post-hardcore bass

[bleep_bloop]

what kind of stuff do the bassist play is post-hardcore/emo/screamo? i really dig the basslines in these songs but there is a serious lack of tabs for this stuff. im talking specifically in the department of bands like saetia, off minor, hot cross, gospel, funeral diner, etc. any help would be greately appreciated.

[Az_Holl]

The best advice i can give you is to listen to those artists and just emulate what you hear. In the long run i think that would be more useful than just getting the music dor there songs.

I like the bass in Saetia though, you've reminded me to listen to it again.

[Left Shoe]

well the bassist from saetia rules, he riffs (some natures catch no plagues) then sometimes he follows the guitar, sometimes he does harmonics (venus and bacchus). etc etc etc. basically, play whatever you want, just in the heavier parts you might want to follow the guitar

[bottlerocket]

You follow the guitar and just slam your heart out on your bass if it's something like Orchid and Ampere.

If it's like Saetia and Off Minor, play as jazzy as you can while still attacking your bass for an aggressive sound. Off Minor has some REALLY good emo bass.

HOLY CRAP THREE POSTS THAT ARE ACTUALLY HELPFUL ABOUT EMO/SCREAMO AND HARDCORE BASS

OH MY GOD. MY WORK HERE IS DONE. I CAN DIE IN PEACE.

[bleep_bloop]

woah thanks for all the wonderful help guys, rep++ all around.

[bottlerocket]

A real good example of different types of "emo" bass:

Ampere - Wormwood, Radiation

This shows how if you just slam on your bass as hard as you can in a weird time sig., it sounds awesome, especially if the guitars do that, too.

Saetia - Postlapsaria

Emo bass with a grooooooove. I love this song.

Off Minor - This is a Hostage Situation

The bassist basically just goes absolutely nuts the entire song.

Off Minor - Instrumental

Similar to Postlapsaria; emo bass with a groove.

If you want those songs, or more good examples of emo bands with awesome bass, IM me on AIM: GavSavesTheDay.

[Az_Holl]

I've got a Powertab for Circle Takes the Square: Houdini Logic... if you've got Powertab.

[EADG]

If you want disgustingly ridiculous bass:

Between the Buried and Me



Although they're actually more metalcore.

[bottlerocket]

BTBAM is pretty insane metalcore, yeah. Mad props to their musicianship.

Alaska is a phenomenol album.

[bleep_bloop]

i also really like what the bassist in botch does.

[Left Shoe]

not a btbam fan, gav send me off minor tomorrow. going old school with the botch. thanks for the rep.

[naut]

emo/screamo@LOL.com

[Sammy_L_D]

Lots of harmonizing bass lines.

Some nice bass work in a lot of those bands.

[mastrrbasser]

saetia is the shiz.


I'll still stick to my guns and say that small brown bike is another fantastic emo band.


songs like:
fami(liar)
see you in hell
my own disaster
this ship will burn (cool bass intro)
the cannons and the tanks
expression eraser
curiosity killed the cat, and i am the killed
i will bury you in me (my screen name, heh)

hit me up on aim if you want any of their stuff. The bass grooves pretty hard sometimes.

[Sammy_L_D]

saetia is the shiz.


I'll still stick to my guns and say that small brown bike is another fantastic emo band.


songs like:
fami(liar)
see you in hell
my own disaster
this ship will burn (cool bass intro)
the cannons and the tanks
expression eraser
curiosity killed the cat, and i am the killed
i will bury you in me (my screen name, heh)

hit me up on aim if you want any of their stuff. The bass grooves pretty hard sometimes.

Awesome avatar.

NN2S ftw.

[mastrrbasser]

Awesome avatar.

NN2S ftw.


you're fired from punks...

... er... sorry... "punx"

[Sammy_L_D]

you're fired from punks...

... er... sorry... "punx"

"How cool would it be if Raffi all of a sudden started a hardcore punk band?"

"Raffi?"

---------

"Ring! Ring!! RING!!!

BANANARCHY!!!"

[mastrrbasser]

don't you know what happens when a real punk goes into hot topic?


*bursts into flames*

... not again.


/quotes

[Sammy_L_D]

don't you know what happens when a real punk goes into hot topic?


*bursts into flames*

... not again.


/quotes

Just one more.

"And standing there...outside the car door...

was the LEAD SINGER OF COHEED & CAMBRIA!"

~insert screams of children in agonizing terror~

"Jesus dude, you're suppose to scare them not traumatize them! Man, even I thought that was messed up."

[bleep_bloop]

why are you two arguing?

[bleep_bloop]

is there a way to bring the bass forward in the mix on these? because its rather hard to hear what the bassist is doing on some of the songs.

[Az_Holl]

is there a way to bring the bass forward in the mix on these? because its rather hard to hear what the bassist is doing on some of the songs.
If you cant hear what the bass is doing he's most likely doubling the guitar part.

But you can change the EQ on windows media player for more bass.

[bottlerocket]

^ Nah.

A LOT of these bands are piss poor and can't afford high quality recording, to be 100% honest. Most recording quality is pure crap.

[Pluperfect_Arson]

BTBAM is pretty insane metalcore, yeah. Mad props to their musicianship.

Alaska is a phenomenol album.

This post caused me to shed tears. :upset:



Also, there is an Amanda Woodward song, where the bass stands out a tonne. I can't remember the name off the top of my head, and I don't have my iPod on me at the moment.

[bottlerocket]

Why?

BTBAM did Alaska, didn't they?

OK fine. They're not metalcore.

[Pluperfect_Arson]

Why?

BTBAM did Alaska, didn't they?

OK fine. They're not metalcore.

I don't even care how people classify them; however, you should have said the Silent Circus is a phenomenal album, not Alaska. :(

[bottlerocket]

I've never heard that album so I can't call it phenomenal.

I don't listen to BTBAM much. I heard Alaska, though. I'm usually not a fan of that kind of music but HOLY CRAP they're awesome musicians.

[Pluperfect_Arson]

I've never heard that album so I can't call it phenomenal.

I don't listen to BTBAM much. I heard Alaska, though. I'm usually not a fan of that kind of music but HOLY CRAP they're awesome musicians.

Yeah, most of the die-hard fanatics recognise Alaska as an okay album, without it being BTBAM, but the self-titled and the Silent Circus both destroy.

Even BTBAM said that they were trying to create music and not be as technical as possible on Alaska. Whatever. Alaska is a good album, but it doesn't sound anything like their first two, which was saddening. :(

[naut]

someone suggest a BTBAM song that epitomizes said accolades. i'd like to hear them.

[Pluperfect_Arson]

someone suggest a BTBAM song that epitomizes said accolades. i'd like to hear them.

I can just send you all of their albums?

I would have to upload them, first.

It really depends, though. A tonne of their fans didn't start liking them until they released Alaska, but I still think their first two albums are the greatest, and I know a bunch of others who think that as well.

[bottlerocket]

I think we jocked them too hard and got Dylan's hopes up.

Oh, how I wait to see how this post is totally misconstrued.

[Pluperfect_Arson]

Dylan, just find "Mordecai" and see if you like that song or not. That was pretty much everyone and their mother's first listening into BTBAM a couple years ago.

[naut]

i'd misconstrue it accordingly if my balls hadn't been emptied half an hour ago. my mind won't be up to par for such perverse perceptions for another several hours.

[PaulSimonon]

Check out the bass lines in Kill Sadie and These Arms are Snakes. I think they're considered post-hardcore bands?

[BassVirtuoso]

i'd misconstrue it accordingly if my balls hadn't been emptied half an hour ago. my mind won't be up to par for such perverse perceptions for another several hours.

Refl it only takes me exactly 1 hour and 36 minutes to recharge.

[bottlerocket]

Check out the bass lines in Kill Sadie and These Arms are Snakes. I think they're considered post-hardcore bands?

Yeah but they both suck so it really doesn't matter.

A+ for effort, Andrew. :thumb:

[Pluperfect_Arson]

Yeah but they both suck so it really doesn't matter.

A+ for effort, Andrew. :thumb:

Finally, someone agrees with me about These Arms Are Snakes!

[PaulSimonon]

*shrugs*

I dig them. Good basslines too.

[naut]

Dylan, just find "Mordecai" and see if you like that song or not. That was pretty much everyone and their mother's first listening into BTBAM a couple years ago.

checked it out on the NubTub.

beginning's like how Necrophagist would sound if you gave them instruments in elementary school.

i liked 2:30-4:00 though.

[bottlerocket]

Everyone I know agrees with me about TAAS. They're awful.

You know what band everyone busts a nut over but I totally hate?

Heavy Heavy Low Low. They're from Mass and aren't THAT big but, just because they're basically a HORSE the band ripoff and are from Mass, all the scene kiddies here love them.

Argh.

[naut]

Refl it only takes me exactly 1 hour and 36 minutes to recharge.

it just differs contextually for me, also depends on the number of sows left.

[Pluperfect_Arson]

*shrugs*

I dig them. Good basslines too.

I only dislike them because of how much my cousin is in love with them, and he always talked about how great they were. When I listened to them, I was so incredibly let down. :(

I wasn't dissing your taste in music, though. To each their own. :p

[bottlerocket]

So let's talk about other good emo, screamo, and hardcore bassists.

Lally is a legend, obviously.

[mastrrbasser]

screamo is out. I'm all about the post-modern neo-thrash. it's Like screamo, but more a more pre pre punk- post metalcore vibe...

sorry, had to throw one genre joke in.

[BassVirtuoso]

What's sad is I can't name a single Emo, Screamo, Hardcore bassist.

[naut]

i'm so confused.:upset:

[bleep_bloop]

Kevin Roche

[PaulSimonon]

I'm pretty sure I'm awful at all of this genrecizing. I get all of them mixed up and backwards.

It's all music anyways.

[bottlerocket]

screamo is out. I'm all about the post-modern neo-thrash. it's Like screamo, but more a more pre pre punk- post metalcore vibe...

sorry, had to throw one genre joke in.

HYSTERICAL.

No, really. Good job.

What's sad is I can't name a single Emo, Screamo, Hardcore bassist.

Ian MacKaye used to play bass in The Teen Idles, so there you go.

It's because you don't listen to those genres of music.

[BassVirtuoso]

HYSTERICAL.



Ian MacKaye used to play bass in The Teen Idles, so there you go.

The Ian MacKaye!? I've had a few beers with him, talked about playing in band situations and such. We talked about his family, great bunch of kids he's got. What a guy.

[Pluperfect_Arson]

i'm so confused.:upset:

Hey, did you still want to listen to BTBAM?

I could send you "Mordecai" and a few other songs, if you would like.

[bleep_bloop]

Kevin Roche

and the bassist in gospel, i cant find his name.

[bottlerocket]

The bassist from I Hate Myself is pretty cool, too, actually, now that I think about it. I think his name is Steve.

[mastrrbasser]

i had to throw in the stupid joke. I always hear semantic arguments over genres and it always sounds like gibberish to me.

[naut]

Hey, did you still want to listen to BTBAM?

I could send you "Mordecai" and a few other songs, if you would like.

checked it out on the NubTub.

beginning's like how Necrophagist would sound if you gave them instruments in elementary school.

i liked 2:30-4:00 though.

:eek:

[bottlerocket]

The Ian MacKaye!? I've had a few beers with him, talked about playing in band situations and such. We talked about his family, great bunch of kids he's got. What a guy.

ROFL YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHO HE IS AND IT'S SO OBVIOUS FROM THAT POST.

THE CONTRADICTION IS MAKING ME LOL SO HARD.

Ian MacKaye = vocalist from Minor Threat

That's probably what he's most famous for.

Kevin Roche

and the bassist in gospel, i cant find his name.

Yeah. I miss Gospel. They were good; mad overrated but good.

[Pluperfect_Arson]

:eek:

Oh, I totally missed that post. :(

[mastrrbasser]

i was never big on minor threat, but fugazi has some good tunes.

[naut]

I always hear semantic arguments over genres and it always sounds like gibberish to me.

genre nazis are like wine connoisseurs. you basically see how much bullshit you can feed someone before they notice the bitter taste in their mouth.

[Pluperfect_Arson]

Everyone I know agrees with me about TAAS. They're awful.

You know what band everyone busts a nut over but I totally hate?

Heavy Heavy Low Low. They're from Mass and aren't THAT big but, just because they're basically a HORSE the band ripoff and are from Mass, all the scene kiddies here love them.

Argh.

HAHAHAHAHA

Heavy Heavy Low Low is one of the worst bands I have ever heard. Isn't HHLL from California, though? :confused:

Unless there are two of them...

[bottlerocket]

i was never big on minor threat, but fugazi has some good tunes.

I'm so rebellious, I listen to Minor Threat while smoking.

I do it all the time.

Fugazi > Embrace > Minor Threat

That's how it is for me, anyway. I've always liked emo way more than hardcore.

[bottlerocket]

genre nazis are like wine connoisseurs. you basically see how much bullshit you can feed someone before they notice the bitter taste in their mouth.

As I said earlier:

I'm a jerk about what emo and hardcore genres are because...well...would YOU want the music YOU love to be associated with what emo is today?

Didn't think so.

HAHAHAHAHA

Heavy Heavy Low Low is one of the worst bands I have ever heard. Isn't HHLL from California, though? :confused:

Unless there are two of them...

Someone told me they were from Attleboro, MA, and that the singer's little brother went to high school there...

Maybe they were lying?

[BassVirtuoso]

ROFL YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHO HE IS AND IT'S SO OBVIOUS FROM THAT POST.

THE CONTRADICTION IS MAKING ME LOL SO HARD.

Ian MacKaye = vocalist from Minor Threat

That's probably what he's most famous for.



Oh...refl I had to pick the anti-alcohol band to tell the drinking story with.

[mastrrbasser]

I'm so rebellious, I listen to Minor Threat while smoking.

I do it all the time.

Fugazi > Embrace > Minor Threat

That's how it is for me, anyway. I've always liked emo way more than hardcore.

you tell me, you like the taste...

[Pluperfect_Arson]

Someone told me they were from Attleboro, MA, and that the singer's little brother went to high school there...

Maybe they were lying?

Maybe, because I know they are from around the California/Arizona area, and their MySpace says they are from San Jose.

Maybe they relocated? o_O

[mastrrbasser]

i don't blame you about the genre thing to be honest. You're not bad about it like some people. I mean, if i have to hear that hawthorne heights is emo one more time i'll slit someones throat. There is a set genre for bands like them, it's called "crap." People assume that if there are whiney vocals, it's synonamous with emo. Not true in a lot of cases.


edit: to gav

[naut]

I'm a jerk about what emo and hardcore genres are because...well...would YOU want the music YOU love to be associated with what emo is today?

nah man i didn't mean that directed at you; but i definitely know what you mean. i don't even listen to emo or hardcore but i'll still call dumbasses out when i CONSTANTLY hear: "GOD I HATE THIS EMO ****." (My Chemical Romance playing on radio). LOMYALE.

[PaulSimonon]

Wellll if you wanted honesty that's all you had to sayay!

[naut]

shut the **** up and go listen to another Paul Simon record.

[Efrim]

Quite frankly, I don't think hardcore should have become its own genre, much less emo.

Oh, and Gav:
Fugazi>Rites of Spring>Embrace
Guy>Ian

[bottlerocket]

Haha, many people would shoot you for saying that about Ian.

Maybe, because I know they are from around the California/Arizona area, and their MySpace says they are from San Jose.

Maybe they relocated? o_O

I bet that person was just lying.

She's weird like that.

i don't blame you about the genre thing to be honest. You're not bad about it like some people. I mean, if i have to hear that hawthorne heights is emo one more time i'll slit someones throat. There is a set genre for bands like them, it's called "crap." People assume that if there are whiney vocals, it's synonamous with emo. Not true in a lot of cases.


edit: to gav

Word, man. I know what you mean. I'd consider Hawthorne Heights pop-punk, though; just really, really, stale, whiny pop-punk.

nah man i didn't mean that directed at you; but i definitely know what you mean. i don't even listen to emo or hardcore but i'll still call dumbasses out when i CONSTANTLY hear: "GOD I HATE THIS EMO ****." (My Chemical Romance playing on radio). LOMYALE.

Yeah, man. It's a bummer.

[Efrim]

Haha, many people would shoot you for saying that.

I've been threatened....:thumb:

But the truth must be known!

[Pluperfect_Arson]

I bet that person was just lying.

She's weird like that.

Haha, beat her down!

Also, trying to explain to people that what they are listening to is more pop-punk, not emo, is one of the hardest things I have, ever, had to do.

[Efrim]

Haha, beat her down!

Also, trying to explain to people that what they are listening to is more pop-punk, not emo, is one of the hardest things I have, ever, had to do.

I have yet to meet someone IRL around me that uses emo in connection with music. Try explaining emo to someone who uses it to label those who watch anime.
Seriously, what the ****?

[Pluperfect_Arson]

I have yet to meet someone IRL around me that uses emo in connection with music. Try explaining emo to someone who uses it to label those who watch anime.
Seriously, what the ****?

:lol:

I would have to shoot myself, instead.

[bleep_bloop]

As I said earlier:

I'm a jerk about what emo and hardcore genres are because...well...would YOU want the music YOU love to be associated with what emo is today?


i just call what i listen to post-hardcore. that way when i tell people about music i dig, i can get them to be more open, because if i were to say i dig emo, a lot of people would get their minds locked up in the pseudostereotipical image of emo, while if i call it post-hardcore, they usually remain open and willing to take in the music.

[Criss Frantic]

shut the **** up and go listen to another Paul Simon record.

Paul Simon and Paul Simonon are two VERY different people.

[lemoley]

from what i have heard the bassists from those sort of bands have a really growly tone, play with a pic and generaly root note - hope that helps

[fortyseven]

Paul Simon and Paul Simonon are two VERY different people.

but both have some pretty funky basslines :)



on topic, http://www.myspace.com/fordirelifesake listen to dependent on attention if it's still up.

the bassist does some pretty cool stuff on that and a lot of the other tracks on the dance.pretend... album. .

[naut]

Paul Simon and Paul Simonon are two VERY different people.

...

it was a joke.

[blacklungfever]

BTBAM is pretty insane metalcore, yeah. Mad props to their musicianship.

Alaska is a phenomenol album.

Great album, especially the random quiet song haha.

[bleep_bloop]

if anyone knows where to find tabs for any of these songs could you tell me because i am having trouble finding tabs for these songs.

[Left Shoe]

if youve got A retrospective - Saetia, just figure out Some Natures Catch no Plague. its a pretty easy one to figure out

[bleep_bloop]

ok ill try that one. ive figured out about the first four notes of postlapsatia but after that i dont know.

[Criss Frantic]

...

it was a joke.

Sorry :upset:

[fatbandit]

Hmm.

I like Minor Threat lots, haha.

And as for TAAS... I wasn't impressed on record, but went to see them live with Minus The Bear, and they were really good. I was impressed enough to buy a shirt from their merch stand anyway :lol:

:smash:

[low-G]

Rob Zombie is my fave hardcore band LOLZ


seriosuly though
everyone who's posted in here seems to agree with each other for the most part, and you all seem pretty respectable on the subject
so i'm gonna ask you, but i'm not intereseted in starting a war so if you think its gonna then just ignore me

can someone give me a reasonable description of the whole hardcore/post-hardcore/emo/screamo genre's
i'm no genre nazi, i'd just like to know about it, how all those are different from each other, how theyre differnt from what the mainstream leads me to believe they are, and all that jazz
ya know?
gimme some exempilary bands too, if you will
thank you kind sirs

[naut]

Rob Zombie is my fave hardcore band LOLZ

well, i will say, Zombie owns any band that's been mentioned in here.

not Educated Horses though...god that **** was gay.

[Efrim]

Rob Zombie is my fave hardcore band LOLZ


seriosuly though
everyone who's posted in here seems to agree with each other for the most part, and you all seem pretty respectable on the subject
so i'm gonna ask you, but i'm not intereseted in starting a war so if you think its gonna then just ignore me

can someone give me a reasonable description of the whole hardcore/post-hardcore/emo/screamo genre's
i'm no genre nazi, i'd just like to know about it, how all those are different from each other, how theyre differnt from what the mainstream leads me to believe they are, and all that jazz
ya know?
gimme some exempilary bands too, if you will
thank you kind sirs

I'd recommend using Wikipedia. I don't trust myself to be able to put descriptions into words.

I can, however, provide you with examples.
Definitive hardcore band: Minor Threat.
Definitive post-hardcore bands: Fugazi, Drive Like Jehu
Definitive emo band: Rites of Spring

Odds are, someone will now come in and disagree with me.

[bleep_bloop]

Hardcore: http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11369917
Hardcore: Minor Threat
Post Hardcore: http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11370001
Post-Hardcore: Fugazi, Mission of burma
Emo: http://fourfa.com/ i dont know how good a description this is really but it seems ok to me
http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11370022
Emo: Indian Summer, Funeral Diner, I hate myself
Screamo: City of Caterpillar, circle takes the square, off minor

[The_Red_Death]

A real good example of different types of "emo" bass:

Ampere - Wormwood, Radiation

This shows how if you just slam on your bass as hard as you can in a weird time sig., it sounds awesome, especially if the guitars do that, too.

Saetia - Postlapsaria

Emo bass with a grooooooove. I love this song.

Off Minor - This is a Hostage Situation

The bassist basically just goes absolutely nuts the entire song.

Off Minor - Instrumental

Similar to Postlapsaria; emo bass with a groove.

If you want those songs, or more good examples of emo bands with awesome bass, IM me on AIM: GavSavesTheDay.


I was just going to mention Postlapsaria. Great song. :thumb:

[bleep_bloop]

hey Gav, the hardcore/emo forum needs you!

[low-G]

all that was very helpful
thank you