global warming

[SkaRobotArmy]

my friend sent me this video, its not really a ground breaking though, but a very logical one at any rate...

http://www.break.com/index/tough-to-argue.html

thats pretty much how i look at it, even if its not a problem - the pollution and energy being wasted is still a threat and is unnacceptable. Either way, something should be done, and if it happens anyway because thats just what nature had in store, well hey we tried. and if doesn't happen - then we're still living in a better, cleaner (hopefully) world.

so uh, yea - debate. and don't be a dick.

[AIRIC]

I watched this yesterday and frankly I agree with it.

I honestly think everyone should watch this movie whether you agree with global warming or not. Just watch it before your lame responses.

[Rise Me Up]

I'd watch it but my soundcard is broken.

[Anxious]

This makes sense but its possibly based upon a fallacy. He is looking at it through pure statistics, assuming that there is an equal amount of facts on each side of the global warming case that contradict each other. I think that the truth is out there, but it is obscured in scare tactics rhetoric instead of presented objectively. I think we would all do better to perhaps subsidize scientists ( though I don't like the idea of government subsides too much) to work harder and longer at the problem as well as do our own investigating and not take "information" presented to us that uses scare tactics without a big grain of salt.. Of course at the time time, we should be doing the actions in column A row A but to a greater or lesser extent as shown by the objective scientific results.

[Eliminator]

global warming was caused by cows shitting its pure scientific fact

[Anxious]

grate

[Flagjacket]

They say global warming is caused by the ozone layer depleting, but isn't it suspicious that we can't even see the ozone layer?

[Eliminator]

we all have skin cancer

[IgniteYourAvail]

yes

[AIRIC]

Hmm Billy lucky for you. Its debateable whether your dick is tangable but you can piss out of it so I guess its there.

[gregulus]

They say global warming is caused by the ozone layer depleting, but isn't it suspicious that we can't even see the ozone layer?

Actually, they say it's caused by excessive emission of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere. Greenhouse gases retain the infrared wavelengths being reflected back into space. Thus, the more greenhouse gases there are in the atmosphere, the more energy is retained, the warmer the earth becomes.

[Anxious]

I think he was joking. I hope he was joking.

[IgniteYourAvail]

Hmm Billy lucky for you. Its debateable whether your dick is tangable but you can piss out of it so I guess its there.

Yeah right, all the ladies have seen it so it's there.

They weren't sucking the air, Airhead Airic. (Air x3 COMBO)

[Excursions]

global warming is exagerated

[Anxious]

They weren't sucking the air, Airhead Airic. (Air x3 COMBO)

lvl 3 achieved

[SkaRobotArmy]

Actually, they say it's caused by excessive emission of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere. Greenhouse gases retain the infrared wavelengths being reflected back into space. Thus, the more greenhouse gases there are in the atmosphere, the more energy is retained, the warmer the earth becomes.

yea, thats how it works.

[descendents1]

It's okay, the majority of scientists are just joking with the world. This is all a big joke and we'll get a laugh about it sometime in the near future. Crazy scientists in their labs and their majority consensus.

Check out this article:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17997788/site/newsweek/

That delivers a decent argument about global warming being overblown.

That said, I strongly believe that we are just asking to be screwed over with our arrogant lives in America. Do a lot of research and you'll begin to understand that the debates are political, but the answer is found in the consensus of the scientific community. I'm sick of doing research for this. A few all nighters and 2 papers later and I've arrived at the conclusion that this world is screwed if it resists a healthy change. There's a lot of stuff out there. You'll enjoy finding stuff out on your own.

[iam2000pounds]

It's okay, the majority of scientists are just joking with the world. This is all a big joke and we'll get a laugh about it sometime in the near future. Crazy scientists in their labs and their majority consensus.

Check out this article:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17997788/site/newsweek/

That delivers a decent argument about global warming being overblown.

That said, I strongly believe that we are just asking to be screwed over with our arrogant lives in America. Do a lot of research and you'll begin to understand that the debates are political, but the answer is found in the consensus of the scientific community. I'm sick of doing research for this. A few all nighters and 2 papers later and I've arrived at the conclusion that this world is screwed if it resists a healthy change. There's a lot of stuff out there. You'll enjoy finding stuff out on your own.

lol. You're intense!

[Flagjacket]

It's okay, the majority of scientists are just joking with the world. This is all a big joke and we'll get a laugh about it sometime in the near future. Crazy scientists in their labs and their majority consensus.

Check out this article:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17997788/site/newsweek/

That delivers a decent argument about global warming being overblown.

That said, I strongly believe that we are just asking to be screwed over with our arrogant lives in America. Do a lot of research and you'll begin to understand that the debates are political, but the answer is found in the consensus of the scientific community. I'm sick of doing research for this. A few all nighters and 2 papers later and I've arrived at the conclusion that this world is screwed if it resists a healthy change. There's a lot of stuff out there. You'll enjoy finding stuff out on your own.
Wait.... is he arguing FOR global warming, AGAINST global warming or does he just hate America?

[yourstruly]

We can't SEE God, does that mean he's not there? Does something have to be tangible to exist?Couldn't you think of a better example?, like oxygen or wind?:confused:

[AIRIC]

That makes sense.

Honestly, why would we resist a healthy change?

[Anxious]

Because its not evident enough to most people to the point that they want to change their entire life style for.

[Liebensaft]

No, we won't....change our lifestyyyyyyllllle, eeeeeven to save our liiiiiives.

Human power ftw.

[AIRIC]

Because its not evident enough to most people to the point that they want to change their entire life style for.

I know that is why people resist this change. I guess I meant I wonder why people are so stupid.

[Anxious]

Well I think there is a lot of misinformation going around and people should be skeptical.

[Liebensaft]

I think it's just retarded to believe we can continue to live the same way we always have, forever. Fossil fuels are limited. Technology is making widespread, drastic changes possible. It's comparable, although not entirely the same as, people resisting the proliferation of automobiles, opting to keep using horse-drawn carriages....and (hypothetically) those horses are endangered.

[Anxious]

True. Especially when countries like China are trying to emulate us. Theres barely enough room for just us to live like this. Nature and economics will work things out though.

[SkaRobotArmy]

there was an article in a news paper a few months back about the rate of economic growth being experienced in China right now. Something a long the lines of a new coal fired power plant being built every week. It said that even if Canada cut its GHG (greenhouse gas) emissions to ZERO and was completely green, that China would pick up our slack in 6 months. Even when proper emissions equipment is given to them by the UN, it is rarely installed or operated. I don't recall the exact numbers, but i believe the average GDP per capita that must be reached before a country begins to reduce its sulphur dioxide is something $7000 USD and $15000 USD before they begin to reduce their GHG, China is still a very long way off of this.

[Flagjacket]

My mom is convinced one day I will move to China to become a rich businessman but I don't want to.

[Anxious]

Businessman in China? Isn't that an oxymoron?

[gregulus]

Businessman in China? Isn't that an oxymoron?

not at all. there's a lot of money for businessmen who speak chinese.

[Anxious]

In communist China, business runs you.

[cobert]

Global warming is so punk.

[Permanent Solution]

While I am very environmentally aware and believe we should be making changes to be more environmentally sound, that video hardly presents a compelling argument.

Everyone knows the easiest way out of an economic depression is a war. So it's hard to say an economic depression would not have similar effects as predicted in the other column.

[Flagjacket]

In communist China, business runs you.

Except China is barely a communist nation anymore. It's nothing like it was 50, even as recently as 10 years ago.

[Liebensaft]

not at all. there's a lot of money for businessmen who speak chinese.

You keep responding seriously to not-so-serious posts.

[Anxious]

Except China is barely a communist nation anymore. It's nothing like it was 50, even as recently as 10 years ago.

I suppose so.

[cobert]

I back this guys school of thought though, Ive been saying this for some time.