ITT: We Banish Certain Covers From YouTube [Archive]

naut

03-27-2007, 10:50 PM

this is aimed at guitarists and bassists, and particularly in reference to many videos on YouTube.

ok, so guitar store rule #1 is? DON'T PLAY STAIRWAY.

much the same, we shall discuss rules for songs to be played on YouTube.

i'll go first:

Mario Theme Song.

GET THE **** OUT.

Canon In D.

OH MY MOTHER****ING GOD GET OUT NOW.

if you've done it before, fine; but if anyone does either of those songs from here on out...you're ****ing executed.

those are the most obvious, would anyone care to add one? or two? or fifty?

BenJammin

03-27-2007, 10:55 PM

Classical Thump.

More than likely, you can't play it. And even if you can, no one wants to hear it anyway.

Akira

03-27-2007, 10:59 PM

Next crappy Stu Hamm cover gets a roundhouse to the face.

naut

03-27-2007, 10:59 PM

Classical Thump.

More than likely, you can't play it. And even if you can, no one wants to hear it anyway.

yes yes. it's one of those songs people are already sick of hearing by the guy who can play it. so naturally, seeing a 15 year old half-*** his way through it doesn't exactly seem appealing.

good call with the roundhouse kick. just be sure to have kleets on.

bottlerocket

03-27-2007, 11:24 PM

Longview, Carousel

White Riot!

03-27-2007, 11:37 PM

Why doesnt anyone play Guns of Brixton in a bass store?

thelowsoundofbass

03-27-2007, 11:46 PM

Guitar players playing either Gilbert songs or John Pittruci songs. YOU CAN'T PLAY THEM, NO ONE IS THAT GOOD!

lowsound

naut

03-28-2007, 12:21 AM

Why doesnt anyone play Guns of Brixton in a bass store?

because show-off wankers go to music stores, and playing three notes doesn't impress anyone.

wow, this is deja vu like a bitch.

PainKiller8191

03-28-2007, 01:17 AM

aeroplane.

funkyhoney

03-28-2007, 01:24 AM

Next crappy Stu Hamm cover gets a roundhouse to the face.

what do i get for a good Stu Hamm cover?

i'll have to say anything by wooten, imo he can groove, most random tools can't.

uhmmmm, most RHCP songs appear way to often and anything on guitar that is instantly recognisable and evokes a sigh and/or rolling of eyes

kilian

03-28-2007, 04:37 AM

PoT.

And almost every other bass solo, other then from yourself*.
:amaze:

*and even then..

Thunder Fingers

03-28-2007, 04:45 AM

Ill banish double thumping videos.. it sounds like crap! QUIT IT!!!!

Misanthropic

03-28-2007, 04:51 AM

:lol: i got both mario and canon in d on my youtube.

lateralus423

03-28-2007, 06:01 AM

Guitar players playing either Gilbert songs or John Pittruci songs. YOU CAN'T PLAY THEM, NO ONE IS THAT GOOD!

lowsound

Just because you can't doesn't mean other people cant. I dont find gilbert that hard to learn, hes just to fast and too clean.

E_man

03-28-2007, 06:29 AM

aneasthesia...its not that great and your playing without distortion...

WHAT ARE YOU DOING?!?!?!?!

And of course Paranoid for guitarists...geeze...

Polyamarous

03-28-2007, 07:18 AM

The next kid who plays/muffs up playing carousel.

naut

03-28-2007, 07:50 AM

:lol: i got both mario and canon in d on my youtube.

you son of a bitch!http://ut2004.titaninternet.co.uk/forums/images/smilies/icon_fist.gif

Raiven

03-28-2007, 09:27 AM

anything called "bass solo"

that has a tagline that includes the words "lol" or "made up on the spot"

Akira

03-28-2007, 10:11 AM

I'm thinking death for anyone who posts an "Awesome Funk Solo" and then just plays a few Flea riffs badly.

thelowsoundofbass

03-28-2007, 10:55 AM

Just because you can't doesn't mean other people cant. I dont find gilbert that hard to learn, hes just to fast and too clean.

I could probably learn a Gilbert song, but like you said he is really fast and really clean, I have never heard anyone that has played one of his solos clean.

lowsound

Akira

03-28-2007, 10:55 AM

I could probably learn a Gilbert song, but like you said he is really fast and really clean, I have never heard anyone that has played one of his solos clean.

lowsound

Lulz. I bet it would be almost as mehtulzz!!!1! as your triple popping.

thelowsoundofbass

03-28-2007, 11:06 AM

Lulz. I bet it would be almost as mehtulzz!!!1! as your triple popping.

I could learn it, but it would suck, which wouldn't make it any different from any of the other Gilbert songs on youtube. Thus the point of this thread.

lowsound

Sablate McNuff

03-28-2007, 11:33 AM

Tryxx

03-28-2007, 11:34 AM

There is a good Canon in D video by this guy who does guitar comedy to that song. I think you can find it if you search for Pachelbel's Canon in D on YouTube.

"Go to Hell, Pachelbeeellllll!..."

:lol:

Great song.

Pretty sure Dylan posted the link to that...

Sablate McNuff

03-28-2007, 11:45 AM

When? Where? I didn't know that.

Tryxx

03-28-2007, 11:48 AM

When? Where? I didn't know that.

http://sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=506352

December 20th.

Thonk

03-28-2007, 11:54 AM

Just because you can't doesn't mean other people cant. I dont find gilbert that hard to learn, hes just to fast and too clean.
123

there are tons of people who can play gilbert and/or petrucci.

i.e http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AN5iJk4ikUs

Akira

03-28-2007, 12:03 PM

EADG

03-28-2007, 12:05 PM

Agreed with anything posted here

Anything called "slap bass solo" gtfo

Any virtuoso "covers" - ex. Stu, Victor - gtfo

Any "covers" of Classical Thump, Country Music, or Moonlight Sonata - definetely GTFO now.

Any bands who suck (95% of them) - gtfo

Any people who can't sing/scream - gtfo and stop "covering" bands I like.

o b s

03-28-2007, 12:14 PM

Any track that uses a cheap keyboard drum beat to keep time

Misanthropic

03-28-2007, 12:21 PM

Any track that uses a cheap keyboard drum beat to keep time

i'm guilty again. :wave:

lemoley

03-28-2007, 12:21 PM

Tool - Schism

learn the ****er before you post it!

Thonk

03-28-2007, 12:23 PM

buckethead covers.

for the most part, they're horrible.

o b s

03-28-2007, 12:26 PM

Guitar shred solos played on a bass neck regester.

crazyjake19

03-28-2007, 01:53 PM

no FreeBird

thelowsoundofbass

03-28-2007, 02:03 PM

buckethead covers.

for the most part, they're horrible.

That they are, mainly because no one can match the buckethead.

lowsound

Jaded

03-28-2007, 04:07 PM

I could learn it, but it would suck, which wouldn't make it any different from any of the other Gilbert songs on youtube. Thus the point of this thread.

lowsound

......

neatobassman

03-28-2007, 04:18 PM

Any guitar solo where the kid has the song playing and waits for the solo and plays over the solo.

neatobassman

03-28-2007, 04:18 PM

OH!....and Crazy Train for both bass and guitar.

Jody LeCompte

03-28-2007, 04:21 PM

I'd like to see you play one of Paul Gilbert's solos in any recognizable form Lowsound...

Phalanx

03-28-2007, 04:28 PM

This is the exact sorta elitist faggism that I can imagine Gav isn't too fond of but ah well.

That said, I really dislike seeing people playing sucky slap bass lines, fortunately you do get some players who make up really good ones but 90% of the time, they suck.

Thonk

03-28-2007, 04:48 PM

I'd like to see you play one of Paul Gilbert's solos in any recognizable form Lowsound...
he could learn it, but it would suck, which wouldn't make it any different from any of the other gilbert songs on youtube. thus the point of this thread.

:amaze:

bassist1989

03-28-2007, 04:50 PM

pukeboy66

03-28-2007, 05:15 PM

Next person who covers Chromatic-mother****ing- fantasy gets a kick in the balls.

TheClap

03-28-2007, 05:50 PM

I love being in a guitar store and hearing higher ground slapped terribly on a nice Musicman right next to me.

o b s

03-28-2007, 05:53 PM

I love being in a guitar store and hearing higher ground slapped terribly on a nice Musicman right next to me.

I bet most of those offenders even think that flea wrote that line.

Akira

03-28-2007, 05:53 PM

Lawl. It seems like whenever I go to GC there are older dudes playing really tasteful slap grooves. So I get embarrassed and don't end up actually playing anything.

EADG

03-28-2007, 05:53 PM

and that guy showing double thumbing with the thigh and the breathing)

To be fair that guy is really good, and that video is helpful.

But yeah, if you ask me

If you can't play the song, or if the song is obviously out of your skill level: DON'T UPLOAD IT. We don't want to watch it.

This also applies to music stores, concerts, and audio recordings.

bassist1989

03-28-2007, 05:57 PM

To be fair that guy is really good, and that video is helpful.

But yeah, if you ask me

If you can't play the song, or if the song is obviously out of your skill level: DON'T UPLOAD IT. We don't want to watch it.

This also applies to music stores, concerts, and audio recordings.

yeh he is, i learn from that a lot.

what about if you need some tips on how to help learn the song, and you want to show how far youve got on your own.

ive done that a few times and it really helped

EADG

03-28-2007, 06:03 PM

yeh he is, i learn from that a lot.

what about if you need some tips on how to help learn the song, and you want to show how far youve got on your own.

ive done that a few times and it really helped

Yeah, I have no problem with that, it's just videos people post where they think they are the ****, but really they can only play 30 seconds of a hard song, really sloppy, and usually rushed.

Then if anyone insults their playing or says they need to improve they get defense and make up bullshit excuses like "it was my first take", "I was just fooling around", "I don't care enough to learn the whole thing".

I think a very important part of growing as a musician is being honest with yourself. If you can't play something, you can't play it. You can make all the excuses you want, but fact still remains. Get what I'm saying? If you don't admit you need to improve, you never will.

TheClap

03-28-2007, 06:06 PM

Yeah, I have no problem with that, it's just videos people post where they think they are the ****, but really they can only play 30 seconds of a hard song, really sloppy, and usually rushed.

Then if anyone insults their playing or says they need to improve they get defense and make up bullshit excuses like "it was my first take", "I was just fooling around", "I don't care enough to learn the whole thing".

I think a very important part of growing as a musician is being honest with yourself. If you can't play something, you can't play it. You can make all the excuses you want, but fact still remains. Get what I'm saying? If you don't admit you need to improve, you never will.

I hate the people that defend the person in question. Saying "hes really good, and your just jealous." Its all just bullshit.

EADG

03-28-2007, 06:10 PM

I hate the people that defend the person in question. Saying "hes really good, and your just jealous." Its all just bullpoop.

Youtube is really just horrible. People are either too nice (like the people you referenced) or they're just total assholes on an ego trip.

I don't know what's more pathetic, people who cut up people who suck when they could be offering constructive criticism (ex. "You suck go die fag"), or the people who know perfectly well that the person is amazing, yet they still cut them up because they think it's funny (ex. FAKE u sped it up).

o b s

03-28-2007, 06:11 PM

I don't read youtube comments anymore, 95% of bass related discussions just turn into Wooten/Claypool/Jaco etc. against each other, in 14 year old speak.

EADG

03-28-2007, 06:13 PM

I don't read youtube comments anymore, 95% of bass related discussions just turn into Wooten/Claypool/Jaco etc. against each other, in 14 year old speak.

True that, probably less than 5% of the comments are actually worth reading.

bassist1989

03-28-2007, 06:16 PM

I hate the people that defend the person in question. Saying "hes really good, and your just jealous." Its all just bullpoop.

that annoys me even more when its people defending metallica as they are now.

EADG

03-28-2007, 06:20 PM

Ever watch System of a Down videos?

Every single one, the comments just turn into a pissing match on whether or not the Armenian Genocide happened.

myassitches

03-28-2007, 06:23 PM

no more eruption please.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_2JIoFtzV0&NR

BenJammin

03-28-2007, 06:54 PM

I love being in a guitar store and hearing higher ground slapped terribly on a nice Musicman right next to me.

Last weekend, there was a really bad cover band playing at the bar I was at. They played RHCP's version of Higher Ground, and the bassist didn't even slap it. I was like 'wtf?!'

Jody LeCompte

03-28-2007, 06:56 PM

It probably sounded better fingerstyle.

RHCP recorded that song before Flea discovered taste.

BenJammin

03-28-2007, 06:57 PM

It probably sounded better fingerstyle.

RHCP recorded that song before Flea discovered taste.

The bassline is fine. It's just octaves.

It sounded pretty lame fingerstyle, to be quite honest.

Jaded

03-28-2007, 07:19 PM

This is the exact sorta elitist faggism that I can imagine Gav isn't too fond of but ah well
123

I honestly don't know why you guys even spend time on youtube browsing a bunch of crappy bass vids recorded with webcams.

Brandon_S

03-28-2007, 08:11 PM

The bassline is fine. It's just octaves.

It sounded pretty lame fingerstyle, to be quite honest.

Yeah,That song would sound weird fingerstyle.

I hate hte youtube comments aswell,its usually young kids saying stupid stuff like "flea sucks" or Jaco is better,Jaco Vs Wooten,something really idiotic along those lines. When all those bass players,Flea,Wooten,Jaco,Claypool,etc are all amazing bassists,and shouldnt be compared imo.

Back to the topic,I hate hearing kids play fall out boy songs on bass,on youtube.

Brandon_S

03-28-2007, 08:15 PM

Any track that uses a cheap keyboard drum beat to keep time

:(,If I had the money,Id use better.

irishslappop

03-28-2007, 08:17 PM

123

I honestly don't know why you guys even spend time on youtube.

yeah.

Brandon_S

03-28-2007, 08:17 PM

Yeah, I have no problem with that, it's just videos people post where they think they are the ****, but really they can only play 30 seconds of a hard song, really sloppy, and usually rushed.

Then if anyone insults their playing or says they need to improve they get defense and make up bullshit excuses like "it was my first take", "I was just fooling around", "I don't care enough to learn the whole thing".

I think a very important part of growing as a musician is being honest with yourself. If you can't play something, you can't play it. You can make all the excuses you want, but fact still remains. Get what I'm saying? If you don't admit you need to improve, you never will.

Thats such a good point,Its funny because I can imagine alot of the people who spend time on there makeing time of others are probally worse,because they spend practice time makeing fun of others.

But yeah,Why post Classical Thump,When you can barely play "Louie Louie" yet,Like you said you need to be honest with yourself,if you get more a head of yourself,you will end up getting worse.

BassVirtuoso

03-28-2007, 08:18 PM

123

I honestly don't know why you guys even spend time on youtube browsing a bunch of crappy bass vids recorded with webcams.

Same reason you spend time on sputnikmusicforums browsing a bunch of crappy threads made by crappy posters.

Brandon_S

03-28-2007, 08:18 PM

123

I honestly don't know why you guys even spend time on youtube browsing a bunch of crappy bass vids recorded with webcams.

That is true,sometimes I dont have the song (I also dont have a downloading program),so I just look for the bassline on youtube.

Brandon_S

03-28-2007, 08:19 PM

Same reason you spend time on sputnikmusicforums browsing a bunch of crappy threads made by crappy posters.

LMFAO. +rep.

Jaded

03-28-2007, 08:44 PM

Same reason you spend time on sputnikmusicforums browsing a bunch of crappy threads made by crappy posters.
That made a lot of sense. The same reason that I just said I didn't know? I could give you plenty of reasons why I like mx, but they have nothing to do with sub par bassists with webcams. In fact, the only crappy thing about this forum are the links people post to youtube of people butchering songs.

BassVirtuoso

03-28-2007, 08:49 PM

That made a lot of sense. The same reason that I just said I didn't know? I could give you plenty of reasons why I like mx, but they have nothing to do with sub par bassists with webcams. In fact, the only crappy thing about this forum are the links people post to youtube of people butchering songs.

What?

I didn't know you were being serious.

Jaded

03-28-2007, 09:00 PM

Serious about me not liking homemade bass vids on youtube?

BassVirtuoso

03-28-2007, 09:03 PM

Serious about me not liking homemade bass vids on youtube?

No serious about wondering why people like to watch crappy homemade videos.

For example:
People post in the pit, regularly.

king of suede

03-28-2007, 09:14 PM

sorry if this has been said:
for whom the bell tolls...
it's easy... but people can't play it...

but on another youtube related topic...
have you guys seen that band of like 7 year olds who play sepultura, iron maiden and like a bnch of awsome songs??
it's like a 4 year old playing lead guitar and singing and his 6 year old brother playing drums, and then they got the oldest brother in playing guitar and the youngest plays bass... and they're covering like all thse songs almost perfecctly... except for the vocals.... i'll try to find a link

EDIT:
http://gauchosalta.blogspot.com/ there.... they're amazing.... and from argintina(sp?)

thelowsoundofbass

03-28-2007, 09:16 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C584Qhfn-ZQ

that might actually be gilbo himself, but if its not, surely thats fine

oh and people also need to stop uploading the same video from limewire 20 times. (neil pearts yyz solo and that guy showing double thumbing with the thigh and the breathing)

and whats wrong with cheap keyboard drum machines? theyre excellent help. for me, anyway since i got the keyboard for free and dont want to spend money. therefore, i cant get a metronome

That is either Gilbert or Buckethead, but I am leaning toward Gilbert because Buckethead has longer fingers. If it isn't either of them, mad props because that was GOOD, flawless technique and the Gilbert picking style is right one (I call it the Gilbert picking style because he used it before Buckethead, he taught it to Buckethead).

Also, flea did write the bass line in the RHCP version of Higher Ground, it is way different that the Stevie Wonder version and it also has a lot less groove.

lowsound

thelowsoundofbass

03-28-2007, 09:17 PM

naut

03-28-2007, 09:35 PM

This is the exact sorta elitist faggism that I can imagine Gav isn't too fond of but ah well.

then why would he participate in the thread?:confused:

herrly

03-28-2007, 09:36 PM

Guitar solos played on bass, whether they're good or bad...

Examples...

4 string
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sNf0MHov68

7 string
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-fQ5VrJdaA

naut

03-28-2007, 09:38 PM

Youtube is really just horrible. People are either too nice (like the people you referenced) or they're just total assholes on an ego trip.

I don't know what's more pathetic, people who cut up people who suck when they could be offering constructive criticism (ex. "You suck go die fag"), or the people who know perfectly well that the person is amazing, yet they still cut them up because they think it's funny (ex. FAKE u sped it up).

what i love is how 99.9% of the people who post hateful criticism never seem to have any videos of their own...

Jaded

03-28-2007, 10:05 PM

Those kids are crazy good.

lowsound

Yeah dude that guitarist rips.

Az_Holl

03-29-2007, 01:20 AM

anything called "bass solo"

that has a tagline that includes the words "lol" or "made up on the spot"
:upset:

Ive done that a few times.

o b s

03-29-2007, 03:23 AM

Also, flea did write the bass line in the RHCP version of Higher Ground, it is way different that the Stevie Wonder version and it also has a lot less groove.

lowsound

Acting like you didn't understand a post when the meaning is very obvious, just so you can get a pointless '1 up' on an internet message board: Banished from bass forum.

Jaded

03-29-2007, 04:39 AM

stfu noob

Akira

03-29-2007, 06:53 AM

One of my favorite Youtube situations is Jean Baudin videos. Most of the replies are A) "Woah! 12 stringz? Lyke no wayz.", B) "He has too many strings, he's such a wannabe guitarist" or C) "Actually idiots, that's not a bass. It's a Chapman Stick."

It makes me lol.

Phalanx

03-29-2007, 08:00 AM

then why would he participate in the thread?:confused:

maybe his priorities changed or something, I remember there being a rule which he enforced saying threads like this aren't allowed

naut

03-29-2007, 08:31 AM

regardless, it's not a "YOU SUCK GET GOOD AND PLAY GOOD MUSIC" thread. it's about clichés...i don't see how saying i'm tired of everybody and their grandmother covering Canon in D makes me elitist.

:amaze:

03-29-2007, 12:03 PM

maybe his priorities changed or something, I remember there being a rule which he enforced saying threads like this aren't allowed

nah, this should be fine.

the rule is that you can't make a thread where you post a crappy youtube vid here just to flame the player.

:amaze:

MasterofBass

03-29-2007, 12:16 PM

basically, I think that bands doing crappy covers of anything should get a bass to the face for putting them up on you-tube, especially when they think they did a great job when it's crap.

katana_manatee

03-29-2007, 01:18 PM

Ha ha, do I get killed for having posted a PoT cover before it became way too overdone?

I actually posted it cos viscous fridge magnet wanted to hear my old vid of it which disappeared so I redid it for him and plonked it on the old youtube. Before I knew it millions of covers of it started appearing...

EADG

03-29-2007, 10:14 PM

123

I honestly don't know why you guys even spend time on youtube browsing a bunch of crappy bass vids recorded with webcams.

It's a waste of time

Much like this site is a lot of the time

But really, a lot of things in life are if you think about it.

Pinhead13

03-30-2007, 12:09 AM

Everything played by a MX user.

/Thread

Phalanx

03-30-2007, 12:32 PM

regardless, it's not a "YOU SUCK GET GOOD AND PLAY GOOD MUSIC" thread. it's about clichés...i don't see how saying i'm tired of everybody and their grandmother covering Canon in D makes me elitist.

you're right, sorry. I still think it's slightly derogatory, I mean the way I think about it, if there are so many video covers of certain songs, then surely somebody appreciates them.

katana_manatee

03-30-2007, 12:45 PM

you're right, sorry. I still think it's slightly derogatory, I mean the way I think about it, if there are so many video covers of certain songs, then surely somebody appreciates them.

Sure, people can appreciate the original but when you go and post up a half assed veresion of something popular in the hopes people are gonna go oh wow and compliment you it gets a bit tiresome.

naut

03-30-2007, 04:59 PM

you're right, sorry. I still think it's slightly derogatory, I mean the way I think about it, if there are so many video covers of certain songs, then surely somebody appreciates them.

well yeah by all means, people can, and should do what they want. although, i just don't understand the point in doing a rehashed version of Jerry C's Canon rock...i mean for ****'s sake, there are other classical songs...:p

but hey that's me.