ok is children of men any good

[Aria.]

im thinkin about watchin this tonight discuss plz

[Let's Chop Cats!]

awesome movie, the cinematography is sweet. Some people were kind of annoyed with the ending, I didn't mind it a whole lot.

[Zmev]

Good movie this.

[DeckerDontPlay]

Damn I forgot all about this movie I really must see this movie.

[Kage]

Great movie.

[thedeadwalk!]

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=519566&highlight=children

That thread had ok in its title too, though in a different form.

[br3ad_man]

It's excellent.

[Alfyy]

Idk man, I just downloaded it but haven't watched yet. Let me know if it is worth watching.

[Kage]

At the time it was released, it was the best movie to be released into theaters since A History of Violence in my opinion.

[Africa]

i loved it, i made a thred about it

[Zap'Em]

iv never seen it

[Kage]

Thanks for that.

[Africa]

thanks for letting us know

[Zap'Em]

is it good? should i see it?

[Africa]

iv never seen it

[Kage]

You should see it, yeah.

[Pluperfect_Arson]

To be honest, I didn't think it was as great as most people had made it out to be, then the end came. I yelled at my television.

[Kage]

So many people bitch about the ending. The ending was great.

[Pluperfect_Arson]

To be honest, I didn't think the ending was bad. I just really wanted to know what happened. :(

[Africa]

I liked that the movie focused entirely on clive owen, and didnt cut to anybody outside of his characters field of view. It was just a small taste of the world introduced by the movie and i was fine with that, and i was totally fine with the movie ending liek it did because his character died, so the experience ended there, i though it was great

[Kage]

That's a great point, Africa. The audience's journey is Clive Owen's journey, it only makes sense that it ends when his ends. I thought that the fact that it was written that way made it all the more effective and relatable.

[br3ad_man]

The ending is fine. It wasn't terrible and it wasn't amazing, it was just fine.

[Aria.]

k thx for that spoiler btwim not watchin it anymore

[semi]

it's pretty good yeahs

[UpperDecker]

When the chick revealed she was pregnant, was it really necessary to show her funbags? She was covering them right after she revealed them so what was the point?

[thedeadwalk!]

Dude, get over it.

Plus isn't there some link between cows and fertility, at least superstitiously? It was a great visual.

[Pluperfect_Arson]

When the chick revealed she was pregnant, was it really necessary to show her funbags? She was covering them right after she revealed them so what was the point?

I doubt that it would have inspired as much awe and interest had she not shown her breasts. Pregnant women are suppose to be a beautiful thing, and, seeing as she was pregnant in an age of infertility, it was one of the most beautiful things that most had seen in 18 years.

[thomas is fast]

There's been way too many threads on this but:

The cinematography is is fantastic.
The acting is great.
The camera work is unbelievable.
The story line is very good.

So yes, watch it.

[EightMilesHigh]

didn't rlly like it

though that long uncut scene with the shootout in the bombed out building was cool

idk maybe its just not my type of movie

[thomas is fast]

The entire movie had camera work like that.

[exodus]

Looks really good from the previews and the storyline isn't bad but it got a really bad rating on Rottentomatoes with the addition of bad reviews.

[DanD]

the ending wasn't that bad, and the scene when they get attacked in the car was awesome, but the rest of the movie was pretty bad. Some of the righting was horrible, the acting was not that great, and Sid was the equivalent of Jar-Jar Binks

edit: nvm i made a typo therefore my point is invalid

[planewreck]

This was my favorite film of 2006. Fantastic, fantastic.
That's a great point, Africa. The audience's journey is Clive Owen's journey, it only makes sense that it ends when his ends. I thought that the fact that it was written that way made it all the more effective and relatable. This. The ending was perfect, imo. It would have been too long if it had kept going, and they couldn't very well go back. It just hinted at what was to come; the audience didn't really need the closure of knowing for a fact that the world would be okay. He implied it though.

Some of the righting was horrible, the acting was not that great, and Sid was the equivalent of Jar-Jar Binks
er, right.

[Kage]

Looks really good from the previews and the storyline isn't bad but it got a really bad rating on Rottentomatoes with the addition of bad reviews.

It got a 91%.

Besides, who cares? Some of my favorite movies have below 50% on Rottentomatoes.

[thomas is fast]

the ending wasn't that bad, and the scene when they get attacked in the car was awesome, but the rest of the movie was pretty bad. Some of the righting was horrible

I should have stopped reading your post at that.


the acting was not that great, and Sid was the equivalent of Jar-Jar Binks

The acting was excellent. It's to the point where it isn't a matter of opinion...you're just wrong. Sid was in the movie for a total of like 7 minutes.

[The Jungler]

awesome movie, the cinematography is sweet. Some people were kind of annoyed with the ending, I didn't mind it a whole lot.For sure, there's one scene that goes for about 15 minutes without ever switching cameras, I thought that was incredible. Great movie, I actually kind of liked the ending too.

[Kage]

the ending wasn't that bad, and the scene when they get attacked in the car was awesome, but the rest of the movie was pretty bad. Some of the righting was horrible, the acting was not that great, and Sid was the equivalent of Jar-Jar Binks

edit: nvm i made a typo therefore my point is invalid
Explain what was bad about the writing, and how the acting was "not that great" please. I'm willing to hear you out if you've actually got something to say. Anyone can toss around buzz phrases like "bad writing" but let's hear what was bad about it.

[DanD]

I haven't seen the movie since it first came out so I can't remember anything specific, but there where parts where they tried to add humor and jokes that just felt really out of place and I thought did not belong in the movie. As far as the acting goes, in my opinion, I was not that impressed with Clive Owen. I thought that he was pretty emotional less throughout the whole movie. I know that a lot of people will say "but omg dand you fag thats how its suppused to be," but I personally did not get that vibe from the film. Even if that is the case, then I think that that is another example of some poor writing. Again, I haven't seen the film in months and I haven't watched it multiple times analyzing every detail, this is just what I felt after leaving the theater.

In the end I thought that parts of the movie where amazing and other parts not so good.

[Kage]

Understood.

I thought the humor was good but that's obviously very subjective. :)

[thomas is fast]

Which humor parts are you referring to?

[Mr. Ron]

I liked it. The combat scenes were cool. Could have used more of them.

[Robert Crumb]

Does anyone think Julianne Moore is a bad actress? A lot of the stuff I've seen her in is pretty meh, dragged down by her. Kinda glad her role was *ahem* abbreviated in this one.

I thought it was great and all, but I saw it in the theaters. A perfect theater film, I dunno how much fun it would be if I saw on DVD first. Probably still good, maybe not as good. I dunno.

[UpperDecker]

The dude with the long hair/hippyish (can't remember the actors name) was my favorite part of the movie. That and the part where they are walking out of the building with the baby and everyone is in awe. Those were my fav. scenes. I thought the ending was bad because it ended so abruptly. We could have atleast seen her been rescued by the boat and know that she and her baby survived.

[thomas is fast]

Michael Cane.

[Kage]

Does anyone think Julianne Moore is a bad actress? A lot of the stuff I've seen her in is pretty meh, dragged down by her. Kinda glad her role was *ahem* abbreviated in this one.

I thought it was great and all, but I saw it in the theaters. A perfect theater film, I dunno how much fun it would be if I saw on DVD first. Probably still good, maybe not as good. I dunno.

I agree, it's a theater movie.

UpperDecker The dude with the long hair/hippyish (can't remember the actors name) was my favorite part of the movie. That and the part where they are walking out of the building with the baby and everyone is in awe. Those were my fav. scenes. I thought the ending was bad because it ended so abruptly. We could have atleast seen her been rescued by the boat and know that she and her baby survived.
Dude why do you want everything spelled out? The ambiguity is what made the ending good.

[thomas is fast]

Well the majority of Americans want the "American Ending".
Boo Hollywood.

[bradc1988]

Yeah it was pretty good, the whole last segment topped it off though. I was a little pissed when it just ended without a complete conclusion, but I guess the whole thing was from Owen's perspective and it couldn't really continue for obvious reasons.

[Kage]

Demanding a complete conclusion is ridiculous.

[Robert Crumb]

Since ambiguity (or at least faith and the necessity of uncertainity to facilitate faith) was one of the key themes of the movie, it seemed like an appropriate ending. It goes deeper than the simple fact that we only know as much as Theo does. The whole populous the world is stuck in an ambiguous end-of-times situation; the future isn't clear, nor are the circumstances that brought about the movie's present. There's even no certainity that, should the girl and baby be saved, that it would do anything to pull the world out of its impotent funk. It just makes sense as a corollary to end things without tying them up in a bow.

But just because the ending was appropriate or the right choice doesn't necessarily mean it was a good one or that you have to like it.

[br3ad_man]

Does anyone think Julianne Moore is a bad actress? A lot of the stuff I've seen her in is pretty meh, dragged down by her. Kinda glad her role was *ahem* abbreviated in this one.

The drugstore scene in Magnolia is good.

[Robert Crumb]

Conceded. But I still think she's mostly boring. :-*

[planewreck]

Magnolia is such a good movie. But I think she's quite a good actress.

[Opulent Cow]

She played an okay seasoned porn star in Boogie Nights, though she wasn't as good as rollergirl.

[planewreck]

Haha, holy ****, I forgot all about Boogie Nights. That movie kicked so much ***. That scene where she and Marky Mark first get it on and she basically tells him to, uh, release his stuff in her, it makes it so not pornography and more like, hey, these people are just making it. She made that scene cold and not sexy, and I think that's less because it's her and more because that's what she planned as an actress.

[thomas is fast]

Since ambiguity (or at least faith and the necessity of uncertainity to facilitate faith) was one of the key themes of the movie, it seemed like an appropriate ending. It goes deeper than the simple fact that we only know as much as Theo does. The whole populous the world is stuck in an ambiguous end-of-times situation; the future isn't clear, nor are the circumstances that brought about the movie's present. There's even no certainity that, should the girl and baby be saved, that it would do anything to pull the world out of its impotent funk. It just makes sense as a corollary to end things without tying them up in a bow.

But just because the ending was appropriate or the right choice doesn't necessarily mean it was a good one or that you have to like it.

Well there's a difference between a good ending and what you want to happen. Take almost any recognized film and it usually has an unfinished ending. I'll use The Graduate because I just wrote a paper on it, but the end of the movie leaves you with Ben and Ellain on a bus realizing what they just did and are "oh shi...". I thought that ending was perfect for the movie, but not necessarily what I wanted to happen. That's why I think people really shouldn't say it's a bad movie because it has an unfinished ending.

[bradc1988]

Demanding a complete conclusion is ridiculous.

I don't know where you got the idea I was demanding anything, I just said I was disappointed there wasn't one. I just felt its ending left too much unresolved.

[Kage]

Maybe you're a ****ing idiot, ever think of that?

[bradc1988]

lawl

[DudeIRuleAtGuitar]

YES! Watch this movie. It was amazing. I left the theater babbling like a 5 year old because of how much I loved it.

[Robert Crumb]

Well there's a difference between a good ending and what you want to happen. Take almost any recognized film and it usually has an unfinished ending. I'll use The Graduate because I just wrote a paper on it, but the end of the movie leaves you with Ben and Ellain on a bus realizing what they just did and are "oh shi...". I thought that ending was perfect for the movie, but not necessarily what I wanted to happen. That's why I think people really shouldn't say it's a bad movie because it has an unfinished ending.

I don't think there's anything wrong with having expectations of a film. We all have preconceptions about a film before we go see them. If we didn't try to build those expectations we'd probably see a lot of shitty movies. It's probably not so good to take those expectations to that next degree and ask them to be fulfilled to the tee, but everybody gets to watch these things on their own terms. Like you say, the really great endings are the ones that fulfill our expectations (to some degree, maybe even becoming real enough that we want them) but that still surprise us in some way.

The ending of Children of Men didn't feel unfinished to me. But I didn't think it was an especially great one, so I can see where people who really dislike it are coming from. I don't think it's just Hollywooditis, although it's probably that, too.

[EightMilesHigh]

Sid was the equivalent of Jar-Jar Binks



yes! very much so

and he made a simple typo boohoo

[thomas is fast]

I don't think there's anything wrong with having expectations of a film. We all have preconceptions about a film before we go see them. If we didn't try to build those expectations we'd probably see a lot of shitty movies. It's probably not so good to take those expectations to that next degree and ask them to be fulfilled to the tee, but everybody gets to watch these things on their own terms. Like you say, the really great endings are the ones that fulfill our expectations (to some degree, maybe even becoming real enough that we want them) but that still surprise us in some way.

The ending of Children of Men didn't feel unfinished to me. But I didn't think it was an especially great one, so I can see where people who really dislike it are coming from. I don't think it's just Hollywooditis, although it's probably that, too.

Yeah I don't even really know why I'm arguing because I agree with everything you just said.


and he made a simple typo boohoo
Proof reading takes up a lot of time. I'm letting him know he looks unintelligent.

[CrossTheBreeze]

Dude why do you want everything spelled out? The ambiguity is what made the ending good.

I don't mind ambigous endings like in ESOTSM or 28DL, but COM's was just to ambigous and not to mention that the movie ends right when it is about to reach it's climax. That last battle scene got me so worked up only to lead to a very anit-climatic ending

[Captain Rapeface]

Not everything ends with a bang.

[CrossTheBreeze]

Not everything ends with a bang.

yeah, but considering how great most of the film was it should have

[black guy]

I don't mind ambigous endings like in ESOTSM or 28DL, but COM's was just to ambigous and not to mention that the movie ends right when it is about to reach it's climax. That last battle scene got me so worked up only to lead to a very anit-climatic ending
do you think the human project was going to **** the baby to save humanity or something? then movie didn't end before the climax, it ended about 5 minutes after it.

[CrossTheBreeze]

do you think the human project was going to **** the baby to save humanity or something? then movie didn't end before the climax, it ended about 5 minutes after it.

I just didn't feel satisfied with ending.

It was waaaaay too abrupt especially after such a badass battle scene

[thomas is fast]

yeah, but considering how great most of the film was it should have

Well there's a difference between a good ending and what you want to happen. Take almost any recognized film and it usually has an unfinished ending. I'll use The Graduate because I just wrote a paper on it, but the end of the movie leaves you with Ben and Ellain on a bus realizing what they just did and are "oh shi...". I thought that ending was perfect for the movie, but not necessarily what I wanted to happen. That's why I think people really shouldn't say it's a bad movie because it has an unfinished ending.

Wat?

[planewreck]

I don't mind ambigous endings like in ESOTSM or 28DL, but COM's was just to ambigous and not to mention that the movie ends right when it is about to reach it's climax. That last battle scene got me so worked up only to lead to a very anit-climatic ending
But that was the climax. I don't get why everyone think it's so ambiguous. You saw the Tomorrow boat float towards here, and then it ends with the sound of children laughing. That's more than likely a hammer to the nail that, hey, everything does work out in the end. If we had seen her get on the boat, it would have been another scene like the one in the building where everyone starts weeping over the baby and then it would have been schmaltzy with clichéd music and rises. It was fine as it is, and I don't think the director intended it to be read from any other certain way.

[AlienEater]

I really want to see this

[CrossTheBreeze]

Wat?

you must have missed certain parts of my previous posts as well. As I've already mentioned I've loved other endings that have left you hanging but with those films, unlike COM, I actually felt satisfied with how it ended. I dunno it's probably that in those endings, because they're a tad more direct, you feel almost as if the characters have plunged into an eternal state filled with endless options by the time the end credits roll.

I agree that the ending was appropriate but it left ALOT to be desired, too much even for an ambigous ending if you ask me.