Isis / Neurosis

[Phototropic]

I thought stoner / doom would be a good place to talk about these 2 similar bands but theres no interest apparently

I saw Isis on monday night for the first time, I did really enjoy, even though they played a lot of new stuff...what can ya do eh? they played beginning and the end and even celestial!!! which is wierd

I heard in an interview they don't play anything off Celestial but oh well, I was hoping for mostly stuff from Oceanic + Panopticon, they are my favourites

I haven't heard too much of Neurosis, I have Souls at Zero and Sun that never sets, can someone tell me which album to look into next?

hope theres people that wanna talk about these bands! :smoke:

peace

[AlienEater]

yeah I love them

I can't wait to hear the new Neurosis. It's meant to be awesome. A Sun that Never Sets and The Eye of Every Storm are my favourites though

[AA-12]

Both bands are awesome.

[Iron Bars]

I agree both bands are awesome. I've been listening to more Neurosis than Isis of late though. Favotite albums: Souls at zero and Enemy of the sun.

[Concubine]

i wanna hear Neurosis old stuff back when theyre still hardcore, or at least hardcore-influenced

[Roo_bass]

I've got Panopticon and In The Absence Of Truth by Isis. Cool stuff.

[omgwtfboogie]

Get Neurosis' new one, Given to the Rising. It's ****ing fantastic, easily one of their best (and the best they've made in years).

[ktstein]

I like both of these bands, and I also saw Isis live about a month and a half ago in Baton Rouge. My personal preference is towards Isis because it seems like they always seem to have that "wall of sound" thing going on. Neurosis is a little more stop and start, and plus, their singer is slightly cheesy. But, like Isis, the vocals aren't the focalpoint of the music, so I look past Neurosis' vocals.

[Kyle]

Ahh mate, you were at the Point on Monday? Me too, was a pretty cool show. Where abouts were you standing?

P.S Part Chimp kicked *** too.

[niobium]

I'm wearing an Isis shirt right now.

[ATM]

I like Isis more, but both bands are cool. Must have been a great show.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

If you like post metal like Isis and Neurosis, I suggest you look into the band Rosetta.

[ATM]

Definantly. Glad you guys suggested them to me.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

my first impression on Isis was that they were pretty boring, haven't gone back to them since though.

[AlienEater]

If you like post metal like Isis and Neurosis, I suggest you look into the band Rosetta.

pretty good band

[Txus]

I love both bands even though Neurosis kicks Isis *** every day for eternity. I would love to see Neurosis live, that would be amazing. Also, I think the new Neurosis album is their 2nd best effort after The Eye...many may disagree, but what the hell.

Why aren't we talking about Jesu? they are also pretty similar.

[AlienEater]

Neurosis rule live and Jesu are cool. s/t is their best imo although I haven't heard the first ep

[Sleepy]

Subterranean Masquerade is pretty cool, although they sound a lot different than just about anything.

EDIT: AlienEater, the ep is better than the self-titled.

[Txus]

Silver is the best Jesu ever.

[Daven]

Silver is ****ing awesome!

[Bukowski]

I may go see Isis tomorow night.

[omgwtfboogie]

This thread might as well be renamed "Sex" because all of the bands mentioned and discussed are ace.

Isis is so good, probably my favorite band. Neurosis changed my life in regards to music. Jesu was so good live, the records don't even compare.

Cult of Luna is alright too, although they basically rip off Isis (and although they're heavily influenced by Neurosis, they added a lot of their own elements, so...).

[Cocaine]

Neurosis is infinitely better than Isis.

[GleamInRanks]

Given to the Rising came out yesterday right? I went to look for it, but no luck. Now I'm depressed. :upset:

[Cocaine]

I need it, but first I need hard copies of their other shiz.

[Nepenthe]

Neurosis is infinitely better than Isis.

Wrong

And Cult Of Luna is the most unorginal band of all time. I couldn't believe how heavily they wear their influences on their sleeves. Completely a waste of time to listen to, as you could just listen to the bands they copy, who do it much better.

[Cocaine]

Isis = Neurosis for dummies

[Nepenthe]

Their new stuff doesn't really sound that much alike.

[Cocaine]

Yeah but Isis' new CD is bad so it evens out.

[Nepenthe]

Isis' new cd is better than Neurosis' by a mile. At least Isis can continue to evolve their sound.

[Cocaine]

Yeah but they evolved it from decent to shitty

[Nepenthe]

Well this is obviously a pointless conversation

[Cocaine]

I was just about to say that.

[GleamInRanks]

Through Silver in Blood is so heavy.

Neurosis has evolved their sound immensely. They started out as a hardcore band.

[Nepenthe]

Note the word continue

[GleamInRanks]

I thought A Sun That Never Sets sounded different from The Eye of Every Storm.

[TojesDolan]

Times of Grace is a great album.

[Nepenthe]

They've sounded the same since about 2000, excluding Neurosis And Jarboe of course. Not that it's a terribly bad thing, but I still like Isis better.

[Nostalgia]

Jesu was so good live, the records don't even compare.

Seriously? Isis stole the show when I saw them and Jesu play. There was nothing amazing from Jesu, other than their vocalist appearing to be autistic.

[Mr. Ron]

Neurosis are utter legends, ISIS are very close to being just as good. I prefer ISIS though. Panopticon is flawless.


Some bands I would suggest:

Cult of Luna: http://www.myspace.com/cultofluna
GIANT: http://www.myspace.com/giantnc
omega Massif: http://www.myspace.com/omegamassif
Back When: http://www.myspace.com/backwhen
Conifer: http://www.myspace.com/conifer
Callisto: http://www.myspace.com/callistochaos
Tides: http://www.myspace.com/tidesrites

[Mr. Ron]

Isis = Neurosis for dummies

Not really.

[Mr. Ron]

Wrong

And Cult Of Luna is the most unorginal band of all time. I couldn't believe how heavily they wear their influences on their sleeves. Completely a waste of time to listen to, as you could just listen to the bands they copy, who do it much better.
I own most of the albums of the bands being discussed here and I can honestly say they don't totally rip off other bands. They just sound similar since all of these bands have similar sounds.

[Txus]

Even though Isis are not a Neurosis rip off like some people might state, they do kick Isis ***.

Cult Of Luna are really bland, I like 1 album...the rest is meh.

[Mr. Ron]

I like salvation.

[Txus]

I like The Beyond

[TojesDolan]

Salvation is interesting.

[Apocalypticon]

Isis are so much better than Neurosis.

[Mr. Ron]

If i want to psychedelic/stoner/sludgy/heavy stuff I go to Neurosis, because lets face it, they are amazing to listen to while either thinking/relaxing or "not sober".



>_>


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I'm split though....Isis is my favorite band, but Neurosis got me into music like Isis, sooooo idk, they both rule.

[Cocaine]

Neurosis got Isis into bands like Isis.

Or something.

[Mr. Ron]

NO doubt that Neurosis were the grandaddy's of post-metal-ish music.

[Apocalypticon]

isis + neurosis = red sparowes

or something like that

and red sparowes are better than both

[Nostalgia]

All read I've throughout this thread is a bunch of plus and equal sings along with how much Neurosis is better than Isis.

[Mr. Ron]

Idk, I think the Red sparowes are pretty much a different genre all together.

[Apocalypticon]

I suppose. But there are still lots of similarities.

[Nepenthe]

All read I've throughout this thread is a bunch of plus and equal sings along with how much Neurosis is better than Isis.

All I read in the black metal thread is "Dood I just got 1 of 3 tapes Aryan Satan Lord's Blood released".

Red Sparowes = Isis > Neurosis

[Apocalypticon]

lol you forgot the who likes Darkthrone? I do but only TH, UaFM and ABitNS 3 page discussions.

and Red Sparowes > Isis > Neurosis IMO. I like the instrumental more ambient feel of Red Spaorwes but that gets into the 2 differentr genres subject.

[Txus]

Stfu Austin, listen to real music <3

Why the **** are we even stressing the Red Sparowes in the same sentence as Isis and Neurosis? they have nothing in common...at all.

Any Transmission0 fans in here? Amazing band that fans of Neurosis and Isis might like.

[Nepenthe]

Except band members

[Nostalgia]

All I read in the black metal thread is "Dood I just got 1 of 3 tapes Aryan Satan Lord's Blood released".

And let's keep it this way.

[iamrockzorz]

if this thread shows nothing else it shows how great both bands are, having dedicated fans throughout, most of which still respect the other band. they're both great bands, red sparowes is completely different imo.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Maybe Red Sparowes deserves another chance, but after listening to their album about 5 times, I hated it and haven't touched it since. :-/

[Nepenthe]

Really, if the opening track of Soundless Dawn doesn't get you, then there's no hope.

[Cocaine]

The opening got me but then I fell asleep. Then again I was le tired.

[Nepenthe]

I love the pedal steel melodies in that opening track. And the regular guitar near the end.

[Txus]

I love everything Red Sparowes.

[Mr. Ron]

Really, if the opening track of Soundless Dawn doesn't get you, then there's no hope.

^^^^^

[One Groovin Clown]

I love Isis, love their music.

I haven't heard of Neurosis, I think I'll give them a listen.

[TojesDolan]

They are really good. Maybe YOU SHOULD.

[One Groovin Clown]

I am right now. :p

They're pretty ****ing badass.

[niobium]

How does the second Red Sparowes compare to At the Soundless Dawn?

[AlienEater]

not as good, a little disappointing but still fairly enjoyable

[Mr. Ron]

not as good, a little disappointing but still fairly enjoyable

This. Its still worth picking up.

[GleamInRanks]

So did Given to the Rising come out on the 22nd or is it released June 5th? I've seen some inconsistency throughout many websites. I've even seen both dates on a single website.

[Eliminator]

sight says may 2007 rym says may 8th

[pixiesfanyo]

the second red sparowes is bettah

[Nepenthe]

Nah, but it's good.

[Txus]

It's a little worst but it's really good.

Like The Howling Glory Of The Darkest Winds, This Voice Was Thunderous And The Words Holy, Tangling Their Way Around Our Hearts And Clutching Our Innocent Awe is an awesome song, mad title though. I love the concept behind the album.

[Nepenthe]

Both of their albums concepts are ace. Taken from pre existing things, but both are interesting as hell.

[Txus]

Yeah man, I don't know the concept of the first one though :(

[Nepenthe]

The sixth extinction. Just google it, it's fascinating.

[Txus]

Holy ****, really interesting stuff bro :)

If anyone wants a good read:

http://www.actionbioscience.org/newfrontiers/eldredge2.html

[Nepenthe]

Yeah that's the same place I read it. It's really fascinating. Very scary and surreal too.

[pixiesfanyo]

The first one relies to heavily on the boring ambient sections. The second one just rocks out and has very little crescendo stuff. It makes it a more interesting listen.

[Nepenthe]

That's only true if you consider the ambient sections boring.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I listened to RS again. Same reaction.

[Nepenthe]

gtfo then

[Mr. Ron]

The first one relies to heavily on the boring ambient sections. The second one just rocks out and has very little crescendo stuff. It makes it a more interesting listen.

Boring is subjective.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I figured most people had caught onto Jared's style by now.

[Cocaine]

Douchebag is hardly a style.

[Nepenthe]

I got the prog thread, but that would hardly classify as funny in any sense. I guess I just don't get it?

[pixiesfanyo]

Soundless Dawn is more boring.

ITS A FACT.

[AlienEater]

I just got new Neurosis album. It's good

[One Groovin Clown]

Neurosis seems to be a darker version of isis. Isis seems to shift in between i the "good" and the "bad"

Neurosis likes too follow up the dark riffs with thick ambiance.

My god they're both awesome.

[Phototropic]

I love Isis more so than Neurosis because its like one mass lumbering beast thats constantly evolving, Neurosis are up and down, too frantic, even though their soundscapes are good, they're not amazing and perfectly formed like stuff off Oceanic or Panopticon

Red Sparrowes, both albums = awesome

i can put them on and just trip out like mad to them, takes me to another place, havent got a favourite out of the 2 yet