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BenJammin
01-03-2007, 02:06 PM
And here's why:

http://jerzydrozdbasses.com/images/newproject/legendXII_final/7.jpg

http://jerzydrozdbasses.com/images/newproject/legendXII_final/9.jpg

http://jerzydrozdbasses.com/images/newproject/legendXII_final/15.jpg

http://jerzydrozdbasses.com/images/newproject/legendXII_final/31.jpg

More pictures here: http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3680222&postcount=202

34"
Tuning: very low B (yes, 1 octave below standard) E A D G C F Bb Eb Ab Db Gb
string spacing: 17 mm
body: Spanish cedar, we have to discuss again for the top, abalone
neck: 5 pieces flame maple/purple heart/flame maple/purple heart/flame maple
fingerboard: ebony, 41 positions (*yes*, 41!!!) [8 octaves]
OBP3
RMC piezos

For those of you who don't know who Yves is:
http://www.yvescarbonne.com/
http://www.myspace.com/yvescarbonne

He's amazing. This bass is amazing.

Discuss (over-zealous traditionalists need not venture past this point).

Jody LeCompte
01-03-2007, 02:07 PM
You just want that because it looks flashy, you probably can't even play it and you'd resort to making pointless noise.

Why not just play guitar? Or piano? Bass isn't meant to go that high anyway.

<3

Akira
01-03-2007, 02:08 PM
Attention whore guitarist-wannabes FTL.

edgebass5
01-03-2007, 02:08 PM
Those guys at Jerzy Drozd CLEARLY don't know what they're doing. They built the damn thing backwards!!!! :p

Jody LeCompte
01-03-2007, 02:08 PM
Those guys at Jerzy Drozd CLEARLY don't know what they're doing. They built the damn thing backwards!!!! :p

I know huh, and you can't flip the strings around because that hidious upper horn.

BenJammin
01-03-2007, 02:09 PM
Those guys at Jerzy Drozd CLEARLY don't know what they're doing. They built the damn thing backwards!!!! :p

Yves is French. They built it right. ;)

<_<

>_>

Afrokid
01-03-2007, 02:09 PM
its so ugly....

Akira
01-03-2007, 02:10 PM
Where is the MIDI pickup on it?

Jody LeCompte
01-03-2007, 02:11 PM
How do you know hes french?

Maybe his parents were drunk and couldnt spell.

BenJammin
01-03-2007, 02:13 PM
Where is the MIDI pickup on it?

In the bridge saddles. RMC piezos.

Kage
01-03-2007, 02:13 PM
That's the most disgusting thing I've ever seen.

Jimbobntnr
01-03-2007, 02:14 PM
(over-zealous traditionalists need not venture past this point).
kthx

Spaceman Spiff
01-03-2007, 02:15 PM
It could sink the Titanic.

Kage
01-03-2007, 02:15 PM
kthx

I'm far from that kthx

BenJammin
01-03-2007, 02:16 PM
kthx

ohnoudidn't.

Akira
01-03-2007, 02:16 PM
In the bridge saddles. RMC piezos.

MIDI piezos, now he's just gone too far.

Jimbobntnr
01-03-2007, 02:16 PM
I'm far from that kthx

I am that. It's not always about you, ok!?!

Kage
01-03-2007, 02:16 PM
Oh I thought you were talking to me. Sorry.

BenJammin
01-03-2007, 02:17 PM
MIDI piezos, now he's just gone too far.

What? They're not that uncommon, for MIDI. That's what I'm going to go for.

Akira
01-03-2007, 02:18 PM
What? They're not that uncommon, for MIDI. That's what I'm going to go for.

It was a joke. Don't get your panties in a knot.

BenJammin
01-03-2007, 02:19 PM
It was a joke. Don't get your panties in a knot.

I'm sorry! They're just so tight, it's killing me.

BassVirtuoso
01-03-2007, 02:20 PM
Jerzy Drozd's are my dream basses.

rh15951
01-03-2007, 02:31 PM
"Very low B, an octave below standard"? On a 34" scale bass? :lol: Takes the piss.

herrly
01-03-2007, 02:34 PM
Poor Gary Goodman couldn't be the first to make a fretless 12 string. He'll just have to top him with a fretless 13 string...

Spaceman Spiff
01-03-2007, 02:35 PM
It could sink Doug.

OOH! DISS!

Jody LeCompte
01-03-2007, 02:36 PM
Ben, go the Britney route.

d-basser
01-03-2007, 02:38 PM
I like it *ducks as insults and bricks fly* I really like Yves's playing

BenJammin
01-03-2007, 02:39 PM
Poor Gary Goodman couldn't be the first to make a fretless 12 string. He'll just have to top him with a fretless 13 string...

Actually, Garry does have a 13 string in the works. :lol:

o b s
01-03-2007, 02:43 PM
stupid bass, at least he can play it

BenJammin
01-03-2007, 02:44 PM
stupid bass, at least he can play it

The bass does have a painfully low IQ, doesn't it?

Spaceman Spiff
01-03-2007, 02:48 PM
The bass does have a painfully low IQ, doesn't it?

It's as dumb as wood...

Akira
01-03-2007, 02:50 PM
I like it *ducks as insults and bricks fly* I really like Yves's playing

Haha, I don't think anyone on here will insult you for liking it.

Billie'sBouncer
01-03-2007, 02:54 PM
Very cool looking, i wouldnt really want it, i wouldnt even know what to do with it, but it sure is cool. Look at that bolt on, like 13 bolts.

sixner
01-03-2007, 02:58 PM
How do you know hes french?

Maybe his parents were drunk and couldnt spell.

Yves is a french name (pronounced Eve)... it was my french name when i took french for 3 years in high school.

i read on his myspace (or something like that) that he's french

so stfu jody
:)


its kinda cool, i'd like to attempt playing it
if i was a lefty
-Sixner

naut
01-03-2007, 03:00 PM
nooPtacular.

Jody LeCompte
01-03-2007, 03:01 PM
Yves is a french name (pronounced Eve)... it was my french name when i took french for 3 years in high school.

i read on his myspace (or something like that) that he's french

so stfu jody
:)


its kinda cool, i'd like to attempt playing it
if i was a lefty
-Sixner

:upset:

-cut cut cut-

-cue fall out boy-

Soulfly666
01-03-2007, 03:01 PM
Those guys at Jerzy Drozd CLEARLY don't know what they're doing. They built the damn thing backwards!!!! :p

Fixed!

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e84/m0nst3r5/9.jpg

sixner
01-03-2007, 03:06 PM
:upset:

-cut cut cut-

-cue fall out boy-

need a band-aid?





hah, nice pic edit. Looks good as a righty
-six

herrly
01-03-2007, 03:30 PM
Actually, Garry does have a 13 string in the works. :lol:

:lol:hahaha:lol:

Jody LeCompte
01-03-2007, 03:34 PM
need a band-aid?

-six

...

Is it a cool bandaid or an ugly bandaid?

edgebass5
01-03-2007, 03:40 PM
"Very low B, an octave below standard"? On a 34" scale bass? :lol: Takes the piss.

What's the problem? I admit finding strings for that thing would be an absolute pain in the spatula, but given the right string it could be very functional... not to your ears, but definitely to your sense of feel.

The REAL issue would be finding amplification that could handle it.

Thonk
01-03-2007, 03:47 PM
Yves is amazing.

Same for the bass.

Pluperfect_Arson
01-03-2007, 03:48 PM
need a band-aid?
-six

Band-Aid is a brand name, so I am assuming that you were asking him if he needed an adhesive bandage. :p

Also, Ben, Yves stole that bass idea from me.

Pinhead13
01-03-2007, 03:56 PM
*Girly Voice*

Ewwwwwwww!

trumpeter
01-03-2007, 04:01 PM
That pickup is the most absurd shaped thing ever

Specialsauce
01-03-2007, 04:12 PM
And here's why:

http://jerzydrozdbasses.com/images/newproject/legendXII_final/7.jpg

http://jerzydrozdbasses.com/images/newproject/legendXII_final/9.jpg

http://jerzydrozdbasses.com/images/newproject/legendXII_final/15.jpg

http://jerzydrozdbasses.com/images/newproject/legendXII_final/31.jpg

More pictures here: http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3680222&postcount=202



For those of you who don't know who Yves is:
http://www.yvescarbonne.com/
http://www.myspace.com/yvescarbonne

He's amazing. This bass is amazing.

Discuss (over-zealous traditionalists need not venture past this point).

i think its cool, but where the hell do you buy strings for it?

trumpeter
01-03-2007, 04:15 PM
You have them custom made.

By....Conklin.

Pluperfect_Arson
01-03-2007, 04:16 PM
You have them custom made.

By....Conklin.

Lies!

He takes raw material and forms them, with his teeth and hands.

trumpeter
01-03-2007, 04:16 PM
Lies!

He takes raw material and forms them, with his teeth and hands.

...or that.

rage f*****g rule
01-03-2007, 04:24 PM
if anything it comes with a built in bottle opener on the headstock... handy.

lemoley
01-03-2007, 04:33 PM
well...... at least its left handed

SlincoJ
01-03-2007, 05:06 PM
Lefty=win.Jesus that thing is big though.

bleep_bloop
01-03-2007, 05:10 PM
that **** is rediculous

rage f*****g rule
01-03-2007, 05:15 PM
i quite like it to be honest... don't think i could make much of all those extra strings though... i'll stick to my humble 7... ha

bleep_bloop
01-03-2007, 05:19 PM
i think...if your going to get a bass with more than 4 string, then why not just get a guitar.

rage f*****g rule
01-03-2007, 05:20 PM
i think...if your going to get a bass with more than 4 string, then why not just get a guitar.


i have a guitar...
my 7 is tuned low f#- c so doesn't have what you would consider a guitar tuning at all. it's all bass and all good.

FU.CKY.OU
01-03-2007, 05:25 PM
"Why not just get a guitar?"

For some reason, that statement makes me so mad I can't even explain it.

As far as the bass, even though I think it's really awkward looking, I appreciate how much time the guys who built it, put into building it. If I had a chance to play it, I wouldn't, it would just be a major embarassment..besides..I MIGHT AS WELL JUST PLAY GUITAR...*yank yank*.

Akira
01-03-2007, 06:21 PM
i think...if your going to get a bass with more than 4 string, then why not just get a guitar.

Either you're trolling, or you're stupid. Either way, that statement it really dumb.

NavyBass
01-03-2007, 06:24 PM
That thing would NEVER be greater than any bass I own, even if the only bass I owned was a $75.00 Rogue.

Reasons why...That bass is;

1. Pointless
2. Rediculous
3. Damn Ugly
4. Only has one real use (self-indulgent wanking)
5. (along with #4) Would never be used in a normal band setting
6. Way too expensive for something that's not practical

Akira
01-03-2007, 06:28 PM
That thing would NEVER be greater than any bass I own, even if the only bass I owned was a $75.00 Rogue.

Reasons why...That bass is;

1. Pointless
2. Rediculous
3. Damn Ugly
4. Only has one real use (self-indulgent wanking)
5. (along with #4) Would never be used in a normal band setting
6. Way too expensive for something that's not practical

Okay from some guitarist I can understand it, but man JP. I had more respect for you than that. The only thing there I agree with you on is that it is ugly, and not very useful in a band setting. Have you heard Yves play though?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT_kQbAFFfs
I hardly call that self-indulgent wanking. I call that very pretty music.

NavyBass
01-03-2007, 06:31 PM
Okay from some guitarist I can understand it, but man JP. I had more respect for you than that. The only thing there I agree with you on is that it is ugly, and not very useful in a band setting. Have you heard Yves play though?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT_kQbAFFfs
I hardly call that self-indulgent wanking. I call that very pretty music.

The self indulgent wanking comment was a bit over the top.:)

Akira
01-03-2007, 06:33 PM
The self indulgent wanking comment was a bit over the top.:)

Fair enough.

It's a personal thing. One person might feel that everything he or she wants to accomplish on bass can be done on a 4 string, another might feel that more strings are helpful to make music. I personally feel that the majority of the guys who own these super-ERBs make good music, and to me that is justification enough to play the basses that they play.

moghes69
01-03-2007, 06:43 PM
i like it... i believe he has another one with a few less strings. the body looks a lot nicer on that one, but i still think its nice.

SlincoJ
01-03-2007, 06:45 PM
The self indulgent wanking comment was a bit over the top.:)

Pretty much,Yves playing is quite nice and not exactly wanking from what I've heard.And I'm sure it could easily find use in a band setting,you just have to know how to use it.

Akira
01-03-2007, 06:50 PM
i like it... i believe he has another one with a few less strings. the body looks a lot nicer on that one, but i still think its nice.

Yeah, I think he has one that is pretty much exactly the same but 10 strings, and maybe another with 8.

Manticore Guy
01-03-2007, 06:56 PM
I think it's fairly sweet but the tuning seems kind of odd to me.

Sammy_L_D
01-03-2007, 06:57 PM
Well.



...that's a really big fretless.

Left Shoe
01-03-2007, 07:03 PM
id hit it

irishslappop
01-03-2007, 07:23 PM
i can even concieve how tiny this douche's penis is.

BenJammin
01-03-2007, 07:25 PM
id hit it

Ahh... yeah. :p

And JP, all of those reasons are entirely reliant on your opinion. Yves plays in a very succesful trio with Manring and Dominique Di Piazza. Pointless, ridiculous, and ugly... well, I can disprove all of those because I think the utter contrary.

I think you missed the part where I said:

"(over-zealous traditionalists need not venture past this point)."

:)

Akira
01-03-2007, 07:27 PM
Ahh... yeah. :p

And JP, all of those reasons are entirely reliant on your opinion. Yves plays in a very succesful trio with Manring and Dominique Di Piazza. Pointless, ridiculous, and ugly... well, I can disprove all of those because I think the utter contrary.

I think you missed the part where I said:

"(over-zealous traditionalists need not venture past this point)."

:)

I can actually agree that the bass is a little ugly, only because the body looks so tiny compared to the neck.

But when you sound like he does, looks don't matter at all.

Soulfly666
01-03-2007, 07:29 PM
Although I'm all for ERB and everything, one thing I never understood was how do you play on the lower strings on, say, an 11-string bass? It seems like one would have to bend their wrist in a very uncomfortable position in order to do so.

irishslappop
01-03-2007, 07:31 PM
i assume you have to tap it.

Akira
01-03-2007, 07:34 PM
i assume you have to tap it.

As far as I know Yves doesn't tap, I may be wrong though.

Akira
01-03-2007, 07:36 PM
Yves playing the low strings, and playing in a band.
http://a108.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/16/l_756a52c191f0383bbdf81fcb1bec2fcb.jpg

BenJammin
01-03-2007, 07:40 PM
Yves playing the low strings, and playing in a band.
http://a108.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/16/l_756a52c191f0383bbdf81fcb1bec2fcb.jpg

That's only an 8 stringer, though. ;)

Akira
01-03-2007, 07:42 PM
That's only an 8 stringer, though. ;)

Did anyone ask you, jerk?

:p :upset:

bleep_bloop
01-03-2007, 07:43 PM
That thing would NEVER be greater than any bass I own, even if the only bass I owned was a $75.00 Rogue.

Reasons why...That bass is;

1. Pointless
2. Rediculous
3. Damn Ugly
4. Only has one real use (self-indulgent wanking)
5. (along with #4) Would never be used in a normal band setting
6. Way too expensive for something that's not practical

1 2 ****ing 3 this is exactly the point i was trying to get across

Akira
01-03-2007, 07:45 PM
1 2 ****ing 3 this is exactly the point i was trying to get across

And we addressed the points. Have you listened to Yves play?
http://www.myspace.com/yvescarbonne

moghes69
01-03-2007, 07:46 PM
1 2 ****ing 3 this is exactly the point i was trying to get across

what does that have to do with getting a guitar instead?

Left Shoe
01-03-2007, 07:46 PM
nah i doubt most of these people have, they just see the bass and judge. yves is a damn fine player

BenJammin
01-03-2007, 07:48 PM
what does that have to do with getting a guitar instead?

Find me a guitar that goes down to the low B below the standard low B on a bass and get back to me, kay?

bleep_bloop
01-03-2007, 08:08 PM
what does that have to do with getting a guitar instead?

ignore my post about getting a guitar instead this other dude voiced my argument better.

EADG
01-03-2007, 08:10 PM
i can even concieve how tiny this douche's penis is.


I can't even conceive how stupid and pointless this comment is.


If you're joking ignore me.




JP, you are being ridiculous. I too expect better from you.




That bass is ridiculously sexy and has a disgusting amount of range. I'd love to play it someday, especially being a lefty.

PERFECTXDARK
01-03-2007, 08:13 PM
nah i doubt most of these people have, they just see the bass and judge. yves is a damn fine player

1,2,3 hes amoung one of my idols.

Criss Frantic
01-03-2007, 08:14 PM
^Finally someone in this thread who knows how to spell "ridiculous"!

EDIT: EADG

For me, it's a good piece of eye candy, but I'd never even think about trying to play it. If he can make beautiful music with it, who cares how many strings it has?

BenJammin
01-03-2007, 08:17 PM
^Finally someone in this thread who knows how to spell "ridiculous"!

EDIT: EADG

For me, it's a good piece of eye candy, but I'd never even think about trying to play it. If he can make beautiful music with it, who cares how many strings it has?

Hey, I spelled it right. :angry:

Akira
01-03-2007, 08:19 PM
Hey, I spelled it right. :angry:

I can spell it, only because I have the best invention in the history of the internet.
Firefox spellcheck. It is so nice.

bleep_bloop
01-03-2007, 08:20 PM
i can even concieve how tiny this douche's penis is.

rofl rep +

BenJammin
01-03-2007, 08:22 PM
rofl rep +

rofl

ur so funni

AlmightyPancake
01-03-2007, 08:29 PM
Yes, but...

Yves Carbonne's pen0r < my pen0r.


Just kidding. This guy is fantastic, great great music. I'm gonna try to get some of this stuff.

irishslappop
01-03-2007, 08:51 PM
it was a joke fellas :rolleyes:

The JoZ
01-03-2007, 08:58 PM
What the *hell* kind of gauges does one use for a bass like that?

bleep_bloop
01-03-2007, 09:25 PM
rofl

ur so funni

u2.

SlincoJ
01-03-2007, 09:32 PM
What the *hell* kind of gauges does one use for a bass like that?

Really heavy to really light I'd say.

BassVirtuoso
01-03-2007, 09:55 PM
i think...if your going to get a bass with more than 4 string, then why not just get a guitar.

Get out.

That thing would NEVER be greater than any bass I own, even if the only bass I owned was a $75.00 Rogue.

Reasons why...That bass is;

1. Pointless
2. Rediculous
3. Damn Ugly
4. Only has one real use (self-indulgent wanking)
5. (along with #4) Would never be used in a normal band setting
6. Way too expensive for something that's not practical

Don't criticize an artist's brush without looking at his art.

herrly
01-03-2007, 11:23 PM
Don't criticize an artist's brush without looking at his art.


Did you just make that up? That's awesome. (I'm not being sarcastic, I mean that.)


I'm shocked at JP's post. I figure he would be better than that.


I like the body design, it looks sweet as hell.

Yves makes such beautiful music, can't wait to hear what he does on the 12 string.

Pluperfect_Arson
01-04-2007, 12:05 AM
^Finally someone in this thread who knows how to spell "ridiculous"!

Hey, it is a miracle when people spell that word correctly.

naut
01-04-2007, 12:13 AM
6. Way too expensive for something that's not practical

"practical?"

L

music is the topic at hand, correct?

Jaded
01-04-2007, 02:11 AM
Eh, my 'ray>that

funkyhoney
01-04-2007, 02:33 AM
What the *hell* kind of gauges does one use for a bass like that?

the cables they use to hold bridges together > the wires you use to strangle people

i think it's a bit much, but if he can use it, all the best.

as for the whole "get a guitar" comments that always seem to appear, i ask, why would i want to get a guitar when i play an instrument specifically designed to play in the low register?
either way, playing lower notes on a guitar =/= to the sound of higher notes on a bass.

bleep_bloop
01-04-2007, 02:39 AM
whatever im just fine with my four strings.

Sablate McNuff
01-04-2007, 02:40 AM
Yves playing the low strings, and playing in a band.
http://a108.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/16/l_756a52c191f0383bbdf81fcb1bec2fcb.jpg

He looks like his neck is breaking.

EADG
01-04-2007, 03:52 AM
What the *hell* kind of gauges does one use for a bass like that?



Well C# is .200 so I guess around there, maybe a little higher for the B. Maybe .210? .185-.190 for the low low E?


I am just wondering why he made it a 34" scale.

Akira
01-04-2007, 07:19 AM
"practical?"

L

music is the topic at hand, correct?

Also, when I think about it JP, aren't you an Alembic fan?

Peterwgw
01-04-2007, 08:05 AM
:eek: that bass is crazy

NavyBass
01-04-2007, 09:20 AM
Also, when I think about it JP, aren't you an Alembic fan?

Not really. The main reason I'm not a fan of Alembic is because there is no way that their basses should be as expensive as they are.

I will say that they do make nice stuff, but the price is still way too high.


I can understand people wanting to explore new realms, but at what point does it get out of hand?

It just seems to me that these guys with the ridiculous amount of strings are just saying "Hmm, player A has a bass with 9 strings, so I'm going to get one with 10," then the other guy says, "I'm going to get one with 11". It's like they're trying to out-do each other.

They may make nice music with them, but so did John Entwistle, Billy Sheehan, Jaco Pastorius, and Stanley Clarke, to name just a few, and they did it with 4 strings. They also brought the bass to the forefront.

But, to each his own. Some people may like the bass, I on the other hand, don't. You don't need to slam me just because I find the bass pointless. My initial post wasn't meant to slam anyone, I was just voicing my opinion on the bass, much like other people were voicing their opinions on my work.

E_man
01-04-2007, 10:10 AM
Well lets just say someone is making up for something...
























His lack of hair ;)

rh15951
01-04-2007, 10:20 AM
nah i doubt most of these people have, they just see the bass and judge. yves is a damn fine player

The majority of people haven't ripped on his playing, they have commented on the bass. For good reason too, that thing is hideous.

blacklungfever
01-04-2007, 11:15 AM
What a wuss. He has fret markers on the sides of the neck.

Seriously though, I would never want to play something like that, but I respect him for being able to ha. That would be REALLY hard to play I imagine, and he does make really nice music with it.

Regarding any 'get a guitar' comments:

High notes on a fretless bass sound MUCH nicer than low notes on a fretted guitar.

Polyamarous
01-04-2007, 11:26 AM
Argh!

EADG
01-04-2007, 02:13 PM
It just seems to me that these guys with the ridiculous amount of strings are just saying "Hmm, player A has a bass with 9 strings, so I'm going to get one with 10," then the other guy says, "I'm going to get one with 11". It's like they're trying to out-do each other.

They may make nice music with them, but so did John Entwistle, Billy Sheehan, Jaco Pastorius, and Stanley Clarke, to name just a few, and they did it with 4 strings. They also brought the bass to the forefront.




Progess is obviously going to be gradual.. it usually is in everything. It's not like someone is going to see a 4 string bass in the 60's and say "I wonder if you could get one with 3x as many strings" in a day when even 5 was unheard of. Remember in the 80's when people thought 7 string guitars and 6 string basses were a gimmick? Look at them now.

Those players may have made nice music with their 4 strings, but a lot of that music was made a long time ago. 2 of those people you listed are dead.
And it would be pretty boring if every bass player made music like those 4 people, right?

Now that the bass is in the forefront, doesn't it make sense for people like Yves, Jean, Stu, Garry, Jaquo to take advantage of that to make their bass centric or solo music?

the101er
01-04-2007, 02:26 PM
It's like Baudin commented on in the ask a pro thread.

When asked 'Why have a bass with that many strings', his comback was something along the lines of:

Why colour a picture with these:

http://www.bakingshop.com/bc/img/CRAY-15.jpg

when I can use these?

http://www.mandali.com/catalog/art/crayola.jpg

iamreprogramed
01-04-2007, 02:28 PM
i would have no idea what to do with that thing.

bleep_bloop
01-04-2007, 02:33 PM
it's a small penis bass

incubass
01-04-2007, 02:36 PM
It's like Baudin commented on in the ask a pro thread.

When asked 'Why have a bass with that many strings', his comback was something along the lines of:

Why colour a picture with these:

http://www.bakingshop.com/bc/img/CRAY-15.jpg

when I can use these?

http://www.mandali.com/catalog/art/crayola.jpg


i agree why would u paint with candles...but seriously that answer sums it all up. some people can still make good music with only 4 srings, and some make good music with 5+ strings

Sergio
01-04-2007, 02:51 PM
it's a small penis bass

It's another hilarious and original joke!

And this post, it's another bitterly sarcastic remark!

Anywho, his music = Amazing. Strange looking bass, though with that many strings, that can't really be helped.

Jaded
01-04-2007, 02:53 PM
It's like Baudin commented on in the ask a pro thread.

When asked 'Why have a bass with that many strings', his comback was something along the lines of:

Why colour a picture with these:

http://www.bakingshop.com/bc/img/CRAY-15.jpg

when I can use these?

http://www.mandali.com/catalog/art/crayola.jpg

Well it comes out looking like sh*t if you use them all together, and to be honest, Jean Baudin tries to do too much on one instrument, and it sounds like ***. I've always thought that tapping is a bad sounding technique.

bleep_bloop
01-04-2007, 02:54 PM
It's another hilarious and original joke!

And this post, it's another bitterly sarcastic remark!

Anywho, his music = Amazing. Strange looking bass, though with that many strings, that can't really be helped.

omg ur so funny and witty i wish i could be just liek u

The JoZ
01-04-2007, 03:01 PM
Well C# is .200 so I guess around there, maybe a little higher for the B. Maybe .210? .185-.190 for the low low E?


I am just wondering why he made it a 34" scale.


Well last I heard, I'd seen .165 for F# and .185 for the C#...never heard of .200 though I wouldn't be surprised.

.200, .185, .....

Just imagine how much he must pay for strings alone :lol:

Akira
01-04-2007, 03:04 PM
Well it comes out looking like sh*t if you use them all together, and to be honest, Jean Baudin tries to do too much on one instrument, and it sounds like ***. I've always thought that tapping is a bad sounding technique.

Personally I love tapping, whatever.

bleep_bloop
01-04-2007, 03:05 PM
i liked jean baudins tapping in that video that was posted on here.

Akira
01-04-2007, 03:12 PM
i liked jean baudins tapping in that video that was posted on here.

...

:confused:

bleep_bloop
01-04-2007, 03:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT_kQbAFFfs
it looked like tapping but whatever im probably wrong

Akira
01-04-2007, 03:22 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT_kQbAFFfs
it looked like tapping but whatever im probably wrong

Yeah, it's tapping. The point is, I don't understand how you can hate ERBs but like his music.

ChimPz
01-04-2007, 03:22 PM
I'm thinking it looks like the instigator of many a backproblem:rolleyes:

bleep_bloop
01-04-2007, 03:24 PM
Yeah, it's tapping. The point is, I don't understand how you can hate ERBs but like his music.

im a hypocrite what can i say

Peterwgw
01-04-2007, 03:26 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT_kQbAFFfs
it looked like tapping but whatever im probably wrong

in that, someone had replied with this
Ah yes, I agree. Putting extra strings on a bass to extend its musical range is the ****ing dumbest idea I've ever heard of. I think we should cut bassists down to their E strings, to prevent them from revolting against the obviously "dominant" string instrument in the modern world.

:amaze: oh god, :smash: he seems like the type of persos that likes to be in the limelight with that last statement

Akira
01-04-2007, 03:27 PM
in that, someone had replied with this


:amaze: oh god, :smash: he seems like the type of persos that likes to be in the limelight with that last statement

I think he was being sarcastic.

Low_End_Communications
01-04-2007, 03:34 PM
I think most of the ERB guys have deals with SIT nowadays.

Imagine what it's like for John Turner, king of Conklin/Ritter/Low End 7 strings!

Radiobass81
01-04-2007, 05:11 PM
i agree why would u paint with candles...

:lol:

I don't like the bass, but I like his playing.

And really, Baudin can make some beatiful music. Transcend (sp?) is boring, but Vanishing is amazing, and Frosty Acres is chilling. Gives me goosebumps :p.

Akira
01-04-2007, 05:20 PM
:lol:

I don't like the bass, but I like his playing.

And really, Baudin can make some beatiful music. Transcend (sp?) is boring, but Vanishing is amazing, and Frosty Acres is chilling. Gives me goosebumps :p.

Yeah, those last two rock. I am working on playing Vanishing. Frosty Acres is harder, I'll get to it eventually. I got a little sidetracked from FA by deciding to work on Mad World.
Curse you EADG and all your good tabs.

bleep_bloop
01-04-2007, 05:23 PM
lol radiobass negged me for repping irishslappop :lol:

Akira
01-04-2007, 05:26 PM
lol radiobass negged me for repping irishslappop :lol:

:lol:
I have been negged for repping people before. It is so lame.
:lol:

Sablate McNuff
01-04-2007, 05:35 PM
:lol:

I don't like the bass, but I like his playing.

And really, Baudin can make some beatiful music. Transcend (sp?) is boring, but Vanishing is amazing, and Frosty Acres is chilling. Gives me goosebumps :p.

Vanishing is tough for me to play. It feels like the lower melody is in triplet form or something. I just can't get it.

That and I because can't figure out anything more than the first measure of the lower melody.

Akira
01-04-2007, 05:40 PM
Vanishing is tough for me to play. It feels like the lower melody is in triplet form or something. I just can't get it.

That and I because can't figure out anything more than the first measure of the lower melody.

If you have powertab I can send you the tab EADG gave me.


It really isn't that hard. When I first saw it I though "Oh man I am screwed", but then I realized it is easy. The way EADG tabbed it the bass notes are dotted quater notes. So really the count is just "1 + 3 1 +3" with both hands playing on one, the right hand on the and, and the left hand on three. After you get that you can just add in the occasional eigth notes in the melody.

Sablate McNuff
01-04-2007, 05:41 PM
Powertabby goodness.

Me want.

Akira
01-04-2007, 05:42 PM
Powertabby goodness.

Me want.

http://download.yousendit.com/B288E242348A6C88

Knock yourself out. It sounds pretty accurate to me.

AlmightyPancake
01-04-2007, 05:43 PM
If you have powertab I can send you the tab EADG gave me.


It really isn't that hard. When I first saw it I though "Oh man I am screwed", but then I realized it is easy. The way EADG tabbed it the bass notes are dotted quater notes. So really the count is just "1 + 3 1 +3" with both hands playing on one, the right hand on the and, and the left hand on three. After you get that you can just add in the occasional eigth notes in the melody.
I would also love to see that tab.

Akira
01-04-2007, 05:44 PM
I would also love to see that tab.

See previous post. It's for 7-string, but you can change it up for 6 I think.

Radiobass81
01-04-2007, 05:46 PM
Yeah, those last two rock. I am working on playing Vanishing. Frosty Acres is harder, I'll get to it eventually. I got a little sidetracked from FA by deciding to work on Mad World.
Curse you EADG and all your good tabs.

Bizarre. From hearing them, I'd think Vanishing would be harder.

I know nothing of tapping, though.

Akira
01-04-2007, 05:48 PM
Bizarre. From hearing them, I'd think Vanishing would be harder.

I know nothing of tapping, though.

Vanishing boils down to a simple rhythm. I could get Frosty Acres if I tried, but I haven't. It might be easier with a delay pedal. There is just one really annoying hard part if FA.

BassVirtuoso
01-04-2007, 05:50 PM
Bizarre. From hearing them, I'd think Vanishing would be harder.

I know nothing of tapping, though.

Did I mention how much I love The Smiths thanks to you?

AlmightyPancake
01-04-2007, 05:53 PM
See previous post. It's for 7-string, but you can change it up for 6 I think.
Awesome. Thanks a lot. It's kinda rough on the 6er, but I think I can make it work.

This has definitely pushed me to work on my tapping a bit more. I LOVE this song.

Sablate McNuff
01-04-2007, 05:53 PM
See previous post. It's for 7-string, but you can change it up for 6 I think.

Not without 27 frets.

It can be re-written for a tenor tuned 6 though.

That looks surprisingly easy, but it sounds so tough.

Akira
01-04-2007, 05:56 PM
Not without 27 frets.

It can be re-written for a tenor tuned 6 though.

That looks surprisingly easy, but it sounds so tough.

Yeah. It is so much easier than it sounds.

AP: No problem. :thumb:

Akira
01-04-2007, 05:59 PM
If either of you want it I also have Frosty Acres for 6 string, also courtesy of EADG.

AlmightyPancake
01-04-2007, 06:01 PM
If either of you want it I also have Frosty Acres for 6 string, also courtesy of EADG.
Anything to work on tapping.

Akira
01-04-2007, 06:06 PM
http://download.yousendit.com/251AE2306338C351

Radiobass81
01-04-2007, 06:06 PM
Did I mention how much I love The Smiths thanks to you?

:p

Nothing beats Cemetry Gates.

AlmightyPancake
01-04-2007, 06:15 PM
http://download.yousendit.com/251AE2306338C351
You're amazing. Thanks a lot, man.

Akira
01-04-2007, 06:16 PM
You're amazing. Thanks a lot, man.

I don't deserve any credit, I didn't make the tabs.

Phalanx
01-04-2007, 06:17 PM
Yves Carbonne > most bassists

herrly
01-04-2007, 06:41 PM
How do you get better at doing the two hand tapping thing? Like playing two different things at once? I cant, my hands wanna play the same rhythm, melody...

Phalanx
01-04-2007, 06:42 PM
How do you get better at doing the two hand tapping thing? Like playing two different things at once? I cant, my hands wanna play the same rhythm, melody...

it's probably practice, though i've never really tried it, I think there's a Stuart Hamm song people recommend starting to learn, can't remember it's name though

(and I for one would be interested to find the name of that song as well)

Akira
01-04-2007, 06:44 PM
Just practice really. Havic wrote up a pretty good intro to tapping lesson.

HaVIC5
01-04-2007, 06:51 PM
Just practice really. Havic wrote up a pretty good intro to tapping lesson.
http://www.sputnikmusic.com/lesson.php?lessonid=236
http://www.sputnikmusic.com/lesson.php?lessonid=237

:thumb:

Oh, and dont go near Sade's lessons also found in Sputnik Music. They're crap. No offense to the guy, but they won't do anything in helping build technique, and he teaches the incorrect meanig of "polyrythm".

EADG
01-06-2007, 11:21 AM
If anyone has any questions about either Jean Baudin songs, you can ask me anytime.



And yes, Sade's lessons do blow.

jon_slaps_bass
01-06-2007, 04:53 PM
4 strings=of course
5 strings= nice
6 strings= sure
7 strings= eh maybe









































12 strings= why?

Akira
01-06-2007, 04:56 PM
Because he wants to?

It puzzles me how he hasn't even recorded music with this yet and people are already getting heated up on both sides. As with any instrument, the music made is the ultimate justification.

EADG
01-06-2007, 05:09 PM
12 strings= why?



More range, different positions, different placement of harmonics, new possibilities for all playing styles and songs to be written?


The real question is, why not?

jon_slaps_bass
01-06-2007, 05:14 PM
More range, different positions, different placement of harmonics, new possibilities for all playing styles and songs to be written?


The real question is, why not?

Sure if a one man band is your goal. When you have the range of a guitar and bass on one instrument I think its pointless. It takes alot of talent to play I suppose I'm not saying that I could. I like music because of the interaction that goes on between the different musicians to create the finished product. Maybe thats why this concept doesn't ring my bell. More power to you guys that like it though :chug: .

Akira
01-06-2007, 05:16 PM
More range, different positions, different placement of harmonics, new possibilities for all playing styles and songs to be written?


The real question is, why not?

123

If he likes it, then that is all that matters.

the101er
01-06-2007, 05:47 PM
Well it comes out looking like sh*t if you use them all together, and to be honest, Jean Baudin tries to do too much on one instrument, and it sounds like ***. I've always thought that tapping is a bad sounding technique.

So wait...

A picture that uses a range of colours looks like ****? While a picture that uses less colours than a five year olds picture is going to look great

That makes NO sense to me.


And yet again, music is subjective. What Baudin stuff have you listened to? Most Nuclear Rabbit is recorded with a sixer anyway, which is hardly outlandish or wild, and I find his solo stuff to be very tasteful... well, not 'Transend', it bores me, but 'Vanishing' blows my bollocks. Seriously, I have never heard such an emotive piece of music that has been produced simply using one instrument.

Opinions blow, especially when they aren't yours eh? :rolleyes:

EADG
01-06-2007, 07:10 PM
Sure if a one man band is your goal. When you have the range of a guitar and bass on one instrument I think its pointless. It takes alot of talent to play I suppose I'm not saying that I could. I like music because of the interaction that goes on between the different musicians to create the finished product. Maybe thats why this concept doesn't ring my bell. More power to you guys that like it though :chug: .


That's cool too, but what if you use all of the strings in your solo music and only some of them in a band?

Say you only use from E to G and never touch the rest of the strings. Is that any different from using a 4 string bass, really?

Criss Frantic
01-06-2007, 08:13 PM
But that would defeat the purpose of owning an ERB.

EADG
01-06-2007, 08:34 PM
But that would defeat the purpose of owning an ERB.


I said if you use the extra strings in your solo work.

Criss Frantic
01-06-2007, 08:40 PM
Ah ok I understand, I thought they were two seperate statements. My bad.

Keepitcoolidge
01-06-2007, 09:42 PM
That bass is ridiculous. It might sound cool if you could get your entire hand around it.

EADG
01-06-2007, 10:19 PM
That bass is ridiculous. It might sound cool if you could get your entire hand around it.


You can. Watch him play and you will see.

Akira
01-06-2007, 10:20 PM
You can. Watch him play and you will see.

Nah man. He can't play it. He just wants to look cool.

BassVirtuoso
01-06-2007, 10:23 PM
Nah man. He can't play it. He just wants to look cool.

Mark Hoppus LOL

Akira
01-06-2007, 10:26 PM
Mark Hoppus LOL

Hoppus rocks. I bet you can't play Carousel. He can...
...sitting down...

Criss Frantic
01-06-2007, 10:39 PM
I wish Mark Hoppus jokes were funny. Then I'd never stop laughing reading threads here.

Left Shoe
01-06-2007, 11:55 PM
do you people honestly think he woudlve had that thing made if he didnt have a purpose for it?

and please if you dont think they are using it well listen to their music and tell me otherwise.

http://www.myspace.com/jeanbaudin

http://www.myspace.com/yvescarbonne

tim_commerfordism
01-07-2007, 05:10 PM
That looks appauling.

Akira
01-07-2007, 05:11 PM
I wish Mark Hoppus jokes were funny. Then I'd never stop laughing reading threads here.

To be fair to me, I actually have seen videos of that song where he had to sit on the drum riser to play the intro.

EADG
01-07-2007, 05:48 PM
To be fair to me, I actually have seen videos of that song where he had to sit on the drum riser to play the intro.


Understandable when you have a strap down to your knees.

Akira
01-07-2007, 05:53 PM
Understandable when you have a strap down to your knees.

Exactly why you shouldn't wear your bass at your knees.

Jaded
01-07-2007, 06:31 PM
So wait...

A picture that uses a range of colours looks like ****? While a picture that uses less colours than a five year olds picture is going to look great

That makes NO sense to me.


And yet again, music is subjective. What Baudin stuff have you listened to? Most Nuclear Rabbit is recorded with a sixer anyway, which is hardly outlandish or wild, and I find his solo stuff to be very tasteful... well, not 'Transend', it bores me, but 'Vanishing' blows my bollocks. Seriously, I have never heard such an emotive piece of music that has been produced simply using one instrument.

Opinions blow, especially when they aren't yours eh? :rolleyes:
Wow, don't even remember posting that. Uh, my analogy doesn't really make sense but I think I was going for something along the lines of "mixing all the colors together at once looks like sh*t" though that doesn't work because he doesn't play all his strings at once.

I don't think Jean Baudin's writing is bad, I was addressing the way he plays his instrument (i.e. tapping) more than anything. I stated my opinion that tapping is an ugly sounding way to play.

EADG
01-07-2007, 09:17 PM
Wow, don't even remember posting that. Uh, my analogy doesn't really make sense but I think I was going for something along the lines of "mixing all the colors together at once looks like sh*t" though that doesn't work because he doesn't play all his strings at once.

I don't think Jean Baudin's writing is bad, I was addressing the way he plays his instrument (i.e. tapping) more than anything. I stated my opinion that tapping is an ugly sounding way to play.



You clearly have not listened to enough of his work. He has said himself that in Nuclear Rabbit, only around 10% of his playing is tapping.


You can't judge his whole career based on the 4 songs you hear on his myspace.

Jaded
01-07-2007, 10:24 PM
Goddamn you are dense. Thanks for putting words in my mouth, and making me explain myself once again. I was talking about tapping, not Jean Baudin's non-tapping work with Nuclear Rabbit.

I don't like tapping, I don't like the way it sounds, Jean Baudin uses ERBs and plays touchstyle on them, so naturally I don't like the music that's he plays on them.

Why play an otherwise cool piece of music on one of these:
http://www.bassplayers.co.za/10string2.jpg

When you can play it on one of these:
http://arizonachambermusic.org/Images/06-07/steinway-piano.jpg

herrly
01-07-2007, 11:08 PM
If I wanted more range and possibilities I'd play an ERB instead of a Piano. Basically because if I went to Piano, it'd be like starting from scratch and learning to play all over again, but if I went to an ERB, I'd just have to learn to tap.

I support the whole ERB thing though, and would like to purchase one in the near future, I just gotta work on my tapping skills.

e p
01-07-2007, 11:58 PM
do you people honestly think he woudlve had that thing made if he didnt have a purpose for it?

and please if you dont think they are using it well listen to their music and tell me otherwise.

http://www.myspace.com/jeanbaudin

http://www.myspace.com/yvescarbonne

christ how come every ERB player has to be so superficial on their websites and always have a picture of them playing their monster bass, or just the bass itself? Then they even have to mention it in the description itself, as if I didnt notice. I find it ironic that these are the individuals that believe the size of the instrument doesnt matter, and its what you play that matters, yet they are the first one to point out their instruments.

herrly
01-08-2007, 12:15 AM
Umm, maybe they're just proud of the instrument they play? I know I have a few pics of my 5 string on my page...

HaVIC5
01-08-2007, 12:32 AM
Goddamn you are dense. Thanks for putting words in my mouth, and making me explain myself once again. I was talking about tapping, not Jean Baudin's non-tapping work with Nuclear Rabbit.

I don't like tapping, I don't like the way it sounds, Jean Baudin uses ERBs and plays touchstyle on them, so naturally I don't like the music that's he plays on them.

Why play an otherwise cool piece of music on one of these:
http://www.bassplayers.co.za/10string2.jpg

When you can play it on one of these:
http://arizonachambermusic.org/Images/06-07/steinway-piano.jpg
Why play one of these

http://www.theborga.com/Fender%20Jazz%20Bass.jpg

When its a lot easier to play the left hand for one of these

http://academickids.com/encyclopedia/images/6/69/YamahaDX7.jpg

Akira
01-08-2007, 04:40 AM
Adam, you don't get to talk because you play ERB's and piano. What kind of jerk does that? They are the exact same instrument, except that ERBs suck.

Akira
01-08-2007, 04:43 AM
christ how come every ERB player has to be so superficial on their websites and always have a picture of them playing their monster bass, or just the bass itself? Then they even have to mention it in the description itself, as if I didnt notice. I find it ironic that these are the individuals that believe the size of the instrument doesnt matter, and its what you play that matters, yet they are the first one to point out their instruments.

...?
I think most solo musicians have a picture of their gear on their website. Maybe they are proud of what they play?
http://victorwooten.com/
Go to "VixRig".
He has pictures of his Fodera!!! He must be an egotistical jerk who just wants attention for having a custom bass!
:rolleyes:

Left Shoe
01-08-2007, 05:02 AM
he only has pictures of it because all he does is DT wank

the101er
01-08-2007, 04:08 PM
Wow, don't even remember posting that. Uh, my analogy doesn't really make sense but I think I was going for something along the lines of "mixing all the colors together at once looks like sh*t" though that doesn't work because he doesn't play all his strings at once.

To be fair, Jeans style isn't hitting as many strings and notes with as many fingers as possibly, which is what "mixing all the colors together at once looks like sh*t" suggests. There is bass and melody going on there

Akira
01-08-2007, 04:12 PM
he only has pictures of it because all he does is DT wank

Ohshi, you're right.
There goes my argument.

Esp Griffyn
01-08-2007, 04:57 PM
gdgd talking about an instrument that Yves has had in his possession for almost a year now

JoeDaddio
01-08-2007, 05:24 PM
I could beat many children to death with that thing......


I'm seriously beginning to think that ERB's are taking the place of Corvettes and Porsche's in terms of making up for other... ahem... shortcomings.



joe

Akira
01-08-2007, 05:36 PM
gdgd talking about an instrument that Yves has had in his possession for almost a year now

You are thinking of his 10 string. This one is brand new.

EADG
01-08-2007, 08:41 PM
Why play an otherwise cool piece of music on one of these:
http://www.bassplayers.co.za/10string2.jpg

When you can play it on one of these:
http://arizonachambermusic.org/Images/06-07/steinway-piano.jpg


First of all, **** you for insulting me.


Secondly, compare the timbre of a 10 string bass to that of a grand piano. TOTALLY different. Compare the playing style, one again, totally different. And that's just the surface, the differences are endless.

Akira
01-08-2007, 08:43 PM
First of all, **** you for insulting me.


Secondly, compare the timbre of a 10 string bass to that of a grand piano. TOTALLY different. Compare the playing style, one again, totally different. And that's just the surface, the differences are endless.

I already explained this to Adam. It's a true fact that ERBs and piano are exactly the same. Timbre and playing style and stuff don't count, they both have a lot of notes.

EADG
01-08-2007, 08:46 PM
I already explained this to Adam. It's a true fact that ERBs and piano are exactly the same. Timbre and playing style and stuff don't count, they both have a lot of notes.


Adam doesn't know ****, he has never even touched an ERB or piano.

Akira
01-08-2007, 08:47 PM
Adam doesn't know ****, he has never even touched an ERB or piano.

That's why I had to explain it to him.
He's such an idiot.

Thonk
01-08-2007, 08:48 PM
You are thinking of his 10 string. This one is brand new.
No.

He's related to Chris. He's always right.

EADG
01-08-2007, 08:49 PM
No.

He's related to Chris. He's always right.


Give ESP a little credit, I dont think anyone could be as bad as Chris.

Akira
01-08-2007, 08:51 PM
Chris...

Please tell me you don't mean Kubicki whoring, Hellborg sucking Chris.

EADG
01-08-2007, 08:51 PM
I predict this gets closed before tommorow.

EADG
01-08-2007, 08:51 PM
Chris...

Please tell me you don't mean Kubicki whoring, Hellborg sucking Chris.


The one and only.

Akira
01-08-2007, 08:52 PM
The one and only.

I think I knew that they were related. I dunno.

It's funny how neither Kubicki or Jonas get mentioned at all anymore.

PERFECTXDARK
01-08-2007, 08:53 PM
Progess is obviously going to be gradual.. it usually is in everything. It's not like someone is going to see a 4 string bass in the 60's and say "I wonder if you could get one with 3x as many strings" in a day when even 5 was unheard of. Remember in the 80's when people thought 7 string guitars and 6 string basses were a gimmick? Look at them now.

Those players may have made nice music with their 4 strings, but a lot of that music was made a long time ago. 2 of those people you listed are dead.
And it would be pretty boring if every bass player made music like those 4 people, right?

Now that the bass is in the forefront, doesn't it make sense for people like Yves, Jean, Stu, Garry, Jaquo to take advantage of that to make their bass centric or solo music?

I agree,Also the fact people forgot that when the Bass was first inveted in the past centurys,it started with only 3 Strings.

Who cares how many strings you have,people keep saying oh it would be impossible in a band setting,he does solo bass it works well,and yes it is just his chosen brush to "paint" with.

EADG
01-08-2007, 08:58 PM
I think I knew that they were related. I dunno.

It's funny how neither Kubicki or Jonas get mentioned at all anymore.


They're brothers IIRC.


I happen to like the sound of Kubicki basses.. I'd like to play one someday but I don't think they make left-handed models.

EADG
01-08-2007, 09:00 PM
I agree,Also the fact people forgot that when the Bass was first inveted in the past centurys,it started with only 3 Strings.

True, we should probably burn our 4 strings. Oh hell, let's burn electric basses in general. Actually.. we should all play cello or viol de gamba.



Who cares how many strings you have,people keep saying oh it would be impossible in a band setting,he does solo bass it works well,and yes it is just his chosen brush to "paint" with.

I don't understand how it's impossible in a band setting; every picture I've seen of Jean live with NR he has been playing either the Pac 9 or Hideous Claw.

Akira
01-08-2007, 09:01 PM
They're brothers IIRC.


I happen to like the sound of Kubicki basses.. I'd like to play one someday but I don't think they make left-handed models.

I have never played a Kubicki. I have seen some vids of Stu Hamm using them back in the 80's, I didn't really like the tone. I like modern, but it was a little too empty.

EADG
01-08-2007, 09:03 PM
I have never played a Kubicki. I have seen some vids of Stu Hamm using them back in the 80's, I didn't really like the tone. I like modern, but it was a little too empty.


I agree, but Stu's tone in the late 80's/early 90's was great for cutting through the mix (which works perfectly for his bass-oriented music).

Akira
01-08-2007, 09:05 PM
I agree, but Stu's tone in the late 80's/early 90's was great for cutting through the mix (which works perfectly for his bass-oriented music).

That's true. The bass sounds wonderful in a band situation, like on Kings of Sleep.

EADG
01-08-2007, 09:07 PM
That's true. The bass sounds wonderful in a band situation, like on Kings of Sleep.


I've never listened to that whole album. I really should pick it up. Radio Free Albemuth is a great album though.


His tone + slap and tap = secks.

I really want to finish learning Black Ice now.

irishslappop
01-08-2007, 09:12 PM
this thread royally sucks.

EADG
01-08-2007, 09:26 PM
this thread royally sucks.


Then why post in it?

irishslappop
01-08-2007, 09:28 PM
do you not understand the nature of my post?

bleep_bloop
01-08-2007, 09:39 PM
this thread royally sucks.

1 2 ****ing 3

EADG
01-08-2007, 10:18 PM
do you not understand the nature of my post?


No, I'm pretty dense to be honest.

Radiobass81
01-08-2007, 10:19 PM
I don't understand how it's impossible in a band setting; every picture I've seen of Jean live with NR he has been playing either the Pac 9 or Hideous Claw.

Exactly.

That he uses all of his strings there is another question but, you know.

PERFECTXDARK
01-08-2007, 10:21 PM
True, we should probably burn our 4 strings. Oh hell, let's burn electric basses in general. Actually.. we should all play cello or viol de gamba.

No,I was also just saying that alot of people dont have alll the facts haha.


I don't understand how it's impossible in a band setting; every picture I've seen of Jean live with NR he has been playing either the Pac 9 or Hideous Claw.[/QUOTE]


No,No I wasent saying IT IS,I was for it not against it like most of the people here.

EADG
01-08-2007, 10:22 PM
Exactly.

That he uses all of his strings there is another question but, you know.


In NR, not likely but it's possible. He did mention in Ask a Pro that he rearranged one of the NR songs to be played on the low C# and F# strings.


In EOS, I believe he does but I'm not sure, havn't listened to them very much.


In his solo stuff, he definetely does.

EADG
01-08-2007, 10:22 PM
No,I was also just saying that alot of people dont have alll the facts haha.


I don't understand how it's impossible in a band setting; every picture I've seen of Jean live with NR he has been playing either the Pac 9 or Hideous Claw.


No,No I wasent saying IT IS,I was for it not against it like most of the people here.[/QUOTE]


I know, I was backing you up.

rh15951
01-09-2007, 07:58 AM
Who cares how many strings you have,people keep saying oh it would be impossible in a band setting,he does solo bass it works well,and yes it is just his chosen brush to "paint" with.

Try painting this:
http://www.wayoflife.org/fbns/in-thefootsteps-bibletrans/Graphics%204/rome-vatican-sistine-chapel.jpg

with this:
http://www.basildon.gov.uk/80256B6E0039AD9F/vWeb/flDBUS69TD9P/$file/paint+roller+140x140.gif

:thumb:

Phalanx
01-09-2007, 08:15 AM
Give ESP a little credit, I dont think anyone could be as bad as Chris.

am I missing something here? i was wondering where our beloved Chris K went

Jaded
01-09-2007, 03:08 PM
To be fair, Jeans style isn't hitting as many strings and notes with as many fingers as possibly, which is what "mixing all the colors together at once looks like sh*t" suggests. There is bass and melody going on there
Did it say it was? I've said that my analogy doesn't work, so ignore it, for chirstssakes.

PERFECTXDARK
01-09-2007, 03:13 PM
am I missing something here? i was wondering where our beloved Chris K went

He told me on msn,he moved onto TalkBass?

Akira
01-09-2007, 03:16 PM
He told me on msn,he moved onto TalkBass?

In other words, he realized we didn't like him, and found a forum with even more elitism than MX.

o b s
01-09-2007, 03:22 PM
this is a terrible forum for metaphors

Jaded
01-09-2007, 03:22 PM
First of all, **** you for insulting me.


Secondly, compare the timbre of a 10 string bass to that of a grand piano. TOTALLY different. Compare the playing style, one again, totally different. And that's just the surface, the differences are endless.

****, don't pretend like you didn't deserve it. If you misinterpret what I've said, especially after I've clearly stated my OPINION, which involves TAPPING. NOTHING MORE.

Hey, maybe, just maybe, my point was that I prefer the way a piano sounds over an erb? Telling me about the differences is like preaching to the choir. I know, obviously, and I think an piano sounds infinitely better than a touchstyle bass/guitar.

EADG
01-09-2007, 05:51 PM
****, don't pretend like you didn't deserve it. If you misinterpret what I've said, especially after I've clearly stated my OPINION, which involves TAPPING. NOTHING MORE.

Hey, maybe, just maybe, my point was that I prefer the way a piano sounds over an erb? Telling me about the differences is like preaching to the choir. I know, obviously, and I think an piano sounds infinitely better than a touchstyle bass/guitar.


No, I dont think I deserve to be called dense for not misinterpreting something. As if you've never misinterpreted something on the internet.


So what if you prefer a piano over an erb, maybe I prefer an erb. Just because you like the timbre of piano more doesn't automatically make it a better instrument.

EADG
01-09-2007, 05:52 PM
am I missing something here? i was wondering where our beloved Chris K went


He went to talkbass to rub elbows with other arrogant douchebags.

Akira
01-09-2007, 05:52 PM
Please guys, don't argue over which instrument sounds better. That is just ridiculous.

EADG
01-09-2007, 05:52 PM
Please guys, don't argue over which instrument sounds better. That is just ridiculous.

I'm not, I like both.


What's ridiculous is to say that one sounds better than the other, that is completely subjective.

Akira
01-09-2007, 05:54 PM
I'm not, I like both.


What's ridiculous is to say that one sounds better than the other, that is completely subjective.

He's just stating his opinion. I don't think he is presenting it as fact.

EADG
01-09-2007, 05:59 PM
He's just stating his opinion. I don't think he is presenting it as fact.


He said why play a piece on an ERB when you can play it on a piano



The answer is pretty damn obvious: You like the timbre and feel of the ERB!


Seems like you are the dense one, Jaded.

Jean Baudin
01-09-2007, 06:17 PM
Down with the Frenchies!

:wave:

EADG
01-09-2007, 06:19 PM
Down with the Frenchies!

:wave:


Care to join our ERB discussion?

Les Claypool
01-09-2007, 06:21 PM
Hi I'm Les Claypool just thought I'd drop in too.

EADG
01-09-2007, 06:23 PM
Hi I'm Les Claypool just thought I'd drop in too.


What's Victor Wooten doing tonight? If he's free he should stop by too

Jaded
01-09-2007, 06:28 PM
So what if you prefer a piano over an erb, maybe I prefer an erb. Just because you like the timbre of piano more doesn't automatically make it a better instrument.
Holy ****, is it that hard to understand what I'm saying? I said I like (my opinion, not stated as fact) the way pianos sound over tapped ERBs.

I never said one was better than the other, you assumed that. Seriously, my posts aren't complicated or confusing. Just read them and think about them before you start any heated arguments.

Jean Baudin
01-09-2007, 06:30 PM
Care to join our ERB discussion?


I have a feeling you may be a little biased though..

Well, actually I don't have much to add. It's not for everybody... and that's perfectly fine. Some people think basses should have only 4-strings, some like more. There's plenty of room in the world for both. That's about it.

EADG
01-09-2007, 06:30 PM
Holy ****, is it that hard to understand what I'm saying? I said I like (my opinion, not stated as fact) the way pianos sound over tapped ERBs.

I never said one was better than the other, you assumed that. Seriously, my posts aren't complicated or confusing. Just read them and think about them before you start any heated arguments.


I wasn't trying to start any arguments, you were the one who called me dense just because you weren't specific enough in your post and I didn't understand it.


Evidentally, yes it is that hard to understand what you're saying!

Victor Wooten
01-09-2007, 06:31 PM
What's Victor Wooten doing tonight? If he's free he should stop by too

I've been reading this for a while now, just didn't reply because nobody was talking about how good i am at double thumping.

Specialsauce
01-09-2007, 06:31 PM
I've been reading this for a while now, just didn't reply because nobody was talking about how good i am at double thumping.

i lawled.

Jaded
01-09-2007, 06:31 PM
He said why play a piece on an ERB when you can play it on a piano



The answer is pretty damn obvious: You like the timbre and feel of the ERB!


Seems like you are the dense one, Jaded.

:confused:

This post just made my day. That's basically what I've been saying this whole time, and you are telling it to me as if I'm getting served.

EADG
01-09-2007, 06:32 PM
It's not for everybody... and that's perfectly fine. Some people think basses should have only 4-strings, some like more. There's plenty of room in the world for both. That's about it.


The question is, why can some people just not grasp that...

EADG
01-09-2007, 06:33 PM
I've been reading this for a while now, just didn't reply because nobody was talking about how good i am at double thumping.


I have your cd, A Show of Hands. You're pretty damn good!

__MARK HOPPUS__
01-09-2007, 06:33 PM
Hi Guys I Liek To Play Bass!!!!!!"

EADG
01-09-2007, 06:34 PM
:confused:

This post just made my day. That's basically what I've been saying this whole time, and you are telling it to me as if I'm getting served.


I did not tell it to you like that, you just misinterpreted my post.

Jaded
01-09-2007, 06:39 PM
Evidentally, yes it is that hard to understand what you're saying!
Just because you have to be told the same thing multiple times does not mean that I'm being hard to understand.

Spaceman Spiff
01-09-2007, 06:39 PM
If he misinterpreted it incorrectly, would that mean he interpreted it correctly?



:eek:

Jaded
01-09-2007, 06:44 PM
The question is, why can some people just not grasp that...

Dude, I said that I prefer the way that a piano sounds over a tapped ERB. Naturally, somebody else's opinion might be different, and might prefer the way a tapped ERB sounds over a piano. I have no problem with that.

If you want to be told my opinion, I'd be happy to argue with you some more.