Recommend some good heavy metal...

[JoshIsMe]

Excluding death metal. Seriously...it's very difficult for me to enjoy anything from the genre with the lack of variety in both lyrical subjects and moods (all death/black/doom metal songs seem to attempt to evoke the same sense of brutality, fear, and/or sadness). Not to mention the vocal style. Though I suppose you could call maudlin of the Well, who's music I do like, death metal...but that would be using the term loosely. Anyways, this thread wasn't really meant to be a rant about death metal, so much as being a way for me to ask for recommendations of good metal bands that aren't death/black/doom/etc.

Examples of modern metal that I DO like: Mastodon, Trivium, Lamb of God, (as previously stated) maudlin of the Well.

Yeah, not much there. Which is why I made this thread.

[Stoo]

Metallica yay!

Seriously.

2,000 posts yay!

[Cocaine]

Check out Root's later work. They were a black metal band, but their later work is just really dark, epic and all around badass. Got a real doomy feel, and their vocalist has the deepest voice I've heard in a long while.

[pixiesfanyo]

Cannibal Corpse

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

Titanium.

[Moon Flavor]

Turn on mtv2.

Or if you're too lazy:

In Flames, Opeth, Arch Enemy, Korn, Evanescense, Children of Bodom.


...

Okay, some serious answers:

Arcturus, Orphaned Land, Jesu, Novembre, Vintersorg, and Yndi Halda.

Yndi Halda isn't metal, but you still need to check them out.

Welcome to the forums, but next time, don't be an *** towards any other genre. At least half of the people here listen to Death Metal/extreme metal derivatives, and you'll surely just be overwhelmed by smart-*** posts such as mine.

[Wish]

I agree 100% with jcs497 and his Orphaned Land suggestion. Great band.

[RNR]

Oh gross. Lamb of God and Trivium? Just give up now.

[JoshIsMe]

Metallica yay!

Seriously.

2,000 posts yay!
Thanks but I already have all of their good albums. :lol:

I'm really looking for modern metal bands, or at least more obscure early metal bands. I already have stuff by Megadeth, Metallica, Iron Maiden, Pantera, etc.

Then there are power metal bands I listen to...albeit rarely. I didn't mention them at first because I'm not looking for anymore power metal really...Iced Earth, Blind Guardian, Symphony X, Avenged Sevenfold (meh, I consider them power metal. It's got that cheese factor and the right sound...), and Kamelot are enough for me. But...well...what the hell, if anyone knows of anything really good I suppose I'll take power metal recommendations too.

[Cocaine]

LOST HORIZON
srsly

[Stoo]

You didn't say that.

[RNR]

Helloween, Rhapsody (of Fire), Angra, Manowar, Hammerfall. All better than modern crap Lamb of God metal.

edit: and lost horizon.

[JoshIsMe]

Turn on mtv2.

Or if you're too lazy:

In Flames, Opeth, Arch Enemy, Korn, Evanescense, Children of Bodom.


...

Okay, some serious answers:

Arcturus, Orphaned Land, Jesu, Novembre, Vintersorg, and Yndi Halda.

Yndi Halda isn't metal, but you still need to check them out.

Welcome to the forums, but next time, don't be an *** towards any other genre. At least half of the people here listen to Death Metal/extreme metal derivatives, and you'll surely just be overwhelmed by smart-*** posts such as mine.
I don't really think I was being an ***. Personally, I just don't like death metal. I know for a fact that there are people who will laugh their asses off at some of the stuff I listen to. But I'm not gonna flame them or change my musical preferences to be cool. Oh yeah, and thanks for the recommendations. I'll check them out.

[RNR]

Chill out, jcs. He just said that he didn't like extreme metal. That's not unreasonable. It kind of sucks.

[Cocaine]

I'd avoid Angra, they have zero emotion. So robotic.

[JoshIsMe]

Helloween, Rhapsody (of Fire), Angra, Manowar, Hammerfall. All better than modern crap Lamb of God metal.

edit: and lost horizon.
Heard really good stuff about Manowar, Helloween and Hammerfall. Those other two I know nothing about. I'll look into them though. What are the best albums to start with for those five?

[Apocalypticon]

Kalmah

[AA-12]

Paracoccidioidomicosisproctitissarcomucosis

[Cocaine]

Lost Horizon have only two albums, both of which are essential to the Power Metal genre, but I'd start with 'Awakening the World'. Manowar, go for either 'Battle Hymns' or 'Kings of Metal'. Helloween start with 'Keeper of the Seven Keys Part I' and for Hammerfall I'd start with 'Legacy of Kings'.

[JoshIsMe]

Lost Horizon have only two albums, both of which are essential to the Power Metal genre, but I'd start with 'Awakening the World'. Manowar, go for either 'Battle Hymns' or 'Kings of Metal'. Helloween start with 'Keeper of the Seven Keys Part I' and for Hammerfall I'd start with 'Legacy of Kings'.
Alright, cool. Thanks.

[Moon Flavor]

Chill out, jcs. He just said that he didn't like extreme metal. That's not unreasonable. It kind of sucks.

Sorry. "Quit being a dick, jcs" was an acceptable answer, but whenever I slag on someone, they say "chill out" to me. Why is this? I'm an extremely chilled out person. Do I seem high-strung? I'm gonna have to rephrase then:

Like....duuuuuuuude, you have to like....wow, this pot is good. What was I saying? Oh yeahhhhhhhhh....uhhh....you have to like, be open minded, and accept that while you may dislike music, doesn't mean it displays the characteristics you think....like....yeah dudeeeee....like, it seems like death metal is repetitive and emotionless to you, but that's because you haven't explored the boundries of the genre....and likeeee dudeeeee, you gotta keep your mind open and experiment mannnn....

[Lunch]

I...smoke pot....and type...like...I'm....a stoner...dude...bro...chill...Phish

[RNR]

Heard really good stuff about Manowar, Helloween and Hammerfall. Those other two I know nothing about. I'll look into them though. What are the best albums to start with for those five?

Helloween - Keep of the seven keys part 1.
Rhapsody - Err, Power of the Dragonflame. All of their albums are very similar.
Hammerfall - Crimson Thunder
Manowar - Warriors of the World
Angra - Angels Cry

[Inflames]

haste the day, misery index, demiricious, a life once lost...
thats good metal.

[Moon Flavor]

I...smoke pot....and type...like...I'm....a stoner...dude...bro...chill...Phish

Phish has too much growling for my tastes, dudeee....I only listen to Yanni....that ****'s trippy...

[AA-12]

^Noooooooooooooooooooo

MI is good though.

[RNR]

Sorry. "Quit being a dick, jcs" was an acceptable answer, but whenever I slag on someone, they say "chill out" to me. Why is this? I'm an extremely chilled out person. Do I seem high-strung? I'm gonna have to rephrase then:

Like....duuuuuuuude, you have to like....wow, this pot is good. What was I saying? Oh yeahhhhhhhhh....uhhh....you have to like, be open minded, and accept that while you may dislike music, doesn't mean it displays the characteristics you think....like....yeah dudeeeee....like, it seems like death metal is repetitive and emotionless to you, but that's because you haven't explored the boundries of the genre....and likeeee dudeeeee, you gotta keep your mind open and experiment mannnn....


Err, ok, man. You don't have to go all sarcastic/stoner hippy on me. Maybe you were "chill" or not or umm. I don't know. It just seemed like you took too much offence to his death metal comment.

:smoke:

I...smoke pot....and type...like...I'm....a stoner...dude...bro...chill...Phish

Yay for Phish and dude and bro.

[fuzzKaT4Lyfe]

megadeth
ministry

[i am the robots]

Excluding death metal. Seriously...it's very difficult for me to enjoy anything from the genre with the lack of variety in both lyrical subjects and moods (all death/black/doom metal songs seem to attempt to evoke the same sense of brutality, fear, and/or sadness). Not to mention the vocal style. Though I suppose you could call maudlin of the Well, who's music I do like, death metal...but that would be using the term loosely. Anyways, this thread wasn't really meant to be a rant about death metal, so much as being a way for me to ask for recommendations of good metal bands that aren't death/black/doom/etc.

Examples of modern metal that I DO like: Mastodon, Trivium, Lamb of God, (as previously stated) maudlin of the Well.

Yeah, not much there. Which is why I made this thread.

lol, okay.

I don't care what you just said because you're wrong, so I suggest:

Through The Eyes Of The Dead
Job For A Cowboy
All Shall Perish
See You Next Tuesday
Dead Man In Reno
Converge
Flesh And Blood Robot
Hacksaw To The Throat
It Dies Today
Mirrorthrone
Drudkh

Yay for Phish and dude and bro.

Man-Dude Vs. Dude-Brah

[punkguitarist549]

lol, okay.

I don't care what you just said because you're wrong, so I suggest:

Through The Eyes Of The Dead
Job For A Cowboy
All Shall Perish
See You Next Tuesday
Dead Man In Reno
Converge
Flesh And Blood Robot
Hacksaw To The Throat
It Dies Today
Mirrorthrone
Drudkh



Man-Dude Vs. Dude-Brah

Nice selection :thumb:
I love those bands. Do you like Sikth?

[Apocalypticon]

Through The Eyes Of The Dead
Job For A Cowboy
All Shall Perish
See You Next Tuesday
Dead Man In Reno
Converge
Flesh And Blood Robot
Hacksaw To The Throat
It Dies Today
Mirrorthrone
Drudkh




Whats with all the crappy bands and then all of the sudden an amazing BM band?

[CaptainWaits]

Amon Amarth
Amorphis
Anata
Angra
Anthrax
Atheist
Bal-Sagoth
Blind Guardian
Brainstorm
Carcass
Corrosion of Confomrity
Death Angel
Demons & Wizards
Dew-Scented
Dissection
Edguy
Einherjer
Exodus
Falkenbach
Finntroll
Gamma Ray
Heavenly
Iced Earth
Immolation
Isania
Korpiklaani
Megadeth
Meshuggah
Metallica
Nevermore
Nocturnal Rites
Overkill
Pantera
Rage
Rebel Meets Rebel
Rhapsody
Sunn O)))
Symphony X
Testament
Vintersorg
Wintersun


I just looked through my CD's

[Cocaine]

Converge isn't crappy :(

[Apocalypticon]

Converge aren't bad just really overrated.

[Cocaine]

Certainly better than Drudkh.

[punkguitarist549]

Ireally couldn't get into Job For A Cowboy for some reason.

[Apocalypticon]

No way. It isn't even a competition between the two.

[i am the robots]

You're just wrong, Drudkh and JFAC are two of the best bands currently in their genres, it just so happens their genres are good for seperate reasons.

Whats with all the crappy bands and then all of the sudden an amazing BM band?

:lol: okay.

@punkguitarist: I used to like Sikth, but they kind of annoy me now.

Also, TS, check out Architects.

[Cocaine]

No way. It isn't even a competition between the two.

Yeah you're right. They're way better.

[Apocalypticon]

Yeah Drudkh are way better.

[i am the robots]

Converge aren't bad just really overrated.

And Drudkh isn't?

Converge is like four thousand times better than Drudkh, I'm not even kidding.

[Apocalypticon]

Drudkh aren't overrated in the slightest.

[Anglachel]

Listen to like......woah what was I sayin?



Oh yeah. Swallow the Mo.....Sun. Yeah. Swallow The Sun.

[i am the robots]

Drudkh aren't overrated in the slightest.

Amongst the black metal community they are.

[Apocalypticon]

No they aren't. They deserve all the attention they get in the BM community. And even if they are overrated in the BM community, Converge are overrated throughout the whole of the metal community.

[BoboTheRagingHobo]

Yeah, going to have to agree with Apocalypticon.

Drudkh are not overrated, they just have had a decent amount of attention lately due to their masterpiece Blood In Our Wells.

As Coverge has recieved a hefty amount of cocksucking through out alot of areas of the forums.

Also Drudkh doesn't have horrible vocals

[Cocaine]

Converge are recognized as being as good as they are by the punk, metal and hardcore communities. Drudkh is a band lots of Black Metal fans like.

See the difference? Overrated is meaningless when you're as amazing as Converge. Jane Doe is one of the greatest albums I've ever heard. I like Blood In Our Wells, but it's nothing to phone home about.

Either way, they're both the total opposite of what the TS is looking for.

[i am the robots]

Converge's vocals > Drudkh's tbh.

Also, Converge's lyrical content > most other lyrical content.

Also, Converge's influencial standing > most other metal bands.

See the difference? Overrated is meaningless when you're as amazing as Converge. Jane Doe is one of the greatest albums I've ever heard. I like Blood In Our Wells, but it's nothing to phone home about.

Agreed on all accounts.

[Cocaine]

Even their artwork is better.

[i am the robots]

Well, not the artwork on the re-releases.

[Apocalypticon]

Why and how are Converge so influential?

[BoboTheRagingHobo]

Converge are downright ****ing horrible.

And the vocalist in Converge needs to be stabbed for making such crappy vocals.

[i am the robots]

No and no.

Why and how are Converge so influential?

...

You ever hear Chiodos? You ever hear Norma Jean? You ever hear As I Lay Dying?

You know that whole, "chug chug diminished chord chug chug," thing all of those bands have in common? Guess who that's trying to sound like...

[Cocaine]

Notice how the hostility increases in every post?

Converge merged a heavy thrash and extreme metal influence with a background in hardcore and then added a cacophonous twist. They're one of the hardest bands to pin down and even beyond their esoteric sound they're widely credited for their pure pwnage. They perfected the breakdown, they made dissonance cool, and they create some of the most passionate and legitimate music around.

[Apocalypticon]

so what you are telling me is Converge are responsible for creating a whole bunch of terrible breakdown clown bands that are destroying the popular metal scene of today. yeah thats deffinately something to be proud of.

@eleventeen's post

[Cocaine]

It's something to be proud of when they're the only band to actually do it right. It's not their fault the bands trying to copy them not only suck ***, but sound nothing like them.

That's like you saying "Oh Darkthrone sucks *** because now we have a bunch of shitty bands trying to play ultra-grim raw black metal".

[Shattered_Future]

Paracoccidioidomicosisproctitissarcomucosis

Late, but that band seriously has some of the greatest songtitles ever.

Converge are significantly better technically than all of their -core bretheren. They just write really crappy music IMO, unfortunately.

And yes, the TS DOES need more Swallow The Sun.

Finally, Cocaine has the best avatar ever.

[BoboTheRagingHobo]

Notice how the hostility increases in every post?

Converge merged a heavy thrash and extreme metal influence with a background in hardcore and then added a cacophonous twist. They're one of the hardest bands to pin down and even beyond their esoteric sound they're widely credited for their pure pwnage. They perfected the breakdown, they made dissonance cool, and they create some of the most passionate and legitimate music around.


How the **** is some fat out of breath monkey screaming into a microphone with a clear intent to sound horrible be passionate?

[Cocaine]

This isn't worth arguing about since you've already convinced me you

a) have a completely unfounded opinion
b) refuse to listen to anyone who doesnt agree with you
c) clearly dont understand the band or the music they write.

[Apocalypticon]

That's like you saying "Oh Darkthrone sucks *** because now we have a bunch of shitty bands trying to play ultra-grim raw black metal".

No its not because Darkthrone are actually good and so it really isn't their fault that their are alot of crappy clone bands. But Converge are bad, and clones of a bad band will be bad.

[i am the robots]

No its not because Darkthrone are actually good and so it really isn't their fault that their are alot of crappy clone bands. But Converge are bad, and clones of a bad band will be bad.

I could listen to Soulside Journey, but I'd rather not because that album sucks.

Also, those bands aren't clones and when they try to clone their sound they fail horribly, hence their sucking.

[Shattered_Future]

Darkthrone and good don't belong in the same sentence. :smash:

[i am the robots]

Only good things Darkthrone have done are Transilvanian Hunger (song) and Too Old Too Cold for comedic value.

[BoboTheRagingHobo]

All I am trying to do is figure out why such crappy bands get praised as demi-gods amogst the masses.

I am not out to change my opinion, just understand the other opinions about said band.

[Apocalypticon]

Soulside Journey is a terrible album. But no on can deny the importance of A Blaze in the Northern Sky to the BM world.

[Shattered_Future]

They get praised because they were the first to do such a thing. Whether you think them or the bands that they influenced suck or not is not the point. The point is they were extremely influential.

Darkthrone was extremely influential too, and I think Darkthrone suck.

[Apocalypticon]

They get praised because they were the first to do such a thing.

That alone doesn't warrant the amount of whoring they get though.

[Shattered_Future]

Well, apparently some people like them. And it's a well known fact that people are stupid. :smash:

[Cocaine]

No its not because Darkthrone are actually good and so it really isn't their fault that their are alot of crappy clone bands. But Converge are bad, and clones of a bad band will be bad.

Converge are exponentially better than Darkthrone.

[Apocalypticon]

I don't want to debate if they are better than Darkthrone or not because honestly I feel that Darkthrone are just a "meh" BM band. I was using them as an example of how a band can be extremely influential and still be really overrated.

[i am the robots]

All I am trying to do is figure out why such crappy bands get praised as demi-gods amogst the masses.

I am not out to change my opinion, just understand the other opinions about said band.

It could be said likewise for you bebe. :p

Converge's sound is like, perfection for blending metal, hardcore, and grind, just like many hail the main Darkthrone albums as being perfected black metal.

If you're into the style, you almost have to be into the band.

Also, A Life Once Lost's first two albums are sweet.

[Cocaine]

My point is you can't blame Converge for spawning shitty imitations. And I dont feel any of the bands Teen listed sound anything like Converge.

And for the record, Jacob Bannon's vocal performance suits the music perfectly and pushes it to the next level. And his vocals have been fairly different on each release.

[Shattered_Future]

I think A Life Once Lost falls into that "generic" core quality.

[i am the robots]

@Cocaine: And fairly blown out at live performances since 2005.

I think A Life Once Lost falls into that "generic" core quality.

Oh, they're total sell-outs. Their new stuff is generic breakdown-"Southern"-we- suck-core.

However!

Open Your Mouth For The Speechless, In Case Of Those Appointed To Die and The Fourth Plague: Flies are both amazing albums and definately not generic.

[Shattered_Future]

Pretentious songtitles, no?

Eh, I'm not big on core in general.

[i am the robots]

I like their old stuff, just saying.

[Shattered_Future]

Yeah, I get it.

Also, TS needs some Lost Horizon.

[Cocaine]

Yeah, I get it.

Also, TS needs some Lost Horizon.

Trust me, it's been mentioned.

[Shattered_Future]

I gathered as much. It just needs to be reaffirmed.

[Cocaine]

Definitely. Now with this avatar I feel like such an uber-fanboy but I'm really not. I mean they're one of my favourites right now and I consider both of their albums to be 5/5s with ease, but still...

[Shattered_Future]

But you are unabashedly metal. And that's what matters most.

[Cocaine]

Definitely.