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nobodyblossomsforever
04-24-2007, 10:28 PM
I want to uhm maybe to eliminate the many band threads that pop up every day or so that only get like 13 or so posts have some genre threads. Like Post-Hardcore, Ska, Power Pop, Screamo, Pop Rock, etc. and have bands that fall under the category be discussed there. Maybe have some discussion on the said genre. Have a definitive list of all bands that fall under the genre.

CRAZY I know but what is it going to kill? I think it's a good idea. You guys will probably think it's pointless/useless. Eh well, what do you guys think? Want to? Don't want to? Tell me your thoughts. Or don't. Or whatever. :-\

EDIT: Also because I'm not that savvy with genres I would like such threads to exist so maybe I can be more savvy. Maybe other's will too. Maybe people will become intelligent, or learn something even. Misleading sites like Wikipedia aren't helping anyone. So yeah.

lunchforthesky
04-24-2007, 10:40 PM
I think that would be a good idea.

Especially if Vince could sticky them.

MattSharpIsCool
04-24-2007, 10:43 PM
Not a bad idea. A large portion of people in this forum listen to bands that fall under those genres, and it would be nice to talk about them with the rest of our community here.

But, there are already other forums dedicated to those genres specifically.

So eh, either way.

lunchforthesky
04-24-2007, 10:54 PM
Most of the interesting/cool people who post here listen to very little pop punk anyway.

lunchforthesky
04-24-2007, 10:56 PM
Especially with something like hardcore/emo people are reluctant to go to the relevant forum about it for obvious reasons so it would be cool to talk to people who post here about it.

Permanent Solution
04-24-2007, 11:10 PM
I'd prefer this: Lets do the Featured Genres as suggested before, and that thread will become an official discussion thread for the genre. No stickies though...I don't want half a page of stickies.

Angry Balled Fists!
04-25-2007, 02:35 AM
thats so dumb why dont you just go in the forums under the correct genre :S :S :S

nobodyblossomsforever
04-25-2007, 07:10 AM
There are a few genres that don't have their own forum. Discussing those in the Other Music forum is boring because nobody really posts there. Hardcore/Emo has a lot of jerk-offs there, same with Punk.

We should go with Vince's suggestion and do Featured Genres, and actually have discussion go on in there, rather than posts that say nothing more than "Great write up! rep++". It's not about getting rep, it's about discussing music that you like with other people that share the same interest, and having small band threads that nobody posts in just isn't cutting it. :-P

lunchforthesky
04-25-2007, 07:11 AM
Problem is someone has to write the featured genre and that takes effort, so will fail for the same reason featured artists fail.

nobodyblossomsforever
04-25-2007, 07:15 AM
I've been meaning to write an FA since last week, but I was gone for a musical competition for 3 days, then the ladyfriend wanted to hang out the rest of the day, then I have school to deal with and work to make up from being gone those days, so I haven't had the time.

Anyway what should be listed now are the genre's that would be thread worthy.

lunchforthesky
04-25-2007, 07:27 AM
Classic Metal
Modern Metal
Hardcore
Emo
Indie/Alternative
Post Rock
Classic Bands

They all seem to be relatively popular around here.

Bad Blood
04-25-2007, 11:18 AM
haha why would you do that?

this is pop punk go to other forums to talk about other genres, otherwise what would this forum be? "pop punk and other genres"?

lol

uhhhhh

nay

i love you greg :-*

Permanent Solution
04-25-2007, 12:10 PM
Problem is someone has to write the featured genre and that takes effort, so will fail for the same reason featured artists fail.
If people aren't willing to put in an hour or two of work to better their own knowledge of a genre and then share then I don't see why we're even bothering discussing this because no one will learn if we just start a genre thread.

I think I'm going to stick to these threads needing to be FG's with fairly solid introductory writeups in the first post.
Classic Metal
Modern Metal
Hardcore
Emo
Indie/Alternative
Post Rock
Classic Bands

They all seem to be relatively popular around here.
I'm going to pare that down a lot because I don't want half a dozen official threads, plus band threads. Metal, HC/E, Indie is what I'm thinking.

Broader discussion encourages diversity too.

lunchforthesky
04-25-2007, 12:15 PM
If people aren't willing to put in an hour or two of work to better their own knowledge of a genre and then share then I don't see why we're even bothering discussing this because no one will learn if we just start a genre thread.

I'm working on a post rock FG, i just need to get round to completing it. Might do it tonight actually.


I'm going to pare that down a lot because I don't want half a dozen official threads, plus band threads. Metal, HC/E, Indie is what I'm thinking.

Broader discussion encourages diversity too.

Agreed, that makes more sense.

Bad Blood
04-25-2007, 12:29 PM
whats the point of this

Grohlthegreat
04-25-2007, 01:26 PM
bad blood, i agree.

Angry Balled Fists!
04-25-2007, 01:50 PM
god its so stupid having different genre threads when there are loads of other forums on the other genres stop being a fanny and go into others forums.

Angry Balled Fists!
04-25-2007, 01:51 PM
oh yea and i go to school to learn not mx lol

B
04-25-2007, 03:05 PM
It's a good idea IMO even if just to generate some discussion so we don't look useless.

Dan I wouldn't bother trying your opinion has very little value here now, if any at all.

Bad Blood
04-25-2007, 03:24 PM
hahaha

why doesnt his opinion have any value?

its probably better than most other peoples tbbh

Permanent Solution
04-25-2007, 03:29 PM
If I start enforcing pop punk only discussion only this forum would die because no one here actually likes Pop Punk except like me, Kif, Brian, and a few others.

So if it's going to be discussed I see no reason not to make it organized discussion.

Other forums have this sort of stuff too to a degree so whatev. Shut the hell up basically.

B
04-25-2007, 03:36 PM
Ben:

Because he doesn't post here anymore and we all know he's a crazy man.

lunchforthesky
04-25-2007, 03:50 PM
He does post from time to time it's just never anything remotely constructive.

B
04-25-2007, 03:51 PM
He stopped for a long time.

And yeah, basically but meh I don't care if anyone posts constructive really but I don't see why there's any reason not to do this.

Geography
04-25-2007, 03:54 PM
i come on mx all the time it feels gooood fapfapfap

Permanent Solution
04-25-2007, 03:54 PM
bcuz thers othr frms 4 tht duh lolz

B
04-25-2007, 03:55 PM
bcuz thers othr frms 4 tht duh lolz

lol orly wher r dey i cnt c dem lololol

lunchforthesky
04-25-2007, 03:56 PM
He stopped for a long time.

And yeah, basically but meh I don't care if anyone posts constructive really but I don't see why there's any reason not to do this.

Being a jerk is cool from time to time cause well it's kinda fun, but when every post he makes is just insulting the regulars for no real reason he kinda crosses the line.

Mute Print
04-25-2007, 04:05 PM
I'm not sure I like the idea of featured genres too much. I think it will open the door for a ton of genre debates.

I'd be up for these threads having like brief histories, with short lists of "essential" bands, or something like that, and letting discussion go from there. Basically, offer enough info to inform people who aren't too familiar with the genre, without having so much detail that it sparks a lot of debate and nitpicking.

Permanent Solution
04-25-2007, 04:06 PM
I'm not sure I like the idea of featured genres too much. I think it will open the door for a ton of genre debates.


I'd be up for these threads having like brief histories, with short lists of "essential" bands, or something like that, and letting discussion go from there.

Wait what are the differences between the two that you see there?

B
04-25-2007, 04:10 PM
Just get people banned if they start bitching about genres tbqh.

That'll prevent it.

I don't see much problem if the genre's are like Metal/Indie/HC,E.

and maybe like Post-Rock/Instrumental/Electronic or w/e Lunch is doing.

Mute Print
04-25-2007, 04:10 PM
Wait what are the differences between the two that you see there?
Not a lot. Just some of the FGs I've seen are really long and in-depth.

Basically, as long as the FGs could be short, I'm down. :p

lunchforthesky
04-25-2007, 04:11 PM
Banning people sucks.

There is too much of it on Sputnik in general.

Permanent Solution
04-25-2007, 04:15 PM
Not a lot. Just some of the FGs I've seen are really long and in-depth.

Basically, as long as the FGs could be short, I'm down. :p
Well when I said the FG would be the first post, I meant just the first :p

No one here is motivated enough to do more anyways =\

B
04-25-2007, 04:25 PM
Banning people sucks.

There is too much of it on Sputnik in general.

Nah I think more people should be banned tbqh.

Reduces the faggotry.

lunchforthesky
04-25-2007, 04:27 PM
Everyone knows they can just get another account. How many times had Eliminator been banned or the guys in hardcore/emo, it doesn't exactly put them off doing the same thing again.

Geography
04-25-2007, 04:29 PM
What's up

B
04-25-2007, 04:30 PM
Meh.

I don't understand why you care it was just a suggestion to prevent arguements :/

hai nick

Jessizzle
04-25-2007, 04:33 PM
i call ska thread lol.

lunchforthesky
04-25-2007, 05:02 PM
Meh.

I don't understand why you care it was just a suggestion to prevent arguements :/

hai nick

Its no big deal i just prefer it when mods just let people get on with it.

B
04-25-2007, 05:08 PM
You wouldn't be saying that if the forum was spammed up with ********** and hai2u tbh ^_^

edit:lemon
party.

Jessizzle
04-25-2007, 05:10 PM
can i have ska?

B
04-25-2007, 05:12 PM
I don't think there'd be a ska one tbh.

Most people here aren't that into it and you post in Punk anyways so uh why?

Permanent Solution
04-25-2007, 05:12 PM
I can't decide if I want a ska one. We don't have much ska discussion here anyways =\

Jessizzle
04-25-2007, 05:13 PM
theres two ska threads on the front page...

ltj, big d.

Permanent Solution
04-25-2007, 05:14 PM
I'ma wait and see what Brian thinks before I give a definite answer.

Jessizzle
04-25-2007, 05:15 PM
k cool.
This forum requires that you wait 30 seconds between posts. Please try again in 1 seconds

B
04-25-2007, 05:16 PM
theres two ska threads on the front page...

ltj, big d.

And look at all the sweet discussion about the bands in them :p

There's really no need IMO.

But I'm not a mod so my opinion doesn't matter haha.

lunchforthesky
04-25-2007, 05:17 PM
the only "ska" anyone here likes is Less Than Jake, Capdown, Reel Big Fish and that isnt even ska anyway.

there isn't much point if no-one likes it.

lunchforthesky
04-25-2007, 05:18 PM
You wouldn't be saying that if the forum was spammed up with ********** and hai2u tbh ^_^

edit:lemon
party.

the absolute punk boards are pretty much that and it works fine.

they have like 100x the traffic sputnik does though.

B
04-25-2007, 05:24 PM
the absolute punk boards are pretty much that and it works fine.

they have like 100x the traffic sputnik does though.

Okay it's cool if you like looking at disgusting pictures but I'd rather not really.

Sometimes if I'm feeling kinky though ^_^

Mute Print
04-25-2007, 05:38 PM
1. AbsolutePunk gets a lot more traffic, but it isn't because they don't ban / crack down on spam. :-\


2. I dig ska, but I don't know how many others do. I didn't see any reason why we should put restrictions on which genres can be done, so long as someone wants to do it.


3. No one really likes Capdown except for Brits, of which we have very few. :p


Edit - AP has so many idiots, btw.

Case and point: http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=232235

Permanent Solution
04-25-2007, 05:42 PM
2. I dig ska, but I don't know how many others do. I didn't see any reason why we should put restrictions on which genres can be done, so long as someone wants to do it.
I'll agree but at the same time I'm not going to make all the threads official if we get like 10 little FG threads.

Mute Print
04-25-2007, 05:44 PM
Don't then. Just have them be like FAs. If they die, they die.

B
04-25-2007, 05:45 PM
I'll agree but at the same time I'm not going to make all the threads official if we get like 10 little FG threads.

Yeah they should be somewhat general because getting specific will just make us have like 20 threads floating around.

lunchforthesky
04-25-2007, 05:46 PM
Edit - AP has so many idiots, btw.

Case and point: http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=232235

Posting in that thread which i did for about two hours last night is more than fun than a civil discussion of what our favourite Blink songs are and that is why i post on a forum, to pass the time when i have nothing to do.

cbmartinez
04-25-2007, 06:55 PM
All the genres would be so grossly misrepresented, this would not work.

nobodyblossomsforever
04-25-2007, 08:15 PM
I was mainly hoping that along with organizing what bands are discussed where, it could maybe help people learn what the genre is all about. Like if someone has a question about the genre, it could be answered by someone with knowledge on it.

Even if it doesn't work out, does it hurt to try? :-P

B
04-25-2007, 08:24 PM
There should be a post-rock thread so I can discuss the ultimate genre of music with my bros :D

nobodyblossomsforever
04-25-2007, 08:25 PM
If it wasn't for the fact that there are no mature members in any of the other genre forums I wouldn't have even made this thread. :P

B
04-25-2007, 08:27 PM
If it wasn't for the fact that there are no mature members in any of the other genre forums I wouldn't have even made this thread. :P

I wouldn't say that but I would rather talk about good music with my bros in here tahn some random nubs and fags and the odd okay dude in a different part of the forum.

nobodyblossomsforever
04-25-2007, 08:31 PM
Yeah I'm pretty sure if I tried discussing anything in the other forums everyone would just be all "lolz dey arent hardcore moar like lardcore lolzzzz rep me". :-\

I know there are probably some people in the other forums that aren't retarded but I just don't want to take my chances.

lunchforthesky
04-26-2007, 02:15 AM
All the genres would be so grossly misrepresented, this would not work.

So long as whoever does is 100% sure they know what they are talking about we will be fine.

i.e No one call Underoath a hardcore band etc..

Angry Balled Fists!
04-26-2007, 11:14 AM
oi b that hurt my opinion matters a lot! >: [

cbmartinez
04-26-2007, 11:31 AM
So long as whoever does is 100% sure they know what they are talking about we will be fine.

i.e No one call Underoath a hardcore band etc..

Yeah, well people would still come in and not bother reading the first post, where the definition and examples would be, and just be like, "I think Hawthorne Heights really brings the post hardcore YAH"

Permanent Solution
04-26-2007, 01:03 PM
If people are mature there shouldn't be a huge issue with genres.

If people are immature they can be banned, the regs know better at least.

Simple enough. =)

B
04-26-2007, 01:56 PM
oi b that hurt my opinion matters a lot! >: [
ill fite u >:|

Angry Balled Fists!
04-26-2007, 02:53 PM
lol i'll win m8

B
04-26-2007, 03:11 PM
probably :upset: :(

Bad Blood
04-26-2007, 03:18 PM
kk break it up