Racism and the Asian Sex Trade

[Charlie Daniels]

Yeah so if you guys didn't know in south east asia there are thousands of girls under 12 enslaved as sex workers. Some of them get locked up in brothels where there are multiple child sex slaves, others are 'owned' by takeaway food shops and kept in a cupboard out the back as a means to supplement their income.

Now I see on the news some english girl gets abuducted (likely to become a sex slave) and it's being treated like some international crisis. Theres like a 2.6 million pound reward.

I'm sure that money could be used to 'buy' thousands of these child sex slaves from their captors... then the thousands of children could be set free and the world would be abit more peachy.

If your ignorant to the real world: http://archives.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/europe/03/08/women.trafficking/

"Almost 200,000 girls from Nepal, many of them under the age of 14, are working as sex slaves in India."

"The Thai government reports that 60,000 Thai children have been sold into prostitution."

"As many as 10,000 children aged between six and 14 are virtually enslaved in brothels in Sri Lanka."

[Charlie Daniels]

IMPORTANT NOTE

A moderator edited the title of this thread to something different to I originally named it... and has thus distorted the tone of this thread. The original title was "No one gives a toss about the slitty eyed girls gettin abucted and raped...."

[SoulSeekerz]

This type of trade has been going on in certain asian countires for hundreds of years. Very sad, but true.

[Smokey D]

I don't know why you'd say 'slitty eyed girls'. If you want to take this seriously, go ahead. If you want to turn this into a joke, I'll lock the thread.

[Meatplow]

yeah it's not right

it's not specific to the Asian sex trade but the amount of people into child p0rnography is not right and where it leads to disturbs me. There is a very thin line these days within a lot of men's minds regarding sex and children even in the western world due to wide, with easy access to such illegal material on the internet. Gone are the days of shady mail order, if people go looking for p0rn they have more then enough alternative choice.

In these dodgy countries children are easily exploited. Paying to free these girls would achieve nothing in the long run, all it would do is keep these people living in comfort and continuing to do what they do.

[GreyHam]

its not right, thats true.

but its pretty standard that, for example, the british government is more willing to spend its money protecting its own citizens. its wrong, no doubt, and its wrong that the governments in these respective countries are either turning a blind eye or endorsing it, and we SHOULD be doing something to stop it. but, it was wrong for saddam hussein to commit mass murder against his own people, and look how much of a disaster the war in iraq was...

plus: setting a thread with a title like that will never get you taken seriously, its not funny and its nor ironic

[R.L.]

shouldn't we be asking why these other countries are letting these sex trades go on?

they can make as big of a deal about this one girl as they can. they can't change what these other goverments do but maybe this family can get their girl back.

[Kurrpt]

I saw this on dateline


it was pretty disturbing, yea, but I did find it amusing they call it

yum-yum
and
boom-boom

[Charlie Daniels]

no one cares about the poor little gooks getting rapoed eveyrday day. mno one excepot me. your all a buinch of ****ing hiuppocrits. hell i'me racist but atleast i feel pain when i think of thwe lifes tottally destroyed by the greedy americans and enlighs and all the other peoi[philes.

no one else cares though. NO ONE ****ING CAREWS. no one except me. i could cry now though. i've stuffed up too. but i learned from my mistakes.

[StreetlightRock]

I wrote a storm for the Short Story comp in the Pit based on this if anyones interested.

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showpost.php?p=14089453&postcount=23

[R.L.]

no one cares about the poor little gooks getting rapoed eveyrday day. mno one excepot me. your all a buinch of ****ing hiuppocrits. hell i'me racist but atleast i feel pain when i think of thwe lifes tottally destroyed by the greedy americans and enlighs and all the other peoi[philes.

no one else cares though. NO ONE ****ING CAREWS. no one except me. i could cry now though. i've stuffed up too. but i learned from my mistakes.

than become some kind of superhero or something and stop being so 'tarded.

[Charlie Daniels]

beleive me i want too. but i have what? a few thousanmd dollars in the bank? if i could save just one girl i would give up all th emeoneyt i have saved and hell everything i own. but io cant. and that hurst so much.

[Der Übermensch]

White Slavery scares White People a lot more than the enslavement of impoverished 3rd world women. Horrid yes, but just how things are.

[Zaphod Beeblebrox]

beleive me i want too. but i have what? a few thousanmd dollars in the bank? if i could save just one girl i would give up all th emeoneyt i have saved and hell everything i own. but io cant. and that hurst so much.
Yes, we are sorely disappointed you cannot purchase a sex slave. We sympathize.

[GreyHam]

no one cares about the poor little gooks getting rapoed eveyrday day. mno one excepot me. your all a buinch of ****ing hiuppocrits. hell i'me racist but atleast i feel pain when i think of thwe lifes tottally destroyed by the greedy americans and enlighs and all the other peoi[philes.

no one else cares though. NO ONE ****ING CAREWS. no one except me. i could cry now though. i've stuffed up too. but i learned from my mistakes.

your a clown

and im taking you about seriously as i take the mighty boosh

stop trolling

and in the unlikely event your being serious

stop talking down to people, learn to spell, and remember that some people try to help by not whining about things on the internet but actually doing something about it, in whatever way they can

[Eliminator]

herman li

[Zaphod Beeblebrox]

For twelve days long I rode and invariably, sauntered.

Now? Is it the end of all? Cobblestone wratchetwatch.

Seething.

It's a good thing they invented disposable razors because now I can use my razor-garbage cans unlike the non-disposable ones.

[Kage]

Life in western countries such as Britain and the United States is far more valuable than Southeastern Asian life.

[Zaphod Beeblebrox]

I will donate. To purchase you a sex slave.

[pedro durruti]

Like it or not people value their children who they have strong emotional attachments to and will do anything to get them back no matter how many "slitty eyed girls" could be saved with the same amount of money. Selfish in a way, yes, but then again your loved ones are often more important than anything or anyone else in the world.

[Lars Rich]

I don't see anything wrong with it. Maybe I'll order a few on Craigslist.

[Charlie Daniels]

Like it or not people value their children who they have strong emotional attachments to and will do anything to get them back no matter how many "slitty eyed girls" could be saved with the same amount of money. Selfish in a way, yes, but then again your loved ones are often more important than anything or anyone else in the world.

Yes, except Richard Brandsden and the other people putting in millions of dollars into the reward pot aren't related to Madeline.

[GreyHam]

so frigging what?

its his money, hell donate it to the cause he wants to help. are you planning on taxing rich people to stop inequality across the world?

what you are completely ignoring is that it should be the thai government, and other governments for respective companies, who are doing something about this. there comes a time when you have to step in but by doing that you are effectively saying 'your government isnt good enough, were going to do something about it'

what is it you actually propose people do? because so far all youve done is moan without offering any kind of alternative

[Charlie Daniels]

ffs where are your eyes you halfwit?

$9 million dollars (the reward for the return of Missing Madeline) could be used to rescue thousands of asian children, yet none of these people offer a cent towards that cause.

[GreyHam]

whats your point, that celebrities and tycoons are buying publicity?

and sorry, donating money to rescue sex slaves is NOT a solution

[Kage]

ffs where are your eyes you halfwit?

$9 million dollars (the reward for the return of Missing Madeline) could be used to rescue thousands of asian children, yet none of these people offer a cent towards that cause.

Can you really expect them to?

[Charlie Daniels]

I don't see why people are putting so much value on a white child, in a foreign country, who they are unrelated too, while ignoring the plight of the non-white children suffering the same fate?

It's obviously racism...

[Kurrpt]

i think the fact it happened to a white child just makes it seem closer to home, or easier to identify with.

[Charlie Daniels]

i think the fact it happened to a white child just makes it seem closer to home, or easier to identify with.

Yes, I tottally agree. It's completely racist.

[GreyHam]

its nothing to do with racism

[Kurrpt]

depends how you define the term

its pretty obvious people put a higher regard on this child, than the thousands of others that are located, but nothing is done about it.


so yes, from the preponderance of evidence, its pretty safe to say that race has something to do with the current attention this incident is getting

[Charlie Daniels]

its nothing to do with racism
So how else do you explain the international media attention and rewards offerred for a white child kidnapped in a foreign county, when the millions of non-white children previously kidnapped in foreign countries haven't even made the news?

The variable factor is race :-|

[GreyHam]

thats not the same as racism

now i cant speak for americans, im british, portugal isnt halfway across the world - its a 2 hour flight. im not overly bothered, its got nothing to do with me - on the same day she went missing a 26 year old girl was murdered in my universities hall of residence.

the reason people dont care isnt because theyre asian, its not racial, its cultural. people can identify with a western child going missing, because they can imagine it happening to their own child, or their sister, or a friend.

equally, the scale of the problem of sex slavery is so massive that it just washes over people, like famine in africa. its on such a large scale that people cant comprehend it, and as a result cant empathise with it.

besides, theres lots of white sex slaves - noone cares about sex slaves full stop

[Kurrpt]

that's racially motivated. You try to cover it up as saying "cultural", but then again, we, as americans, don't share the same "culture" as this little white girl that was abducted, yet, we identify with her so easily...


why?

its racialy motivated

[Charlie Daniels]

There is somewhat of a problem in Australia (a western country) with child prostitution and child rapage... however it receives little, if any, media attention as it's victims always aboriginal children.

I don't see Americans or Brits (nor white australians even) giving a toss about these little girls...

[GreyHam]

in all honesty, why should the british, or american governments intervene with what the australian government should be doing?

theres a massive difference between something being racially motivated and something being racist.

and i stick by what i said - if it was an asian american citizen, or a black british citizen, or an indian australian citizen, it would be the same - its cultural, not racial

[Kurrpt]

theres a massive difference between something being racially motivated and something being racist


explain then


i'm waiting

[GreyHam]

you can have a preference towards ones own race without actively discriminating against another

simple

[Iskandar]

you can have a preference towards ones own race without actively discriminating against another

simple
Yeah, that's tacit racism.

[GreyHam]

either way, its irrelevent to this thread, as ive already explained

[Reaganista]

its nothing to do with racism

no its completely racist

but its also not terribly surprising

[Charlie Daniels]

you can have a preference towards ones own race without actively discriminating against another

simple
Oh you mean like those non-racist eateries with signs proclaiming "Whites Served Only" or those drinking fountains for "whites Use Only" and the like? They weren't racist? :rolleyes:

Your just a pathetic, closet racist, troll.

[Smokey D]

I don't think it is racist, as such. That people are more concerned with the abduction of a little English girl in Portugal more than child sex slavery in Asia reflects how the media has presented the story, the relative novelty of it (children don't often get kidnapped in the West) and the fact that she's British (not that she's white).

Of course, being concerned with someone because they're British is as stupid as being concerned with someone because they're white, but that's how it goes. Greyham is technically right when he says the frenzy over the abduction of the English is a non-racial issue.

Potentially, however, there is an element of racism in how the sex trade stories are presented, which makes them less of a concern to the public.

[Charlie Daniels]

Well then why do media stories about black-australians (australia is a western country) suffering similiar fates to this white girl go largely unreported by the media. Just like a month ago a sex ring involving a whole community run by pedophiles was found in one of the remote areas of the country...

[Smokey D]

Well then why do media stories about black-australians (australia is a western country) suffering similiar fates to this white girl go largely unreported by the media.

Er?

I don't doubt there aren't elements of racism in this sort of thing. That's what I meant when I said 'potentially, however, there is an element of racism in how the sex trade stories are presented, which makes them less of a concern to the public'. But I don't think you can say the different responses to these sort of things when the nationality of the person affected changes is entirely racially motivated.

[GreyHam]

Oh you mean like those non-racist eateries with signs proclaiming "Whites Served Only" or those drinking fountains for "whites Use Only" and the like? They weren't racist? :rolleyes:

Your just a pathetic, closet racist, troll.

excuse me, wouldnt that fit into the categry of discrimination?

your clearly very passionate about this subject, but youve gone about it in a pathetic emo way. my advice would be get OFF MX and go do something about it if you care so much

http://www.worldvision.org/get_involved.nsf/child/globalissues_stp

theres a start for you (done that hard work, aint i good?)

call me a racist, deary deary me. how dare you

[Meatplow]

There is somewhat of a problem in Australia (a western country) with child prostitution and child rapage... however it receives little, if any, media attention as it's victims always aboriginal children.

I don't see Americans or Brits (nor white australians even) giving a toss about these little girls...

i have read about the aboriginal sex trade but i tell you Australia is one of the safest countries to be living in. these acts are in the minority.

the only people seeming to be raping people that get attention here in Australia are rich white kids with too much time on their hands. what inspires them to do this sh*t i dunno, i could point to prolific sexualisation and violence in the media but i don't know peoples circumstances.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Melbourne_teenage_DVD_controversy

There was also a massive Lebonese controversy in Sydney a few years back when a group of Lebonese teenagers picked up a white girl and raped her, saying that skippy bitch deserved it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney_gang_rapes

But it happens all over the world. Look at Japan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junko_Furuta

These are all singular incidents that aren't tied in to any kind of international trade, but rape is prolific all the same. I think it's very sad and like Charlie Daniels said if i could save even one from undergoing these feelings it would be worth it. The world is in a sad oversexed state.

[Sanjna]

Racism cannot be tollerated in this day or age. Not even against the Asian for the railroad trade or the blacks for the slavery or me and atmans people for the 9/11 attacks it's all stereotype

[Woundweaver]

IMO It all comes down to desensitisation. We hear a constant flow of storys of poverty, an aids chrisis, families starving, natural disasters throughout africa and the east. But because our generation hears of these things on a nigh on daily basis, we begin to shut them off from our moral compass.

Then one day we hear of somebody, a child on our doorstep being kidnapped, raped, probably killed. And it hits closer to home, it becomes real. If she could be kidnapped, anyone could. Hell, the little girl next door could, our sister, our daughter It's nothing to be ashamed of, it's simply human. If anyone on these forums saw an eastern child being raped and had to but lift a finger to save them, i'm sure everyone would. However because these individual cases stop being individual, and begin to become statistics, they become less human, and hence we have less of a human reaction to it.

It's not racial, it's cultural, it's geographical, and at the end of the day it comes down to how much it affects you... Morally, emotionally and physically.


EDIT:

Oh yeah, and spending $9m on "Buying back" sex slaves is just a retarded, close minded way of fixing the symptom but not the cause.

[loathed]

I live in southeast asia. however, child prostitution isnt very rampant in where i am. i know where you guys are coming from, because we're reminded constantly of child prostitution and porn and are firmly against it.

its just disturbing.

[Charlie Daniels]

Oh yeah, and spending $9m on "Buying back" sex slaves is just a retarded, close minded way of fixing the symptom but not the cause.

so it's a better option to leave them in the hell they endure daily just because rescuing them would be addressing a symptom not a cause?

how the **** can people like you not realise that this isnt some philosophical question with no consequence. LITTLE CHILDRENS LIVES ARE BEING DESTROYED yet you all treat it like it's some riddle like "wots the sound of one hand clapping?" and crap.

DONT YOU REALISE THAT LITTLE ASIAN GIRLS ARE HUMAN BEINGS AND DONT DESERVE BEIN RAPED AND PROSTITUTED SINCE THEY WERE 5 YEARS OLD?

[Woundweaver]

Christ almighty...

So it's a better option to leave them in the hell they endure daily just because rescuing them would be addressing a symptom not a cause?

Okay, so you spend these $9m yeah? So what are the slavers THEN going to do eh? Lap it up and live their life out without ever commiting another crime again. Hell no. Their going to spend this money on making their operations more effeciant, hire more slavers, expand their base of operations. And ultimately there are going to be FAR more little girls being kidnapped and sold to sex slave markets simply because you were too foolish to see beyond your nose.


how the **** can people like you not realise that this isnt some philosophical question with no consequence.

Your a filthy hypocrite.

Your sitting here, arguing on internet forums, crying out "WHY DOESN'T SOMEBODY DO SOMETHING?!?"

... Because sitting at your computer with a coke in your hand whacking off to pr0n whilst you figure out something "witty" to say REALLY helps the world become a better place eh?

DONT YOU REALISE THAT LITTLE ASIAN GIRLS ARE HUMAN BEINGS AND DONT DESERVE BEIN RAPED AND PROSTITUTED SINCE THEY WERE 5 YEARS OLD?
[/QUOTE]

Why NO Of course I've never realised, how foolish of me :rolleyes:

Grow up, the world around you isn't quite as black and white as you think. This has been going on since our species was in it's infancy. prostitution: the oldest trade in the world and all that.

I'm not saying I agree with it, hell it's a horrible, abhorrent thing. However sitting here moaning about it won't help anything. I believe GreyHam posted a link before? I suggest you click on it.

[Charlie Daniels]

no ur the hypocrit.

and p.s. i am not sitting here thinking of witty things to say. this is a serious issue i feel strongly about., if u think little girls being raped is funny that makes u a sicko freak

[Woundweaver]

no ur the hypocrit.

Care to elaborate? Your one step away from "I am rubber you are glue" here, or calling me a "phag" and running off into the night giggling.

and p.s. i am not sitting here thinking of witty things to say.

This much is clear.

And no, i'm not sitting there chuckling at the idea of little girls being raped, I'm simply pointing out that it's a much more complex issue than you're making out. Smarter and better people than you have spent a long time trying to stop this, so stop thinking you have all the answers like a 14 year old kid.

[Charlie Daniels]

i'm not saying i hav all the answers. what im commenting on is how people ignore the plights of thousands of "slitty-eyed gooks" who are sharing the same fate as madeline somethingorother.

u don't see no celebrities offering rewards for the return of jang ching wong being returned to her family or nothing.

it clearly shows that white westerners have little, if any, empathy for people of a different race.

[Woundweaver]

You keep making these "slitty eyed gook" references. I can't say I hear this being directed towards anyone of asian origin particularly often. And it doesn't do all that much favour towards your argument.


I've already outlined my opinions on why most people living in a media intensive country are desensitised to this sort of activity.

It's exactly the same as terrorism in iraq and my own country (and yours for that matter) we hear about bombings in Bahbdad what? At LEAST once a week, possibly more often. Yet as soon as there's a bombing on home soil, theres hell to pay. Yest it's silly, a human life is a human life. However people don't work like that, the closer it is to home the more you take notice.

[MattyBlade]

excuse me, wouldnt that fit into the categry of discrimination?



RACIAL discrimination. :rolleyes: some of the things you say are relatively smart, then you come back and say redundant things like this.

[GreyHam]

well i do try, although its safe to say i do quite a few things without really thinking them through...


CD, your being really forceful with your opinion and thats the kind of attitude that can really alienate people from what it is that you say. regardless of what you may think, i completely agree with you that, if people are letting certain people suffer because of their race, thats completely wrong, but throwing accusations like racist around just because people havent agreed with what youve said isnt going to give any strength to your argument

also

it clearly shows that white westerners have little, if any, empathy for people of a different race.
please dont make gross generalisations like this