb
06-29-2007, 08:44 PM
Josiah should definitely be interviewed. Hopefully he'll cooperate though.

Mr Pink
06-30-2007, 10:55 AM
Josiah should definitely be interviewed. Hopefully he'll cooperate though.

Interview with Josiah....

So Josiah, what advice do you have for young drummers?

You are all a bunch of children...you are so stupid...do what I say...those are not my toes, graduate of PIT.....ha ha ha I owned you....snowboard with Heff.....monkey monkey monkey....stop being a retard...

While he may be a great interview (he always has the CORRECT answer BTW) is there anything we already don't know about the guy? It would test your interviewing skills for sure.
He is misunderstood so this might be a good interview, seeing his fluffy with underbelly and all.......:thumb:

CombatWombat3
06-30-2007, 11:58 AM
You've done JCS?!

I'm unimaginably jealous. I drummed/did lights for that last year for my high school. My favorite musical ever.

JCS is incredible drumming-wise, probably the most fun/exhilarating show to drum to. We did that show a couple, years ago. I did light design and operating. The bass part on that is a wee bit challenging though. Our bassist's fingers kept bleeding. Simon Zealotes is such a fun song to play on drums.

static
06-30-2007, 12:10 PM
I love Superstar and the end of The Last Supper.

billdrum
06-30-2007, 04:10 PM
Superstar has been my favorite musical to play by far. We had a great band for that too.

keaton_86
07-02-2007, 05:36 AM
I played superstar when i was 15. **** it was awesome. It improved me so much on different time sigs. Hell, it pretty much taught me 7/4 and 5/4

Mr Pink
07-02-2007, 07:14 AM
I played superstar when i was 15. **** it was awesome. It improved me so much on different time sigs. Hell, it pretty much taught me 7/4 and 5/4

I'm a HAIR guy myself........

Charlie Daniels
07-02-2007, 07:42 AM
Guys and Dolls ftw >_>

Seafroggys
07-02-2007, 12:17 PM
JC Superstar is awesome.

I've been really wanting to see the Ian Gillian version.

Harrow
07-03-2007, 04:39 PM
Josiah should definitely be interviewed. Hopefully he'll cooperate though.



Lol!


Oh hi! :wave:

Damo
07-07-2007, 11:08 PM
Id love to see one with Damo in it though.
Thanks! Id love the opportunity!

Drum Phil
07-10-2007, 07:27 AM
Well damo, if you have MSN i'd be happy to oblige.