Metalcore

[The Feeding]

i tried to download some Botch and mediafire is being a ****

[Si1v3RfaNg]

Oh no Mappy, Skycamefalling is THE best metalcore band known to man, and you know it.

[HighandDriving]

STFU, what the fuc k do you know.

[Si1v3RfaNg]

Everything.

[Txus]

:lol:

[thomasj12e34]

Oh no Mappy, Skycamefalling is THE best metalcore band known to man, and you know it.

deadguy is the best, personally

[Si1v3RfaNg]

I'll give them a listen, but I doubt it.

[HighandDriving]

Yo Silverfang how long have you been listening to metalcore for, like 2 months?

[thomasj12e34]

I'll give them a listen, I'm sure they are

corrected

[The Feeding]

it's on like donkey kong, bitch

[Si1v3RfaNg]

I've been listening to metalcore since like.... I was 12 when I first listened to Killswitch, but I started listening to stuff like Converge and Skycamefalling like a years ago.

[hismajestythepope]

Yo Silverfang how long have you been listening to metalcore for, like 2 months?

He came here already listening to some so I'd assume longer than that.

Good one though brah.

[Txus]

With Deadguy I have a problem...I never know which release I like the most. Fixation on a Coworker or Screamin' With The Deadguy Quintet, Work Ethic is really good but my least favorite.

[thomasj12e34]

I've been listening to metalcore since like.... I was 12 when I first listened to Killswitch, but I started listening to stuff like Converge and Skycamefalling like a year ago.

corrected

[hismajestythepope]

I Know Your Tragedy is the only one you didn't mention, and sillily enough my favorite.

[Txus]

I haven't heard that one :(

[hismajestythepope]

It's krieg.

[The Feeding]

been trying to DL some Botch all day and apparantly the internet hates me, anyone have solid links?

[RetiredAt21]

With Deadguy I have a problem...I never know which release I like the most. Fixation on a Coworker or Screamin' With The Deadguy Quintet, Work Ethic is really good but my least favorite.

Fixation is the best.

[SKUDstorm]

Retired can you recc me some good metalcore?
I already listen to Botch and Converge so you don't need to bother mentioning those.

[SlightlyEpic]

been trying to DL some Botch all day and apparantly the internet hates me, anyone have solid links?

Mediafire's been down recently, but I'll up some Botch to my blog once Mediafire is working again.

http://thisisbunnycore.blogspot.com/

/shameless plug

[The Feeding]

okay thanks. Glad to know it wasn't my computer freaking out

[HighandDriving]

No one should be without Botch.

http://angrychairs.blogspot.com/2009/01/botch-discography.html - Rapidshare

http://maroex.blogspot.com/2008/08/botch-discography.html - MediaFire (It's working now)

[The Feeding]

thanks bro, downloading now

[DBlitz]

oh right, i never got around to getting american nervoso

will get that now

[hismajestythepope]

Best one.

[DBlitz]

anthology of dead ends

[hismajestythepope]

I disagree fgt.

[Txus]

I agree with mappy, American has their best songs.

[hismajestythepope]

Yeah! yeah! yeah yeah yeah!

[DBlitz]

only listened to AN once

a couple of minutes ago

and it was 128kbps :(

[HighandDriving]

I think I love all the **** almost equally, although I did come to the conclusion I liked AN more awhile ago.

[RetiredAt21]

Retired can you recc me some good metalcore?
I already listen to Botch and Converge so you don't need to bother mentioning those.

Definitely get some Unbroken, Deadguy is also a must. Also get some Rorschach and Kiss It Goodbye, **** is crucial.

[Aaron]

I need some new recommendations for metalcore. Tech-y metalcore that isn't ****.

[thomasj12e34]

as the sun sets

[RetiredAt21]

as the sun sets

Never considered them metalcore or tech-y, but they ****ing rule.

[thomasj12e34]

probably more grindcore, but they're definitely techy

[RetiredAt21]

I just always felt like if I'm good enough to play a band's songs on the guitar, then they aren't tech.

[SKUDstorm]

Definitely get some Unbroken, Deadguy is also a must. Also get some Rorschach and Kiss It Goodbye, **** is crucial.

thanks man, im in need of more good music.

[The Feeding]

I just always felt like if I'm good enough to play a band's songs on the guitar, then they aren't tech.

interesting way to look at things, whatever works

[hismajestythepope]

I just always felt like if I'm good enough to play a band's songs on the guitar, then they aren't tech.

Hahaha, same here.

[hismajestythepope]

Never considered them metalcore or tech-y, but they ****ing rule.

I'd call them metalcore, but they do have a good bit of grind in their sound, idk, they sound like a really good whitebelt band, and whitebelt always just sounded like metalcore on 10 speed to me.

[The Feeding]

i'm really stoked on the new TDWP

[hismajestythepope]

:lol:

[The Feeding]

make fun all you want, idgaf

[xMalcolmXx]

i just fell in love with gaza again

holy **** **** **** **** **** i don't care where i go when i die is amazing

[The Feeding]

never heard it, maybe i should check it out

[Txus]

yeah, Gaza are pretty good.

[The Feeding]

any specific albums?

[xMalcolmXx]

i don't care where i go when i die

[Si1v3RfaNg]

So guys Unearth... best modern metalcore band? Besides Skycamefalling that is.

[The Feeding]

are you drunk? what do you mean by modern like still making new music?

[Si1v3RfaNg]

No like, not older than 2000.

[xMalcolmXx]

that's kind of tough to answer. i love everything they've done (opposite of december/tear from the red/you come before you > versions and other new stuff though), so i can't really say which album is better than the other. what stuff have you heard by them?

[4yearpro?]

unearth \m/ gonna c em for the fourth time with testament like rly soon

[Si1v3RfaNg]

their soooo epic

[xMalcolmXx]

So guys Unearth... best modern metalcore band? Besides Skycamefalling that is.

nah.

[The Feeding]

The Opposite Of December is goddamn elitery
You Come Before You was amazing
Tear From The Red is hella good

Unearth is good, i dunno about the best

[HighandDriving]

So guys Unearth... best modern metalcore band? Besides Skycamefalling that is.

Again, another reason why we shouldn't remotely take Silverfang serious, even when discussing metalcore.

[The Feeding]

Dead Man In Reno are better than Unearth IMO

[HighandDriving]

Many bands are better than Unearth.

[The Feeding]

silly kids, when will they learn

[Aaron]

I secretly like The Number Twelve Looks Like You. It's like less-faggy Behold The Actopus.

[The Feeding]

I actually openly admit i enjoy them, the new album is damn good

[thomasj12e34]

The Opposite Of December is overrated
You Come Before You was amazing
Tear From The Red is hella good

Unearth is average, not the best

corrected

[The Feeding]

how is that different? i enjoy them, they deff aren't the best

[nevertoolate]

Hey fellas, I have read a few times here that Poison The Well are well respected by most. The couple of times I've heard them I've though meh but idk where would you start with em??

[thomasj12e34]

You Come Before You

[DBlitz]

Opposite of December and You Come Before You

[Txus]

I'd say Opposite of December. That album is ****ing amazing.

[HighandDriving]

I'd say skip em all together.

[The Feeding]

The Opposite Of December & You Come Before You for certain

[nevertoolate]

thnx.
@H&D I didn't like em at first but I thought I'd give em another chance...

[HighandDriving]

Wow I'm surprised you didn't like em at first, there's hope for you after all.

[nevertoolate]

I do what I can.

[thomasj12e34]

I'd say Opposite of December. That album is ****ing amazing.

it gets boring so fast

[xMalcolmXx]

lies

[The Feeding]

listened to it SOO many times, still hasn't for me

[Txus]

it's clearly their best.

[bringonthebreakdown]

it's clearly their best.
this

[nevertoolate]

Also, looking back at the first post, what peeps thoughts on 7A7P and Kiss It Goodbye??
I know I could look myself but it's more fun to promote some posting

[bringonthebreakdown]

Also, looking back at the first post, what peeps thoughts on 7A7P and Kiss It Goodbye??
I know I could look myself but it's more fun to promote some posting

not a huge Kiss it goodbye fan. 7a7p is basically misery signals but more raw and before mis sigs came out so it was pivotal.

[Txus]

Kiss It Goodbye were one of the best metlacore bands ever. She loves me she loves me not is a magnificent release.

7a7p wer epretty good, but nothing outstanding.

[nevertoolate]

Sweet, DL city here we come!!

[DBlitz]

yea both are good

[bringonthebreakdown]

New For Today and new ABR songs sound incredible judging from live videos.

[thomasj12e34]

Also, looking back at the first post, what peeps thoughts on 7A7P and Kiss It Goodbye??
I know I could look myself but it's more fun to promote some posting

both are highly recommended

[HighandDriving]

Yup

[nevertoolate]

To go back a couple pages too, You guys were talking about whether The Secret's Luce Or Disintoxication was better so i got both and I reckon Luce has the edge, the sound and production seems much tighter.

[HighandDriving]

Yup

[nevertoolate]

Yup

Yup

Decisive and to the point.

[bringonthebreakdown]

**** dude. it prevails is so good.

[hismajestythepope]

UGH CANT SOMEBODY MAKE A MAINSTREAM METALCORE THREAD ****

Don't like It Prevails.

[bringonthebreakdown]

UGH CANT SOMEBODY MAKE A MAINSTREAM METALCORE THREAD ****

Don't like It Prevails.

aw why not

[JonG]

needs more AGATG

[Pete]

It Prevails are pretty good

they need to play fast every once in a while though

[The Feeding]

needs more AGATG

true dat

[FreeSmells]

**** dude. it prevails is so good.

I whole-heartedly agree with this.

[HighandDriving]

:wave:

Mathcore(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathcore) is a sub genrish of metalcore, infusing the erratic time signatures from Math-Rock (Don Cab, LITE, Slint, Tera Melos, etc.) into metalcore.

But basically it is just "technical metalcore" in a somewhat similar vein of technical death metal.

So instead of JUN JUN JUN JUN, it's JUNJUN JUJUJUN JUN JUN JUNUJUNUJNUJN JUN.

Mathcore bands include:
Dillinger Escape Plan
Botch (lol)
Fear Before - Art Damage
The Number Twelve Looks Like You
Architects (K?)
The End (Ep's only)
Psyopus
Blah blah

[HighandDriving]

Am I as cool as Mappy now?

Also lol at "But basically it is just "technical metalcore" in a somewhat similar vein of technical death metal."

[hismajestythepope]

oh dear god way over your head

[HighandDriving]

I know.

[Codylicious]

yay Number 12!

[Dimmu Burger]

Effin love mathcore!

[Dimmu Burger]

It Prevails is the ****!

[hismajestythepope]

It Prevails are pretty good

they need to play fast every once in a while though

Hahaahahaha.

Yeah they'd be a little less boring if they were faster imo.

[Dimmu Burger]

Catchy =/= boring IMO

[hismajestythepope]

/stevemode ugh take this to the mainstream metalcore thread

nah, if I found them catchy I wouldn't call the boring.

Bloodsucker Pt. 2 by ACB is my idea of catchy, idk.

[Dimmu Burger]

I still have to get the new ACB.

But yeah we don't need 3 effin metalcore threads dude.

[hismajestythepope]

I know, I'm just making fun of Steve.

[Dimmu Burger]

my bad. sarcasm detector malfunctioning!


I rocked the new Broadcast The Nightmare on the way to work. I like it!

[thomasj12e34]

loving see you next tuesday right now

[Against Miik!]

I wouldn't say I enjoy mathcore as a genre overall, but I do like Fear Before and Architects.

edit: o yeah and The Fall of Troy and Norma Jean. They are both kinda mathcorey? no?

[HighandDriving]

loving see you next tuesday right now

Wtf they aren`t mathcore.

[thomasj12e34]

lots of mathcore elements, but found a better place to talk about them

[hismajestythepope]

Wtf they aren`t mathcore.

thats because mathcore doesnt exist

[imperialblackness]

I like Daughters

[thomasj12e34]

you should check out as the sun sets

[imperialblackness]

I like them too

[thomasj12e34]

so much better than daughters

[imperialblackness]

eh idk, Daughters is pretty cool imo

[C.O.A.]

eh idk, Daughters is pretty cool imo
homo.

as the sun sets is a gazillion times better.

[thomasj12e34]

homo.

as the sun sets is a gazillion times better.

what he said

[easylee]

jun + jun = weeeeee

[imperialblackness]

homo.

as the sun sets is a gazillion times better.

shut up you've only listened to both bands like twice

[HighandDriving]

lots of mathcore elements, but found a better place to talk about them

Listen, don`t bring you mediocre white belt bands into my elite mathcore thread.

And yes As The Sun Sets is much better than Daughters, anyone who disagrees is a fag.

[jrowa001]

thread needs some Exotic Animal Petting Zoo and The Arusha Accord

[nevertoolate]

Architects rule the roost here.

[The Feeding]

Dillinger, especially the earlier albums are mad elite

[thomasj12e34]

i like miss machine the most

[HighandDriving]

thread needs some Exotic Animal Petting Zoo and The Arusha Accord

EAPZ are pretty gay but TAA are pretty sick.

[nevertoolate]

heard about TAA a few times now, who are the like?? (if anyone at all)

[HighandDriving]

Sikth and PTH are the best comparisons I could throw at cha.

[jrowa001]

i really dont see whats gay about EAPZ beside their name.

yeah The Arusha Accord are compared to SikTh a lot but not as crazy

[HighandDriving]

They are just lame.

[4yearpro?]

http://www.myspace.com/thumprocks

[Txus]

they are pretty good tbh

one of the few bands within this **** subgenre thats worthy anytime.

[HighandDriving]

Wow I`m surprised you like that garbage.

[Txus]

yeah, i do.

I haven't listen to Dillinger in so ****ing long, I need some Miss Machine

[jrowa001]

txus knows whats up

[witchxrapist]

Listened to a song off the new Devil Wear's Prada

Acacia Strain Parts don't fit.

Screamer does not sound like that live, whatsoever.

Holy **** autotune on the singing.

[nevertoolate]

Worth a listen tho?

[witchxrapist]

lol no

[nevertoolate]

you have a pretty strict metal diet dont you

[witchxrapist]

oh totally

[nevertoolate]

fair nuff.

[witchxrapist]

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/video/video.php?v=74651594262&ref=nf

I'm the 6'5" dude hardcore dancing lol.

And nazi soluting at the end.

[JonG]

This video either has been removed from Facebook or is not visible due to privacy settings.

[witchxrapist]

Yeah set it to private woops.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=751002404&ref=name#/video/video.php?v=74651594262&subj=751002404

does this work?

[Luc214]

it does not

[HighandDriving]

More ppl here need to listen to Burnt By The Sun, especially their album Soundtrack to the Personal Revolution.

[HighandDriving]

Miss Machine is good but CI is still better.

[Luc214]

I just came in here to post about them! I'm so excited for their upcoming release!

[HighandDriving]

I can't fuc king wait for the new album.

Should be coming out in a month or so right?

[SlightlyEpic]

EAPZ are pretty gay but TAA are pretty sick.
Exotic Animal Petting zoo are awesome, man.

[The Feeding]

I'm a sucker for Miss Machine

[The Feeding]

heard a lot about them, never actually listened

[HighandDriving]

Download the album I mentioned above, they have slowly become one of my fav metalcore bands.

[The Feeding]

will do, thanx bro

[Sumfarty1]

isnt Protest the Hero mathcore? like especially their earlier albums..

[HighandDriving]

No and the thing is no band is really mathcore.

[bringonthebreakdown]

do you guys consider Sky Eats Airplane to be mathcore? They're fun every now and then but not something I listen to often.

[The Feeding]

I dunno but they are a fun listen.
I love the songs She Is Just a Glitch and Patterns especially

[HighandDriving]

do you guys consider Sky Eats Airplane to be mathcore? They're fun every now and then but not something I listen to often.

GTFO.:smash:

[RetiredAt21]

Been listening to Burnt By The Sun for awhile, not to sound like an elitist.

[thomasj12e34]

theyve been around for a pretty long time

[RetiredAt21]

I don't think I've ever listened to the split with Car Bomb, is it any good?

[witchxrapist]

Car Bomb sucks.

PPhilia opened for them.

[RetiredAt21]

What about the Burnt By The Sun side of the split?

[witchxrapist]

Never heard it idk, just saying Car Bomb sucks.

[RetiredAt21]

Oh, I guess I'll just download it then.

[xMalcolmXx]

new cave in in '09 apparently

[witchxrapist]

It'll just be prog rock, but it'll be good.

Cave-In never fails to deliver the delivery to its utmost deliverance.

[xMalcolmXx]

they have yet to disappoint

[thomasj12e34]

eso charis anyone?

[hismajestythepope]

mad unique son
they have yet to disappoint

definitely

[valeguidilin]

And what about darkest hour?? they are my favourite metalcore bands with heaven shall burn and protest the hero!!! BTBAM is a great band too!!

[nevertoolate]

Just found out that new Zao album "Awake?" is released may 5th. I'm excitement.

[jrowa001]

yeah im hoping its better than their last album which wasnt bad but it couldnt hold my attention

[TimJim]

And what about darkest hour?? they are my favourite metalcore bands with heaven shall burn and protest the hero!!! BTBAM is a great band too!!
noobybooby

but yes they are good

[The Feeding]

heaven shall burn -Antigone was pretty good IMO, Iconoclast was alright but deff not better

[valeguidilin]

Undoing ruin is one of my favorite album ever!!
deliver us is also a great album!

[RetiredAt21]

Ew, Heaven Shall Burn sucks. Way generic riffs/breakdowns.

[HighandDriving]

They try too hard to be epic.

[RetiredAt21]

And brutal.

[bringonthebreakdown]

Endzeit is a sweet song by them though.

[TimJim]

yes.

and their vox are rlly good

[Si1v3RfaNg]

whats a good album by them to start with? antigone or iconoclast? im throroughly enjoying endzeit right now...

[TimJim]

iconoclast and antigone then

[Cocaine]

I agree with Retired. Heaven Shall Burn sucks.

[nevertoolate]

I am seeing Heaven Shall Burn in two weeks time!! Been wondering what they are like live??

[TimJim]

intense

[RetiredAt21]

yes.

and their vox are rlly good

You need to listen to better metalcore, their vocals suck.

[jrowa001]

i dont think Heaven Shall Burn are great but i enjoy them. theyre def not the worst band out there

[RetiredAt21]

i dont think Heaven Shall Burn are great but i enjoy them. theyre def not the worst band out there

No, certainly not the worst but jeez they blow. Everything about just screams "going through the motions" with no real emotion or anything, their songs feel empty.

[jrowa001]

i can see where youre coming from. i dont listen to them often but a few songs from some of their albums is all i really ever listen to at once.

picked me up some Drowningman and Deadguy to see if they truly are elite bands. indeed they are

[RetiredAt21]

Voice Of The Voiceless is one of the most generic metalcore songs I've ever heard, it's right up there with Background Music To Her Awakening.

[DBlitz]

still need to get some drowningman

deadguy is pretty awesome though

[RetiredAt21]

still need to get some drowningman

deadguy is pretty awesome though

Yeah, drowningman is pretty good, and **** yes about Deadguy.

[Lelle]

haha atreyu

[RetiredAt21]

Hahahaha, I remember the good old days of listening to Suicide Notes And Butterfly Kisses. Was pretty fun to play along with on my guitar.

[The Feeding]

wait? you used to listen to Atreyu...i don't believe it

[RetiredAt21]

wait? you used to listen to Atreyu...i don't believe it

Believe it.

[bringonthebreakdown]

atreyu
moar like agayu
amirite lololol

[DBlitz]

ur rite LOL

[Lelle]

i knew i would initiate a meaningful and deep discussion when mentioning atreyu

[RetiredAt21]

Atreyu sucks, though.

[jrowa001]

Fightcast are a better Atreyu and even then theyre still an average band. Atreyu are horrible

[SKUDstorm]

atreyu
moar like agayu
amirite lololol

bringonthebreakdown
moar like bringingthelulz

[Lelle]

atreyu
moar like agayu
amirite lololol

bringonthebreakdown
moar like bringingthelulz

like you'd never heard that one before amirite?

[RetiredAt21]

It's been said many times.

[Lelle]

no ****!?!?

[RetiredAt21]

Yeah ****.

[thomasj12e34]

**** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** ****

[JonG]

Just found out that new Zao album "Awake?" is released may 5th. I'm excitement.

http://www.mediafire.com/?zyjgwczzm5o

[hismajestythepope]

I don't like new Zao at all, tbh.

[RetiredAt21]

New Zao blows.

[Dimmu Burger]

Zao blows. Can't get into them. and I've heard every album.

[jrowa001]

i like the new Zao, not great but better than their last. Funeral of God is a cool album and really the only one of theirs i listen to on a regular basis

[thomasj12e34]

greatest band ever

http://www.myspace.com/rapedbyacowboy

[Aaron]

*Prepares for war*

The new Bring Me The Horizon is good.

[RetiredAt21]

Zao blows. Can't get into them. and I've heard every album.

You don't know what's good.

[BridgeToSolace]

*Prepares for war*

The new Bring Me The Horizon is good.

"new?" You mean the most recent album?

That seems so old to me because although it's decent at first, it DOES NOT hold up to repeated listens.

And I also never liked Zoa. Every track by them sounded like complete **** so I was never able to even pay attention to the writing or whatever. One of those bands that I don't understand how people can enjoy.

[hismajestythepope]

their old stuff is good, its not amazing or anything
*Prepares for war*

The new Bring Me The Horizon is good.

so bad

[HighandDriving]

So who here has listened to the new Chariot.

[Cocaine]

faggots

[hismajestythepope]

Josh's vocals sound awesome as usual, it's kind of boring though.

[HighandDriving]

large bundle of stickss

Ill see you dt one day, when I do its on.

Josh's vocals sound awesome as usual, it's kind of boring though.

Ya the vocals are pretty good, sounds like it shaping up to be better than The Fiancee.

[Cocaine]

Ill see you dt one day, when I do its on.

not into faggots

[RetiredAt21]

The Chariot sucks.

[hismajestythepope]

Ya the vocals are pretty good, sounds like it shaping up to be better than The Fiancee.

Album was garbage.

Better than anything The Eyes Of A Traitor did though.

[RetiredAt21]

Album was garbage.

Better than anything The Eyes Of A Traitor did though.

:lol:

[HighandDriving]

Album was garbage.

Better than anything The Eyes Of A Traitor did though.

But not better than anything Bring On The Horizon did, amirite!

[BridgeToSolace]

So who here has listened to the new Chariot.

They repeat riffs too much. And it's not necessarily the repitition that gets me so much as the fact that they're repeating bad riffs. You can't get into the rhythm of the song because the song has no flow to get in to. Awful.

I guess you could make a case for Chariot doing something a bit more their own than The Eyes Of A Traitor, but Traitor's album is infinitely more listenable than Chariot's. Not not particularly good or anything, but at worst it's just generic. Oh, and their vocalist doesn't fit.

Chariot is objectionable, Eyes Of A Traitor is boring.

[hismajestythepope]

You make long posts about **** way too often.

And you don't argue good points.

First, The Chariot doesn't even have riffs.

Second, The Eyes Of A Traitor is the most God awful band on the planet.

I'm gonna have to say there's nothing outright bad about the new Chariot album, it's just straight up boring.

The last one at least sounded energetic as hell, even if it was terrible.

[nevertoolate]

http://www.mediafire.com/?zyjgwczzm5o

Thanks heaps mate, I just read they copped a bit of a bake by some of the boys, but i'l still scope this new **** out.

[The Feeding]

i like Josh Scogin's vocals, but never got into the chariot

[HighandDriving]

Well than try listening to a band Mappy likes much more.

www.myspace.com/bmth

[RetiredAt21]

Hahaha you guys will never get along.

[Dimmu Burger]

i like Josh Scogin's vocals, but never got into the chariot

Try again! It's good stuff!

[Drunk3nPanda]

i still feel like his place is in Norma Jean

[RetiredAt21]

hahaha funny avatar ahahahah

[Jaundice]

Well than try listening to a band Mappy likes much more.

www.myspace.com/bmthWhat in god's name is this ****?

[RetiredAt21]

Bring Me The Horizon. Band is so ****ing awful.

[Drunk3nPanda]

BMTH are pretty shitty but i find some of the songs to be a fun listen. They are like a much shittier version of architects.

[RetiredAt21]

I hate all of their songs, they are not fun to me.

[hismajestythepope]

Count Your Blessings is a fun listen every now and then, imo.

Great vocals on there.

As for them sounding like a shittier Architects... no... new stuff sounds like a really bad combo of imitating Underoath and Bury Your Dead with terrible terrible voice crack vocals.
Well than try listening to a band Mappy likes much more.

www.myspace.com/bmth

Dude, I'm not into you chill out.

[Si1v3RfaNg]

lol

[hismajestythepope]

H&D: trying as hard as ADB since 2008.

[Jaundice]

lol