Lexicon Devil

[whiteminority]

Love 'em or hate 'em, you can't deny The Germs are an important punk rock band. This is for discussion.

[Flagjacket]

I don't get how they're important, and they're also really bad.

Their entire stage act was the equivalent of Blink 182 running around naked.

[AIRIC]

I don't really like them. Darby Crash is a dumbass and overall I think they're pretty generic and boring.

[World Burns To Death]

I don't get how they're important, and they're also really bad.

Their entire stage act was the equivalent of Blink 182 running around naked.
i lol'd

[DaveToopes]

I never got into them. I always thought they were pretty generic but to each their own!

[AIRIC]

Except Blink 182 running around naked is slightly arousing where the Germs running around naked is very repulsive.

[Excursions]

[Excursions] the germs are ok
[Excursions] a couple of ok songs
[Excursions] but they suck compared to like every other la punk band from the late 70s early 80s
[Flagjacket] I'M A LEXICON DEVIL WITH A BATTERED BRAIN
[Excursions] on decline of the western civ they suck so bad

[SantaDuJuan]

They're okay.
I have a t-shirt with them.

[Milo in college]

I like them a lot. I bought MIA and can't stop listening to it. I'm the only one who likes them so far. *hides face in shame*

[Flagjacket]

I used to like them, but that was way back when I was a punk rock elitist and only liked bands based on their punk rox.

[DaveToopes]

I like them a lot. I bought MIA and can't stop listening to it. I'm the only one who likes them so far. *hides face in shame*

It's okay Milo we aren't elitists here.

'Cept for Kevin.

[Flagjacket]

No I'm not! :(

[Brain Toad]

I fail to see the importance of this shitty band.

[Nerdcore753]

I like their recordings for the most part, but it seems they were terrible live after watching Decline of Western Civilization and other live footage.

[lynch_me]

I don't really like them. Darby Crash is a dumbass and overall I think they're pretty generic and boring.

The things he did was stupid, but I heard he was actually quite intelligent and loved to read.

The Germs weren't important, I think they're just more known for Darby and his death.

[AIRIC]

That is quite possible.

[Milo in college]

I think they were failry influential to everything happening in LA at the time. I think bands like X owe a lot to them.

[holy_roller99]

i only have a few Germs songs but what i have heard has been awesome. after i pay rent and sh't i will pick up a few albums. some of my CD's werwe stolen. my DK Fresh fruit for Rotting vegetables and my Dropkick Murphy's CD. need to replace and update my collection.

[Brain Toad]

I think they were failry influential to everything happening in LA at the time. I think bands like X owe a lot to them.

Hahaha you're hilarious.

[lynch_me]

Friends, atleast......

Exene Cervenka's band, X, shared a record label, Slash,
with the Germs:

I have a Germs Burn. At first I thought Darby was really
mean. He was very punk rock, and I was very small town. At
the same time, he had the super- vulnerability of someone
who's been wounded. The James Dean thing. Someone much too
beautiful or much too scary or much too talented.

[pedro durruti]

Darby Crash was a stupid junkie

[DaveToopes]

Yeah why the hell do punX glorify people who overdosed?

[Flagjacket]

Becauuuuse man! Dying the way that society wants you to, in a bed, is exactly what's wrong with people today! Punk stands up against this type of conformist bollocks!

[username77]

Yeah why the hell do punX glorify people who overdosed?

I don't think it was that he overdosed, but maybe I'm wrong. PunX are crazy.

I like the Germs. I'm not really ashamed of it. I think Darby would've been a really rad dude to talk to, one on one. He supposedly had an i.q. of like, 180. Something rediculous. I think the stuff he wrote was pretty cool, lyrically. Live, yeah, if it was like how it is in Decline, they blew live. But on the record I think they're really really good.

X and Fear are both better, though. Although they don't really have the same aura.

Ona side note "The Government Stole My Germs CD" by the Orphans is an amazing song. The Orphans were Erik Petersen's (Msscheif Brew) band before doing his folk punk thing.

[Neoteric]

They have a kind of love/hate relationship with me. They are good for a few songs then I just get annoyed.

[AIRIC]

I don't think it was that he overdosed, but maybe I'm wrong. PunX are crazy.

I like the Germs. I'm not really ashamed of it. I think Darby would've been a really rad dude to talk to, one on one. He supposedly had an i.q. of like, 180. Something rediculous. I think the stuff he wrote was pretty cool, lyrically. Live, yeah, if it was like how it is in Decline, they blew live. But on the record I think they're really really good.

X and Fear are both better, though. Although they don't really have the same aura.

Ona side note "The Government Stole My Germs CD" by the Orphans is an amazing song. The Orphans were Erik Petersen's (Msscheif Brew) band before doing his folk punk thing.

Yeah dude the Orphans are sweet. I love that record.

[Flagjacket]

I don't think it was that he overdosed, but maybe I'm wrong. PunX are crazy.

I like the Germs. I'm not really ashamed of it. I think Darby would've been a really rad dude to talk to, one on one. He supposedly had an i.q. of like, 180. Something rediculous. I think the stuff he wrote was pretty cool, lyrically. Live, yeah, if it was like how it is in Decline, they blew live. But on the record I think they're really really good.


He overdosed on heroin in like 1980 or something.

And I feel that Germs lyrics kidna have the Kurt Cobain clause applied to them all the time. "These words mean almost nothing looking at it, that MUST mean they have a highly cerebral meaning!"

[Joe Cooper]

Wow, there are a lot of Germs haters here. I'm not in the business of glorifying Darby Crash, but come on. "Lexicon Devil" is one of the greatest punk songs of all time.

I always thought a lot of people who hate the Germs have the Sex Pistols syndrome. That is to say there's a whole group of people out there who hate a lot of what the Sex Pistols contributed to the world (spitting in the crowd, half-assed anarchy ideals, the Casualties, etc) so much that they overlook that Nevermind the Bollocks is a damn good album. I think a lot of this carries over to the Germs.

[DaveToopes]

I like the Sex Pistols and hate The Germs.

[lynch_me]

Good, then stop posting in here.

[Neoteric]

I like the Sex Pistols and hate The Germs.The exact opposite for me.

[DaveToopes]

Good, then stop posting in here.

Hey, my post was more relevant than yours! We were having a discussion!

[Aus Rotten]

The Germs suck hard. Not the cute 'they suck because they're supposed to suck,' they're just plain terrible.

[Bukowski]

MIA is pretty good, ignoring a few bad songs.

[whiteminority]

I think they sound great, I have seen clips of their performances on the Decline... (because a copy of the VHS goes for like $70 on Amazon and waaaaaaaaaaaay more on eBay) and they look fun granted ****ing inept as hell.

[World Burns To Death]

neg rep for everyone.

[Excursions]

I think they sound great, I have seen clips of their performances on the Decline... (because a copy of the VHS goes for like $70 on Amazon and waaaaaaaaaaaay more on eBay) and they look fun granted ****ing inept as hell.

Nope, they are just horrible. There is nothing good about them on Decline of the Western Civ, they just suck. They also talk about taking photos of themselves with a dead "wetback".

[World Burns To Death]

I've seen the decline of western civilization all the way through on VHS, and the germs are the worst/most entertaining part. darby is so dumb.

[pedro durruti]

Seriously, all he does is get so high he slurs "I'm a panther" over and over again.

[username77]

He overdosed on heroin in like 1980 or something.
No, I know that, I was trying to say that I don't know if that's why he's held in such high stature.

Yeah dude the Orphans are sweet. I love that record.

Yeah, man. I've been trying to find it, but I don't have Soulseek. If I gave you my AIM address, could you send it to me?

[Flagjacket]

No, I know that, I was trying to say that I don't know if that's why he's held in such high stature.

It isn't, it's because he did crazy things like cut himself onstage and try to cover people with peanut butter.

[_Mote_]

Hate Darby, love the Germs. Pat Smear is a great guitarist, but he didn't show it in the Germs really, but he was pretty solid with the Foo Fighters and when he played live with Nirvana.

[username77]

It isn't, it's because he did crazy things like cut himself onstage and try to cover people with peanut butter.

Unfortunatly, you're probably right.

[whiteminority]

GI is a ****ing classic LA punk record.

[Brain Toad]

GI is a ****ing poor excuse for a LA punk record.

Fixed

[lynch_me]

grand opening

[Tajue17]

tttttttttt

[whiteminority]

Fixed
How can you not consider that album classic of that whole scene? It has the feeling, the anger, and very importantly the ****ing attitude. The album is amazing and one of the high points of a great scene.

[Excursions]

It was an average album. This is fact.

Better and more important LA albums:

Middle Class - Out of Vogue
Minutemen - Paranoid Time
Wasted Youth - Reagan In
X - Los Angeles
Circle Jerks - Group Sex
Black Flag - Nervous Breakdown, Jealous Again
Channel 3 - Fear of Life
Fear - The Record

And those are just the ones that were really important, their was lots of other better stuff like Artistic Decline and MIA etc.

[whiteminority]

Middle Class may have been more important because of its significance as being "the first" hardcore single ever, but its not that good. I would say, though great, the same things for Fear and Wasted Youth.