2002's or Giant Beats?

[the_runs]

Now that I've got my new set of D-dub's I have decided to upgrade those cymbals ( currently playing paiste 502's). No matter what anyone says I am incredibly partial to Paiste cymbals 95% (the other 5% goes to sabian) anyway I'm leaning towards the 2002 line but does anyone have any support for the giant beats? or other Paiste cymbals in general? As you can tell I'm going for that classic sound..my drum set up currently is a 16 x 24" bass 16x16 floor and a 8 by 12'' rack tom. So if I could hear some feedback they be great...thanks a bunch

[double stroke roller]

Why not mix 'em up. I like cymbals from both lines. Use your ears.

[Mr. Grill]

For classic go for Giant Beat.

[the_runs]

yeah i was thinking giant beats in the beginning but I figured 2002's to be a better option as they were far more popular...at least throughout the 70's (until they were discontiued) and Im thinking that the 2002's will be more versatile for both a classic and modern sound...im still unsure though....does anyone actully use either of these who could tell me from experience?

[double stroke roller]

I had a 17" 2002 crash and it had a zepplin vibe to it. I tried the Giant Beat hat's at the local drum shop and they sounded great. Either way you can't go wrong.

[oliv_da_skinmasher]

Mix of them both, both great lines

[Hunted By a Freak]

someone please define "classic sound" for me

:rolleyes:

[pitchfork]

Try both series out and pick for yourself man, its what I have done, now I just have to extract the finances.
I've finally decided on buying a base pack of giant beats (15,18,24) and some singles of signature and 2002 series.
Then whatever else appeals to me when I have the funds.

[stevensonmat2]

someone please define "classic sound" for me

:rolleyes:

John bonhamish

[double stroke roller]

someone please define "classic sound" for me

:rolleyes:

WuTang

[Seafroggys]

They both will give you that classic sound.

The 2002 hasn't changed much (if at all) from its original incarnation in 1971. The Giant Beats, while reintroduced after many years off the market, I'm not so sure about.

[the_runs]

i hope i dont get serious flammage but im one of those few drummers whose completly anal about matching cymbals....im sorry to all of you who have better music taste than I....but I enjoy the look of matching cymbals and i also figure that by using the same line my cymbals will work really good together sound wise. i know that many of you will tell me that your cymbal combos may be the best but i just cant seem to drop this preference....a lot of this comes from the fact that when igo into a guitar center i have a really hard time knowing just what i want in a cymbal. my dream set up is 15in hats with 18in alternates (i know their huge but i love the sound) 17 18 19in crashs and a 22 or 24 inch ride i cant seem to decide which i ll like better i keep thinking that if i go with the 24 inch it will be too big and ill feel like a bonham poser but then i m not sure about the 22 inch either....maybe i should try to find a 23in laugh out loud....

[lmldrummer]

wait, 18 in. hats?

why do you care about looks at all, it's drums. sure it's nice to have a good looking set, but sound is all that counts

[Zildjian_man]

Alphas

[Aaron]

I'd get:
15" 2002 SEs
18" Giant Beat
24" Giant Beat
20" Giant Beat
20" 2002 Novo

[Zildjian]

2oo2's are awesome

Giant beats are awesome

You cant go wrong with eather. But If it were me id for for some 2oo2's

[stevensonmat2]

i hope i dont get serious flammage but im one of those few drummers whose completly anal about matching cymbals....im sorry to all of you who have better music taste than I....but I enjoy the look of matching cymbals and i also figure that by using the same line my cymbals will work really good together sound wise. i know that many of you will tell me that your cymbal combos may be the best but i just cant seem to drop this preference....a lot of this comes from the fact that when igo into a guitar center i have a really hard time knowing just what i want in a cymbal. my dream set up is 15in hats with 18in alternates (i know their huge but i love the sound) 17 18 19in crashs and a 22 or 24 inch ride i cant seem to decide which i ll like better i keep thinking that if i go with the 24 inch it will be too big and ill feel like a bonham poser but then i m not sure about the 22 inch either....maybe i should try to find a 23in laugh out loud....

there's a term in english; run-on sentences.:smash:

Ive played the 2002's I didnt really care for them. The hats had no sizzle at all.

[Drummer300btx]

mix them and get a kickass sound.

mixing hats is the ****. i have the K/Z customs and they are awesome.

[Aaron]

2002 rides are boring and one-toned

[stevensonmat2]

My same feelings^

My old drum teacher has a set, they just seemed very unmusical.

[Aaron]

They're rock cymbals, you can't expect nice tone.

[ofDooM]

i hope i dont get serious flammage but im one of those few drummers whose completly anal about matching cymbals....im sorry to all of you who have better music taste than I....but I enjoy the look of matching cymbals and i also figure that by using the same line my cymbals will work really good together sound wise. i know that many of you will tell me that your cymbal combos may be the best but i just cant seem to drop this preference....a lot of this comes from the fact that when igo into a guitar center i have a really hard time knowing just what i want in a cymbal. my dream set up is 15in hats with 18in alternates (i know their huge but i love the sound) 17 18 19in crashs and a 22 or 24 inch ride i cant seem to decide which i ll like better i keep thinking that if i go with the 24 inch it will be too big and ill feel like a bonham poser but then i m not sure about the 22 inch either....maybe i should try to find a 23in laugh out loud....

When you learn to appreciate the sounds of drums and cymbals, then you will know that matching will never matter.

One year ago, I was such an ignorant fool. I spent over $100 on cymbals just for the looks. I love one, but I hate the other. Now I have a large amounts of cymbals I wouldnt mind sending to Johan.

[Drum Phil]

http://paiste.com/products/cymbals/images/signature/dark_metal_ride_lg.jpg

Fap?

[Chippy569]

^ until you hear it....





anyway... it all boils down to what sounds best. either line of cymbals is high quality... they just sound different. You can't ask a forum which to get because everyone will have their own opinions.

[Loyton]

someone please define "classic sound" for me

:rolleyes:

Ok.



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n.
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n.
1.
a. Vibrations transmitted through an elastic solid or a liquid or gas, with frequencies in the approximate range of 20 to 20,000 hertz, capable of being detected by human organs of hearing.
b. Transmitted vibrations of any frequency.
c. The sensation stimulated in the organs of hearing by such vibrations in the air or other medium.
d. Such sensations considered as a group.
2. A distinctive noise: a hollow sound.
3. The distance over which something can be heard: within sound of my voice.
4. Linguistics
a. An articulation made by the vocal apparatus: a vowel sound.
b. The distinctive character of such an articulation: The words bear and bare have the same sound.
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v. sound·ed, sound·ing, sounds
v.intr.
1.
a. To make or give forth a sound: The siren sounded.
b. To be given forth as a sound: The fanfare sounded.
2. To present a particular impression: That argument sounds reasonable.
v.tr.
1. To cause to give forth or produce a sound: sounded the gong.
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5. To examine (a body organ or part) by causing to emit sound; auscultate.


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[the_runs]

^ until you hear it....





anyway... it all boils down to what sounds best. either line of cymbals is high quality... they just sound different. You can't ask a forum which to get because everyone will have their own opinions.


thats what im looking for...I want imput on what peoples opinions are to help me make my decision.

When you learn to appreciate the sounds of drums and cymbals, then you will know that matching will never matter.

One year ago, I was such an ignorant fool. I spent over $100 on cymbals just for the looks. I love one, but I hate the other. Now I have a large amounts of cymbals I wouldnt mind sending to Johan.

See i appreciate the sound of a good sounding cymbal...unfortuntaely for me i have only played maybe 20-30 different cymbals on other peoples kits. Some I like and some i hate(i can tell the difference between absolute $hit and good stuff) but the problem comes when i have to buy them myself. So far i have played on 16 17 18inch crashes and a 20in ride from the 2002 line I love the sound but I guess im just unsure if theyll work for me. Sorry for being so wishy washy but I just wanted to see what people thought of each line to maybe push me over the edge...as of now im probaly gonna go with the 2002s but im still considering the giant beats. The problem with the giant beats is that i have yet to play one as they seem unpopular or too popular to stay in stock, as guitar center has not had some the few time I was there. unfortunate i guess. but overall the reason for this thread, honestly, is to see if people who have played on giant beats feel they are well worth the cost and if theyre sound is of better quality than the 2002's. Maybe someone could tell me an exact difference in the sound of each...? that would probaly help the most.

the_runs

[pitchfork]

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Fap?

Damn right! :smash: