AFI (A Fire Inside)

[Ganondorf]

I've been listening to ''The Art of Drowning'' recently, awesome album. Discuss them here.

Also, ''Love Like Winter'' is suprisingly good.

[Ganondorf]

Someone edit the thread title to make it all capitals.

[B]

Old stuff is great. A few mediocre songs but overall really good.

Newest cd is terrible.

[Cocaine]

I'm a big fan of everything that came before Sing the Sorrow, which is moderately tolerable I guess.

Decemberunderground is almost as much of as joke as the new "Blaqk Audio" project, or whatever it's called.

[nobodyblossomsforever]

I think Decemberunderground was okay, it's just so different compared to the older AFI. Not terrible in my opinion. I like the All Hallows EP, I could listen to "The Boy Who Destroyed the World" all day, seriously.

[Cocaine]

Damn, I totally forgot about that EP and song. It was probably my favourite at one point in time.

[The Jungler]

AFI is tolerable, though I don't have much pre-StS stuff. Blaqk Audio is terrible.

[Dave de Sylvia]

Someone edit the thread title to make it all capitals.
It filters out all-caps, this is the best I could do.

AFI are one of my favourite bands. I prefer the new material over the old stuff but I suppose I would. Sing The Sorrow is by far their most accomplished effort, but Decemberunderground is a great album too.

Blaqk Audio is terrible.
It's hard to judge based on one song, surely?

[nobodyblossomsforever]

I decided to listen to Decemberunderground since it's been a while, the intro song makes me laugh ^_^

I can almost say Very Proud Of Ya is my favorite album.

[ZaaR]

all hallows ep is definately the best disc they've ever released. i saw them last october with DEP and it was one of the most fun shows i've ever been to. they're really good live

[Mute Print]

Old stuff is great. A few mediocre songs but overall really good.
This.

I like the newer stuff too though.

[form]

i like all their **** =

[lunchforthesky]

Black Sails and Art of Drowning are the only AFI full lengths worth bothering with.

[B]

Black Sails and Art of Drowning are the only AFI full lengths worth bothering with.

They're my favourite but I do enjoy the others.

The EPs are excellent IMO.

I've always had a thing for these guys and the Ataris though.

[lunchforthesky]

I always like the Ataris but they didnt become an annoying TRL mainstay like AFI.

I dont like how nine out of ten AFI songs have a whoa oh oh in them somewhere.

[B]

haha "woahs" are great :p

lots of bands incorperate "woahs" into their sound aha.

like offspring I think.

[lunchforthesky]

They have their uses but when most of your songs have them, you kinda know ideas are a little thin on the ground.

[Concubine]

tell that to The Misfits

[CommieCanada]

good stuff

i like all of their work

[Ganondorf]

I downloaded ''Black Sails in the Sunset'' ages ago, I should really give it a proper listen/.....better of worse than ''The Art of Drowning''?

[Ganondorf]

Ok, Black Sails.... is awesome, I have a question about the track listing though.

On mine, track 9 is ''Weathered Tome'' (2:13), while track 10 is ''The Last Kiss'' (3:02), but I've ehard they're suppsoed to be the other way round or something.....?

[irtehmitchell]

Shut Your Mouth and Open Your Eyes is my favorite full length of theirs. All Hallows EP is by far the best thing they have released.

[RetiredAt21]

All Hollows EP and Black Sails... FTW.

[Gnarmageddon]

Ok, Black Sails.... is awesome, I have a question about the track listing though.

On mine, track 9 is ''Weathered Tome'' (2:13), while track 10 is ''The Last Kiss'' (3:02), but I've ehard they're suppsoed to be the other way round or something.....?
Yeah, they messed that up.

I used to be obsessed with them, and then they went mall goth and I quit listening to them. They're horrible now.

[Firecracker]

Black Sails In The Sunset is way the best album they've done.

[clairvoyant]

I love all AFI, old and new.

Black Sails is simply amazing, so is Art of Drowning.

They are one of the few bands that has changed their sound drastically and I've still enjoyed them...

[Ganondorf]

Yeah, they messed that up.

I used to be obsessed with them, and then they went mall goth and I quit listening to them. They're horrible now.

So do I switch the tracks themselves around or just the names?

[Gnarmageddon]

So do I switch the tracks themselves around or just the names?
It doesn't really matter.

[A Spoonful Supreme]

Art of drowning was my fav, havnt even bothered to listen to the newest one

[margin0walker]

Their old stuff is ace but their new stuff is crap.

[margin0walker]

yeah i downloaded Black Sails In The Sunset and The Art Of Drowning for nostalgias sake and rediscovered how ace these are.

[Grohlthegreat]

i dont really enjoy afi much...

[nobodyblossomsforever]

Yeah, they messed that up.

I used to be obsessed with them, and then they went mall goth and I quit listening to them. They're horrible now.

I think it was a pretty sudden change, but it still entertains me. They could do without the gay wardrobe though.

[hey, you're not cory!]

Decemberunderground = Sing the Sorrow = Art of Drowning > Everything else

[Concubine]

Decemberunderground = Sing the Sorrow = Art of Drowning > Everything else

You can't be serious

[hey, you're not cory!]

Eh, I don't care enough about them to really dissect their discography.

But I like Decemberunderground a lot and I don't really like their old stuff.

[lunchforthesky]

I could of seen them yesterday but i left after Jimmy Eat World to get Chinese.

[Elliptical Ion]

All Hallows Ep > All other AFI

[hey, you're not cory!]

I could of seen them yesterday but i left after Jimmy Eat World to get Chinese.

Oh man, they're a really good live show.

No doubt better than JEW.

[Ganondorf]

I could of seen them yesterday but i left after Jimmy Eat World to get Chinese.

You go Give It A Name then I take it?

[lunchforthesky]

You go Give It A Name then I take it?

Yeah it was rather good.

Especially Brand New, JEW and suprisingly Sparta.

[thomas is fast]

No mention of Answer That and Stay Fashionable? That's by far my favorite album of theirs.

[B]

Sparta is good.

[hey, you're not cory!]

Sparta live is da bomb.

Definitly my second or third best concert.

[lunchforthesky]

Sparta is good.

I'd heard a few songs but nothing had grabbed me but live they were flawless, definately made me want to check them out in the future.

[B]

Yeah they get boring on record but they're fun to listen to once in a while.

I would imagine they would be good live considering the band consists of half of ATD-I.

[Ganondorf]

Yeah it was rather good.

Especially Brand New, JEW and suprisingly Sparta.

Yeah man I went on the Saturday in London, Brand New were awesome. Loads of people didn't like it though.....

New Found Glory were wicked as well, I used to listen to them loads and I was surprised at how many of the songs I knew the words to :p

[B]

Apparently they played way too much new stuff.

I wouldn't care to see Brand New if they played mostly new stuff tbqh.

[lunchforthesky]

Yeah man I went on the Saturday in London, Brand New were awesome. Loads of people didn't like it though.....

New Found Glory were wicked as well, I used to listen to them loads and I was surprised at how many of the songs I knew the words to :p

Yeah i went London too.

The Devil and God is my favourite Brand New album so i was perfectly happy with them only playing songs from it.

It doesn't suprise me that a lot of people didnt like them, cause well its Give It A Name so i dont expect people with good taste :p

NFG were great, im seeing them on Wednesday too.

[Ganondorf]

Yeah the whole set was new stuff when i saw them, but I didn't mind because I like the new stuff. Would've been nice to see a couple of older songs, especially Seventy Times 7 and Okay I Believe You.....

[Ganondorf]

I think part of the reason why Brand New weren't so popular was because the whole day was full of upbeat bands, whereas Brand New's new album is anything but upbeat.

Who were all the guys who played in the Welcome to Bangkok finale? One of them was Kevin Devine yeah?

[lunchforthesky]

Yeah Kevin Devine was one and then **** knows with the rest.

Tech Guys maybe?

I Didn't recognise them from other bands.

[Ganondorf]

Ah ok then. What was the song New Found Glory played leading into My Friends Over You, I assume it was some kind of cover?

Also did you see Senses Fail get bottled with ketchup?!

And Kids in Glass Houses covering Refused - New Noise?

[B]

Sick covers are so fun.

[Ganondorf]

This cover wasn't all that great, the singer of Kids In Glass Houses shouldn't be asking ''Can I scream?!?!'', because he can't.

[lunchforthesky]

Ah ok then. What was the song New Found Glory played leading into My Friends Over You, I assume it was some kind of cover?

Also did you see Senses Fail get bottled with ketchup?!

And Kids in Glass Houses covering Refused - New Noise?

Nope it was the intro from Catalyst. For some reason they put a hardcore song at the start of that record and they always play it live.

[slep]

I didn't like Decemberunderground, and I think people overrate Sing the Sorrow (though it's still good),but I still love AFI. Their first few albums are really great, with Very Proud of Ya and Black Sails in the Sunset, being the best.

[punkerdan]

i thought people who like AFI´s old stuff, all started to hate them once they were on MTV and Davey Havok turned into a women. well least thats how it was for me

I like the old cds that everyone mentioned, art of drowning was sick, and the song 6-8 had the best ´´woahs´´ in it.

[Ross]

Answer That and Stay Fashionable for the win. Great CD, even better title ^^
I love Sing The Sorrow too, but to be honest I like most their stuff. ATASF is my favourite though.

That Refused cover sounds comical. Refused are fücking dead.

[RetiredAt21]

I thought Sing The Sorrow was horrible. Made me not listen to them for a REALLY long time.

[Dave de Sylvia]

What don't you like about it?

[Ganondorf]

I liked some songs on it, mainly Death of Seasons and Dancing Through Sunday.

[RetiredAt21]

What don't you like about it?

I just didn't like the sound they were going for. I liked the Art Of Drowning quite a bit, but Sing The Sorrow just didn't click with me.

[B]

I didn't mind StS some songs are okay.

[an0therface]

I used to love this band. Answer That... is my favourite and one of my very favourite albums of all time. Your Name Here is a sick song.

Art Of Drowning is also great, very intense sound.

I lost interest after STS. I would have loved to have seen them some stage up until around Art Of Drowning era, so much live energy from the videos I've seen.

[Woundeffigy]

I just went last monday to see these guys at V-fest in vancouver, and I must say that they are gods. they definately have a presence when that have a live show, and put ALOT of effort into what they do. A band who has been around for a while tends to not play there old stuff, and AFI doesnt really play there old stuff, but they played alot of there old stuff at the festival and it was a good surprise. I just wish they would tour vancouver alot more instead of once every 5 years.

[RetiredAt21]

If they don't play their old stuff at shows, then I don't give a **** about them. They need to stop stuffing their new crap down our throats. Give us what we want. Play some old songs for the love of ****.

[Dave de Sylvia]

There's only like four people who want the old songs and they don't matter.

[Ganondorf]

Old stuff as in their hardcore stuff or their mid-era stuff?

[RetiredAt21]

Old stuff as in their hardcore stuff or their mid-era stuff?

Anything pre-STS.

[RetiredAt21]

There's only like four people who want the old songs and they don't matter.

Only four people? Yeah right. You always a dick, bro?

[hey, you're not cory!]

Haha, you're kind of a dick too man.

The only good albums pre-StS are "Black Sails..." and "Art of Drowning"

"All Hallows EP" is good too, I was just going by full lengthes.

But just buying their AFI compelation was satisfactory for me. I have a copy of AoD too.

[RetiredAt21]

Anyone with common sense likes the old stuff better.

[cobert]

I dig some of the old stuff.

The later stuff, not so much.

[RetiredAt21]

I dig some of the old stuff.

The later stuff, not so much.

Word. What old stuff in particular?

[Grohlthegreat]

someone send some older AFI stuff to du (anything pre-sts)

[Ganondorf]

The best era of AFI is Black Sails/Art Of Drowning. They should play stuff from those two albums.

[ZaaR]

all hallows is their best release

[cobert]

Word. What old stuff in particular?

Random songs Ive heard off of Answer That, Black Sails, and All Hallows.

[Virus278]

someone send some older AFI stuff to du (anything pre-sts)

I'll send in some stuff. Do you have any preference at all of which specific album(s) I send in?

[an0therface]

I'm backing the "older stuff" side here.

As far as I'm concerned it's not even the same band pre-STS/post-STS I mean.

I saw them in '03 I think and they still hardly played any ATASF-SYMAOYE era songs(I think maybe 2 or 3 songs) . It was disappointing, seeing as they had never toured here before that.

[yourstruly]

I saw them last year in November. They only played songs from Sing the Sorrow and Decemberunderground. I like both of those albums, but it would have been cool if they played some of their earlier stuff.

[Dum Dum Boy]

Over the top hairtossing histrionics and Misfits aping does not a good band make.

You may now commence flaming.

[GhostPhase310]

i could go on and on about this band for days.
The best Band live....period.
seen them 20+times and every time its a new experience.
The album Black Sails and Sing The Sorrow are the standouts to me.

[margin0walker]

The Art of Drowning and Black Sails... are the ****ing jam

[albert_bass]

Ok I'll tell you the ultimate truth.

Afi pre-Black sails is cool, fast, angry and definately good old-school-ish hardcore music. It's too repetitive though, but that doesn't make it less cool.

Black sails and Art of Drowning are the highlights of the band. Melodic hardcore at it's finest, technical fast awesome bass lines and all in all amazing music.

Sing the sorrow was a major change again to some Rock/Post hardcore thingy. It was a risky move for them, but it went over really well. It is tyring after lots of listens unlike its two predecessors but it's a really solid album and it was great to see them changing their sound in such a good way.

Then they released Decemberunderground which mostly sucks. It has some decent songs but none of them last for long and the production is horrible at best.

So there that is the ultimate truth about AFI and remember, everything you just read is just an opinion.

[B]

its all true though, opinion or not/

[margin0walker]

Ok I'll tell you the ultimate truth.

Afi pre-Black sails is cool, fast, angry and definately good old-school-ish hardcore music. It's too repetitive though, but that doesn't make it less cool.

Black sails and Art of Drowning are the highlights of the band. Melodic hardcore at it's finest, technical fast awesome bass lines and all in all amazing music.

Sing the sorrow was a major change again to some Rock/Post hardcore thingy. It was a risky move for them, but it went over really well. It is tyring after lots of listens unlike its two predecessors but it's a really solid album and it was great to see them changing their sound in such a good way.

Then they released Decemberunderground which mostly sucks. It has some decent songs but none of them last for long and the production is horrible at best.

So there that is the ultimate truth about AFI and remember, everything you just read is just an opinion.

shut up dude, sing the sorrow ****ing sucks

[yourstruly]

if you're that myopic, then yeah it does.

[albert_bass]

shut up dude, sing the sorrow ****ing sucks

That's your opinion, and man that's what sucks in this case. No offense but you can't come here and tell me to shut up just because I think differently than you. Also, you should go to the ear doctor if you think STS is musically crap.

[margin0walker]

im just saying shut up to the fact that you said that what you wrote there is the ultimate truth, which it is clearly not

[DJ Ducksauce]

Did you not read the last sentence?

[RetiredAt21]

Sing The Sorrow and the new one REALLY suck. AFI should apologize to all of their fans.

[yourstruly]

for growing artistically and not wanting to play the same music their entire lives, just to please a bunch of their narrow-minded "fans"?

[margin0walker]

for growing artistically and not wanting to play the same music their entire lives, just to please a bunch of their narrow-minded "fans"?

hahahahahahahahahaha

[albert_bass]

Here, see the difference between people who can read and people who can't, you know, wars have been started for things like these.

im just saying shut up to the fact that you said that what you wrote there is the ultimate truth, which it is clearly not

Did you not read the last sentence?

[The Chemist]

I actually like StS.

But my fav would be Answer That...

[margin0walker]

Here, see the difference between people who can read and people who can't, you know, wars have been started for things like these.

you called what you wrote the ultimate truth, which implies that it is not an opinion, since it is the ultimate truth, and then you say that everything you read is an opinion, while a sentence before you said that what you wrote was the ultimate truth.

[Virus278]

you called what you wrote the ultimate truth, which implies that it is not an opinion, since it is the ultimate truth, and then you say that everything you read is an opinion, while a sentence before you said that what you wrote was the ultimate truth.

For the love of **** - let it go.

[Dave de Sylvia]

For the love of **** - let it go.
No. He needs to humiliate himself in order to learn.

[albert_bass]

you called what you wrote the ultimate truth, which implies that it is not an opinion, since it is the ultimate truth, and then you say that everything you read is an opinion, while a sentence before you said that what you wrote was the ultimate truth.

Do you even know what a joke is about?

One kind of joke is when you say something then another just to confuse, watch out for jokes in movies, comics, maybe you'll see the paralelism. If you don't I might be able to clarify it to you.

Hell, I come back for just one post and see where it leads? These forums are like a drug.

[Mute Print]

Hahaha, Albert rules.

And margin0walker is clearly brain dead.

[cobert]

I back Al anytime anyplace.

[B]

Hell, I come back for just one post and see where it leads? These forums are like a drug.
big 123

[margin0walker]

And margin0walker is clearly brain dead.

clearly

[albert_bass]

Hey guys, nice to see you all too.

[yourstruly]

hahahahahahahahahahayou're a douche.

[ThePalaceOfWisdom]

Sing The Sorrow and the new one REALLY suck. AFI should apologize to all of their fans.

maybe if their fans weren't annoying hardcore fans like you they wouldn't need to apologize because fans would respect their choice, just remember its their muisc not yours.

[benerooni]

maybe if their fans weren't annoying hardcore fans like you they wouldn't need to apologize because fans would respect their choice, just remember its their muisc not yours.

oh i find this ironic yes i do.

[Firecracker]

I wanted my band to play something from All Hallows EP for hallowe'en, but instead we're dressing up as slipknot and playing 'duality'.
GOOD TIMES.