Morissey.....Racist?

[Ganondorf]

http://motorcycleaupairboy.com/interviews/1992/caucasian.htm


Was reading this and simialr artciles...any thoughts, what do you guys think? If it's true, my opinion of him has been lowered so much.

[pixiesfanyo]

Morrissey.....Hinder fan?

[The Stig]

Yeah...I'm getting sick of knee-jerk reactions of everything starting to pertain to race. I don't know a ton about Morrissey, but from that article, the 'evidence' is dubious at best.

[Ganondorf]

"Even while denouncing racial prejudice in stirring fashion, he was wont to admit that he disliked Pakistanis. 'I don't hate Pakistanis, but I dislike them immensely' was his flippantly blunt adolescent observation (1977)." (Johnny Rogan, The Severed Alliance)

What Morrissey said

From Wikipedia: "Bengali, Bengali / Oh, shelve your Western plans / And understand / That life is hard enough when you belong here - Bengali In Platforms by Morrissey

In a 1988 interview with Shaun Phillips for Sounds Magazine, Morrissey justified the lyrics by saying: "If you went to live in Yugoslavia tomorrow, you would find you didn't really belong there."

[Little Man being Erased]

"When I see reports on the television about football hooliganism in Sweden or Denmark or somewhere, I'm actually amused. Is that a horrible thing to say?"
That amuses me too.

[Dave de Sylvia]

I couldn't bear to read the article, because it's far too boring, but I do think he rather gets off on ambiguous statements of that sort. If people want to believe Morrissey is a racist, he's probably the type of person who'll let them rather than fall over himself to prove them wrong.

[Dave de Sylvia]

:h5:

[Electronic Wolf]

Dumb thread.

[Electronic Wolf]

I know this has been discussed somewhere else and someone gave an explanation for whatever songs, and I think it was said that he was trying to reclaim the flag from the far-right. I don't remember where it said all of this, though.

[apple pie]

everybody is racisit, it is just when a white middle aged male celbertiy says it, OMG it is the end of the world, if like Paris Hilton called like Lionie Richie a ****** no-one would care.

[Electronic Wolf]

Hey, guy, you're an idiot. If Paris Hilton used a racial slur against someone, even more people would be on her.

[Jacaranda]

Moz a 'racist' because of the sentiments 'Burn down the disco... Hang the DJ" expressed therein, seeing the song as an all-out attack on dance music and therefore black people.
i'm not sure i get this but as far as I know alot of dance music in the 80s was made by white kids so....

wacky brits.

Morrissey proclaiming that "reggae is vile" in his usual flamboyant way in interviews didn't help. Hating reggae doesn't make you racist; it just means you're unwilling to experiment and decidedly close-minded.
John lennon is unwilling to experiment and decidedly close-minded also as he hated jazz.

"I detest Stevie Wonder." (Morrissey, September 1986)

"I think Diana Ross is awful." (Morrissey, September 1986)
thats just racist.

[Electronic Wolf]

I hate sushi. Does that mean I hate the Japanese?

[Amit]

yes

also i'm bengali so i am flattered thanks morissey

[Dave de Sylvia]

John lennon is unwilling to experiment and decidedly close-minded also as he hated jazz.
And he's dead.

[Amit]

that's what happens when you hate jazz <:mad:>

[Dave de Sylvia]

I bet he's underground right now becoming oil or whatever and listening exclusively to Yoko ****ing Ono records. What a discriminating asshole.

[Amit]

yoko ****ing ono

****

[Jacaranda]

wait no i have evidence he is racist.

he says et cetera like:
ex cetera
****ing mother****ing morrissey shitting all over the ****ing minoritys and the latin laungage

[The Stig]

Now, I'm not British, and I'll admit I only gave the article a cursory look-through, so could someone explain what holding the British flag has to do with being racist? I'm unfamiliar with the area's politics, so if one of you guys could tell me that, I'd appreciate it.

[Sepstrup]

This article is really terrible.

[EightMilesHigh]

I couldn't bear to read the article, because it's far too boring, but I do think he rather gets off on ambiguous statements of that sort. If people want to believe Morrissey is a racist, he's probably the type of person who'll let them rather than fall over himself to prove them wrong.

bah, basically exactly what i was planning on saying.

[Ganondorf]

hmm, I actualyl read hte article and it is blatantly biased, the only thing that annoys me slightly is the comment about the Bengali in Platforms.

[Matt?]

Ask me why and i'll spit in your eye nigga

[morrissey]

he's also gay

[class]

I was wondering how long it'd be before you posted in this thread...

[Untitled]

Now, I'm not British, and I'll admit I only gave the article a cursory look-through, so could someone explain what holding the British flag has to do with being racist? I'm unfamiliar with the area's politics, so if one of you guys could tell me that, I'd appreciate it.

I dont fully understand it either, its stupid.

I mean during the football world cups, and the euro cups theres always debates going on about whether we should be allowed to fly the flag on our cars, or from our homes, because it might stir up racial tensions or something.

Its a load of bollocks in my opinion.

[Dave de Sylvia]

All non-Arsenal flags i.e. national flags are banned from the Emirates Stadium now, in case anyone should show support for a country someone else doesn't like

[FA]

flags...all's they do's is cause trouble

[Dave de Sylvia]

I blame the UN and gays.

[Jacaranda]

morrissey would blame blacks i bet

[Rabbi]

If the music's good, then who gives a **** if he's racist.

He's an artist, not a politician. His job isn't to please everyone.

[morrissey]

I completely agree 100% but if he's gay I'm not listening to that **** it's kind of vile like more vile than reggae

[Rabbi]

Reggae's not that bad.

[Robert Crumb]

Steven Morrissey is a rockist.

[morrissey]

Reggae's not that bad.

you're right reggae is not as vile as listening to gay artists is

[Dave de Sylvia]

Gay artists? There's no such thing.

[Rabbi]

psshhh.

Then who designs all those clothes? Woman and gay men, thats who.

[Robert Crumb]

The Morrissey wikipedia page is the best thing ever.

Originally Posted by Wikipedia.org
Pete Wentz of Fall Out Boy wrote a book based on his nightmares as a child, titled The Boy With the Thorn In His Side after The Smiths' song. Also, in the background of his nude pictures, there are clearly visible Morrissey albums.

[Robert Crumb]

These are the kind of facts regular dictionaries need to sex things up.

[morrissey]

It sucks that famous Smiths fans are always so lame.

http://www.morrissey-solo.com/news/2004/images/durst_tn.jpg

[Robert Crumb]

To be fair, Fred was only wearing that shirt to impress Paris Hilton. She totally digs Vauxhall and I.

[Electronic Wolf]

It sucks that famous Smiths fans are always so lame.

http://www.morrissey-solo.com/news/2004/images/durst_tn.jpg

He probably doesn't even listen to the Smiths, like people who wear those Ramones t-shirts from Hot Topic don't listen to the Ramones.

[morrissey]

To be fair, Fred was only wearing that shirt to impress Paris Hilton. She totally digs Vauxhall and I.
meat is murder drove her to vegetarianism.

[Electronic Wolf]

Morrissey, what happened to you? I missed having you around.

[morrissey]

I basically hang around on Sputnik not posting. Remember when I modded this place for like 3 weeks those were the days.

Tony it's Zooey Deschanel she's legendary

[Robert Crumb]

I've never seen Zooey Deschanel in a good movie. I'm told they exist. But I'd still pay to see her star in bad movies.

[morrissey]

I actually don't think I've seen any of her movies besides Elf which just screams indie cred

but watch this starting like 10 minutes in:
http://www.dailymotion.com/swf/44etdAv5F5WU33IdY

[Jacaranda]

oh man she has a great voice the harmonizing during the shower scene in elf is just a waterfall of pleasure.

[Electronic Wolf]

I basically hang around on Sputnik not posting.

Why? I enjoy your posts.

[Dave de Sylvia]

Could Pete Wentz get any more perfect?