Happy May Day!

[Der Übermensch]

Workers of the world Unite!!!

:chug:


:rolleyes:

[GreyHam]

ive refused to do any work today

although i shold - ive another essay due in on thursday

[lfantwister]

i just got back from work :(

[Der Übermensch]

Jeez... way to completly ruin the holiday :(

Fight the System!!!

:rolleyes:

[TojesDolan]

I have to work at my uni labs otherwise I fail.

Sup with that.

The public transportation is still working. Poor public transportation workers. :(

[Iskandar]

Debout, les damnés de la terre
Debout, les forçats de la faim
La raison tonne en son cratère
C'est l'éruption de la fin
Du passé faisons table rase
Foules, esclaves, debout, debout
Le monde va changer de base
Nous ne sommes rien, soyons tout
C'est la lutte finale
Groupons-nous, et demain
L'Internationale
Sera le genre humain

I forgot it was May Day.

[Der Übermensch]

I celebrated by being lazy :)

[Volumnius Flush]

I don't have to work. I am about to be going to school full time, four weeks from today. My goal is a Ph. B. and then off to Baylor Law.

[peeted]

I celebrated by writing an essay about Marx :)

[Seafroggys]

What do I get to do on May Day?

Work at Target :(

[Der Übermensch]

I don't have to work. I am about to be going to school full time, four weeks from today. My goal is a Ph. B. and then off to Baylor Law.

Don't you mean you can't work, since you are on disability, sucking at the socialist teat of the state?

[Volumnius Flush]

Don't you mean you can't work, since you are on disability, sucking at the socialist teat of the state?

Oh yeah, that too. And I thought an elitist like you would remind me how ridiculously high I've set my goals with an IQ of a miserable 121, to obtain a bachelor in philosophy and finally acquire a J.D. to begin my law practice? But maybe I don't give you enough credit.

[Der Übermensch]

I won't make fun of your dreams... just the awsome irony of you're circumstances :)

And I'm not an elitist, just an occasional asshole :chug:

[pedro durruti]

Today I will be WORKING on an essay from a standpoint with MARXIST elements. Happy May Day, comrades!

[peeted]

IQ of a miserable 121
iq means nothing.

[Iskandar]

Today I will be WORKING on an essay from a standpoint with MARXIST elements. Happy May Day, comrades!Lots of comrades in this thread.

[spitfirejunky]

Sup kkkkkkkomrades.

[Iskandar]

We're just discussing the best way to bring down the System from the inside.

[spitfirejunky]

Kool. I'll go weave some red flags.

[VomitStainedCretin]

May Day sucked this year. :(

[Lydisk]

may day i partied for 13 hours straight.

:cool:

[suspect]

I got drunk, high and otherwise did nothing. Just as a worker should.

(lydisk=russ også?)

[Seafroggys]

Man, May Day has become Illegal Immigrants Rights day.

**** that ****, I want the Proletariat to rise up again!

[Smokey D]

Why would the proles be against immigrant workers, necessarily?

[lfantwister]

Why would the proles be against immigrant workers, necessarily?
Illegal immigrants take their jobs bc they can do it for so much cheaper. THey undermine the power of unions

[Reaganista]

unions that dont gladly embrace illegal immigrants and any other proletarians are not real representatives of the people and morally no different from medieval guilds or monopolist corporations imo

[Der Übermensch]

unions that dont gladly embrace illegal immigrants and any other proletarians are not real representatives of the people and morally no different from medieval guilds or monopolist corporations imo
I beg to differ. Unions aren't representatives of the people... they are represntatives of a certain group of people who work in a specific skill area, and works to protect those people from negative competition, which is what illegal immigrants are.

[Lydisk]

I got drunk, high and otherwise did nothing. Just as a worker should.

(lydisk=russ også?)

yep :chug:

[Reaganista]

maybe a craft union

which is deplorable

[Der Übermensch]

Any union's purpose is Job Protection. Illigal immigration is a threat to those jobs...

[pedro durruti]

But aren't unions, at least initially, meant to protect the working class, no matter where they come from?

[Der Übermensch]

No, they were meant to protect those who were working.

[pedro durruti]

Which included, and continues to include, immigrants.

[Reaganista]

No, they were meant to protect those who were working.

which is of course why labor unions were the first providers of unemployment insurance

[Der Übermensch]

For members who had lost their job... not people who were potential encroachers on their employment...

Which included, and continues to include, immigrants.
Yes... Legal ones though.

[Reaganista]

For members who had lost their job... not people who were potential encroachers on their employment...
well that's right

except for the part where they had to have a job to be a member

and the rest too

[Der Übermensch]

Trade Unions have ALWAYS been restrictive in their membership.

Would unions provide benefits for scabs?

No. And thats what illegal immigrants are comparable to.

[Reaganista]

Trade Unions have ALWAYS been restrictive in their membership.

no

only the awful ones that arent real representatives of labor


No. And thats what illegal immigrants are comparable to.
um

only if they crossed a picket line

[Der Übermensch]

only the awful ones that arent real representatives of labor
Show me one labot union that ANYONE can join.

only if they crossed a picket line
Illegal immigrants are willing to work harder, for less pay... often under minimum wage. By virtue of their status, they are a threat to legal workers. Illegals don't need to cross a picket line to be a scab... they scab all the time.

[pedro durruti]

Unions should help them though, and prevent them from becoming scabs, because they are laborers who need work just as desparately as national laborers, and probably more given their circumstances as an illegal.

[Der Übermensch]

But, given the fact they are illegal, they can't join a Union, as doing so would probably result in their deportation...

So at best, it's a Catch-22.

[pedro durruti]

I know, that's why they should fight for their citizenship.

[Der Übermensch]

Why would a Union fight to allow more people into the Job Market? It defeats the whole ****ing purpose, which is collective bargining and JOB PROTECTION!!!

[pedro durruti]

I just think they should take an internationalist approach.

[Der Übermensch]

Well start a Union for it then, cause I don't think any current one would ever even consider it...

[pedro durruti]

Why not?

[Der Übermensch]

Have you payed attention to anything I said?

[pedro durruti]

I guess not.. No matter what, jobs are lost. Illegals steal jobs because they lower production costs, while legals absorb them because they raise production costs.

[Der Übermensch]

But legal immigrants have to compete on a more level playing field, so are less of a threat.

[Reaganista]

Show me one labot union that ANYONE can join.

IWW

Illegal immigrants are willing to work harder, for less pay... often under minimum wage. By virtue of their status, they are a threat to legal workers. Illegals don't need to cross a picket line to be a scab... they scab all the time.
dey took ur JAWB!!!!!

[Der Übermensch]

Wobblies don't count...

[Reaganista]

wobblies are the only american group i can think of that does count imo

[Der Übermensch]

The Wobblies are a joke now... A relic of the early 20th century. I believe there are less than 2000 members left in the whole world...
They are politcally irrelevant.

[Reaganista]

all unions are politically irrelevant

but i was referring to the 200,000 member IWW

you know from before the palmer raids

back when there was a labor movement

[Der Übermensch]

Illegal immigration wasn't a political issue then...

[Reaganista]

/boggle

illegal immigration has been an issue for over 100 years

[Der Übermensch]

Sure, there were illegal imigrants, but it wasn't at any great volume. 100 years ago, there were almost no limits on immigration (unless you were "Yellow"). Most people then came as legal immigrants cause it was so easy.