Over Crowded Prisons

[Sanjna]

You know this is destiny. Colosseum's of the future. We make 20 prisoners that are there for life and make them fight to the death. The winner gets to go free, all charges dropped. They will make tons of money, it will un-crowd the prisons, and rake in the cash. makes everyone happy.

agree/disagree? Tell me your thoughts.

[Der Übermensch]

Well, I have always wanted Roman Blood Sports to make a come back, and pay-per-view seems the logical way to do that...

I dunno about letting the winner go free... Just commute their sentence to life in prison for a certain number of wins...

[Akira]

A lot of spam in here lately.

[Sanjna]

This isn't spam you jerk Ron


move it to general discussion if this thread isn't good enough for you people

[Mr. Ron]

This isn't spam you jerk Ron


move it to general discussion if this thread isn't good enough for you people
I don't care I just like to neg you.

[Der Übermensch]

It is pretty spammy... Although I am serious that I'd pay to watch real gladiatorial cmobat...

[Mr. Ron]

Same.

[Sanjna]

They used to do it in Rome.

[Dr Hooch]

As the prisons get overcrowded you don't notice the entire country is becoming one big prison

[Reaganista]

wtf is wrong with you people

[Der Übermensch]

You don't like the Romans?
Morituri te salutant

[Reaganista]

of course i don't like the romans what kind of question is that

[Mr. Ron]

Ancient Rome is a very interesting subject.

[Krabsworth]

uncrowd prisons by putting way less people in for stupid **** like marijuana and other drug related shtuff

[Charlie Manson]

TS has a good idea.

[Der Übermensch]

of course i don't like the romans what kind of question is that

:( barbarus... :smoke:

[Charlie Manson]

Barbarus got freed over jesus


that is saying something

[Reaganista]

Ancient Rome is a very interesting subject.
i agree

in the same way the conquest of mexico is interesting

[Der Übermensch]

No, Barabbas got freed instead of Jesus... Barbarus = latin for foreigner or barbarian... (ie uncultured)

[Reaganista]

that's a really patrician attitude to have tbh

[SoulSeekerz]

How Barbaric. I guess you could put the stuff on Pay-per-view and call it "Prison Death Match". I am sure they could find an audience

[Danger Bird]

Eliminate marijuana laws.

[A Spoonful Supreme]

You know this is destiny. Colosseum's of the future. We make 20 prisoners that are there for life and make them fight to the death. The winner gets to go free, all charges dropped. They will make tons of money, it will un-crowd the prisons, and rake in the cash. makes everyone happy.

agree/disagree? Tell me your thoughts.

okay george carlin

[VomitStainedCretin]

Stop putting people in prison for non-threatening activities such as fraud etc and just put them under house arrest/electro-tag them.

[Nadinus]

Stop putting people in prison for non-threatening activities such as fraud etc and just put them under house arrest/electro-tag them.

Exactly. There's only a handful of people who are actually a danger to the public, and clearly prison as a punishment doesn't work for the rest.
It's pathetic, by locking them up for a few months or w/e just puts them out of the way for a bit, and avoids having to look at any sort of reason for their behavior, or what can actually be done.

[Battles]

if some people complain that prison labour is inhumane, how is this idea ever going to get passed?

[Hababi]

Stop putting people in prison for non-threatening activities such as fraud etc and just put them under house arrest/electro-tag them.

Fraud ruins people's lives, and if people know that all they'll get is house arrest, fraud will drastically rise.

I don't know the percents, but a whole heck of a lot of people are in prison for non violent drug offenses. I find it pretty silly that people get 5-10 years for having a couple of kilo's of coke on them. If you get the drug users into rehab instead (or just give them a fine, if it's marijuana), you'll significantly reduce the prison population. Plus, speed up the execution process. Instead of taking 10-15 years to execute someone, it should take 5 max.

[Reaganista]

dude a couple of kilos is a lot of coke

[griftadan]

Stop putting people in prison for non-threatening activities such as fraud etc and just put them under house arrest/electro-tag them.

um fraud is threatening to our society

[Hababi]

dude a couple of kilos is a lot of coke

Yeah I probably should've lowered the amount there :p

[WhoDidTheElf]

I think the question would be to ask the prisoners them selves. I'm sure there'd be a bunch of them willing to do something of the nature.

[Chrizzle fo' Shizzle]

Either arrest fewer people, build more prisons, or, better yet, a combination of the two

[free_thinkers_are_dangerous]

Prison sentences keep getting longer because prisons are getting softer and softer. Prison food should taste like ***, prison beds should be hard as rocks, and prisoners should have little to no access to TV/other forms of entertainment. Then maybe you wouldn't need to give people 15 years to teach them a lesson.

I read a study somewhere on the effects of dissuasion caused by longer sentences, and the longer the sentence, the less effect increasing prison time has on someone who may commit a crime. Whether you threaten someone with 15 or 20 years makes absolutely no difference in their mind when they commit the crime, but if they've spent 6 months in jail before and hated every minute of it they might reconsider.

[The Stig]

Bring back the Blood Eagle or make prisoners do work and actually get punished for their crimes. None of this cable TV b.s. should be tolerated by taxpayers. Relax some drug laws; put dealers and kingpins in jail for longer, and isolate them. Make prison work camps in northern Alaska.

[Loser]

Ask criminals nicely not to do it again.

[Reaganista]

Make prison work camps in northern Alaska.
i tried to think of a witty stalin joke but everything i could come up with was stupid

Ask criminals nicely not to do it again.
that's what the do in japan
sort of

[VomitStainedCretin]

um fraud is threatening to our societyFraudsers do not generally threaten the physical well being of individuals in the same manner as a psychotic murderer would. Community service or hard labour would be more appropriate as they do not need to be separated from society, only the account books.

[PerpetualBurn]

I would think that completely financially crippling a family is worse than certain minor assault charges.

[Chrizzle fo' Shizzle]

Not to mention that all they need is internet access to keep doing it while under house arrest

[VomitStainedCretin]

I would think that completely financially crippling a family is worse than certain minor assault charges.I agree, I think they should be punished, I'm just suggesting possible candidates who could be removed from jail facilities to ease overcrowding.
Not to mention that all they need is internet access to keep doing it while under house arrestDisconnect their internet and freeze their assets. Plus I think they could be pre-occupied with some hard labour.

Why not use prisoners as manual labour to build more prisons. Cuts costs, keeps them busy and creates new accomodation.

[GreyHam]

Disconnect their internet and freeze their assets. Plus I think they could be pre-occupied with some hard labour.

Why not use prisoners as manual labour to build more prisons. Cuts costs, keeps them busy and creates new accomodation.

someone with more than three braincells could probably figure a way of scamming people even then.

all this talk of prison 'work camps' is beginning to sound a little worrying truth be told...

[The Stig]

Why? People who do crimes like murder/rape, etc. don't deserve to be a part of society anymore. Why not get some use out of them?

[Reaganista]

because then whenever the government wants some more slaves all they have to do is jail a few thousand innocent people

[lfantwister]

because then whenever the government wants some more slaves all they have to do is jail a few thousand innocent people
and fair speedy trials fit in where...?

[Reaganista]

wtf are you talking about

[lfantwister]

um... constitutional rights?

[Reaganista]

you can't have slave camps if you haven't already done away with constitutional rights....

[CarnageFairy]

um... constitutional rights?

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/amendment08/

Of course one's interpretation of "cruel and unusual" is highly subjective, but by today's standards I think it's safe to say the super high security forced labor camps in the middle of Alaska that Paul150 has described (in other threads to a greater extent IIRC) would fall under this category.

Not that I'm opposed to making inmates work while in prison, someone's gotta stamp the liscense plates, I guess I'm just not as...extreme in my views.

[Rosca]

Well, I have always wanted Roman Blood Sports to make a come back, and pay-per-view seems the logical way to do that...

I dunno about letting the winner go free... Just commute their sentence to life in prison for a certain number of wins...

Hell Yea! We could kill two birds with one stone. 1. Removal of prisoner and save money, and 2. Maximize on natural human bloodlust and need to be shocked.