Your IQ

[Relmar'd]

Although IQ is hardly an accurate unit to measure intelligence, it is a starting point and has some merit.

Having said that, what was your score range?





I got 150 or something. I am good in math and physics, and a lot of IQ questions reflect the problem solving techniques from these two disciplines. I was lousy in school for most of my life, and literally doubled my average in grade 11. Its been uphill ever since.

[BassRevelation]

Although IQ is hardly an accurate unit to measure intelligence, it is a starting point and has some merit.

Having said that, what was your score range?





I got 150 or something. I am good in math and physics, and a lot of IQ questions reflect the problem solving techniques from these two disciplines. I was lousy in school for most of my life, and literally doubled my average in grade 11. Its been uphill ever since.
the IQ is very accurate in measuring intelligence, or more specifically, what you already know.

The IQ is also a reliable test, so the fact that your average changed in such a manner means that the way the test was given was off.
Overall, IQs are reliable and valid, but just what do the scores mean? Absolutely nothing.

[nowhesingsnowhesobs]

I've never actually taken an IQ test, and I don't particularly want to.

We took some cognitive ability tests in year 7, which I don't think I did too well on. But I pwn at school so far.

the IQ is very accurate in measuring intelligence, or more specifically, what you already know.

The IQ is also a reliable test, so the fact that your average changed in such a manner means that the way the test was given was off.
Overall, IQs are reliable and valid, but just what do the scores mean? Absolutely nothing.
umm, that's a little confused. What point are you trying to make?

[BassRevelation]

My point was that the IQ is a valid measurement.

With that, I dont believe it was conducted correctly if his average doubled.

No matter how valid it is, it doesnt mean anything. A smart, unmotivated student will not do as well as one who is not as smart but motivated to do their work. They really dont mean a thing other than "I have a higher IQ than you."

[Relmar'd]

My point was that the IQ is a valid measurement.

With that, I dont believe it was conducted correctly if his average doubled.

No matter how valid it is, it doesnt mean anything. A smart, unmotivated student will not do as well as one who is not as smart but motivated to do their work. They really dont mean a thing other than "I have a higher IQ than you."

No... my school average doubled. Meaning even though I had a high IQ score I was bad at school, then I suddenly became hard working and my grades doubled.

The IQ score is valid, agreed. But as you may know it measures only very small aspects of intelligence. But if anyone thinks that school smarts are what define intelligence then they are not very intelligent to begin with.

[BOG180]

I've never taken an IQ test, atleast I don't remember taking one. When do people usually take one?

[The_Passenger]

I've taken three or four IQ tests, although I don't think any were particularly accurate as I've had scores ranging from 120-145. I've never actually taken a professional one in school (or anywhere else) though, which I would be more inclined to believe to be accurate.

[BassRevelation]

No... my school average doubled. Meaning even though I had a high IQ score I was bad at school, then I suddenly became hard working and my grades doubled.
ooohh

sorry, huge misunderstanding.

The IQ score is valid, agreed. But as you may know it measures only very small aspects of intelligence. But if anyone thinks that school smarts are what define intelligence then they are not very intelligent to begin with.
agreed

[Relmar'd]

I've never taken an IQ test, atleast I don't remember taking one. When do people usually take one?

Most people do it in early elementary school, to see if they are eligable for enrolment in gifted programs. You can take one at any age I think, because the test is comparitive and designed to give you a rating relative to others.

[Auberge le Mouton Noir]

I've never done a proper test. Never had chance

[Yield]

I had one that was administered by this guy that my parents took me too, so I assume it was pretty accurate/proper. If I remember correctly, it was 127.

[Der Übermensch]

I've taken multiple tests over a period of a few years, and generally speaking, it fluxuates around 145 or so...

[griftadan]

i took one when i was a kid, it was like 120ish

[thedeadwalk!]

I want to say mine's in the 100-105 range.

[Syncratic]

I was given the test in first grade, got a score of 129....my younger brother took it in the same grade a two years later and got 135.

[Africa]

147, it was probably bogus though so my IQ could even be less or more, IQ tests are bogus in general.

[YDload]

if you're so smart then why did you make a poll where the lowest choice should mean "less than 80" but actually means "more than 80"

pac-man devours the higher number so it should be < 80 not >80

you moron.

[Electronic Wolf]

142.

[italic zero]

who cares?

[Electronic Wolf]

No one.

[YDload]

who cares?

people who need numbers to appear smart instead of just saying/doing smart things!

honestly, the internet is full of nerds so we're all big ****ing geniuses here.

and the only way anyone would know their IQ is if they got tested, and they typically only test kids who they figure are going to have higher-than-average IQs. so of course there are a lot of people posting high IQs here, because they're the ones who know what geniuses they are! WOW

[JohnXDoe]

147

[MattyBlade]

Not sure where exactly to get an iq test, so I really couldn't say.

[MegaPhony]

IQ is more a measurement of ability and breadth of learning.
Not necessarily intelligence.
I think people with higher IQ's are able to process quicker and learn faster.
Not necessarily MORE, but in some cases yes.

[The Stig]

I'm not 100% sure, but since >80 covers all of the possible scores I'm in, I will choose that one. I'm around 140-ish, but I have never taken an actual test where they told me the scores, so I don't know.

[MegaPhony]

people who need numbers to appear smart instead of just saying/doing smart things!

honestly, the internet is full of nerds so we're all big ****ing geniuses here.

and the only way anyone would know their IQ is if they got tested, and they typically only test kids who they figure are going to have higher-than-average IQs. so of course there are a lot of people posting high IQs here, because they're the ones who know what geniuses they are! WOW

I got tested when I was a kid :wave: :smoke:

[ashman]

I've done like 5 tests varying from about 120 to about 140, but those were on those dodgy internet sites, so take away 40 from that it's about right.

IQ has never really done anything for me, it's just a way to give yourself an ego blowjob really.

I heard somewhere that you can improve your IQ score by training yourself to do better at those tests.

[MegaPhony]

You can improve anything through training.

[AlienEater]

I've never had an IQ test

[sexymuffin]

mine's like 137 i think

i took a test

and that's what it was if i remember correctly

but it doesn't really matter anyways

[Africa]

There's factors missing in IQ tests so basically they fail to measure stupidity or intelligence.

[YDload]

IQ is more a measurement of ability and breadth of learning.
Not necessarily intelligence.
I think people with higher IQ's are able to process quicker and learn faster.
Not necessarily MORE, but in some cases yes.

exactly. it's not like they ask you a series of trivia questions to determine what you already know, IQ is a measurement of your ability to learn. it's relatively stable throughout your life.

I'm not 100% sure, but since >80 covers all of the possible scores I'm in, I will choose that one. I'm around 140-ish, but I have never taken an actual test where they told me the scores, so I don't know.

yeah like i said, there may have been a bit of a typo in that post. so i clicked it too >:-}

[RNR]

I'm not 100% sure, but since >80 covers all of the possible scores I'm in, I will choose that one. I'm around 140-ish, but I have never taken an actual test where they told me the scores, so I don't know.

I've never taken an IQ test but i'm sure mine is above 80 so that one gets my vote too :D.

[Hababi]

I took a wunderlict test (the one Quarterbacks take in the NFL scouting combine), and I saw what it supposedly matches up to IQ wise, but I won't say what it is (though I will say that I was satisfied with it).

Keep this in mind though, anyone who might feel proud about a very high IQ test score: Bobby Fischer, Madonna, and Michael Savage all have very high IQ's. You're not in good company :lol:

[even if they were canadian]

I took an IQ test in 7th grade, but was never told the score. I was going to ask, but I never really got around to it. It's not a terribly useful figure.

[The End]

michael savage is dispicable and should be shot

[Relmar'd]

yeah like i said, there may have been a bit of a typo in that post. so i clicked it too >:-}
haha i always make that same mistake. i guess its because i don't deal with too many inequalities.

u prude nazi u :)

[YDload]

the only thing worse for misappropriating intelligence than IQ is joining Mensa.

[Stig Caraveo]

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=512825

[stevensonmat2]

mondaytuesdaywensdaythursdayfridaysaturdaysunday

[sexymuffin]

you need to throw in "happy days!" in between a few of those

[stevensonmat2]

not if im a gigantic rabbit robot.

[Stig Caraveo]

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=512825

[-1up!-]

IQ is more a measurement of ability and breadth of learning.
Not necessarily intelligence.
I think people with higher IQ's are able to process quicker and learn faster.
Not necessarily MORE, but in some cases yes.

Exactly. Last I took a test I hit between 130-145 but I distance myself from IQ tests. IQ is overrated or misunderstood by most people.

I don't believe calculating intelligence is something that can accurately be done.

[Give me Beer]

I do not, for a minute, believe that all the people on here are highly gifted (IQ above 130). The average IQ is around a 100 and all you guys fluctuate around 130-150? Yea right!

[peeted]

were the hell did you people take your iq tests? 140 + is suposed to be genious iq. iv done a couple of online ones wich got results around 135 and 140 but im shure id score lower on a real iq test.

[-1up!-]

I made an official one in a psychology class. And I'd wager it's not the average person who would frequent a PNWI section on a music forum.

[lunchforthesky]

I've never taken a real IQ test but ive done a few online and it seems to fluctuate between 125 and 150 but we all know they aren't reliable so ive no idea what my real score is.

[The_Passenger]

I do not, for a minute, believe that all the people on here are highly gifted (IQ above 130). The average IQ is around a 100 and all you guys fluctuate around 130-150? Yea right!
This is why I don't really take any of the test I've done seriously. I'm sure I wouldn't get much over 120 if that on a professional one.

[Auberge le Mouton Noir]

I do not, for a minute, believe that all the people on here are highly gifted (IQ above 130). The average IQ is around a 100 and all you guys fluctuate around 130-150? Yea right!

This is a musicians forums, in a politics section, which is not a good sample, and a thread about IQ tests, which is an even worse sample. If my IQ was 90 I sure as hell wouldn't shout about it in here.

[Joey Hoser]

I do not, for a minute, believe that all the people on here are highly gifted (IQ above 130). The average IQ is around a 100 and all you guys fluctuate around 130-150? Yea right!

That just shows that the tests are usually bogus. I've taken two, and got scores of 138 and 156.

I like to think I'm pretty smart, but I really don't believe I'm some sort of super-genius.

[italic zero]

I'm pretty sure I am.

[superpeer]

I took some online tests, I've scored as much as 150 or something, but yeah, they suck. You could guess your way through them, anyway. Plus, most IQ tests seem to be rather mathematical and I don't like that. >=[

I know I be smart, anyways. True intelligence is shown in pub discussions.

[Give me Beer]

This is a musicians forums, in a politics section, which is not a good sample, and a thread about IQ tests, which is an even worse sample. If my IQ was 90 I sure as hell wouldn't shout about it in here.

Even so, I haven't seen that many people posting on here that I would classify as that intelligent. I'm just betting most people on here have taken the online ones, which always give you far too many IQ points to begin with. :)

[Auberge le Mouton Noir]

Even so, I haven't seen that many people posting on here that I would classify as that intelligent. I'm just betting most people on here have taken the online ones, which always give you far too many IQ points to begin with. :)

People don't pay to be insulted, do they ;)

[ashman]

Best bet, is to take an Online IQ test then take away 40 and that's more or less your real IQ :thumb:

[-1up!-]

Even so, I haven't seen that many people posting on here that I would classify as that intelligent. I'm just betting most people on here have taken the online ones, which always give you far too many IQ points to begin with. :)

You're exaggerating the link between IQ and intelligence. As said before, IQ measures ability and breadth of learning rather than intelligence. It has not much to do with sounding intelligent in a discussion.

[MegaPhony]

You can't gauge intelligence by text either by the way.

[Danish]

My IQ is 132.

[YDload]

not smart enough!

[RNR]

I didn't see the poll working out because:

1. People can never resist voting. Even if they can't answer.
2. People tend to lie about these things.
3. The first option means greater than 80; that's everyone :lol:

[Sammy_L_D]

I have one simple argument for why IQ tests can't measure your intelligence:

I did one once and got 197.

[perriwinkle]

im sure someones mentioned this but its kinda stupid that the guy put >80 instead of <80 and i cant really imagine anyone with an IQ of less than 80 anyway. but yeah ive gotten 142 twice so i guess thats my IQ

[Der Übermensch]

An IQ less then 80 is not unheard of... Below 70 and you start to reach levels of mental retardation.

[YDload]

An IQ less then 80 is not unheard of... Below 70 and you start to reach levels of mental retardation.

below 80-75 is mentally retarded, at least that's what Forrest Gump taught me.

[-1up!-]

I have one simple argument for why IQ tests can't measure your intelligence:

I did one once and got 197.

If you think doing one test and having crazy results on it discredits IQ tests as a whole, then you probably didn't deserve that 197 anyway.

[peeted]

einsteins iq was 160

[ashman]

einsteins iq was 160

I heard it was in the 190-200 region.

[nowhesingsnowhesobs]

Valid scores of 130+ should actually be very rare. IQ scores are meant to form a bell curve over an entire population, so 130s should be about as unusual as sub 70 scores. I think.

Interesting fact: Feynmann only had an IQ in the 120s.

[peeted]

I heard it was in the 190-200 region.

are you shure your not thinking of steven hawking? his iq is 200

[Africa]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marilyn_vos_Savant

Has highest recorded IQ.

[ashman]

are you shure your not thinking of steven hawking? his iq is 200

Apparently, we don't know his IQ

http://www.einstein-website.de/z_information/variousthings.html#iq

While I was searching for Hawkins IQ, I found this

http://www.faqs.org/qa/qa-9465.html

I had to laugh :lol:

[YDload]

Valid scores of 130+ should actually be very rare. IQ scores are meant to form a bell curve over an entire population, so 130s should be about as unusual as sub 70 scores. I think.

Interesting fact: Feynmann only had an IQ in the 120s.

but the people in this thread aren't a random distribution of the entire population. they're posting in this thread because they have high IQs and feel proud of it :)

[italic zero]

the disproportionate number of high scores is actually a legitimate statistical criticism of the tests, though it's obviously exaggerated ITT

[nowhesingsnowhesobs]

Yeah, but some of these guys are complete idiots. Like Danish has to have made his score up.

[YDload]

Danish isn't an idiot, he's just really really really liberal.

[Hababi]

Yeah, but some of these guys are complete idiots. Like Danish has to have made his score up.

Umm Bobby Fischer....

[nowhesingsnowhesobs]

no but danish doesn't even make a good job of justifying his wackiness.

edit: but you're just a zionist zero, so what do you know really

after all, he has some good points

[Iskandar]

Yeah, but some of these guys are complete idiots. Like Danish has to have made his score up.
132 isn't out of the question.

My mother, who's qualified as a psychologist, estimated mine at 144. But hey, who says that wasn't biased. Informal tests seem to place it pretty high, but I doubt as high as they say. It might be 135, optimistically.

[Hababi]

no but danish doesn't even make a good job of justifying his wackiness.


And Bobby Fischer does????

[YDload]

political leanings have nothing to do with intelligence.

[spitfirejunky]

No one's gonna fix the first option?

[Alive]

Hardly ever post here, but this is something I'm 'good' at and feel proud about.

My IQ, as measured in 3 different mensa tests, came out at 155, 149 and 142. If you live in the UK, you can do the mensa home test for free, and they'll mark it for £10, and if you get in the top 5% they invite you to take the supervised, where if you get in the top 2% you'll be able to join.

But really, there are basically zero advantages to joining mensa (or knowing you have a high IQ basically, apart from to feel superior).

[Der Übermensch]

No one's gonna fix the first option?


I hope not. I love the irony of it.

[TojesDolan]

I thought it would be a good idea to put my two cents on the subject. I don't think measuring "intelligence" is valid through IQ, because it disregards other things in life that are good to know and make you an intelligent person but are not taken in the grade you get, mostly literature and other general knowledge things... EDITBEFOREPOSTING: yeah now that I think about it I recall some grammar stuff but it's still kinda makes a point =| . It's a subjective thing, intelligence. That's why I just make the tests offered on the internet and think to myself that it's nice to read books and like music just for the sakes of.

Because like, when I made an online test I got like 120 and apparently I'm good at physics/mathematics/logic as well as grammar and reading and writing, despite I'm not even a native English-speaker. :|

[Dinosawesome]

I posted 140+ because it makes me feel superior over complete strangers who can't prove or disprove my claims.

Anyone who voted seriously is an idiot regardless of their IQ :thumb:

[Der Übermensch]

Because like, when I made an online test I got like 120 and apparently I'm good at physics/mathematics/logic as well as grammar and reading and writing, despite I'm not even a native English-speaker.
Non-native speakers often have very good grammer though. They learn the language from a more technical standpoint, something that many native speakers never do...

[TojesDolan]

Non-native speakers often have very good grammer though. They learn the language from a more technical standpoint, something that many native speakers never do...
*grammar

...

:p

And yeah I've noticed that in the forums at least, but what non-native speakers lack is probably a florid literary lexicon, probably result of that focus given when studying a foreign language on the technical aspect and not so much in building a handful of cute, more euphonic word database.

[Der Übermensch]

Ja, vocab is probably going to suffer... but still, the only reason I passed English junior year was because I took Latin, and I had to think of all everything in terms of Nominative, Genative and crap like that. It made me realize just how little I knew about my own language when it really came down to it.

[veggie 3.14]

Haven't taken an IQ test, and I really don't want to.

I really suck at maths and stuff... my brain just doesn't work too logically.

[the_green_bastard]

if you're so smart then why did you make a poll where the lowest choice should mean "less than 80" but actually means "more than 80"

pac-man devours the higher number so it should be < 80 not >80

you moron.

:chug:

political leanings have nothing to do with intelligence.

But intelligence has something to do with political leanings.

[Der Übermensch]

No... there are inteligent conservatives and inteligent liberals, just like there are really stupid ones.

[nowhesingsnowhesobs]

I understand that, but I think Danish is a stupid one.
Ja, vocab is probably going to suffer... but still, the only reason I passed English junior year was because I took Latin, and I had to think of all everything in terms of Nominative, Genative and crap like that. It made me realize just how little I knew about my own language when it really came down to it.
I wish I could have taken Latin, but about 0 comprehensives in the UK offer it. You would learn more about English than you do in national curriculum English lessons.

[Malice]

I got 124

[White]

I'm 114, for a 16 year old I think thats decent, right?

[Hababi]

I'm 114, for a 16 year old I think thats decent, right?

IQ doesn't improve with age, if anything, it will only diminish due to the scoring system:smash:

[lunchforthesky]

I understand that, but I think Danish is a stupid one.

I wish I could have taken Latin, but about 0 comprehensives in the UK offer it. You would learn more about English than you do in national curriculum English lessons.

My bro does latin at a comprehensive but i think its pretty rare.

[Der Übermensch]

I'm 114, for a 16 year old I think thats decent, right?

Age is already factored into your score. An 11 year old and a 21 year old with all the same answers will have a much different score.

[Catchthe22]

For the people that are posting stuff above 135, I would have to think that youre test score was unaccurate (unless youre studying to be an engineer or something even higher in the math, sciences, and problem solving). A 135 is roughly about the top 2 percentile and from posting on the forums, Id say most people arent that smart...not even me.

[Der Übermensch]

Ja, the accuracy of the tests is obviously going to vary depending on where/how you take it.
I've taken one that was a computer program type, and another two that were internet. The former gave me 140 exact, the latter two around 150. My ego disagrees, but the first is no doubt more accurate.

[Iskandar]

I understand that, but I think Danish is a stupid one.

I wish I could have taken Latin, but about 0 comprehensives in the UK offer it. You would learn more about English than you do in national curriculum English lessons.
a) Why is he a stupid one? and what are some examples of smart ones?
b) I don't know about that.

[RockAndRoll]

IQ doesn't improve with age, if anything, it will only diminish due to the scoring system:smash:

Nah, for the average person it should stay the same, but just as many people's will increase as will decrease.

[italic zero]

Can the tests really distinguish between the mental age of a 30 year old and a 40 year old?

[RockAndRoll]

Can the tests really distinguish between the mental age of a 30 year old and a 40 year old?
Well if I'm not mistaken a '30 year old' mental age just means your score is the average score for 30 year olds. So it's possible that a 30 year old mental age is the same as a 40 year old mental age.

[Der Übermensch]

Not a 30 and 40 year old.

[Knifeboy]

My IQ is 125-129..
Not that it matters, I feel pretty stupid most of the time

Edit: One of the most accurate online IQ tests: http://iqtest.dk/main.swf .. It's culture fair, unbloated, and the site isn't trying to make any money.

[italic zero]

Well if I'm not mistaken a '30 year old' mental age just means your score is the average score for 30 year olds. So it's possible that a 30 year old mental age is the same as a 40 year old mental age.
I'm saying the scores are calculated by dividing mental age by physical age, so if a 40 year old had the same score as a 30 year old he would get a lower quotient.

[RockAndRoll]

Yup, as it turns out I don't really know what I'm talking about.

[nowhesingsnowhesobs]

a) Why is he a stupid one? and what are some examples of smart ones?
b) I don't know about that.The national curriculum up to about 16 is, as a whole, not all that worthwhile. Smarter pupils would certainly gain from some knowledge of Latin, and, trust me, you don't learn **** in English lessons until the last two years of school.

[The Stig]

To address the argument about intellectual age -- In the late teens to early twenties, the differences in intellectual age flatten drastically. The difference between a 12 to 18 year intellectual age is much higher than the difference between 30 and forty. I find it highly unlikely that internet IQ tests accomodate for these differences in change; they probably use a more linear rate for intellectual age. That's one of the main reasons I don't believe them. Plus, anybody can post an internet IQ test nowadays.

[Alive]

For the people that are posting stuff above 135, I would have to think that youre test score was unaccurate (unless youre studying to be an engineer or something even higher in the math, sciences, and problem solving). A 135 is roughly about the top 2 percentile and from posting on the forums, Id say most people arent that smart...not even me.

I have a an offer to study maths at Oxford University :)

[lunchforthesky]

I got a place at Oxford for History but i turned it down.

[The_Passenger]

I have a an offer to study maths at Oxford University :)

So you've already been interviewed and been offered a place? Seems fast is all.

[nowhesingsnowhesobs]

I got a place at Oxford for History but i turned it down.why omg why would you do that?

[Alive]

So you've already been interviewed and been offered a place? Seems fast is all.

Yeah, Oxford tend to be a lot quicker than Cambridge.

Just in case you wish to check:

http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=oxfordrq5fl3.jpg

[The_Passenger]

Oh I'm not doubting you, it just seemed very fast. Well done it that case, I'd love to go Oxford but doubt I have the brains for it :(

[TojesDolan]

As age passes by, more mental lagoons appear. Grrr.

[Aaron]

At work they had an opportunatley to and I got 139. I thought I would've been around 95, I've always considered myself a [I]plodder.

[YDload]

To address the argument about intellectual age -- In the late teens to early twenties, the differences in intellectual age flatten drastically. The difference between a 12 to 18 year intellectual age is much higher than the difference between 30 and forty. I find it highly unlikely that internet IQ tests accomodate for these differences in change; they probably use a more linear rate for intellectual age. That's one of the main reasons I don't believe them. Plus, anybody can post an internet IQ test nowadays.

oh i dont know about that. you think IQ tests cant differentiate between a 2 year old and a 12 year old??

[TojesDolan]

Tests are a bit dumb. You know after all they don't have teh brainz.

Probably there are different ways to grade from one age to another.

[italic zero]

calcium anthropology, ian

[The Stig]

oh i dont know about that. you think IQ tests cant differentiate between a 2 year old and a 12 year old??

No...What I'm saying is that intellectual age doesn't necessarily follow a linear pattern. The mental age between 2 and 12 years is immense, while the same ten year span between 30 and 40 has a much lower difference. A lot of the common IQ tests on the internet probably fail to take into account the fact that differences in intellectual age tends to level off later on, thus making the scores much more inaccurate.

[Aaron]

bell-curve

[OnDesolationRow]

bell-end

LOL

[PerpetualBurn]

Best
Post
Ever.

I believe our good friend, OnDesolationRow, is trying to show how Aaron is pointlessly stating mathematical terminology without providing the necessary context of an intelligent post.

[OnDesolationRow]

Yes... of course... that was very much my intention...

[Aaron]

I am sorry that your low IQ means you cannot fill in the neccesary blanks I left for you :p

[Malice]

Aaron, don't be a smart-arse now!

Get it gaiz?! SMART arse?!

[alaskansnollama]

I love how this thread has absolutely no way of clarifying accuracy in those poll results. Everyone who wanted to seem smart put their IQ as being between 120-140 as to not sound overly fake by making the top pick. The people who could care less about the thread chose >80.

[The Stig]

Well, All of the given choices are in the >80 range. I said I'm not 100% sure of my score, though it is above 80, so that's why I picked it.

[TojesDolan]

Well it isn't.

It's basically for the lolz.

[LittlePound]

I love how this thread has absolutely no way of clarifying accuracy in those poll results. Everyone who wanted to seem smart put their IQ as being between 120-140 as to not sound overly fake by making the top pick. The people who could care less about the thread chose >80.

yes, it's obvious that either a. people are lying becuase only 10-15% or so at most should be within 120-140 range. Atleast i think, i did use a bell curve at one point to figure out the percentage but i forgot what my exact answer was (whatever it was, it was definetely lower than the 52% there now). or b. that only the really smart and really "stupid" people hang out here...there's not middle ground becuase they're out trying to take over the world why the smart and "stupid" are occupied in this thread.

[The Stig]

If you noticed, the inequality sign is backwards from what is intended in the first choice, so it's saying your IQ is greater than 80. If you were really anywhere below 80, you would be close to retarded (cutoff is around 70, I think).

Bright: 115+, or one in six (84th percentile)
Moderately gifted: 130+, or 1 in 50 (97.9th percentile)
Highly gifted: 145+, or 1 in 1000 (99.9th percentile)
Exceptionally gifted: 160+, or 1 in 30,000 (99.997th percentile)
Profoundly gifted: 175+, or 1 in 3 million (99.99997th percentile)

These are taken from Wikipedia as IQ levels for intellectual giftedness. In Cobb County, Georgia (the school systen in which I was enrolled before college), you need to score at or above the 99th percentile to be enrolled in their gifted programs, which I was. Thus, it would be a safe assumption that my IQ is between 135-140 at the very least. Considering, also, that I performed quite well in the program, it is reasonable to say that My IQ could be in the higher 140 range. I never saw the results of the test that let me into the program, but being in there throughout middle and high school, I'm pretty sure I can honestly answer that my IQ is around 140. But I forgot that my only goal is to impress strangers I'll never meet, so let's assume I'm lying and trying to look smarter than I really am.

[Africa]

I wonder if in the future we will enhance our own IQ's. Biotech or something.

[RockAndRoll]

I wonder if in the future people will figure out that the average IQ is fixed at 100.

[BassRevelation]

I love how this thread has absolutely no way of clarifying accuracy in those poll results. Everyone who wanted to seem smart put their IQ as being between 120-140 as to not sound overly fake by making the top pick. The people who could care less about the thread chose >80.

didnt he mean less than 80? like <80?

by the way, a score of 85-90 or less on an IQ indicates mental retardation.

[RockAndRoll]

I never understand why people say x-y or less or a-b or greater, it just doesn't make sense.

[The Stig]

didnt he mean less than 80? like <80?

by the way, a score of 85-90 or less on an IQ indicates mental retardation.

No, a score of less than 70 is retarded. He probably meant <80, but he placed the inequality symbol backwards by mistake.

[TojesDolan]

FOR ****'S SAKES IT'S A GRAMMAR ERROR STOP IT

[The Stig]

I'm not trying to say anything about the threadstarter, but I'm saying the people who are saying that we are trying to look dumb by picking that option don't know what they're talking about.

[RNR]

FOR ****'S SAKES IT'S A GRAMMAR ERROR STOP IT


It actually isn't a grammatical error; just an error.

[conselation]

I don't know my actual IQ, but we did these tests at school and I got the highest in my year. And I'm a year ahead of myself. I don't mind bragging about this because imo, it's not something to brag about. It proves nothing about who you are as a person, I've had no less problems in life than most people (probably more) and I think intelligence is a pretty subjective thing anyway.

[Alive]

It proves nothing about who you are as a person, I've had no less problems in life than most people (probably more) and I think intelligence is a pretty subjective thing anyway.

I don't think that it is subjective, but to seriously talk about this we would have to define intelligence quite strictly.

[conselation]

I don't think that it is subjective, but to seriously talk about this we would have to define intelligence quite strictly.

Okay I take that back I guess you can define intelligence, but I don't think it helps you in the world much, with social or life skills, or makes you a more thoughtful person.

[perriwinkle]

Okay I take that back I guess you can define intelligence, but I don't think it helps you in the world much, with social or life skills, or makes you a more thoughtful person.

i disagree. i think that a more intelligent person more often applies rational thought and logic to everyday life. this helps us makes better decisions, cope more easily with stress, and make us generally more understanding people

i often see correlations in people between intelligence and emotional stability

[Jon]

When I was 12 it was 149.

I'm sure its like 100 now :(

[dei]

So you haven't learned anything new in some years. :(

[conselation]

i disagree. i think that a more intelligent person more often applies rational thought and logic to everyday life. this helps us makes better decisions, cope more easily with stress, and make us generally more understanding people

i often see correlations in people between intelligence and emotional stability

Yes, of course it helps us to solve problems, but it doesn't necessarily make our lives easier to live in terms of people. For example, while I am quite a bit more intelligent than my sister, she's the one who is better at making friends, and seeing what people are like when she meets them, and she's found herself an amazing boyfriend. I on the other hand have had many problems in life, and I don't think being clever has helped me to get over them.

[conselation]

So you haven't learned anything new in some years. :(

I think he's trying to refer to the fact that his brain cells have been destroyed by drugs :rolleyes:
Sorry Jon, if that wasn't the implication.

[Jon]

Well no, I just don't think I've progressed mentally in the past few years as much as I did in my child hood, if that makes sense.

IQ = (metal age / biological age) * 100

When I was 12, say, that would have been 18/12*100 = 150

Now it would be more like 22/18 or something :(

[conselation]

oi...so IQ is relative to your age.

[YDload]

i dont think that's how IQ is measured

[The_Passenger]

That's how it used to be done, but it was scrapped because it only works on children. I'm not quite sure how they do it now, all I remember is that the standard deviation is something like 15 with an average of 100.

[Alive]

i dont think that's how IQ is measured

That is really the basic idea, but obviously (as mentioned above) it doesn't work like that for adults. I don't actually know how they do it though.

Yes, of course it helps us to solve problems, but it doesn't necessarily make our lives easier to live in terms of people. For example, while I am quite a bit more intelligent than my sister, she's the one who is better at making friends, and seeing what people are like when she meets them, and she's found herself an amazing boyfriend. I on the other hand have had many problems in life, and I don't think being clever has helped me to get over them.

So? I know someone who is very, very, very academically talented (last year in final exams I think he lost maybe 10 marks in 5 subjects, each marked out of 300 (ie., 10/1500). But he does not talk to you ever, except maybe about maths or chemistry, and seems reluctant to say even 'hi'.

However, I also have a friend who has a place for medicine at Oxford (regarded as probably the most difficult subject to apply for), but is one of the most popular kids I know, has a girlfriend, has 2 regular jobs, can drink more than anyone else I know and is a county level long distance runner.

There might be some negative correlation between intelligence and social 'abilities' but I suspect you will find that popular people come in all levels of intelligence (with perhaps there being a slightly higher concentration of people with above average intelligence).

[Jon]

That's how it used to be done, but it was scrapped because it only works on children. I'm not quite sure how they do it now, all I remember is that the standard deviation is something like 15 with an average of 100.
Sweet, I ain't lost no clever :D

[conselation]

That is really the basic idea, but obviously (as mentioned above) it doesn't work like that for adults. I don't actually know how they do it though.



So? I know someone who is very, very, very academically talented (last year in final exams I think he lost maybe 10 marks in 5 subjects, each marked out of 300 (ie., 10/1500). But he does not talk to you ever, except maybe about maths or chemistry, and seems reluctant to say even 'hi'.

However, I also have a friend who has a place for medicine at Oxford (regarded as probably the most difficult subject to apply for), but is one of the most popular kids I know, has a girlfriend, has 2 regular jobs, can drink more than anyone else I know and is a county level long distance runner.

There might be some negative correlation between intelligence and social 'abilities' but I suspect you will find that popular people come in all levels of intelligence (with perhaps there being a slightly higher concentration of people with above average intelligence).

Are you a fellow Oxfordian? (cuz of your user title)
But in response to your post, that's the point I was saying - that intelligence bears little relation to social skills.

[The_Passenger]

Are you a fellow Oxfordian? (cuz of your user title)
But in response to your post, that's the point I was saying - that intelligence bears little relation to social skills.

You made it sound like there was a negative correlation between intelligence and social skills.

Btw, if I remember correctly Alive's been offered a place at Oxford so that explains the user title.

[Jon]

god, I wouldn't go to oxbridge if they payed me.

Saying that, I wouldn't even redo A Levels if they paid me.

Stupid academics (ahah what an oxymoron)

[conselation]

You made it sound like there was a negative correlation between intelligence and social skills.

Btw, if I remember correctly Alive's been offered a place at Oxford so that explains the user title.

Ah no, I was only giving my sister and I as an example that intelligence doesn't help you in life.

[The_Passenger]

Ah no, I was only giving my sister and I as an example that intelligence doesn't help you in life.

As you said, this is true in terms of social life, but it doesn't give you any disadvantage either. It's certainly helpful in other aspects of life though, but I think you may have already said this.

[Lydisk]

126
126
132

my results on tests so far.

i dont trust this.

[YDload]

that study is impossible, there's no way they could find Australians with IQs over 80.

[YDload]

oh great more words of wisdom from professor eugenics

[YDload]

the words of wikipedia cause a great pain in my negroid heart

[lunchforthesky]

Asians and European have the highest IQs. Although Europeans have more geniuses than Asians do, Asians have more high average IQ people. Actually Blacks tend to score on average an IQ of 80-85.

There is no European Race or Asian race therefore you cannnot say Europeans are more intelligent than other races. It is about your enviroment not your nature. Please explain how when Greece was powerful it contained many more geniouses than it currently does as a poor conutry. The Greek race havent changed dramatically but the wealth of that conutry has, hence why it no longer houses many geniouses.

[YDload]

Most people debate on whether the IQ gap is actually correlated with genetics, not whether it actually exists. You must be in quite alot of denial to say there isn't one when it is shown right in front of your face.

http://www.indiana.edu/~intell/bellcurve.shtml

Ethnic Differences in Cognitive Ability - East Asians typically earn higher IQ scores than white Americans, especially in the verbal intelligence areas. African-Americans typically earn IQ scores one full standard deviation below those of white American

what am i denying? i'm just a sassy black woman trying to prove that she is better than the sum of her brothas and sistas :(

[YDload]

i go to The Racial Gap for all this year's hottest ethnic fashions. check out my kimono its totally bitchin

[lunchforthesky]

I am not saying all Blacks score that low, but I though you denied there exists a racial gap in avergae IQs.

I accept there is a gap but not that whites naturally have higher IQ than blacks. If both placed in the exact same circumstances i do not think there would be a difference.

[YDload]

youre a mongoloid

[YDload]

no i mean you have downs syndrome

[lunchforthesky]

How is there no European or Asian race? There are three major races or sub-species of Humans. - Caucasoid, Negroid, and Mongoloid. Just like there are many different breeds or sub-species of dogs. Humans created these different breeds of dog which contain many specific characteristics. How can you say a German Shepherd is the same as a Poodle? Obviously the German Shepherd will be much more intelligent.

We as humans share 99% of our genes together, but that is just enough for each of us to have differences categorized under sub-species or race. After all, humans share 98.5% genes with chimpanzees.

If it was about our environment and not nature, why do identical twins seperated at birth, raised in totally different areas with totally different parents, contain the same IQ (more or less the same).

They even correlate more to each other than fraternal twins, who are born and raised in the same environment.

The studies that I am talking about here were completed by Dr. Thomas Bouchard Jr. at the University of Minnesota.


Man youve got it all wrong. We are all the same species of humans in that we are homosapiens as opposed to Neanderthols.

But we have different colour skin based on where we inhabit the earth. Other aesthetic differences are down to chance of breeding through the evolutionary method.

[Alive]

I am not saying all Blacks score that low, but I though you denied there exists a racial gap in avergae IQs.

Ok, but methinks a fair IQ test would score all races the same average.

[Alive]

How is the IQ test not fair? It is very accurate in measuring ability to think.

To think about what exactly?

And when you say the IQ test, to which one exactly do you refer, and where is your research supporting its validity?

[Clunge]

I did about five different tests a month or so ago and they all said between 128 and 141.

[Knifeboy]

How is the IQ test not fair? It is very accurate in measuring ability to think.

Most IQ tests are not culture fair at all. Meaning, if you get a danish IQ test, some of the questions will relate to danish culture, meaning every non-dane would be at a disadvantage.
The only part of an IQ test that can be completely culture fair, is the one that tests your mathematical reasoning skills

[nowhesingsnowhesobs]

no i don't think that's the case at all. We can be pretty sure black peoples do not score badly on IQ tests because they are not culture-fair.

[Alive]

Hispanics perform on average better than Blacks in IQ. Hispanics in the US are much more unaware of American culture than Blacks and are poorer than Blacks on average. Since Hispanics in the US are much of the immigrants and new comers to this country, they should be the ones to score lower due to culture-bias. To the contrary they score higher.

There have been tests made by psychologists to suit Blacks and give them better scores, but Whites would still do better on these tests on average.

American Indians are also supposed to be more culturaly unaware than African-Americans, but they achieved higher than Blacks. Nonverbal reasoning tests given to American Indian children before the 1st grade, proved that these American Indian children achieved 14 points higher than Black children before 1st grade.

Arthur Jensen - Straight Talk About Mental tests And Bias In Mental testing. page 470

There have been reaction-times tests which conclude Whites and Asians do better on than Blacks. These tests would involve you to react to a series of lights, depending on which one lit up first. There is no culture involved there obviously, and these tests have a high correlation to IQ.

Arthur Jensen, Whang - Reaction Times and Intelligence. Journal of Biosocial Science Vol.25. page 97-410

Unless you do the IQ test at birth, then your results are worthless.

And even then the results could be skewed by factors such as nutrition and such.

For example, if you've read the book Freakonomics, you'll know that black children have worse results than white children overall. But in poor areas, white children and black children score the same, and if you take wealth levels into account, both races score pretty much the same.

[nowhesingsnowhesobs]

Hispanics perform on average better than Blacks in IQ. Hispanics in the US are much more unaware of American culture than Blacks and are poorer than Blacks on average.
no. the median black household income is lower than the median hispanic household income and the poverty rate is higher for blacks than for hispanics.

[lunchforthesky]

Like I said, humans share 98.5% with chimpanzees, yet the 1.5% difference is enough to seperate us as species. Humans share 99% of their genes with each other, so that is enough for us to have diffrences such as race. That small percent of genes we don't share with chimpanzees gave them obvious different traits including smaller brains.

How can you ignore the many species of dog and all the differences they possess, and deny the existance of race? Just because dogs are all canines there are no sub-species, or breed dogs? It took around 5,000 years for humans to breed all the sub-species of dogs, and look how many different ones we have.


I dont ignore it, there have only ever been two species of humans, neanderthols and homosapiens and we killed off the neanderthols. There have only been two speices of humans but there are many many many species of dog, its just how it is. There are only two species of elephant too. We are a different race to black people but all that affects is appearance, eseentially we are the same species. It is the difference between a black sheep and a white sheep not the difference between a bulldog and a poodle

[CrossTheBreeze]

No... my school average doubled. Meaning even though I had a high IQ score I was bad at school, then I suddenly became hard working and my grades doubled. This may seem obvious for many of you, but intelligence is more than a letter grade.

[RockAndRoll]

^ The thing that still confuses me about that is to double your grades woudln't they have to be below 50 in the first place, meaning you'd fail and not make it to grade 11?

[italic zero]

maybe he meant GPA

[RockAndRoll]

Maybe, I don't know, I'm not sure about how things work in other education systems. But in mine it doesn't make sense, so I was confused.

[Auberge le Mouton Noir]

Ok, but methinks a fair IQ test would score all races the same average.

not if that would distort results and make a black man with a 130 less intelligent than a white man with 130. The type of tests done for IQ should be logic, reasoning and memory based, and a good IQ test wouldn't have anything culture specific therein.

[CrossTheBreeze]

I noticed that some people said they scored under 80, but wouldn't that mean that basically they are mentally retarded.

.... Unless if they were joking.

[RockAndRoll]

They said they scored over 80, not under.

[CrossTheBreeze]

oh, my mistake.

[RockAndRoll]

Well yea, less than eighty would be the logical option, but the poll actually says more than.

[greyghost]

How is the IQ test not fair? It is very accurate in measuring ability to think.

IQ tests have a strong gender bias for a start.

however arguing about their fairness is pointless as they prove nothing anyway, all an IQ test shows is how good you are at IQ tests, practice them, do say 3 a day for a week. you will find your IQ has rocketed, yet you are no more inteligent.

showing, in my opnion that IQ tests dont really tell us anything useful

[Reaganista]

it's really high but IQ tests aren't really a good indicator of anything besides IQ test taking ability

[Volumnius Flush]

Indubitably, mine is in the highest category, 140+.