Musical Ignorance

[Auldy]

I have an un-named friend who is so biased, that he believes that, since the 90's, there hasnt been any good music at all. So, how many people disagree (or agree) that there hasnt been any good music for 16 years? I want some people to reply so i can show him this.

Im not saying that Pre 90s stuff sucked, i love it, im just saying that there is music from the last 15 years that is perfectly awesome (oasis, pearl jam, coutless others) and from all genres of music too

[slack]

I disagree completely. Especially today with the internet, there are so many bands popping up on myspace or purevolume and so many different styles of music out there that you have to be pretty closeminded to not find something you like.

[uberoreo]

Yeah, I have to say that I disagree too. But was your "friend" trying to say that stuff predating the 90's was.....better, like hair metal or something?

[Jacaranda]

Your friend needs to pull his head out of his ***.

[Kyle]

Your friend is ignorant, music is amazing right now.

[AlienEater]

your friend is mighty ignorant.

[Iai]

Music's better now, if anything.

[Rams]

Some is good some is bad. Rock and metal are dismall now. Jazz, Blues, and Rap are very strong.

[Aria.]

hes pretty ignorant

[beso negro]

Some is good some is bad. Rock and metal are dismal now. Jazz, Blues, and Rap are very strong.

This message has been given my seal of approval.

[Iai]

If we're talking about the state of things right now, then jazz, blues, and rap are the three genres that are absolutely NO WAY as strong as they were.

[Kage]

Rock and metal are dismall now.
No.

[Aria.]

If we're talking about the state of things right now, then jazz, blues, and rap are the three genres that are absolutely NO WAY as strong as they were.

Depends on what you mean by strong.

[AlienEater]

Some is good some is bad. Rock and metal are dismall now. Jazz, Blues, and Rap are very strong.

There's loads of great rock and metal nowadays.

There's always good music around.

[Amit]

there is more amazing music now than ever before

[EightMilesHigh]

If you think all modern music sucks, you're not looking hard enough.

[Amit]

so true

or they just aren't looking :(

[Bartender]

Depends on what you mean by strong.

How many different things could he mean by strong?

[Dave de Sylvia]

He could be referring to Andrew Strong.

[Amit]

popularity
quality of the music
technique of the musicians

[Steerpike]

Some is good some is bad. Rock and metal are dismall now. Jazz, Blues, and Rap are very strong.

Whatever you're smoking, can I have some? That sounds like some pretty strong ****.

[beso negro]

If we're talking about the state of things right now, then jazz, blues, and rap are the three genres that are absolutely NO WAY as strong as they were.

I can see how you can possibly make an argument for jazz or blues, but don't sit here and tell me rap was better 10-15 years ago. No real fan of the genre could say that with a straight face.

[conselation]

wtf music has become even more varied than it used to be how can anyone not be able to find something they like?

[Dave de Sylvia]

I can see how you can possibly make an argument for jazz or blues, but don't sit here and tell me rap was better 10-15 years ago. No real fan of the genre could say that with a straight face.
Taste.

[Steerpike]

I can see how you can possibly make an argument for jazz or blues, but don't sit here and tell me rap was better 10-15 years ago. No real fan of the genre could say that with a straight face.

To be honest, given the glut in the hip-hop market today, you have to do just as much digging to find the really good stuff now as you did 10 years ago.

[beso negro]

To be honest, given the glut in the hip-hop market today, you have to do just as much digging to find the really good stuff now as you did 10 years ago.

lil jon
ludacris
bone thugs
eminem
nas
jay-z
outkast
the roots

that didn't take any diggin

[Dave de Sylvia]

Arguably only Lil' Jon is producing consistently great music.

edit: hell no that's not even arguable

[John Paul Harrison]

I have an un-named friend who is so biased, that he believes that, since the 90's, there hasnt been any good music at all. So, how many people disagree (or agree) that there hasnt been any good music for 16 years? I want some people to reply so i can show him this.

Im not saying that Pre 90s stuff sucked, i love it, im just saying that there is music from the last 15 years that is perfectly awesome (oasis, pearl jam, coutless others) and from all genres of music too

Your friend is wrong.

Your friend might have been trying to suggest that "good" music isn't as popular/accessible as it was in decades previous- in which case I might sympathize. He might also be lamenting that the "Golden Age" of classic rock is over, which too is understandable.

But there is not a shortage of any kind.

[beso negro]

Arguably only Lil' Jon is producing consistently great music.

edit: hell no that's not even arguable

Taste.

[AndrewHimmler]

I love a lot of new musicians, recently got into a lot of contemporary jazz, been into Mason Jennings a wonderful folk musician, its just impossible to not have good music in a certain day or age. Every generation has terrible music and good music, its just a matter of where you look.

[Jacaranda]

Arguably only Lil' Jon is producing consistently great music.

edit: hell no that's not even arguable

eminem man eminem.

[Kyle]

Hip Hop is hot right now, but it has been for quite some time.

[Dave de Sylvia]

eminem man eminem.
Yeah man, 'Fack' was such a ****ing hot song

[Jacaranda]

ok you pick like his one bad non-skit non-post-em show song ****ing biased against rap
racist

[Dave de Sylvia]

2, 4, 6, 8
Eminem is full of hate

Seriously, pretty much everything since Sing For The Moment has sucked something or other

[EightMilesHigh]

2, 4, 6, 8
Eminem is full of hate

Seriously, pretty much everything since Sing For The Moment has sucked something or other

he's turning into a novelty.

[rockinbass17]

I feel that music has been gradually getting better and better since the mid-80's, and that right now it's at the best it has been for twenty years.

Different eras will contain genres that appeal to certain people. For instance, I'm not big on new wave, thrash metal, hair rock, or punk, so the 80's don't appeal very much to me. I can still find music from that period that I do enjoy, however. I really like psychadellia, prog, jazz, blues, and folk- therefore I find the 60's -70's appealing to my tastes. I'm also into indie, alternative, and other modern styles, and hence my opinion of right now being the best time for music in twenty years.

It's all my opinion, of course. A lot of people love new wave and hate jazz.

But to say that no good music has come out of the last sixteen years is rediculous.

[PsychoTronn]

I personally like music from the 80s - mid 90s the best, but there is still some music coming out now that is good. claypool is still coming out with some awesome stuff.

[Kage]

I feel that music has been gradually getting better and better since the mid-80's, and that right now it's at the best it has been for twenty years.

Different eras will contain genres that appeal to certain people. For instance, I'm not big on new wave, thrash metal, hair rock, or punk, so the 80's don't appeal very much to me. I can still find music from that period that I do enjoy, however. I really like psychadellia, prog, jazz, blues, and folk- therefore I find the 60's -70's appealing to my tastes. I'm also into indie, alternative, and other modern styles, and hence my opinion of right now being the best time for music in twenty years.

It's all my opinion, of course. A lot of people love new wave and hate jazz.

But to say that no good music has come out of the last sixteen years is rediculous.
You seem to think as if the popular styles of each decade are the only ones that are around.

[Aria.]

How many different things could he mean by strong?

eyuh he could be meaning heaps of different things

what are you dense

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13592338&postcount=20


still dont know what he means by strong

[Mekkalayakay]

You have to realize that the average person is only aware of music from the radio.

[Apollyon]

Your friend apparently has horrible taste in music.

[Rams]

If we're talking about the state of things right now, then jazz, blues, and rap are the three genres that are absolutely NO WAY as strong as they were.

Jazz is at its best. Most people who say it's dead don't listen to anything beyond Miles Davis. Blues will never be as strong as it was in the '60's and '70s but surely better than any other era. Rap has been pretty constant from the '90s till today. People always seem to forget the ****ty 2 Live Crew's of the old days simply because they choose not to.

Rock and Metal are absolute **** today.

[Mekkalayakay]

Jazz is at its best. Most people who say it's dead don't listen to anything beyond Miles Davis. Blues will never be as strong as it was in the '60's and '70s but surely better than any other era. Rap has been pretty constant from the '90s till today. People always seem to forget the ****ty 2 Live Crew's of the old days simply because they choose not to.

Rock and Metal are absolute **** today.

You don't know your stuff well enough. =/

[gaslight]

There is always good music around, you just have to find it.

To say no good music is being made these days is borderline retarded. Actually, it's not borderline retarded, it is retarded.

Anyone who thinks there is no good music being made these days is probably the kind of person who should wear a helmet in the bath-tub.

[Dave de Sylvia]

People always seem to forget the ****ty 2 Live Crew's of the old days simply because they choose not to.
And rightly so. You judge the quality of art by its best examples, not its worst.

[Jacaranda]

ya so now obviously wins because now has eminem clearly.

[Dave de Sylvia]

Notto mention Eddie Vedder

[Zorg]

Well your friend is dead wrong in saying that there hasn't been good music since the 90s. I'd go as far to say that the 90's were the best decade of music so far. The 2000s are pretty good too, he's just not looking hard enough.

[Dave de Sylvia]

Please don't use apostrophes in decades, it upsets me.

[Kage]

Rock and Metal are absolute **** today.
I'm sorry but you have no clue what you're talking about regarding this. In the underground, rock and metal is sooo much better than it ever was.

[AlienEater]

Please don't use apostrophes in decades, it upsets me.

I'm upset too.

[Rams]

You don't know your stuff well enough. =/

Then please enlighten me.
edit: Nevermind, I just saw you're latest rap listens were "Cannibal Ox, Binary Star, Busdriver, Audio Two" and don't want to subject myself to crap.

And rightly so. You judge the quality of art by its best examples, not its worst.

2 Live Crew isn't necessarily bad (used them as an example), they are just the equivalent of the illogical banger rap that is out there today. The best of rap today is equal to the stuff from before.

[Mekkalayakay]

Then please enlighten me.
edit: Nevermind, I just saw you're latest rap listens were "Cannibal Ox, Binary Star, Busdriver, Audio Two" and don't want to subject myself to crap.

Read Gaslight's post.

[Excursions]

Jazz is at its best. Most people who say it's dead don't listen to anything beyond Miles Davis. Blues will never be as strong as it was in the '60's and '70s but surely better than any other era. Rap has been pretty constant from the '90s till today. People always seem to forget the ****ty 2 Live Crew's of the old days simply because they choose not to.

Rock and Metal are absolute **** today.

You really don't know anything about blues if you think it's best era was the 1960s-70s.

[Jacaranda]

rap will be much better in the near future then the past.

[Rams]

You really don't know anything about blues if you think it's best era was the 1960s-70s.

Actually I know plenty. The best blues albums, as well as music, came from the late '50s, '60s, and early '70s. Plus they had Sam Maghette.

[niobium]

There is good music always. Look harder.

[Eliminator]

the best blues comes from white guys

[Jacaranda]

or latino guys trying to be white

[Excursions]

Nah, blind African-Americans finger picking 12 strings.

[Rams]

Nah, blind African-Americans finger picking 12 strings.

You think Blind Blake's era was better than the '60s and '70s for Blues?

[Excursions]

Yes I do.

[morrissey]

New music is great so is old music

old radio is great so is new radio

music is great more or less

[Dave de Sylvia]

New radios are better, they know the true meaning of wireless if you know what I mean

[morrissey]

but news radio is the best so informative

[Robert Crumb]

NewsRadio was a pretty good TV show.

[morrissey]

Anything combining Phil Hartman and Joe Rogan gets my vote if you know what I mean

[Robert Crumb]

Rogan/Hartman hirsuite fetish porn: vote

[Jacaranda]

Andy Dick was in that too. Same with that gay guy who isnt' gay but might be.

[Auldy]

thank you for ur input womens and childrens of Sputnik

[eburton04]

Life imitates art.

[mick7]

I disagree completely. Especially today with the internet, there are so many bands popping up on myspace or purevolume and so many different styles of music out there that you have to be pretty closeminded to not find something you like.


totally agreed.

[antihippy]

for me, i'm glad the 60's,70's and 80's are dead.

[clairvoyant]

for me, i'm glad the 60's,70's and 80's are dead.

aw man, i loved 70s and 80s music.

but 90s music was great as well too

[Jon]

There were just as many awful bands pre-90s as there have been since.

I don't mean just hair metal bands and stuff, I mean like really awful one-bit pop bands, they make Akon look like a musician.

People have just forgotten about them.

[Amit]

akon's pretty awesome tbh

[CrossTheBreeze]

akon's pretty awesome tbh

ummmm.... no

I think it's fairly obvious that every decade had some amount of good music. It seems like your friend is basing his opinion by what he sees on MTV

[Eliminator]

stop being ingorant cross the breze

[Ganondorf]

I like Akon.

[Amit]

ummmm.... no

I think it's fairly obvious that every decade had some amount of good music. It seems like your friend is basing his opinion by what he sees on MTV

and why not

[Iscariot]

lil jon
ludacris
bone thugs
eminem
nas
jay-z
outkast
the roots

that didn't take any diggin

blows
blows
mediocre
decent
blows
blows
mediocre
good

dig deeper

[CrossTheBreeze]

and why not

His songs have really homo lyrics and the voice effects on some of his songs annoy the crap out of me

I'm not a big fan of akon's genre to begin with.... so, yeah

[Amit]

oh ok so you can't dance that's cool too

[CrossTheBreeze]

oh ok so you can't dance that's cool too

hmmmm..... I'll admit atman you're good... real good

touche

[Amit]

it's well known that people who have a distaste for hip hop simply cannot dance well

[CrossTheBreeze]

it's well known that people who have a distaste for hip hop simply cannot dance well

i don't dislike all hip hop though and I wouldn't count that as the main reason for me dislikeing akon

although I can totally understand how you would say that if I was a good dancer I would probably like it a little more

[antihippy]

i don't like hip-hop but i can samba.