Top 100 Metal Bands

[Riva]

Well, what an interesting last round we had. Opeth, Death and Iron Maiden went through, with the usual bitching, flaming, arguing and complaining that accompanies every poll. So why has this last round bothered me so much? I dunno, I mean, only 5% is directed at me (the holder of the contest), yes I seem to be taking every petty insult on both sides of the argument personally, probably since I'm a big fan of almost all the bands in this round (a rare thing, apparently) and as such, the pissing contest this last round devolved into has made me reconsider my opinion of R&M as a whole.

We have a diverse crowd of chaps and ladies, from different backgrounds, of different ages, and with different tastes in music. This is a great thing, because not only do you have a good chance of finding someone who shares your love for genre X or band Y or riff Z, but you always have someone to spar with, to debate a little topic in a mature way. That's the appeal of the interweb, I feel. And most people enjoy a good argument, just like I do, but I've noticed that a lot of the fun that we had fighting with each other in the old days is gone.

I don't want to turn this into a "golden age" reminiscence, so I'll stick to the point at hand. We have older people, around 18, 19 and up, and the younger crowd of 14-17. Yet this latest round made me reconsider my opinion of you all, since it seemed like a fight between a bunch of 8 year olds over which power ranger could fly the Millenium Falcon the best. It was inane, repetitive, incessantly annoying and just plain immature.

Because of this, I'm not running the final. And I don't think I'll be approving any future polls or competitions similar to this in R&M in the future, though I certainly don't speak for Bart or Jelle.

Sorry.

[Egggo]

what about me did you reconsider your opinion of me since i (surprisingly) wasn't involved oh god

[Grumma]

Yeah I posted a dozen times in the thread then gave up.

I wasn't even going to vote in the final

[Riva]

what about me did you reconsider your opinion of me since i (surprisingly) wasn't involved oh god

My opinion of you will never change :-*

Make of that what you will, old boy.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

yeah I was pretty over this comp when this last round started.

the only that really annoyed me was the people getting upset because their favourite smaller band was (predicatably) getting beaten by more popular bands. ugh.

[Huber]

R&M isn't as mature and open minded as it used to be. Now it's mostly immaturity with a dash of elitism that gets way too out of hand.

[AA-12]

Death wins by default. Go away Metallica fags.

/starts a new war for the ages

[Grumma]

Or the people claiming bands such as Judas Priest and Death sucked in worthless posts such as

"Judas Priest are the worst band ever"

*edit* directed at Mr Apocalyptic

[heavy metal kid]

Death wins by default. Go away Metallica fags.

/starts a new war for the ages


Actually, Metallica remains as the best metal band in R&M since they won the last competition.

What a shame really, I thought this competition was more mature than last one.

[AA-12]

Haha, I was sarcastic, though I do think Death is infinitely better than Metallica. Just personal taste though.

[Egggo]

My opinion of you will never change :-*

Make of that what you will, old boy.

brotherly love is eternal <3

[AA-12]

Hahaha, that location is excellent.

[Grumma]

Thanks whoever cleaned up my posts :p

For whatever reason this site runs REALLY slow sometimes. And I'm mouse click happy when it does

[repcak]

wow, i really don't know what to say. i voted for bands i like, but i never read the whole thread or posted anything;
at least i can imagine what was going on and i understand you riva.

[Grumma]

wow, i really don't know what to say. i voted for bands i like, but i never read the whole thread or posted anything;
at least i can imagine what was going on and i understand you riva.

Well put it this way.

Non-metallers so we're all going to hell. But what they don't know is that this thread/poll exists ;)

[Apocalyptic Raids]

For whatever reason this site runs REALLY slow sometimes. And I'm mouse click happy when it does
usually it's better to leave it, constantly refreshing and stuff makes things worse.

I was a little suprised it happened just earlier though, usually it doesn't happen at this time.

[Grumma]

Yeah it was **** slow for about 15mins.

It's alright now.

I probably made it worse cos I changed what was in my post/s a couple of times while it was loading then pressed post again

*edit* still a lil slow. ah well

[badtaste]

New idea for series of polls

Even though I think it'll work out the same as any other poll (personal tastes), I'm thinking we judge one band at a time. Uh, every Sunday there is a football program (the World Game). They have a segment where they pick out a famous football player, discuss him and then get viewers to vote where category he fits into. Poll choices include such things like "Hall of Fame", "Master", "Genius" and then so on.

[Knifeboy]

R&M isn't as mature and open minded as it used to be.

You should have seen this place 4 years ago... it's infinitely better now than back then

(but yes, it has been better than it is now)

[Steerpike]

This is actually why I avoided posting in most of the voting threads. There wasn't any worthwhile conversation to be had.

[Josh]

there very rarely is any decent discussion in any of the voting threads. i remember in old R&M's top 100 bands / albums / songs etc, there was at least semi-decent discussion about the merits of different options on the polls, but now the stupid slagging off just goes too far.

i'm glad Jason's made this thread, it was about time something was done about it.

[Flynn]

Exactly. You can't be posting in this forum and arguing, this has to be a perfect place with no bias what-so-ever. Riva, You knew this was going to happen from the beginning. Awesome mod.

[Apocalypticon]

I'm not suprised this happened. Although I must admit I contributed alot to the problem.

[Det_Nosnip]

The results weren't too bad...Death, Maiden, Opeth, and Metallica or something right?

[Shadows]

Me <3's Jason.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

What, but we haven't had the 'ultimate color' poll yet. That's when the real debating was gonna go down. :upset:

[Kage]

This thread phayles tbh.

[Stoo]

Is it possible to have a poll but somehow disable posting? I posted the band I voted for, which is pointless... Just poll? Just making a suggestion.

[ATM]

Not surprised that this happened, hopefully we can do something like this again and not get all childish about it.

[Mr. Ron]

I just don't get how Judas priest beats out bands like Isis and agalloch. I mean come on, he has songs like RAM IT DOWN. Absolutely terrible. I'll stop bitching though.

[PepsiMetal]

As I said in the other thread, Best/Top/etc... Polls will just prove which band is most popular at the place the poll is taken. So it really means nothing, just fun I guess? To see who is popular now, who was popular last year, and who will be next year, etc...

I just don't get how Judas priest beats out bands like Isis and agalloch. I mean come on, he has songs like RAM IT DOWN. Absolutely terrible. I'll stop bitching though.

NP: Judas Priest - All Guns Blazing :cool:

[Mr. Ron]

Isis- So did we. :eek:

[Deth]

Ram it Down is such a great song.

How is Judas Priest a 'he'?

[Txus]

It's more of a "she".

And Neurosis >> Isis.

[Mr. Ron]

I actually agree. Neurosis is better than Isis in some areas.

[Txus]

Finally someone agrees.

[Mr. Ron]

Neurosis uses samples and keyboards waayyy better than isis I think. They also know how to make songs really heavy. Not saying Isis cant (they do) but Neurosis just seem to make songs that just feel heavy.

[Txus]

They're the fathers of Sludge.

[Cocaine]

And their new album is perfect.

[Txus]

Did you get A Sun That Never Sets, Tyler?

[Cocaine]

Did you get A Sun That Never Sets, Tyler?

Not yet, but I'm listening to their new one right now :cool:

[Txus]

I just got the new album, I'm going to listen to it later today :cool:

And get A Sun That Never Sets NOW!

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Well I have one thing to say about the forums sucking. Stupid **** like this
http://sputnikmusic.com/forums/showpost.php?p=14393239&postcount=32409
would have slid a few months ago, but for the past few months, or since summer, there has been a high tolerance for crap like that.

Suuure, maybe one or two spammers wouldn't hurt all that bad..But their stupidity has rubbed off on a lot of users, myself included I'm sure.

So, before you blame us for becoming idiots, maybe set an example of 'correct' posting and ban those who aren't doing so.

[Cocaine]

Before you post, think, "What would Tyler do?".

[Grumma]

I just don't get how Judas priest beats out bands like Isis and agalloch. I mean come on, he has songs like RAM IT DOWN. Absolutely terrible. I'll stop bitching though.

That's the type of post that put the brakes on the pol. (though there were much worse posts)

[Mr. Ron]

Sorry maybe I'll stop voicing my opinion all together to make you feel more comfortable.

[Grumma]

I don't mind you voicing your opinion. But at least have some kind of evidence behind it other than
It's terrible

[PepsiMetal]

Sorry maybe I'll stop voicing my opinion all together to make you feel more comfortable.

Thanks. I appreciate that. :p

[Mr. Ron]

I don't mind you voicing your opinion. But at least have some kind of evidence behind it other than

I did say why. Bands like agalloch and isis have way better concepts to their albums, better atmosphere, better musicianship, lyrics, etc etc.



Pepsi you're lucky I enjoy johnny cash!:p

[RNR]

Although I don't really like them, I think that Opeth deserves to be there. Death? wtf? They're not that good and they inspired 500 bands that all sound the same, Iron Maiden are one of my favorite bands but to be fair to death, Iron Maiden inspired 1000 bands that all sound the same.

I'll vote for Maiden.

[Darkness]

Well I have one thing to say about the forums sucking. Stupid **** like this
http://sputnikmusic.com/forums/showpost.php?p=14393239&postcount=32409
would have slid a few months ago, but for the past few months, or since summer, there has been a high tolerance for crap like that.

Suuure, maybe one or two spammers wouldn't hurt all that bad..But their stupidity has rubbed off on a lot of users, myself included I'm sure.

So, before you blame us for becoming idiots, maybe set an example of 'correct' posting and ban those who aren't doing so.

Agreed 110%, especially on that last statement.

[Thor]

Well I have one thing to say about the forums sucking. Stupid **** like this
http://sputnikmusic.com/forums/showpost.php?p=14393239&postcount=32409
would have slid a few months ago, but for the past few months, or since summer, there has been a high tolerance for crap like that.

Suuure, maybe one or two spammers wouldn't hurt all that bad..But their stupidity has rubbed off on a lot of users, myself included I'm sure.

So, before you blame us for becoming idiots, maybe set an example of 'correct' posting and ban those who aren't doing so.
Yeah, in case you haven't noticed yet Eliminator's posts are generally centered around telling me how stupid I am. It's just not needed around here...and it's just not funny any more.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I did say why. Bands like agalloch and isis have way better concepts to their albums, better atmosphere, better musicianship, lyrics, etc etc.



Pepsi you're lucky I enjoy johnny cash!:p

If you really think you've backed up your opinion by stating things that Isis and Agalloch do 'better' than Judas Priest, then you probably are what Riva is talking about.

[Kage]

Well what the hell "evidence" is he supposed to provide for an opinion?

[Txus]

Agreed 110%, especially on that last statement.

Second'd

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Well what the hell "evidence" is he supposed to provide for an opinion?

Well for one, who the **** would compare the atmosphere of JUDAS ****ING PRIEST to post metal bands?

And for two, musicianship is entirely debateable. It's not like any members of Isis display any great understanding of music in general, and Agalloch's drummer is about as drab as Halford is gay, and while their guitarist throw in a neat sweep pick about once an album.

There is some "evidence" against his opinion. Simply because I can.

[Darkness]

I actually really like Agalloch's drummer, he fits really well. Mainly on Ashes.

[Thor]

Wow, rough times in the R&M world.

At least it's not as bad as the Anti-Poseur crew from a few years ago.

[Kage]

I actually really like Agalloch's drummer, he fits really well. Mainly on Ashes.

Eh, "he fits really well" is a pretty weak argument imo. If that's all you can really say about him then he's demonstably mediocre.

[Darkness]

Well I'm no drum expert, but I think he sounds really, really good with the music. I have no reason to defend the fact that I think he sounds good. :)

[Grumma]

Even though fitting really well is arguably the most important thing about being a musician?

[Kage]

Even though fitting really well is arguably the most important thing about being a musician?

Lol. No. The ability to "fit in" is pretty much understood about being a musician at all. If that's all you can say for a professional musician, that's real weak.

[Darkness]

Well I'm no drum expert, but I think he sounds really, really good with the music. I have no reason to defend the fact that I think he sounds good. :)

I don't know if you got to see that or not Kage.

[Mr. Ron]

If you really think you've backed up your opinion by stating things that Isis and Agalloch do 'better' than Judas Priest, then you probably are what Riva is talking about.

Its hard to compare two bands in different sub genres, so the only thing you can really do is look at their musicianship. Do you really think Judas Priest is the on the same level as isis as far as that goes?

[Grumma]

Just because they're better at playing their instruments doesn't mean they're a better band

[AA-12]

Agalloch is better than Priest, but Isis is far from even being close to Priest.

[Mr. Ron]

Just because they're better at playing their instruments doesn't mean they're a better band

Musicianship wise they are, and thats a HUGE blow.


Seriously, because these two bands are pretty different, you have to base it off of musicianship.

[Riva]

Musicianship wise they are, and thats a HUGE blow.


Seriously, because these two bands are pretty different, you have to base it off of musicianship.

Errr... I wouldn't say Isis are better at their instruments than Judas Priest overall. They beat them in the bass and drum departments, but guitar-wise Priest edges them out, and Rob's vocal ability in his heyday blows Isis and even Agalloch out of the water.


And yes, Jake is right about you being one of the people I meant, since half the time you only wrote crap like "lmao lmao lmao" which is hardly a convincing argument, and a pretty infantile insult as well.

And Darkness, if you want me to start cracking down on posters like I used to, I'm fine with that.

[Mr. Ron]

Errr... I wouldn't say Isis are better at their instruments than Judas Priest overall. They beat them in the bass and drum departments, but guitar-wise Priest edges them out, and Rob's vocal ability in his heyday blows Isis and even Agalloch out of the water.


And yes, Jake is right about you being one of the people I meant, since half the time you only wrote crap like "lmao lmao lmao" which is hardly a convincing argument, and a pretty infantile insult as well.

And Darkness, if you want me to start cracking down on posters like I used to, I'm fine with that.

I don't consider schoolgirl-like screeching to be a good, but hey that might just be me.


I was joking with the "lmao" thing because I really did think it was funny. Not trying to be an asshole or anything it's just what I think.

[Grumma]

Why would you argue with a mod?

Silly

[Darkness]

And Darkness, if you want me to start cracking down on posters like I used to, I'm fine with that.
I'd really like that, and I'm not the only one.

[Mr. Ron]

Why would you argue with a mod?

Silly

Because it doesn't matter what title they have, no opinion should ever be held back.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

I don't consider schoolgirl-like screeching to be a good, but hey that might just be me.
Whether or not you like his vocal style you can't deny his ability.

[Mr. Ron]

Whether or not you like his vocal style you can't deny his ability.

I do not deny it I just think it sounds terrible.

[Riva]

I do not deny it I just think it sounds terrible.

Your opinion != musicianship though.

[AA-12]

I say just close this thread. It's only going further downhill.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

It's only going further downhill.

By exposing why R&M has sucked recently?

[Riva]

Actually yeah, this thread is a prime example.

Well, I guess it's time to get Nazi again.

[Kage]

I think people are making it out to be worse than it is. This place is more fun now than it has been in the past year for sure.

[AA-12]

Nazis \m/

>_>

<_<

[Permanent Solution]

Oh Jason :(

[Darkness]

I think people are making it out to be worse than it is. This place is more fun now than it has been in the past year for sure.

Really man? Maybe in a poor comedic way, but in terms of actual music discussion... it's at an all time low.

[Kage]

Hardly an all time low. It was severely worse six months ago.

[Mr. Ron]

Really man? Maybe in a poor comedic way, but in terms of actual music discussion... it's at an all time low.

So what is actual music discussion in your opinion?

[Kage]

People want to come on here to relax and have fun; which does not include typing out research papers for every opinion on a given band.

[Grumma]

In Before Lock

[Darkness]

People want to come on here to relax and have fun; which does not include typing out research papers for every opinion on a given band.

I think a mix of both would be perfect. You have to have the funny, relaxed conversation. But isn't it nice to talk intelligently to someone else about music without someone calling someone else a stupid squirrel? I mean come on now.

[Mr. Ron]

I think a mix of both would be perfect. You have to have the funny, relaxed conversation. But isn't it nice to talk intelligently to someone else about music without someone calling someone else a stupid squirrel? I mean come on now.

I honestly only see very few examples of serious name calling.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

People want to come on here to relax and have fun; which does not include typing out research papers for every opinion on a given band.
That's very true, but when people try and engage in an argument posting that way it gets a bit silly.

[Kage]

Yeah but everyone knows to just let Eliminator-esque comments go in one ear and out the other and try to derive as much humor out of it as you can, as little or much as it may be.

There might be a little too much of that stuff going on but when you're just discussing opinions about the band there's no reason not to be blunt about it.

[Darkness]

But the un-serious name calling can be just as annoying. It contributes nothing.

[Mr. Ron]

Its the internet man, you're always going to have those people here and there, but seriously at this point in time R&M is in pretty good condition...go into any dedicated band thread and you'll see actual, serious discussion going on.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

the polls always seem to bring out the worst in everyone.

sux becuase they can be quite fun :(

[Darkness]

R&M obviously isn't in good condition if a Mod doesn't even feel the need to finish this poll due to poor reactions from the forum members. Come on, look at the situation.

But ok, I'm done. It doesn't matter.

the polls always seem to bring out the worst in everyone.

sux becuase they can be quite fun :(

Yeah, I enjoy the polls... It's interesting to see the results. To bad this had to happen.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Recent topic in Opeth thread: "Which member has the biggest dick" and "that lady friend of Tojes who happens to like Opeth is hot"

Just something I thought was worth pointing out.

[Mr. Ron]

R&M obviously isn't in good condition if a Mod doesn't even feel the need to finish this poll due to poor reactions from the forum members. Come on, look at the situation.

But ok, I'm done. It doesn't matter.



Yeah, I enjoy the polls... It's interesting to see the results. To bad this had to happen.

Thats one thread....you're overreacting.


I'm done as well. None of this is personal man.

[Darkness]

Recent topic in Opeth thread: "Which member has the biggest dick" and "that lady friend of Tojes who happens to like Opeth is hot"

Just something I thought was worth pointing out.

This is why I use to have the most posts in the old Opeth thread, but don't in the new one.

I'm done as well. None of this is personal man.

For sure.

[Mr. Ron]

Recent topic in Opeth thread: "Which member has the biggest dick" and "that lady friend of Tojes who happens to like Opeth is hot"

Just something I thought was worth pointing out.

Oh man you better get in there and tell them to stop having fun!

[Kage]

The Opeth thread is the most worthless piece of ****...not really a representative thread.

Also, I think Riva is overreacting. :-*

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Actually I post in that thread.

[Mr. Ron]

I'm not suggesting that band threads get off topic and have senseless convos at times...but really...so what? It doesn't effect you.

[Kage]

I'm not suggesting that band threads get off topic and have senseless convos at times...but really...so what? It doesn't effect* you.

*affect

[Mr. Ron]

Not in my little world! :p

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

go into any dedicated band thread and you'll see actual, serious discussion going on.

I was just pointing out the fact that you lied here, that's all.

[Mr. Ron]

I was just pointing out the fact that you lied here, that's all.

"You will see serious discussion" is not the same as saying "You will ONLY see serious discussion".

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Okay thank you for clearing that up. I see we were on the same page all along?

[Mr. Ron]

Probably. I don't want to argue with you guys, I like and respect you all. :chug:

[Kage]

Probably. I don't want to argue with you guys, I like and respect you all. :chug:

All the more reason to argue.

[Nostalgia]

if you want me to start cracking down on posters like I used to, I'm fine with that.
This.

Eliminator needs to be dealt with also.

[Sleepy]

Eliminator needs to be dealt with also.

What? Eliminator is one of the best posters in R&M!!!

:)

Seriously, though. No need to go all crazy serious on the guy. You just need to take him with a grain of salt.

[AA-12]

Elim's a nice guy.

[Nostalgia]

It comes to the point where it's just bullshit. Everyone in the community thread messes around, but Eliminator's spam and strange attempts at trolling override his rare constructive posts. Plus, he follows Thor around like a ****ing dog.

I'm just saying that he posts in R&M like it's the Pit, which it is not.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

I don't have a problem with Eliminator's posting, and Sleepy has a point.

[Nostalgia]

Heh.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

:confused:

[AA-12]

He's giggling because clearly something is tickling him.

<_<

[Nostalgia]

Nah, that was just my very blunt way of implying "eff these fags for not agreeing with me."

But 'sup guys, it's coo.

[Slapping Penguin]

since it seemed like a fight between a bunch of 8 year olds over which power ranger could fly the Millenium Falcon the best.

SORRY! But that is differently the best arguement I have ever heard and needs to be started!

Haha Jason you make me laugh.

[Angmar]

It comes to the point where it's just bullshit. Everyone in the community thread messes around, but Eliminator's spam and strange attempts at trolling override his rare constructive posts. Plus, he follows Thor around like a ****ing dog.

I'm just saying that he posts in R&M like it's the Pit, which it is not.

Yeah I pretty much agree, I just do not see the humor in the things he does.

[munky_magik]

Ignore list.

[RetiredAt21]

R&M isn't as mature and open minded as it used to be. Now it's mostly immaturity with a dash of elitism that gets way too out of hand.

LOL, shut up, you have a Tool avatar.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Way to prove his point.

[Verikansa]

I just voted...


WHERES MY DAMN RESULTS! :mad:



I understand though its been quite reterted around here lately expecially since theres not much to talk about that hasn't been done the death many times before...

[AA-12]

LOL, shut up, you have a Tool avatar.

Hahaha

[Nostalgia]

LOL, shut up, you have a Tool avatar.

Yeah, well you have a retarded black man in yours.

[AA-12]

Tyrone Biggums is the man Austin.

[Grumma]

Yeah, well you have a retarded black man in yours.

And he's British

[papa_gette]

i say Dreamtheater wooooooooooooooooooooooo

[AA-12]

Um...

[papa_gette]

come on they are sick as buz

[AA-12]

Read the thread.

[papa_gette]

ahaha i did, but DT comme on biatch???

[AA-12]

I don't like them. I used to though.

[Darkness]

Is DT even considered a metal band? They have two albums that can be considered metal. The rest is rock.

[GenuineImitation]

Is DT even considered a metal band? They have two albums that can be considered metal. The rest is rock.

The rest of the stuff is borderline rock and metal. Some consider it rock and some consider it metal. I consider them mainly rock.

[papa_gette]

man i rekon they are metal/rock. i just love the sound of petrucci's guitar

[Grumma]

Well this is the Rock and Metal section of the board . .

Even though this thread/poll is just Metal