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SoulSeekerz
05-15-2007, 12:53 AM
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/5/14/162425.shtml?s=al&promo_code=3403-1

Unbelievable!

Osama bin Laden and his terrorist group desperately want to obtain nuclear devices and explode them in American cities, especially New York and Washington, D.C., FBI Director Robert S. Mueller III tells NewsMax.

In a wide-ranging and exclusive interview, Mueller also acknowledged that bin Laden is still active, though isolated. The Director revealed the Bureau believes the terrorist leader continues to communicate with al-Qaida cells, some of which remain in the U.S.

Mueller declined to say how often bin Laden communicates or to elaborate on the substance of his communications.

Other intelligence sources tell NewsMax that U.S. security efforts have forced bin Laden to return to "horse-and-buggy days" -- avoiding electronic communications in favor of using trusted couriers.

But Mueller says though hemmed in, Al-Qaida's paramount goal is clear: to detonate a nuclear device that would kill hundreds of thousands of Americans.

In contrast to homegrown terrorists, al-Qaida is far more likely to be able to pull off such an attack.

Mueller admits the nuclear threat is so real he sometimes wakes up in the middle of the night worrying about that possibility.

"I think it would be very difficult to wipe out the United States, but you'd have hundreds of thousands of casualties from a nuclear device, depending on the size of that nuclear device," Mueller tells NewsMax.

A Lust for Destruction

Al-Qaida could obtain such a device in one of two ways.

"One is to obtain a nuclear device that's already been constructed from one of the former Iron Curtain countries, and the other way is to put together the fissile material and the expertise and do an improvised nuclear device," Mueller says.

"And there's no doubt that al-Qaida, if it had the capability, would go down either route to get a nuclear device."

Mueller also has little doubt as to Al-Qaida's likely targets.

"It would be someplace in the United States, in most likely Washington and or New York, depending on how many devices they have. Or both cities," Mueller says.

Because the U.S. has not been attacked in almost six years, Mueller worries that "we are in danger of becoming complacent."

"Al-Qaida is tremendously patient and thinks nothing about taking years to infiltrate persons in and finding the right personnel and opportunity to undertake an attack.

"And we cannot become complacent, because you look around the world, and whether it's London or Madrid or Bali or recently Casablanca or Algiers, attacks are taking place."

Mueller adds the U.S. must remain vigilant. He says our security efforts must "adapt to the new threat landscape."

He then adds: "We are going to be hit at some point. It's just a question of when and to what extent."

Zaphod Beeblebrox
05-15-2007, 12:55 AM
Oh my this is very surprising! I would have been extremely correct in my assumption that he only wanted to do this a little bit but now I am incorrect! I am shaking in my tonsils! O' life doth taste of this begotten downtrodden strife, O' life!

The Frugal Gourmet
05-15-2007, 01:00 AM
Bin Laden more like Bin Wanten to Strike U.S. Cities with Nuclear Weapons

Zaphod Beeblebrox
05-15-2007, 01:01 AM
He's Bin Laden with an immoral tendency to strike fear in the hearts of innocent Americans!

The Frugal Gourmet
05-15-2007, 01:03 AM
he's Bin Laden us along for far too long now, and it's time for him to deliver

griftadan
05-15-2007, 01:04 AM
shocking?

almost his whole base of operation has been crippled. so who cares?

SoulSeekerz
05-15-2007, 01:09 AM
This is a serious post with terrifying repercussions. Please treat it as such.

griftadan
05-15-2007, 01:14 AM
also extremely obvious and extremely unlikely.

SoulSeekerz
05-15-2007, 01:15 AM
also extremely obvious and extremely unlikely.
Then why would the FBI seemed so concerned?

griftadan
05-15-2007, 01:19 AM
probably because the ramificaitons are so severe

Amit
05-15-2007, 01:35 AM
It almost feels like Heroes come to real life :-\

Bron-Yr-Aur
05-15-2007, 07:23 AM
extremely obvious and extremely unlikely.

^^^

-1up!-
05-15-2007, 09:35 AM
The apocalyptic tone of it all makes me laugh more than worry.

Paranoid Americans.

Jon
05-15-2007, 09:41 AM
Bin Laden wanting to kill people?

eran cohen wanting teh anarxi?

these new revelations are truly shocking and unexpected.

what next, zero will tell us he's a virgin?

*shudder*

Dr Hooch
05-15-2007, 09:44 AM
I want to unify relativity and quantum mechanics, but it ain't happening...

Then why would the FBI seemed so concerned?

Fearmongering to get their horrible legislation through the government.

Akira
05-15-2007, 04:04 PM
I want to unify relativity and quantum mechanics, but it ain't happening...



Fearmongering to get their horrible legislation through the government.

Yeah, you beat me to the fearmongering thing. No better way to get people to support you than to tell them that they are in mortal peril.

metalkingtiger
05-15-2007, 10:14 PM
People used to joke and have a irrelevant attitude for stuff like this before Pearl Harbor, 9/11 and other incidents, but I guess they don't learn.

metalkingtiger
05-15-2007, 10:22 PM
also extremely obvious and extremely unlikely.

Again, nobody believed an attack such as 9/11 could happen.

griftadan
05-15-2007, 10:31 PM
because we never fathomed the method, we know the method here and we know how unlikely it is for someone to get nuclear bombs

Scuba_Steve
05-15-2007, 10:37 PM
Again, nobody believed an attack such as 9/11 could happen.

people freaked out during the cold war and guess what?





no nuclear warfare erupted.

peeted
05-16-2007, 09:19 AM
Loads of people want to nuke the U.S, big deal. What new evidence have they got to make it any more relevant now?

ringworm
05-16-2007, 09:30 AM
Upcoming elections?

griftadan
05-16-2007, 09:51 AM
people freaked out during the cold war and guess what?





no nuclear warfare erupted.

i don't think the situations are comparable, the factors of deterrence aren't they same.

ashman
05-16-2007, 10:39 AM
people freaked out during the cold war and guess what?





no nuclear warfare erupted.

USA vs. USSR = They had MAD, if any side had used a Nuclear Weapon, they would have lost everything and that is not what anyone wanted.

USA vs. Terrorists = USA has everything to lose, the terrorists don't care if they die.

They're two completely different comparisions.

peeted
05-16-2007, 10:52 AM
Upcoming elections?

Good point.

EinzingerIsGod
05-16-2007, 11:28 AM
Then why would the FBI seemed so concerned?

It's easier for the government to do whatever the hell it wants when it's governing a scared population. These sorts of stories pop up every couple months when they feel we are becoming "complacent" to keep us under their thumbs.

Upcoming elections?

Elections are still 18 months away.

spitfirejunky
05-16-2007, 01:34 PM
Mueller admits the nuclear threat is so real he sometimes wakes up in the middle of the night worrying about that possibility.

This is probably no laughing matter, but :lol::lol::lol:.

EinzingerIsGod
05-16-2007, 01:35 PM
This is probably no laughing matter, but :lol::lol::lol:.

Yeah that is so lame.

ringworm
05-16-2007, 01:42 PM
Elections are still 18 months away.
and?

EinzingerIsGod
05-16-2007, 01:44 PM
and?

I'm not saying it has nothing to do with it. It just can't be because of that entirely simply on the fact that Americans can only hold their attention for 15 minutes on anything.

To me it's just like the color coded terror threat system: it's just another way of keeping people scared.

Carrionshine
05-16-2007, 02:22 PM
I fail to see how much Bin Laden would actually gain from this. I mean, sure, Middle Eastern worship of him is pretty high already but a nuclear attack in America can almost ensure multiple ones in the ME. No one stands to gain from domestic terror more than the federal government.

lfantwister
05-16-2007, 02:49 PM
I fail to see how much Bin Laden would actually gain from this. I mean, sure, Middle Eastern worship of him is pretty high already but a nuclear attack in America can almost ensure multiple ones in the ME. No one stands to gain from domestic terror more than the federal government.
The terrorists should hit Israel first, strategically speaking, if dems win in the next election. The tie with Israel is going to be severely limited so we wont feel too much responsiblity or culpability if its a year or so after the new prez gets power.

Smokey D
05-16-2007, 05:19 PM
Even Democrats have strong ties to Israel -- if Tel Aviv got nuked, there would be a major response by every Western military power.

lfantwister
05-16-2007, 06:31 PM
Not denying that at all, the ties are just not as strong as republicans'. Look at Jimmy Carter or Howard Dean.

AmericanWeiner
05-16-2007, 06:50 PM
big whoop

Smokey D
05-16-2007, 07:59 PM
Not denying that at all, the ties are just not as strong as republicans'. Look at Jimmy Carter or Howard Dean.

That's like comparing steel to iron. The ties aren't as strong, but they're still amongst the strongest in the world.

Krabsworth
05-16-2007, 08:23 PM
The great thing is is that it is believed that if we leaved Iraq right now, the other groups, gangs whatever you want to call them would wipe out the Al Queda in the area.

Eliminator
05-16-2007, 08:38 PM
i bet the FBI has bin laughin about this

Smokey D
05-16-2007, 09:05 PM
The great thing is is that it is believed that if we leaved Iraq right now, the other groups, gangs whatever you want to call them would wipe out the Al Queda in the area.

Probably not, though it'd weaken their position. Al-Qaeda is too multi national to be destroyed like that.

Reaganista
05-16-2007, 09:43 PM
USA vs. Terrorists = USA has everything to lose, the terrorists don't care if they die.
actually they'd be giving up a very powerful position for absolutely no gain
and probably securing their own destruction

Carrionshine
05-16-2007, 09:45 PM
The terrorists in the ME are doing just fine without the help of attacks on our soil.

AmericanWeiner
05-16-2007, 09:59 PM
There are terrorists in YOU? Oh shi call the FBI

lfantwister
05-16-2007, 11:34 PM
actually they'd be giving up a very powerful position for absolutely no gain
and probably securing their own destruction
they would be fulfilling their goals of western destruction? the fact that they would no longer be powerful is sort of irrelevant.

RNR
05-17-2007, 01:04 AM
If they actually pull of a nuclar attack in the United States, it would result in all-out military campaign in the middle east and the death of thousands of innocent Arabs. If you think that Iraq is random, messy, military action with too many civilian deaths, just imagine how it could be.

Reaganista
05-17-2007, 02:04 AM
they would be fulfilling their goals of western destruction? the fact that they would no longer be powerful is sort of irrelevant.
no they would actually fulfill their goals much more effectively by continuing to exist