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VomitStainedCretin
05-15-2007, 02:49 PM
I'm surprised there hasn't been a thread about this yet:TONY JONES: Well it seems the media no longer has a monopoly on ambushing people with cameras. The Church of Scientology has created a video ambush of its own, filming a BBC reporter losing his cool. In past years the incident may have gained a quiet notoriety before fading into obscurity, but that's all changed with the advent of the hugely popular video websites like YouTube. That's the platform Scientologists chose to air their video to counter a BBC documentary critical of the church. John Stewart reports.

JOHN STEWART: When a BBC reporter for the Panorama program set out to make a documentary about the Church of Scientology, he found himself in front of the camera. After days of being filmed by the Scientologists, the BBC journalist cracked when his subjects accused him of failing to ask tough questions during an interview with a critic of the church. The Scientologists then posted the video on YouTube.

INTERVIEWEE: What evidence, Shaun Lonsdale, do you have that people have been tortured? You didn't do that.

JOHN SWEENEY, BBC REPORTER: Stop there, Tommy.

INTERVIEWEE: No, I'm not stopping there. You listen to me for a second, you're accusing members of my religion of engaging in brainwashing!

JOHN SWEENEY: You listen to me! From the beginning of the interview, you were not there! You did not hear the record of interview! Did you understand?

JOHN STEWART: The Scientologists have plenty of support in Hollywood with Tom Cruise and John Travolta amongst their ranks. The church has distributed tens of thousands of DVDs to undermine the BBC documentary, which examines the growth of Scientology and its negative views about psychiatry.

VOICEOVER: Scientology and me, John Sweeney investigates a religious organisation that does not like to be called a cult.

JOHN STEWART: But the BBC's Panorama show has hit back, posting this footage of a Scientologist losing his cool during the making of the documentary.

TOM DAVIS, SCIENTOLOGIST: You have no right whatsoever to say what and what isn't a religion. The constitution of the United States of America guarantees one's right to practice and believe freely in this country and the definition of religion is very clear and it's not defined by John Sweeney. Right here, right now, I'm angry, real angry.

JOHN SWEENEY: It is your turn to listen to me. I'm a British subject, not an American citizen and in my country we have a freedom of speech.

JOHN STEWART: The BBC reporter has apologised. That's also on the Internet.

JOHN SWEENEY: But I did it in a way which I regret and I apologise to the Church of Scientology.

JOHN STEWART: YouTube is now a powerful mass medium watched by millions of viewers around the world. The Scientology versus BBC battle on the Internet may be the shape of things to come.And here is the video of John Sweeney:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxqR5NPhtLI
In case you're wondering, I'm supporting the BBC despite the outburst as Scientology IMO is a farce and Sweeney was apparently followed and harassed by cult members throughout the making of the documentary. I'm just wondering what your opinions are.

Knifeboy
05-15-2007, 03:32 PM
Every single thing involving scientology, absolutely disgusts me. The fact that anyone is less than disgusted by this cult, scares me

And the fact that people even are reacting to a 10 second clip of some reporter screaming, without any background info, confuses me ?!

VomitStainedCretin
05-15-2007, 03:39 PM
And the fact that people even are reacting to a 10 second clip of some reporter screaming, without any background info, confuses me ?!Well, this is basically the Scientologists stirring sh1t up in preparation for sending in their army of lawyers to sue everyone who badmouths them. They've got the money and celebrities to back up this retarded smear campaign too.

Knifeboy
05-15-2007, 03:42 PM
Yeah. And it confuses me that people actually fall for this ****..
Doesn't suprise me though :/

Untitled
05-15-2007, 03:50 PM
Every single thing involving scientology, absolutely disgusts me. The fact that anyone is less than disgusted by this cult, scares me

And the fact that people even are reacting to a 10 second clip of some reporter screaming, without any background info, confuses me ?!

There was a 30 minute show on it.

At every single interview, or piece the journalist guy did, the guy he was shouting at turned up, even when the beeb hadnt told him when and where they will be, which strengthens there point on spying for a start, but he just burst out like that because the guy was too ignorant to listen to anything but what his own warped mind is saying.

If you want to watch, its here...


Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6J8-Zfzd55E&mode=related&search=
Part2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0UZ7xeni28&mode=related&search=
Part3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPnoqGHhmWc&mode=related&search=

GreyHam
05-15-2007, 04:15 PM
nice bit of squeaky shouting there...

id have done the exact same thing if id been interviewing those farcical twerps

Eliminator
05-15-2007, 04:22 PM
aww, hale-bopp won't be back for another 4373 years

:(

peeted
05-15-2007, 04:25 PM
It was a crap documentry, the scientologists shot themselves in the foot by refusing to be interviewed and then stalking him for a week interupting every interview he did with anyone opposed to the religion. It told us nothing about scientology except that some of the members are cunts (which most people already know) and shouldnt have been aired in my oppinion.

FakePlasticTrees
05-15-2007, 04:28 PM
That was interesting to piece to watch.


Makes me wonder how people can believe in that rubbish. :/

Dr Hooch
05-15-2007, 04:37 PM
I think 2 hours of watching holocaust videos would make anyone snap.

I like the way our government doesn't even recognise them as a religion.

To sum up scientology in 2 sentences:

Ron L Hubbard was diagnosed with Schizophrenia.

Scientology is a cult with strange unscientific theories which campaigns against phsychiatrists.

Eliminator
05-15-2007, 04:40 PM
what exactly do they worship or do to constitute them as a religion in the US?

Dr Hooch
05-15-2007, 05:07 PM
Basically they're not muslim

Reaganista
05-15-2007, 05:26 PM
what

fingers mccoy
05-15-2007, 05:42 PM
yeh i thought the documentary was bad too but panorama's never been particularly good at anything but sensationalism, however poignant or important

i reckon a better reporter wouldve been able to at least get tom davis to shut up for a couple of minutes, all he was was a dim-witted bully

MattSharpIsCool
05-15-2007, 08:56 PM
I love that video.

*insane screaming, red faced, finger pointing*

*really calm* Do you understand what I'm saying?

*insane screaming, red faced, finger pointing*

Scientologists are crazy.

Akira
05-15-2007, 09:32 PM
You guys are so glib.

Eliminator
05-15-2007, 10:00 PM
VITAMINS AND EXERCISE

VomitStainedCretin
05-16-2007, 05:28 AM
Don't forget to gag your wife when she's giving birth or her screams will attract thetans that will inhabit your child! :lol:

Yes, psychiatrists are part of a global conspiracy headed by Soviet Russia (yes, apparently they really believe that).

The Super Adventure Club>>>Scientology

AlienEater
05-16-2007, 05:38 AM
no brah scientology is better I mean the super adventure club doesn't even get to eat placentas

VomitStainedCretin
05-16-2007, 05:43 AM
That's a lot of excess posts (stating the obvious). Yes, but Scientologists will never be able to attain immortality like the Super Adventure Club.

AlienEater
05-16-2007, 05:50 AM
How did it happen

I can't get rid of them :(

edit: ok so I deleted all the excess posts. I didn't even know it was possible to have 10+ posts of the same thing within two minutes. And it wasn't even a funny post

EinzingerIsGod
05-16-2007, 12:03 PM
My roommate's uncle became a high member in Scientology or whatever and has since more or less disappeared because of this cult.

davser
05-25-2007, 07:21 AM
yeh i thought the d0cumentary was bad too but panorama's never been particularly good at anything but sensationalism, however poignant or important


How old are you? i'm guessing you never watched Panorama in the 80's and 90's as that was nothing about sensationalism but rather incisive investigative reporting.

fingers mccoy
05-25-2007, 08:36 AM
yeh i'm 17 and i didnt take notice until i was about 12 so i'll take your word for it

sorry

Woundweaver
05-25-2007, 08:53 AM
I quite like panorama, though it can get a little "how's the world going to end this week?" at times...

I'm with the reporter on this one, if you watch some of the other clips showing both sides, it shows how he was followed, dictated to in interviews at every step of the way by the scientologists, interrupted in the middle of counter pointed interviews and pretty much they just made it incredibly difficult for him to make an unbiased documentry...

Bunch of nutcases imo tbh...

davser
05-25-2007, 08:55 AM
yeh i'm 17 and i didnt take notice until i was about 12 so i'll take your word for it

sorry

No need to be sorry! Panorama did lose some credibility after it was moved to it's later slot.