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IbanezArtist
05-06-2007, 04:20 PM
*http://www.ontheissues.org/default.htm


Granted, elections are a ways away, but THIS* site should be required reading prior to approaching the polls.

Last Sunday I overheard a customer conversation about the GOP nominees. I can't remember all of it, but I was really dissappointed to hear grown adults debating exclusively about the candidates' personalities and appearances without so much as the slightest mention of issues. In prior elections, I remember people not wanting to vote for Gore because he was too boring.

For those of us who have interests beyond the soap opera qualities of the candidates, the site linked above contains excerpts and summaries of the candidates' views on what really matters: the issues.





I liked Obama's Education Ideas.
Guarantee affordable life-long, top-notch education. (Jun 2006)
Sponsored legislations that recruit and reward good teachers. (Sep 2004)
Provide decent funding and get rid of anti-intellectualism. (Jul 2004)
Address the growing achievement gap between students. (May 2004)
Will add 25,000 teachers in high-need areas. (May 2004)
Supports charter schools and private investment in schools. (Jul 1998)
Free public college for any student with B-average. (Jul 1998)
Voted YES on $52M for "21st century community learning centers". (Oct 2005)
Voted YES on $5B for grants to local educational agencies. (Oct 2005)
Voted YES on shifting $11B from corporate tax loopholes to education. (Mar 2005)



Discuss views of your favorite candidates/voting over superficial things:

corb
05-07-2007, 03:06 AM
I'm leaning towards Mitt Romney. Only thing I'm not to sure about is his abortion stance. Honestly, it seems a bit confusing what he's really for. I really do like some of Obama's education ideas too, though.

griftadan
05-07-2007, 03:25 AM
ron paul ftw. i first i didn't think he stood a chance in the primaries, but after the first republican deabte a majority of the people on msnbc thought he won.

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=RonPaul2008dotcom

i like this guy more and more everytime i see him speak.

he seems the most consistent and honest out of all the candidates, voted agianst the iraq war and the patriot act... one of the few people in congress who understands the importance of federalism.

Iskandar
05-07-2007, 03:31 AM
I wish America were a place where a man like Russ Feingold would feel confident running for president. All I have to say right now.

ringworm
05-07-2007, 08:11 AM
For those of us who have interests beyond the soap opera qualities of the candidates, the site linked above contains excerpts and summaries of the candidates' views on what really matters: the issues.
yeah, go on thinking that debated topics Politicians concentrate on during the PRE-election phase actually get dealt with once in offfice, but this is still a decent site to begin basing your decision on

Voted YES on shifting $11B from corporate tax loopholes to education. (Mar 2005)
But that still leaves corporate loopholes?
Why not vote NO on corporate loopholes :)

EinzingerIsGod
05-07-2007, 09:37 AM
I'm leaning towards Mitt Romney. Only thing I'm not to sure about is his abortion stance. Honestly, it seems a bit confusing what he's really for. I really do like some of Obama's education ideas too, though.

Ughhhh no. He sucked as governor here. He won't be any better as President.

HazMatBlue
05-07-2007, 10:55 AM
i like that education stuff by Obama there, but I lean more towards McCain I think, somebody anti-abortion, but elections are a ways off I probably wont worry too much until this time next year.

spitfirejunky
05-07-2007, 01:31 PM
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y67/spitfirejunky/results.png

Hmmm...

ringworm
05-07-2007, 01:47 PM
Does this mean national health care like Canada or something else?
More federal funding for health coverage

I took the quiz
(1)Bill Richardson
(2)Duncan Hunter
(3)Sam Brownback
(4)Mitt Romney
(5)John McCain

Hilary, Barack and Al Sharpton, thankfully were at the bottom of that pile-up :)

Iscariot
05-07-2007, 01:52 PM
tbh a candidates promises concerning issues of debate are pretty much worthless because once they get into office hardly any of those issues will ever actually be addressed

Akira
05-07-2007, 02:58 PM
Dodd, Kucinich, and Sharpton all tied for first at %55.

I don't even know who Dodd is.

Der Übermensch
05-07-2007, 03:36 PM
Kucinich wins at 50%.

He's a cool guy. I went to see him speak during the '04 campaigning.

griftadan
05-07-2007, 03:51 PM
tbh a candidates promises concerning issues of debate are pretty much worthless because once they get into office hardly any of those issues will ever actually be addressed

i like looking at voting records, which is why i'm voting for ron paul

Der Übermensch
05-07-2007, 04:06 PM
I would consider voting Ron Paul if he actually got the nomination. I don't agree with everything he does, but he does generally have great respect for civil liberties.

griftadan
05-07-2007, 04:11 PM
he got a pretty large boost after the MSNBC debate

Der Übermensch
05-07-2007, 04:14 PM
So I have heard. He's a long shot overall though I think.