System of a down: THE armenian metal band (spam at your own risk!)

[antihippy]

seeing as how theres no thread on this great band just thought i'd start one.

so to start of, what does everyone think about them?

[Kage]

Liked them a few years ago, then started strongly disliking them, then slipped into indifference, and today I got a strange urge to listen to them.

[Eliminator]

I can't stand them.

[badtaste]

I don't like the guitarist singing. Why? He can't sing.

[Invicta_Veritas]

Toxicity was the only album worth a crap. Everything prior was horrid, everything afterwards was unjustifyingly insulting to music.

[badtaste]

I think they let their political objectives overrule their music.

[Invicta_Veritas]

That could be the case, if there was any music to be overruled. It's crap noise in my opinion.

[Concubine]

Toxicity was the only album worth a crap. Everything prior was horrid, everything afterwards was unjustifyingly insulting to music.

Their S/T is the only good album they ever released tbh

[antihippy]

aw come on, i think the music is great, in its minimalistic charm. and they arent that political........ only a few songs each album.

[italic zero]

SOAD and Toxicity were decent

[Spoonful of Shame]

I have never liked them.

[antihippy]

mez/hyp are also pretty good...... just not their best.

[EightMilesHigh]

I liked them in my nu-metal phase but I grew out of them.

[Apocalypticon]

I still really like the S/T and Toxicity. Mezmerize and Hypnotize were pretty bad albums though.

[Anglachel]

SOAD are bad

[actionfan32]

While I don't hate them or anything, I do think SOAD are pretty overrated. So many people I know love them and think they're so amazing but I really can't get into them.

[Apocalypticon]

I agree that they are overrated. But they make fun music. It is to political though.

[Daven]

I used to love these guys, now i cant stand them.

[PinkFreud]

Serj's vocals annoy the hell out of me. I used to like a few of their songs but they're kinda boring.

[Txus]

I like the S/t and a bit of Toxicity, the rest is meh.

[Cocaine]

I like the S/t and a bit of Toxicity, the rest is meh.

Pretty much.

Daron should come with a mute button.

[badtaste]

btw, SOTD aren't an Armenian metal band.

[Cocaine]

Yeah, they really arent. Only one of their current members was actually born in Armenia. Serj is from Lebanon, as is John, and Daron was born in the US (though he is Armenian by descent).

[antihippy]

i mean that most of them are of armenian origin. and that the put armenian melodies in their brand of metal.

why's all the hate around? they are a pretty good band.

[Cocaine]

Most of them aren't Armenian, and I dont exactly know what an "Armenian Melody" is.

[i am the robots]

Well, if they're of Armenian descent, and they care about issues effecting their people (genetically) more power to them. It's not like they're posers or anything, they have the geneology, what's wrong with keeping in touch with your roots?

[Meatplow]

this is a rare band in that i don't know how i feel about them

i have listened to them extensively over time, some it it just plain rocks and the rest i am indifferent to. I like Serj's voice though it is an acquired taste, reminds me of Mike Patton singing in King For A Day era FNM (Digging The Grave in particular).

what i find most refreshing is that they are a nu-metal band that is not dwelling in pure misery and hate, they have a sense of humour and passion for what they believe in and i respect that. That said i don't listen to them much recently.

[Cocaine]

They, rather than dwelling on cliché topics like misery and hate, have gone and touched the rarely explored world of first year political science.

[i am the robots]

They, rather than dwelling on cliché topics like misery and hate, they've gone and touched the rarely explored world of first year political science.

:lol: i luv u

[JuggerKnoT]

hindNu-Metal

[Meatplow]

They, rather than dwelling on cliché topics like misery and hate, have gone and touched the rarely explored world of first year political science.

I don't see them as a political band, some of their songs are too nonsensical to pigeonhole them as such which a lot of people seem to do. The political aspect isn't unique or refreshing, thats not quite what i meant. I found them a breath of fresh air compared to other nu metal around the time Toxicity came out.

[Grumma]

I liked them in my nu-metal phase but I grew out of them.

+1

Though they were after my nu-metal phase.

[Huber]

I really like Mezmerize/Hypnotize and don't find myself listening to there other stuff anymore. When I hear it like in my buddy's car or something it's cool, but otherwise I choose the new albums.

[Flynn]

I can't stand them.

Amen.

[antihippy]

They, rather than dwelling on cliché topics like misery and hate, have gone and touched the rarely explored world of first year political science

hmmm

I don't see them as a political band, some of their songs are too nonsensical to pigeonhole them as such which a lot of people seem to do. The political aspect isn't unique or refreshing, thats not quite what i meant. I found them a breath of fresh air compared to other nu metal around the time Toxicity came out.

what he said.

and i don't think soad do cliche political stuff to sell. they do it because they believe in them! plus they make people think about the issues that's happening around the world.

[Grumma]

I think their actions outside of their musical careers kinda prove they aren't political for the sake of being political (much like Green Day was perceived to be with the release of American Idiot)

[repcak]

i used to like them... their first two albums, till the release of "steal this album", were great! back then i was into rock and SOAD where one of the bands which opened the gates for metal for me.
i haven't listend to them for 3yrs now and meanwhile i'm into death-metal. some weeks ago i listend to them again and it was horrible. after knowing what "real" (lol) metal is, i just don't understand why i liked them.

[antihippy]

^^ i just don't really get that kind of metal head mindsets. i listen to cyptopsy and opeth TONS, plus many weird and hilariously ****ed up bands, yet i can still dig into system of a down.

[Mother]

i used to like them 3 years ago. but then i got bored of it and the new albums were not that great.

[Happy]

I kinda like them, never really got into them and can't see myself loving their music.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

I'm indifferent.

[alytee123]

I pretty much have the opposite oppinion of most of you and everyone else I talk to in that I dont really like their first album but love Hypnotize and Mezmerize very much.

[Clunge]

SOAD are a band I've always enjoyed, but never loved.

Mesmerize is a fab album but I can't stand most of Hypnotize. Their other three all have some great songs and some truly awful songs.

[VomitStainedCretin]

SOAD's riffs sound far more interesting when stoned. Im not a huge fan but I dont hate them, listening to them at parties and stuff is fun every so often.

[Shattered_Future]

First 2 were good, Steal This Album had a few decent songs, other 2 were crap.

[Grumma]

listening to them at parties and stuff is fun every so often.

Yeah BYOB and Radio/Video get played pretty regularly at the parties of people I went to school with

[Sleepy]

THE armenian metal band!

Out of how many others?

[Eliminator]

Out of the only one he knows.

[antihippy]

^^ are there any others? wouldbe interseted.

[Yield]

Their two recent albums got me into them, and now the first two are my favorites. I like SOAD pretty well, but Mes/Hyp not so much.

[Grumma]

Out of how many others?

Actually the way he worded it suggest there's only one

[antihippy]

^^ as i said...... i would be interested if there are any others........

[Grumma]

Could be worth having a look at this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oriental_metal

as well as the other genres they have at the bottom

[antihippy]

whao.... i never knew behemoth is oriental metal.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Wikipedia + genres = fail

most of the time.

[Grumma]

True.

But it's worth having a look around

[antihippy]

i like orphaned land though.

[badtaste]

So why don't people like nu-metal? i have never really understood the real reason why people are quick to bag this genre.

Is it the simpleness of the music? The subjects/themes dealt with in their songs? the 13 year old fans (who seem to never grow up, or maybe nu-metal only applies to 13 year olds)?

Are SOTD nu-metal? I thought nu-metal was generally rapping over metal riffs.

[Grumma]

Dunno . ..

I a) don't mind some nu-metal and b) don't think SOAD are nu-metal anyway

[Sleepy]

Are SOTD nu-metal? I thought nu-metal was generally rapping over metal riffs.

You're thinking of Rage Against The Machine, and they're awesome.

SOAD, on the other hand, not so much.

[badtaste]

You're thinking of Rage Against The Machine, and they're awesome.

SOAD, on the other hand, not so much.

Not quite. I was thinking Slipknot, Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit, etc... ROTM seem to be an exception. I guess the music itself is different. ROTM is more old school bluesy riffs, while nunumetal is more noise type riffs.

[Grumma]

Yeah I would use KoRn as more of a typical nu-metal band then Rage Against the Machine

[antihippy]

i wouldn'treally put soad in nu metal.

they only rap in one song, and that's a cover of "shame" which they did with the wu tang clan.

[alytee123]

Not quite. I was thinking Slipknot, Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit, etc... ROTM seem to be an exception. I guess the music itself is different. ROTM is more old school bluesy riffs, while nunumetal is more noise type riffs.

I assume you mean 'RATM'. Rage are definately not nu metal. I still dont really agree with saying Slipknot are nu-metal.

[badtaste]

I assume you mean 'RATM'. Rage are definately not nu metal. I still dont really agree with saying Slipknot are nu-metal.

Ah yes, my mistake (unless there are bands with that acronym).

Yeh, back in the day, I didn't think Slipknot were nu-metal as well. Their music is a bizarre mix of various sounds. I think they're light-heavy metal, as opposed to heavy, heavy metal. Actually, I have no idea.

[Sleepy]

I'm not saying RATM is numetal.

I'm saying that RATM is rapping over metal riffs.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

SoaD used to be my favorite band. I was in love with all three of their early albums, but I was severely dissapointed with Mezmerize and Hypnotize. I rarely listen to any of their stuff any more, but they're a solid band nonetheless.

[PepsiMetal]

Yea same. Their earlier albums up to Toxicity, and even Steal this Album were pretty good. The double CD, as always, sucks major ***. Plus Daron singing is an insult to my ears. I read on wikipedia that Serj is working a solo album, that should be interesting.

But yea like Jake, I rarely listen to their stuff anymore. Not sure why to be honest, but just don't.

[Grumma]

Ah yes, my mistake (unless there are bands with that acronym).

Yeh, back in the day, I didn't think Slipknot were nu-metal as well. Their music is a bizarre mix of various sounds. I think they're light-heavy metal, as opposed to heavy, heavy metal. Actually, I have no idea.

I always type RAGM for some reason . . .