Mulholland Dr.

[Tillius]

Watched it last night.
Always heard good things about it but never got around to seeing it until last night.
WHAT THE HELL IS UP WITH THIS MOVIE?!?!?!
Good, yes, but confusing as hell.

[Kage]

MEh.

[incubliss]

still have no idea about the ending.

[telemore]

i 2nd kage's

meh



watch it again.

[Gnarmageddon]

I've been contemplating seeing this. Is it worth watching?

I love everything else David Lynch has done.

[Otherside]

great amazing ****ing movie

[telemore]

It's beyond worth watching.

[Tillius]

still have no idea about the ending.

Exactly.

[Gnarmageddon]

Exactly.
David Lynch lolz.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ut6zdE8qWj0

"You see, the cheese comes FROM the milk."

I am pretty sure everything he does in his life does not make sense at all, but I love him to death.

[telemore]

Oh i get it, lol i get it now. Cheese is made from milk. No wai, that bitch didn't get it. She just figured him to be some creepy guy on a corner with a cow wtf goddammit.

[Kage]

Rabbit is wise ITT.

[telemore]

I hate when people discuss Lynch's films and they describe whatever like this, 'I really liked it but I don't understand what was happening. Tell me what happened.'

>: l

[incubliss]

yeah i love da lynch. i did a research project on him, and he's so fascinatingly weird. seriously, he's like a child in a dream world.

[Kage]

I met the man himself when he introduced Inland Empire at the Austin premiere and did a Q&A.

[telemore]

Oh wow.

[Tillius]

I met the man himself when he introduced Inland Empire at the Austin premiere and did a Q&A.

A friend of mine went to that and said it was amazing.



I hate when people discuss Lynch's films and they describe whatever like this, 'I really liked it but I don't understand what was happening. Tell me what happened.'

>: l
I understood most of the movie, and enjoyed it quite a bit.
I just didn't get what was with the ending.

[Kage]

It's not really about understanding it, though.

[Grant]

Such a striking movie, one of Lynch's best looking for sure. Blue Velvet is still my favourite of his movies though, Dennis Hopper is a monster in that movie.

[trustxdialect]

I figured it out through the second viewing.

Starting with when they first open the box and she falls through, it becomes the 'real world.' Everything up to this point was a dream. Betty is actually Diane (during the dream part of the film, she meets a waitress named Diane and reacted to it. During the 'real' segments, she ran into a waitress named Betty), who is in love with a woman Camilla (or Rita in the dream). Camilla ends up dumping Diane, so Diane plans to have her killed and once she is told that Camilla is dead, Diane breaks down and shoots herself. She doesn't die instantly, and everything up to this point is her dreaming up until her death. It's her chance to be with Camilla again, living out her dream as an actress and to feel important. All of the other segments not involving her are just different threads of her dream coming together and just involve people that she met in passing in scenes from her 'real' world.

Note that up until the point where they open the box, everyone talks exaggerated and the world holds a slight glow? Because it's a dream.

[Meatplow]

Horror movies do not scare me to this capacity.

[trustxdialect]

edit: oh wooooooops, missed that.

[telemore]

He neversaid it was a horror film, just that it was scarier than any horror film he has seen. And I have to agree with him.

[trustxdialect]

Really? I don't see this as that scary. I was riveted, yes, but what was so scary about it?

As far as films that horror films haven't scared me to this capacity, I recommend May. I shook at the end of that movie.

[Meatplow]

Really? I don't see this as that scary. I was riveted, yes, but what was so scary about it?

As far as films that horror films haven't scared me to this capacity, I recommend May. I shook at the end of that movie.

Once i understood the significance of what Lynch was trying to convey here i got the biggest shiver up my spine.

The exact same thing happened with Lost Highway and Eraserhead. It has given me the utmost respect for this director to create warped dreamscapes that f*ck with your head.

[telemore]

I don't know, I can't explain why Mulholland Dr. made me feel the way it did/does. It's just a vast uneasiness about it. And that makes me uneasy. I think or something I don't really know, tbh.

[Eliminator]

bad movie

[trustxdialect]

The only part that ever reached that feeling of unease was when she was about to shoot herself and the old people came out from the under the door. I don't think I've ever seen a film that ever made me feel like I was really watching someone break down until I saw Mulholland Dr. Other than that, I don't see it.

I'm really holding out for INLAND EMPIRE. It didn't play anywhere near here and won't be out on DVD till June 8th. :(

[incubliss]

Once i understood the significance of what Lynch was trying to convey here i got the biggest shiver up my spine.

The exact same thing happened with Lost Highway and Eraserhead. It has given me the utmost respect for this director to create warped dreamscapes that f*ck with your head.what did you think Lynch was trying to convey with Mulholland Dr?

and whoever said May was the scariest film they'd ever seen, are you serious? that film was pretty tame, by anyone's standards

[Meatplow]

what did you think Lynch was trying to convey with Mulholland Dr?

The whole hollowness of success, and the desire of people to enter that world. It's not so much the theme which got me, but the way Lynch creates a confusing mess that appears utterly stupid yet structures his scenes to create an eerie symbolism. It makes zero sense until you give it reflection, and some of the interpretations i have read have blown my mind. I can't say exactly what Lynch was conveying but at least the underlying theme is true.

The one that got me the most is where the mime is singing 'it's all fake' in latin, or something similar to it, then falls over dead whilst the singing continues and you realise that he wasn't singing at all. It's like a nightmare, it makes me feel very small and disturbed in the grand scheme of things.

[trustxdialect]

and whoever said May was the scariest film they'd ever seen, are you serious? that film was pretty tame, by anyone's standards

Did I say it was the scarest film I've ever seen? Also, you're mixing the usual jump-factor kind of scares with the casual, dread like scary I'm referring to. Chills went up my spine at the end of the film, and that's what I'm referring to. It's tame, sure, but the way it gets under your skin is fantastic.

[trustxdialect]

The one that got me the most is where the mime is singing 'it's all fake' in latin, or something similar to it, then falls over dead whilst the singing continues and you realise that he wasn't singing at all. It's like a nightmare, it makes me feel very small and disturbed in the grand scheme of things.

You do realize that it was
a) a girl and that
b) there was a whole monologue leading up to her coming out to sing that basically said, "Everything you hear has been pre-recorded" so it shouldn't have been surprising unless you weren't paying attention.

[br3ad_man]

Great film. Still, I think Blue Velvet is the only Lynch film I've seen that has connected with me...or something. That and The Straight Story.

[incubliss]

Did I say it was the scarest film I've ever seen? Also, you're mixing the usual jump-factor kind of scares with the casual, dread like scary I'm referring to. Chills went up my spine at the end of the film, and that's what I'm referring to. It's tame, sure, but the way it gets under your skin is fantastic.ok, so i jumped the gun. but can you honestly say it was at all daunting? ok, the theme is, and how messed up she is, and the ending ok; i knew what you were referring too. but in general i thought the film was so badly made and acted, i couldn't help but not believe in the characters. it was an awful film

[Meatplow]

You do realize that it was
a) a girl and that
b) there was a whole monologue leading up to her coming out to sing that basically said, "Everything you hear has been pre-recorded" so it shouldn't have been surprising unless you weren't paying attention.

I don't remember fully, been long time in between viewings. I found it really effective, a scene has never got to me that way before.

[telemore]

i'm gonna bump an old thread but oh well it's for a good cause.

The scene at Silencio was amazing. With the girl singing Roy Orbison in spanish. Crying (llorando) was the title bros. Umm, when she falls out dead it gave me a very strange sense too. Of course I knew it wasn't real. 'This is all recorded.' 'No hay banda!' But to have the singer fall over and die? Come on, that's brilliant. And from there we go straight into hell. Literally, kind of. lol.

Man, I'm gonna watch this again. :)

[Meatplow]

I've watched it twice, once not so long ago months after i'd seen the first if only to measure whether it would have the same impact it did when i first watched it. While some parts had less impact, other parts seemed all the more stronger, especially the music. The intro sequence with the ragtime music and people dancing is really disturbing to me for some reason, i don't understand why it freaks me out.

[trustxdialect]

ok, the theme is, and how messed up she is, and the ending ok; i knew what you were referring too. but in general i thought the film was so badly made and acted, i couldn't help but not believe in the characters. it was an awful film
To each his own. I thought it was brilliant, and Angela Bettis is fantastic. She was in another movie, Toolbox Murders or something like that, and it's horrible but she's so good in it that it's almost a pity that she's wasting such talent on such shlock.

[Aeaon]

Great movie.



The first time i ever saw it, i had no ****ing clue what was going on, though the DVD comes with a piece of paper that gives you clues on the movie. :thumb:

[telemore]

hey one of my favorite movies is still being discussed, kind of.

I have a problem with trustxdialect's posts ITT. I hate the way you spell it out, as if to say that 'this is the way it was meant to be.'

Now, I'm not saying that was your intention or anything like that.

After reading some of Lynch's writing on the subject (interpretation of his films and what not) and thinking on the subject I've come to the conclusion that interpretations of his films are a very personal thing. I don't like to discuss what certain things may or may not mean to characters, if that makes sense.

I do however like to talk about hte film itself and the brilliance on screen.

Speaking of brilliance, INLAND EMPIRE was amazing (i figure this is a lynch thread, so why not, eh?) I made a real effort to not piece it together as it was unfolding, or even as the credits rolled (that was interesting too, the credits, lol) and was left sitting in the seat as the lights went up feeling a sense of 'whoa'.

[MattSharpIsCool]

You do realize that it was
a) a girl and that
b) there was a whole monologue leading up to her coming out to sing that basically said, "Everything you hear has been pre-recorded" so it shouldn't have been surprising unless you weren't paying attention.

That scene still took me by surprise. I had been watching, and I should have realized she wasn't really singing, but it pulled me in and made me completely forget it was a recording. As soon as she collapsed and the song kept going, I thought "oh ya! She wasn't really singing!"

This movie is awesome. What's with the guy behind the dumpster? Does he represent death, or what?

[planewreck]

I have a problem with trustxdialect's posts ITT. I hate the way you spell it out, as if to say that 'this is the way it was meant to be.'

Now, I'm not saying that was your intention or anything like that.
It wasn't, but I've read multiple sources that quote it is as the original point. Of course, Lynch is open to his films being interpreted whichever way a viewer wants, but that's how I figured it out and I found a lot of different sources that site it the same way, noting Lynch did as well. I'm not saying Lynch wants it to be completely that one which way, but still. Now that I figured it out that way, it's hard to see it any other way unless you stretch it past its boundaries. I've seen theories that boggle my mind, in a bad way, like, how could they possibly have seen it like that?

To each his own.

[CaptainWaits]

Brilliant film, but after watching it a half dozen times, it still doesn't make sense, even after reading comments elsewhere of people doing their best to try to explain the movie in a linear path.

But god do I love this film!

[telemore]

Oh no I'm not saying I disagree with you man, lol. You've hit it pretty close to where I think it stays. Although I think both characters are a bit of both women i nthe dream bit. Like Betty and Rita are both different aspects of Diane's psyche.

Man behind winkies - lol. He (she - played by a woman in a man's part) freaked me the hell out the first time i saw it. :(

[CaptainWaits]

Is that the part where the guy talks to his friend in the cafe (or restuarant) about the thing he always sees in his dream, and then they go behind the building in the alley and the thing pops out?? Yeh, that got me the first time...

[telemore]

Yessir

[Riziger]

i watched this once and had no clue what was goin on. wanna watch it again since it seems like everyone thinks its a good movie.

all i remembered were the lesbian scenes and the monster-like thing behind the dumpster which literally made me jump.

[MattSharpIsCool]

Yes I sharted a tiny bit when I first saw that part behind the dumpster.