DragonForce!

[the_pure_drummer]

How do you guys find them?

[the2stranger]

I enjoy them, very good life show.
You might want to edit the title though, it's written Dragonforce.

[Bazarov]

this band is kraft cheesy.

[Shadows Within]

atleast there not rhapsody

[Huber]

Despite the "omg there sloppy they suk" craze, I think they're still a good band and I enjoy them a lot.

[Stormrider]

I enjoy them every now and then. they're live show was really good.

[Kickflip_Burrito]

I have yet to seen them live, but they sound cool. I have Inhuman Rampage, good album.

Herman Li is amazing.

Note : 3000th post.

[jaklyons]

DragonForce are a brilliant band, despite what some people say. I am a big fan.

One of the things I like most about them is the fact that their music takes incredible talent and skill. And it has lots of energy, great solos, great vocals, and Herman Li. What more could you want?! :P

[Magicaltroll]

DragonForce are a brilliant band, despite what some people say. I am a big fan.

One of the things I like most about them is the fact that their music takes incredible talent and skill. And it has lots of energy, great solos, great vocals, and Herman Li. What more could you want?! :P

The energy seems fake, or just lame to me, and the solos are good, but I'm not into listening to solos that are there just to show off. And the vocals are annoying.


Good musicians though, just not my thing I guess.

[Eliminator]

Could Dragonforce get any DRAGGIN' WORSE.

[Benzum]

Hail Dragonfarce!

I'm seeing them in a couple of weeks so that should be hilarious

[Cocaine]

Valley of the Damned was great, but they've been going downhill since Herman and Sam realized they could get away with sweep-picking and finger-tapping for 9 minutes straight.

[Steerpike]

They put on a fantastic show live. It's music that really makes you want to jump up and down and break things.

Herman Li has a cool assortment of little tricks with his guitar (playing scratches with the trem bar for instance), but Sam Totman has the more soulful style.

[bebubly]

dragonforce basically suck. yes, they have skill, but they don't put it to good use. plus their songs are incredibly similar to each other. i know that they are meant to be cheesy, but this is just so off putting. i've seen them live, and i enjoyed the first half of the show as much as i could considering i don't like their music (but they are quite good for a live band) but then it got so repetitive that i just wanted it to be over. i met them and they were nice guys, but as a band i just don't like them.

[EightMilesHigh]

They're pretty cool in small doses. Through The Fire and The Flames is an awesome awesome song but I probably couldn't take a full album of theirs.

[Benzum]

They put on a fantastic show live. It's music that really makes you want to jump up and down and break things.

Herman Li has a cool assortment of little tricks with his guitar (playing scratches with the trem bar for instance), but Sam Totman has the more soulful style.

Good to hear. I'm thinking of taking a plastic sword and shield for drunken fun. Is that considered normal Dragonforce gig behavior?

I don't want to look like a weirdo!

[Magicaltroll]

dragonforce basically suck. yes, they have skill, but they don't put it to good use. plus their songs are incredibly similar to each other. i know that they are meant to be cheesy, but this is just so off putting. i've seen them live, and i enjoyed the first half of the show as much as i could considering i don't like their music (but they are quite good for a live band) but then it got so repetitive that i just wanted it to be over. i met them and they were nice guys, but as a band i just don't like them.

Yeah...

They're just boring in my opinion.
Skill is cool, but there's other aspects of music other than insane instrumentation.

[Steerpike]

I saw them at Ozzfest so I couldn't say.

However, you may start a new trend.

[Benzum]

dragonforce basically suck.

Moron.

[Eliminator]

No, it's true.

I only find them enjoyable when I feel like doing karate kicks.

[Benzum]

Nah they don't "suck", wouldn't put it that way at all

I have the right to feel angered I'll have you know, now step aside

[Josh]

i thought they weren't really that good when i saw them, Edguy stole the show, they were way tighter. although the 'force still pwnd most other bands :)

plus, i met Sam in the street in town that day, when he was looking for an off-license.

[bebubly]

i was asked how i find them. i find that they suck.

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

I really like them regardless of other peoples opinions. They do suck at playing their own stuff live (and in the "studio" videos) but the album stuff is brilliant, very original lead stuff. They need to sort out how they hold their picks though.

[Josh]

Good to hear. I'm thinking of taking a plastic sword and shield for drunken fun. Is that considered normal Dragonforce gig behavior?

I don't want to look like a weirdo!

yep, it's pretty well normal at their gigs. look at the front when people have left to see a massive assortment of broken plastic weaponry :p

the band tend to nick stuff from fans at the front as well, and play their instruments with them.

i think it was Steerpike who mentioned Sam's more soulful playing style, i like how his playing is much more bluesy, rather than shredding too much, i definitely prefer his solos.

[Shattered_Future]

I can't comment on how they are live, but their album work is cool in small doses. A song or two at a time usually does the trick. Any more and it sounds samey.

[Benzum]

Listeing back to Inhuman Rampage after many months makes me like it just as much as I used to back in the day, it does have some real memorable melodic lead moments, and yes that includes vocal melodies too! :eek:

Well I can't take real swords, so I'll have to compromise.
The band won't be nicking anything off me, I won't let them :p

[GenuineImitation]

When I saw them, thye put on a great show. I noticed a few mistakes, but they are human after all. Plus they are pretty energetic on stage. Im sure if they just sttod around like statues, they would be much more accurate. I love Dragonforce, but only in small quantities. Too much gets on my nerves really fast.

[Steerpike]

DragonForce seem to have the same ethic as Children of Bodom: When you're playing on stage, who gives a damn if you make a few mistakes so long as the audience is totally ****ing juiced?

And I have to agree with them. Why should I pay $50+ for a show and not get a show.

[GenuineImitation]

DragonForce seem to have the same ethic as Children of Bodom: When you're playing on stage, who gives a damn if you make a few mistakes so long as the audience is totally ****ing juiced?



Thats a great ethic for a band to have. Sure, I love some bands that dont move around at all (Dream Theater), however, Dragonforce put on a great live show. If they werent so energetic, it would not have been half as good. I think everyone should see them if they get the chance. It is quite the experience.

[Josh]

any band that has a lot of energy and stage presence can get away with making mistakes - i read an old diary entry of Nicko McBrain's from the 2003 maiden tour, and apparently at the gig where i saw them, they all made some mistakes, but there was so much energy in their performance that none of the audience noticed.

[jaklyons]

Good to hear. I'm thinking of taking a plastic sword and shield for drunken fun. Is that considered normal Dragonforce gig behavior?

I don't want to look like a weirdo!

Brilliant idea :P

[Turkish]

Hah, I enjoy them.

[Cocaine]

When I saw Dragonforce, someone had made a full-sized paper mache (**** spelling) Warhammer. Another person was FULLY decked out in chain-mail.

[Stormrider]

Listeing back to Inhuman Rampage after many months makes me like it just as much as I used to back in the day, it does have some real memorable melodic lead moments, and yes that includes vocal melodies too! :eek:

Say what you want guys, but there are times when I really enjoy ZP's vocals.

Life is a misery, DON'T KNOWWW how it's come to be

When I saw them, it cost 14$..

[Quiksilver26]

When I saw Dragonforce, someone had made a full-sized paper mache (**** spelling) Warhammer. Another person was FULLY decked out in chain-mail.

If this was their first show in Toronto at the Opera house, then I was there also. The chain mail dude was ridiculous, I don't know how he could stand the heat under all that ****. I was dying just in a T-shirt haha.

I also realized last week that I haven't listened to the force in a while, so i put on Sonic Firestorm. I absolutely love that album. Above the Winter Moonlight, My Spirit Will Go On, Fury of the Storm, Fields of Despair.. actually **** it, the entire album ftw :).

edit: Say what you want guys, but there are times when I really enjoy ZP's vocals. I know what you mean. One of the reasons I started listening to them basically, was because of the vocals in VotD. The part where he sings "oo-over pastures green it glows, To wheeere night retuuurrns."

[Cocaine]

Yeah, that was the show Quik.

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

Say what you want guys, but there are times when I really enjoy ZP's vocals.

Life is a misery, DON'T KNOWWW how it's come to be

When I saw them, it cost 14$..

ZP is my favourite member of DF, I love his vocals.

[JamJar]

When I saw the Force live, I was seriously amazed at how well ZP sang.

[Steerpike]

His writing may be a little formulaic (how many times can you talk about geographic features like valleys in one album?), but he more than makes up for it with his raw energy.

[El_Goodo]

I enjoy them, very good life show.
You might want to edit the title though, it's written Dragonforce.

You might want to edit your post it's written "good live show" :thumb:

But on topic...has this band ever written a ballad...or a slow song? I cannot form an opinion based on their fast for the sake of being fast, nintendo-metal wankfest songs that I have heard from them.

[GenuineImitation]

You might want to edit your post it's written "good live show" :thumb:

But on topic...has this band ever written a ballad...or a slow song? I cannot form an opinion based on their fast for the sake of being fast, nintendo-metal wankfest songs that I have heard from them.



Dawn Over A New World, off of Sonic Firestorm, is a ballad.

[Happy]

When I saw them live all I could hear was the drums :(

[GenuineImitation]

When I saw them live all I could hear was the drums :(

That stinks. Normally they sound really good live, so maybe it was the venue.

[Happy]

Yeah it was for the metal hammer awards, they didn't have too much time for set up but I'm told they had a crap sound at download too.

[halfdeadhippo]

I remember listening to them like a year or so ago and thinking that they were kind of lame. Now, I'm mildly annoyed because I keep hearing about them, and I still think that they're kind of lame.

[GenuineImitation]

I hate it when people think Dragonforce only have 1 cd and claim to be big fans of the band. I guess that goes for any band also.

[Quiksilver26]

There are a lot of those kind of people around where I live unfortunately, claiming to be "so metal"... and they only know TTFaTF. Thankfully these people don't seem to attend the actual shows, so all is well :).

[Atica]

Dragonforce is a great band. Yeh, it is true that they may sound kind of repetitive, but still I enjoy listening to them. Herman Li is a very fast guitar player, and has a good imagination for the tapping stuff. Sam Totman is also an amazing guitar player, also very fast. I love the kind of solo fights they both create in their songs.

[Cocaine]

You might want to edit your post it's written "good live show" :thumb:

But on topic...has this band ever written a ballad...or a slow song? I cannot form an opinion based on their fast for the sake of being fast, nintendo-metal wankfest songs that I have heard from them.

Each album has a ballad.

Listen to Valley Of The Damned; there's no "Nintendo" Metal on that, and it's not fast for the sake of being fast.

[Stormrider]

Dragonforce is definitely NOT the band I turn towards to for some good ballads.

I'll put the IMO in here, before anyone jumps on me.

[InFlames345]

I have their latest cd. They're good from time to time. Missed them live, I hear they put on a show.

[Atica]

I don't take them as a first choice when I want to listen things like ballads.

[Huber]

I think Starfire is a great song, and there best slow song.

[Zakath]

Ok, I need a short list (maybe 5-6) of Dragonforce songs that have the best guitar parts/solos/whatever. I'm making a CD for a friend who plays guitar but I don't really know which songs are best..

[-The Frank]

Fury of the storm!

[Kurrpt]

Body Breakdown
Cry for Eternity
Storming Through the Burning Fields
Operation Ground and Pound
Through the Fire and the Flames

[Benzum]

Say what you want guys, but there are times when I really enjoy ZP's vocals.

Life is a misery, DON'T KNOWWW how it's come to be

When I saw them, it cost 14$..

Death is the destiny for AAAALLLL of our WAAAAAYYYS!

Right on.

[shadow_stalker]

Body Breakdown
Cry for Eternity
Storming Through the Burning Fields
Operation Ground and Pound

Through the Fire and the Flames

you just have inhuman rampage dont you? :p


im seeing them live on the 9th of december cant wait, shame i have to sit (well stand really) through all that remains before dragonforce play

[GenuineImitation]

you just have inhuman rampage dont you? :p


im seeing them live on the 9th of december cant wait, shame i have to sit (well stand really) through all that remains before dragonforce play



All that Remains puts on a pretty good show. I hated them before I saw them live, but now I think they are a decent band.

[metalhead_matt]

Well, I hated Dragonforce. But then I realised everytime I burned them, it was because I was trying to convince myself they weren't actually as good as everyone said they were, I kept inventing reasons to like them. But that was sort of like a sub concious. They're an excellent band, and SUPERBLY produced.

[shadow_stalker]

All that Remains puts on a pretty good show. I hated them before I saw them live, but now I think they are a decent band.

meh they may be good, but i kind of have the feeling im gonna get the **** kicked out of me in the mosh pit :eek:

[El_Goodo]

There ballads make them sound like Bon Jovi with some more cheese on top.

[Benzum]

All That Remains are much better than Dragonforce, even though they are 2 completely different bands. I've seen ATR live before, they were top-notch, this time round should be even better, due to the new songs

[beso negro]

This sums up "Inhuman Rampage" nicely:

FlaMes FlaMes FlaMes!! bAttle, PAIN PAIN!! PaIn for FreEDom. PAIN PAIN!!! blackest dreams in hell are teh PAIN PAIN PAIN!! blackest waves make us FIGHT ON FOR teh STEEL STEEL STEEL!!! FLY i say FLY blackest ashes. FREEDOM from teh PAIN! PAIN!! omg no GAIN!! \m/

[donteatpieontuesday]

This is a really good band full of amazing musicians, the way they construct there songs is really well done imo, and it is good that on inhuman rampage vadim was able to let his creativity out a bit more. The only downside with this band is the repetetivness through the versus when they just play with speed. I like the vocals and I think that they are really good power metal vocals but thats just me

[metalhead_matt]

This sums up "Inhuman Rampage" nicely:

FlaMes FlaMes FlaMes!! bAttle, PAIN PAIN!! PaIn for FreEDom. PAIN PAIN!!! blackest dreams in hell are teh PAIN PAIN PAIN!! blackest waves make us FIGHT ON FOR teh STEEL STEEL STEEL!!! FLY i say FLY blackest ashes. FREEDOM from teh PAIN! PAIN!! omg no GAIN!! \m/

lol. aside from my earlier comment, dragonforce are like 80's songs re-released as metal songs, very much like the way they re-released looooaaadds of 80's songs as dance songs

[GenuineImitation]

meh they may be good, but i kind of have the feeling im gonna get the **** kicked out of me in the mosh pit :eek:

No one is making you go in the pit.

[RIP Ian Curtis]

Dragonforce are silly. There is no denying that. But it sure as hell beats the whiny lameosity perpetrated on metal for so many years. I mean it's been an unbroken line of whinge from Nu Metal through all this shi'tty emo that's masquerading as metal or metalcore or post-something. It's refreshing to hear some righteous shredding, audible lyrics about doing something other than sitting at home crying and writing poetry and bitching melodies. Dragonforce are the band that had to happen. Hopefully more fun metal will follow. Even more hopefully Viking Skull will rise up to the mighty place they deserve.

[TriviumMetal65]

their insanely fast!!!

[Cocaine]

Dragonforce are silly. There is no denying that. But it sure as hell beats the whiny lameosity perpetrated on metal for so many years. I mean it's been an unbroken line of whinge from Nu Metal through all this shi'tty emo that's masquerading as metal or metalcore or post-something. It's refreshing to hear some righteous shredding, audible lyrics about doing something other than sitting at home crying and writing poetry and bitching melodies. Dragonforce are the band that had to happen. Hopefully more fun metal will follow. Even more hopefully Viking Skull will rise up to the mighty place they deserve.
You make it seem like they're the world's first power metal band.

[RIP Ian Curtis]

They're kinda different to most power metal though. For starters, they don't actually take it that seriously, unlike Rhapsody or Manowar or something, plus their sound is a little different.

[Cocaine]

They're kinda different to most power metal though. For starters, they don't actually take it that seriously, unlike Rhapsody or Manowar or something, plus their sound is a little different.

I can agree that they're fun-loving lyrically, but their music isnt far from most power metal bands, it's just faster.

[RIP Ian Curtis]

I think it's got more of a pop element that could take that kinda music to the next level i.e. actually making money.

[Cocaine]

Dragonforce is making money, and lots of it. Their last show in Toronto made more money from merchandise than the last Gwar show. And Gwar makes all of their money from merchandise.

[Congratulations]

I work at Wal*Mart unloading trucks, and we listen Dragonforce to pump us up while we work. Truly an amazing band, I would love to see them live.

[Steerpike]

I work at Wal*Mart

I'm sorry.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

:lol:

[alytee123]

their insanely fast!!!

*They're, or they are

Im seeing DF in December with ATR. At first I wasnt digging ATR but now I really like em. Fall of Ideals is a great album. It sucks that all the emo and trendy douche bag alternatives are into DF because they're video was on TV or something. Cant wait for the emo phase to end.

[RIP Ian Curtis]

My incredibly nerdy friends who do all that "dress up as knights and hit each other with wooden swords" stuff play DF while they fight. We've started dressing up as vikings for it

[Whale and Wasp]

i think their music is boring and lame. i used to somewhat like them but now they just make me sick.

[sexicutioner469]

hahaha... dragonforce is pure cheese. good guitarists tho.. the drums seem the same threw most of thier songs and the vocals aint too good in my opinion.

[Cocaine]

The guitars are the same in every song and I don't see many people complaining about that.

[Steerpike]

My incredibly nerdy friends who do all that "dress up as knights and hit each other with wooden swords" stuff play DF while they fight. We've started dressing up as vikings for it

Are we talking about re-enactments, RenFests, or LARPing?

[Cipher Hour]

I caught Dragonforce back in September in Vancouver, awesome show. As one would expect the energy was up and the sound was tight. I also managed to get to the show a little early and I got to see Herman walking around outside the venue with his guitar, as well as Sam being stocked by a few groupies, was cool. I'm definitely looking forward to seeing them again the next time they roll through my neck of the woods. The turn out for the show was pretty good considering they'd never been to Vancouver before.

Long live cheesy power metal!

[Apocalypticon]

Fury of the Storm from 3:20 on is pure secks.

[RIP Ian Curtis]

Are we talking about re-enactments, RenFests, or LARPing?

Not sure what LARPing is. These guys are called The Society of Creative Anachronisms. They basically dress up all medieval and beat the crap out of each other.

[Steerpike]

Not sure what LARPing is. These guys are called The Society of Creative Anachronisms. They basically dress up all medieval and beat the crap out of each other.

Re-enactments then.

LARPing is an acronym meaning Live Action RolePlaying. It's for people who enjoy playing RPGs, but would like to get a modicum of exercise into their routine somehow.

And since I've seen pictures of some women who participate in this and wear very low-cut tops and other revealing costumes, I'm all for this practice!

[Apocalypticon]

Not sure what LARPing is. These guys are called The Society of Creative Anachronisms. They basically dress up all medieval and beat the crap out of each other.

Sounds more like backyard wrestling than anything else.

[Steerpike]

Sounds more like backyard wrestling than anything else.

Less than you think. They're basically a slightly less beer-y, but just as hairy version of Civil War reenactors.

[trivium4291]

they suck so bad live though!

[Steerpike]

I thought they were really bad-*** live, actually.

[metalhead_matt]

saw them at download. poor sound quality and mixing. but then the only way the vocals were going to sound as good as they do on the recording is by overdubbing his singing

[RIP Ian Curtis]

Less than you think. They're basically a slightly less beer-y, but just as hairy version of Civil War reenactors.

Ah these guys don't re-enact anything specific, like Agincourt or anything, just generally whale on each other, fire arrows at each other, feast and quaff. I usually just come for the quaffing. And the wenches of course. Girls who actually think being called a wench is romantic...

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

saw them at download. poor sound quality and mixing. but then the only way the vocals were going to sound as good as they do on the recording is by overdubbing his singing

More like:

• Practise more
• Stop drinking and thinking it's cool
• Get a rhythm guitarist so it doesn't sound like *** during the harmonies.

ZP is fine live, he was the only member I could actually hear, even Dave was too quiet at first, I couldn't believe it. I waited all week for them and they start playing My Spirit Will Go On and I hardly recognised it. :(

[RIP Ian Curtis]

I think maybe Dragonforce are better as a concept than as an actual band. Hate Crew = Drinking is cool, its a nice change to all these straight edged dipshi'ts.

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

Drinking while on stage to the point where you can't play a simple pentatonic solo = ****ing retarded.

They're not amazing guitarists when they're sober so getting drunk is just stupid.

If they could make their live sound like it is on the album, then I would adore them completely but they really can't and it really disappoints me.

[RIP Ian Curtis]

That is a good point, being too trashed to play is damned unprofessional, even Metallica didn't do that back in the day.

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

Indeed. Any other time was a completely different story though. :lol:

[RIP Ian Curtis]

Exactly. I think Dragonforce are doing the "right" thing, bringing drunken hijinks and fun back into the scene, but I also think it will be up to the band who come after them to really pull it off. Trivium had potential, but are far to serious, lame (oh we stopped boning groupies and drinking), crap and wanting-to-be-metallica. Bring back the days of heavy metal hedonism!

[Eliminator]

yeah man hedonism rules

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

Well I don't know the reason why they stopped drinking but if it was anyhting to do with improving performance, then that's a step forward in my opinion. They're one of that bands that people like to pick on for being sloppy live and yeah, they have a good reason but then if they're noticing this and doing something about it, then that's mature and very respectable.

I haven't seen/heard them live since they released the Crusade so I don't know how they've improved but I do definitely think teh guys from DF need to have a close look at some of the live videos and take some things into consideration.

[Steerpike]

If The Crusade is the kind of music they make while sober, they need to get back on the bottle.

[Iceman-rocker]

dragonforce blows.

:) (flame me now!)

[RIP Ian Curtis]

omfg, they so do not blow...

wait, I think I may have stumbled into your incredibly clever flame-trap...

[Iceman-rocker]

bwaha i win.

and no, i did not purposefully set a trap. dragonforce is technically good but their musicc is extremely unapealing to me. Their lyrics hold no emotional or even psycological apeal, and their rythms are not complex enough for me to enjoy. Technically, they are all able musicians and im sure their shows are badass but i think HORSE owns them in every aspect except for singing talent and extreme guitar shredding ability.

[alytee123]

Trivium quit drinking? Damn

I'l judge their live show on december 14th..one day after seeing them on the (yes you guessed it) 13th December. Though from live videos I've seen they'[ve always been entertaining. Perhaps a few errors involved but I guess its just 50/50.

[metalhead_matt]

More like:

• Practise more
• Stop drinking and thinking it's cool
• Get a rhythm guitarist so it doesn't sound like *** during the harmonies.

ZP is fine live, he was the only member I could actually hear, even Dave was too quiet at first, I couldn't believe it. I waited all week for them and they start playing My Spirit Will Go On and I hardly recognised it. :(

did you go download? you going next year? im praying for bodom to play lol. either that or Im fancying a roadtrip to germany :p wacken baby

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

did you go download? you going next year? im praying for bodom to play lol. either that or Im fancying a roadtrip to germany :p wacken baby

Yeah I went Download. Don't know about this year, depends on the bands. Bodom are getting pretty mainstream so maybe...

Alexi did something for Total Guitar...

[metalhead_matt]

yeah they'll probably be on at the snickers stage. who were your favourite bands this year?

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

Umm, Arch Enemy, Avenged Sevenfold, Metallica, Guns N Roses, Stone Sour, Satryricon, Cradle of Filth and Bullet for my Valentine. I enjoyed watching Wicked Wistom too, that bitch can growl lower than Corey Taylor...

[metalhead_matt]

Umm, Arch Enemy, Avenged Sevenfold, Metallica, Guns N Roses, Stone Sour, Satryricon, Cradle of Filth and Bullet for my Valentine. I enjoyed watching Wicked Wistom too, that bitch can growl lower than Corey Taylor...

cool, I caught mostly the same, metalllica were great :)

[punintended_42]

I hadn't ever heard of them and then the guitarists in my band were like lets go see Dragonforce and I was like, uh . . . ok, and now I love them. The live show was awesome. And, ZP is pretty hot . . . and I love Sam and Herman, they are amazing. Plus, how could you hate a metal band that has a keyboard/keytar player?

[Druumer89]

They're pretty cool in small doses. Through The Fire and The Flames is an awesome awesome song but I probably couldn't take a full album of theirs.

I love Through the Fire and the Flames but listening to anymore than that just gets old...very talented band, very repedative band.

[Mother]

I just got sonic firestorm a few weeks back .. its preety cool.

[Mars Volta]

I saw them for the second time last night (first was back in January), they were pretty good but the sound was bad.
There were some emo kids infront of me constantly shoving people and jumping up and down aswell. :angry:

Do they ever play Dawn Over A New World? They haven't either of the times I've seen them.

[InnocentExile]

I like them, but get sick of them really easily. On the albums that I have, in my opinion, most of the songs sound the same.

[metalhead_matt]

I love Through the Fire and the Flames but listening to anymore than that just gets old...very talented band, very repedative band.

il second this.
does the drummer use a duelist? just curious

[Otisbum]

I like them, but get sick of them really easily. On the albums that I have, in my opinion, most of the songs sound the same.
Yeah, I will never get tired of Body Breakdown though.

[Bass_ment]

We come from distant lands we travel so far
Can you see the bleeding scar

A land unknown we come so far
We ride the night till morning star

Far beyond the boundaries of hell and starlight
On the road to lands unknown forever more

Their in the silent lands on wings of glory free
We can go on forever with the darkness so far away

On wings of burning fire across the oceans far

On towards our destiny we travel far and wide
Journey through the darkenss as your hearts refuse to die

Far away beyond the gates of space and time
Through the wastelands forever and on

So far away we wait for the day
For the lights are so wasted and gone

Far and wide across the land, the victory is ours
On towards the gates of reason

Cry far away as we reach for the day
Blasting our way through the punishment and the pain

Far beyond the lost horizon standing on the shore

Fly far away to the end of our days

We fly free so far from here there's one thing we'll relay

Here we are far beyond the distant sky

Never know how far we travelled
We will have our stand

Each of these lyrics came from different songs. Yes, Dragonforce, we get it. Everything you guys do is done in some place REALLY GODDAM FAR AWAY.
Dragonforce are a parody of themselves and undeserving of anyone's respect.
Thank god they know how to mindlessly apply technical skill in order to cover up repetitive and uninspired lyrics held aloft by equally repetitive and uninspired song writing. Hell it manages to distract and wow the 14 year old emo kids who crowd up their shows.
Hey at least they're fast amirite!???!!

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

Bitchin' about DF lyrics is getting old, get over it.

[RIP Ian Curtis]

Bitchin' about DF lyrics is getting old, get over it.

I agree, they're not really there to insipire you with poetry, they're there to have fun.

[Benzum]

Seeing Dragonforce tomorrow. Can't. Wait.
All That Remains support, who are beyond excellent, they will steal the show I reckon, but that's not the point. Bring on The Force!

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

I've heard good things about All That Remains, I might have to listen to more of their material.

[Benzum]

You should, they actually are a breath of fresh air into a completely worn out genre :(

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

What are they classed as, metalcore?

[Cocaine]

Yeah, Metalcore.

They're not the best Metalcore band (BTBAM) but they're up there. Their vocalist really stepped it up on their last release.

[Steerpike]

Bitchin' about DF lyrics is getting old, get over it.

Perhaps.

Though I don't think I'll ever run out of jokes talking about the quality (or lack thereof) in Trivium and Atreyu lyrics. The jokes practically write themselves!

[Bass_ment]

Perhaps.

Though I don't think I'll ever run out of jokes talking about the quality (or lack thereof) in Trivium and Atreyu lyrics. The jokes practically write themselves!

Heed this post, boys, its filled with truth. (except for the making fun of DF lyrics part, that'll never get old)

[NeverFading14]

Im a pretty big dragonforce fan. I could see how people wouldn't like them though, the 9 minute songs with the same drum beat throughout the song could definatly turn people off. But I find them very entertaining and every person in the band is very talented, Even though you can hardly hear the bass. But when you do hear the bass its pretty intense, like in Body Breakdown

[Cocaine]

Even though you can hardly hear the bass. But when you do hear the bass its pretty intense, like in Body Breakdown

That's literally the only exciting thing they've done on bass since well, ever. In fact, that's one of the only things that's caught me by surprise since Disciples of Babylon.

[NeverFading14]

That's literally the only exciting thing they've done on bass since well, ever. In fact, that's one of the only things that's caught me by surprise since Disciples of Babylon.

Yeah I know, its sad. because their bass player is truly good. I mean you can't even hear the bass going with the guitar. ever. It's NEVER audible

[Cocaine]

Their new bass player is terrible (at least at bass). Adrien was pretty good though. Fredric is a great guitarist though.

[suspect]

I don't know what you guys are talking about. The bass is perfectly audible on lots of songs, particularly on Valley of the Damned. Maybe you should get some better speakers/headphones?

[Lukerz]

I know this is reviving an old topic, but I thought I'd just like to say I went to see Dragonforce in Bristol, UK on Tuesday with special guests and All That Remains and Firewind, and Dragonforce without a doubt put on the best show. Taking the piss out of Matt Tuck, getting the crowd to shout "SAM'S A C***", the trampoline girls (who, beside the numerous chants, didn't get their tits out) and basically just a fun and energy filled show. It was seriously, seriously worth the £12.50. They could have charged £200 and it would have been worth it.

[NeverFading14]

I saw them with Horse The Band and they were amazing. They even played Body Breakdown :D

[Cocaine]

When I saw them play Body Breakdown the solo was horrible, which re-affirms my previous post in this thread.

[NeverFading14]

Herman forgets a few of the notes in his solos sometimes. which is understandable, but geez when he messes up the notes in the scales that's just sad. but i still love his guitar playing

[shadow_stalker]

well i saw 'force for the third time about 2 weeks ago at manchester and they were alot better than last time (mostly becuase they didnt have Edguy to steal the show from them, but still...) Firewind were well cool. But i was really disapointed by all that remains, they had a few good moments but overall they were very meh-ish, except for the drummer who was pretty damn awesome.

i was sooooooooooo happy when they played revolution deathsquad, also when i saw an acoustic guitar at the side of the stage, i hoped against hope that the would play disciples of babylon but to no avail :(