Saosin

[Jack Wilson]

what do you guys think of their new album. i love the mix of heavy instruments over cove's clean singing. i think these guys really stepped it up. and has anyone seen the dvd?

[CommieCanada]

bland

boring

balls

[bottlerocket]

The only real song I like by them is Seven Years. That song is freaking awesome.

The rest....ehhh...not so good. Overall, a pretty bad band.

[10571z]

Best band ever... I love them... Check out these songs!

7 years
translating the name
follow and feel
i never wanted to

just my fav's

[Concubine]

haha i like that "ive been trying to reach you" or something. Its not a typical saosin's song, but its bloody catchy

[something vague]

bland

boring

balls

This.

[10571z]

bland

boring

balls

:eek: are u serious?

[bottlerocket]

Yes.

O_O

[form]

i made a saosin thread before then gav and someone else argued about them for 2 pages and it got closed :(

[team_racket]

either way, circa survive are also one of the s'hittest blandest boring bands ever.

[cadencethefire]

i can't belive people are talking trash about saosin and circa survive... you're probably only listening to one song and making a quick judgment. What i say you do with your half thought out opinions is;

shut up
listen to it again all the way through... two or three times
define what EXACTLY you don't like about it
come back when you know what you're talking about

saosin is the ****

[team_racket]

hahahahaha. everyone around here used to bone it (circa) because his croon was similar to atdi 'apparently'. its all just so unbelieveably boring and generic words cant describe. sure both bands have the occasional good riff or melody, but thats not enough to save them. theres nothing memorable to it. listening to the same rubbish over and over again wont make me change my mind.

[Mute Print]

I like Saosin.

Circa Survive is boring.

[cadencethefire]

I like Saosin.

Circa Survive is boring.

i can understand that, anthony green uses a lot of the same ideas for vocals... which can get boring... i think the other musicians are amazing though

[form]

saosin is like one of my favorite bands

but still, circa survive sucks

[cadencethefire]

hahahahaha. everyone around here used to bone it (circa) because his croon was similar to atdi 'apparently'. its all just so unbelieveably boring and generic words cant describe. sure both bands have the occasional good riff or melody, but thats not enough to save them. theres nothing memorable to it. listening to the same rubbish over and over again wont make me change my mind.

so, you don't want to sound like you know what you're talking about?

[team_racket]

what is there to talk about apart from the fact cs are an absolute yawn-fest. saosin being the better band with a few just about memorable songs.

[CommieCanada]

:eek: are u serious?

they sound like every other band that has gained some popularity in the last 5 years.

[cadencethefire]

what is there to talk about apart from the fact cs are an absolute yawn-fest. saosin being the better band with a few just about memorable songs.

you're still being really short and shallow with your explanations, i want to hear more than just "they're boring"...

[team_racket]

well its generic. done to death. stale. flavourless. sleep inducing.

[Jack Wilson]

circa survive does suck but saosins not generic they have some really good guitar work.

[cadencethefire]

well its generic. done to death. stale. flavourless. sleep inducing.

ok, so what would you suggest that isn't generec and flavorless?

[hotpants_67]

has anyone heard the song, i can tell there was an accident here earlier?

best song by saosin. ever.

[10571z]

i can't belive people are talking trash about saosin and circa survive... you're probably only listening to one song and making a quick judgment. What i say you do with your half thought out opinions is;

shut up
listen to it again all the way through... two or three times
define what EXACTLY you don't like about it
come back when you know what you're talking about

saosin is the ****

agreed!...

circa survive has 1 good song.. great golden baby

[Fire Away]

I like Saosin.

Circa Survive is boring.

123

The chorus to "Sleepers" is awesome.

[team_racket]

ok, so what would you suggest that isn't generec and flavorless?

go listen to grade. you may like them :thumb:

http://www.myspace.com/gradeundertheradar

[-:Vincent:-]

I like both Saosin and Circa Survive. They both have nice lyrics and unique vocals. However, I do think that Saosin has gone downhill with their new ablum. Cove doesn't quite do as good a job as Anthony Green, and it just sounds a bit misplaced. Also Anthony Green was a much better songwriter, because some of the lyrics on the new album are dull and cliche. I especially despise the song on the new album where he sings "your not alone, i'm telling you this i know" like some gay guy from a boy band. There are some salvagable parts of it though, and it is OK, but didn't meet my expectations by far. I'd give their new album a 6/10, the old stuff was awesome 8/10.

As for Circa Survive, the only thing I miss is Anthony's screaming. Other than that, I like how that band is doing. Some of their good songs are: In Fear and Faith, Stop the ****in' Car, and of course Act Appalled.

[bottlerocket]

i can't belive people are talking trash about saosin and circa survive... you're probably only listening to one song and making a quick judgment. What i say you do with your half thought out opinions is;

shut up
listen to it again all the way through... two or three times
define what EXACTLY you don't like about it
come back when you know what you're talking about

saosin is the ****

LOL

I've listened to plenty of Saosin as a matter of fact. I've listened to at least 95% of their songs at least 2-3 times because my friend Dan is really into them. I've been spinning Seven Years since 2004ish.

What i say you do with your half thought out opinions is;

shut up

What I say you do with your assumptions you totally pulled out of your behind:

Shove it. :)

[-:Vincent:-]

Let's not argue now...its not good.

[lunchforthesky]

Let's not argue now...its not good.

not good like this band.

im seeing them of sunday at taste of chaos so ill see if they can change my mind but there album and ep's and the blandest generic stuff going.

[CommieCanada]

i can't belive people are talking trash about saosin and circa survive... you're probably only listening to one song and making a quick judgment. What i say you do with your half thought out opinions is;

shut up
listen to it again all the way through... two or three times
define what EXACTLY you don't like about it
come back when you know what you're talking about

saosin is the ****

i love circa survive.

i hate saosin. just because i dont like what you do doesnt mean i havent listened to it. i have their ep and i downloaded their new album because they had potential. They just didnt do anything with it. Their musicianship, while skilled is uninteresting because i have heard all those riffs before. I have heard those double bass pedals. They dont do it for me because they just sound like everyone else. They waited to long to release music and now its all been done already

[bottlerocket]

I like Circa Survive, too, because Juturna is an interesting concept album. The story Green tells always leaves me breathless...at least my interpretation of it.

[cadencethefire]

i love circa survive.

i hate saosin. just because i dont like what you do doesnt mean i havent listened to it. i have their ep and i downloaded their new album because they had potential. They just didnt do anything with it. Their musicianship, while skilled is uninteresting because i have heard all those riffs before. I have heard those double bass pedals. They dont do it for me because they just sound like everyone else. They waited to long to release music and now its all been done already

that was an awesome reply. I agree, they took way too long to release an album, and i'll add on top of that cove's lyrics are crap half of the cd is "i never wanted to" or "we are the only ones" i had all their ep's and b sides before they went to capitol and I still like a lot of the music and coves melodic ideas... take "it's so simple", for example, once again crap lyrics but everything besides that is awesome.

i really like circa survive too, when i first heard juturna i was blown away, green's vocal melodies do get kinda boring after a while though, i think their next cd will be awesome if he really uses all of his range not just the high notes.

go listen to grade. you may like them :thumb:

http://www.myspace.com/gradeundertheradar

man, talk about boring. everything was in 4/4 and in a major key... it sounded like 1998 pop punk. I hope that :thumb: in your post meant sarcasm...

[cadencethefire]

I like both Saosin and Circa Survive. They both have nice lyrics and unique vocals. However, I do think that Saosin has gone downhill with their new ablum. Cove doesn't quite do as good a job as Anthony Green, and it just sounds a bit misplaced. Also Anthony Green was a much better songwriter, because some of the lyrics on the new album are dull and cliche. I especially despise the song on the new album where he sings "your not alone, i'm telling you this i know" like some gay guy from a boy band. There are some salvagable parts of it though, and it is OK, but didn't meet my expectations by far. I'd give their new album a 6/10, the old stuff was awesome 8/10.

As for Circa Survive, the only thing I miss is Anthony's screaming. Other than that, I like how that band is doing. Some of their good songs are: In Fear and Faith, Stop the ****in' Car, and of course Act Appalled.

i think cove fits saosin better than green, but green is by far a better singer

[B]

man, talk about boring. everything was in 4/4 and in a major key... it sounded like 1998 pop punk. I hope that :thumb: in your post meant sarcasm...

You should probably go kill yourself.

Grade set the standard for the **** you listen to.

Saosin is generic as hell. I still don't mind them.

[cadencethefire]

what? are you kidding?

that music is crap, and i seriously doubt saosin or any of the other bands i listen have ever heard of them.

kill myself? thanks...

[B]

Are you kidding?

Of course Saosin has heard of them you dumb ****.

Of course i'm being hostile you're a complete idiot who apparently has no clue what he's talking about.

[cobert]

that music is crap, and i seriously doubt saosin or any of the other bands i listen have ever heard of them.

I dont like Grade either, but they are the reason most bad popcore band exist.

[cadencethefire]

Are you kidding?

Of course Saosin has heard of them you dumb ****.

Of course i'm being hostile you're a complete idiot who apparently has no clue what he's talking about.

You're a moron

[cobert]

No, I think you kind of are.

[cadencethefire]

I dont like Grade either, but they are the reason most bad popcore band exist.

who says they are?

[B]

You're a moron

Run out of dumb **** to say?

Grade is to "popcore" as a band like the Beatles is to modern music.

who says they are?

Every band that came after them.

[cadencethefire]

Run out of dumb **** to say?

Grade is to "popcore" as a band like the Beatles is to modern music.



Every band that came after them.

just because they were the first doesn't mean everyone that sounded like that after them listened to them or ever heard of them for that matter, and really if you're saying grade (a ****ty underground canadian band) influenced saosin (a huntington beach band that just formed only a few years ago)... you really are a moron

[cobert]

who says they are?


Seeing as Grade was around in about 1998 and Saosin came around in about 2002, and plenty of popcore bands list Grade as an influence....


What, do you think Saosin started all of this or something? So what if they were influenced by Grade, it shouldnt make them any less of a band in your opinion.

[B]

just because they were the first doesn't mean everyone that sounded like that after them listened to them or ever heard of them for that matter

I never said it was because they came first.

Bands have specifically cited in interviews that Grade was the biggest influence for that particular type of music.

Even if a band hasn't heard of them, they would have been influenced by bands that were directly influenced by Grade.

[cadencethefire]

grade still sucks

[cobert]

That's alright, as long as you kind of believe they had a major part in forming modern pop-punk type bands.

[cadencethefire]

yeah i get what you guys are saying now, though it's kind of hard to believe that something like that influences all pop punk/ pop rock bands... i wish there was a way to physically trace it, like an evolutionary tree or something

edit:

sorry to come off as an asshole with my first post in this thread too, i should have thought about what kind of reactions i'd get from an offensive post like that. I want to make it clear though, i don't think any less of anyone for not liking saosin, but it's best if you ARE going to say you don't like a band that you give good reason, otherwise it just sounds like you don't know what you're talking about.

[B]

They aren't good no, but I think Metallica sucks as well and I don't deny their influence. Same with pretty much every influencial band, really.

[cadencethefire]

but to be that influencial of a band you have to be well known... metallica's huge, so it's easy to understand that they're an influence on just about every metal band that ever was after them...

same thing with the beatles, nirvana and so on

i don't want you to think i'm trying to counter your argument just know that there's more proof for those bands than there is for grade and it would help me better understand if there were more proof...

[team_racket]

You should probably go kill yourself.

Grade set the standard for the **** you listen to.

Saosin is generic as hell. I still don't mind them.

glad someone understands.

[B]

but to be that influencial of a band you have to be well known... metallica's huge, so it's easy to understand that they're an influence on just about every metal band that ever was after them...

same thing with the beatles, nirvana and so on

i don't want you to think i'm trying to counter your argument just know that there's more proof for those bands than there is for grade and it would help me better understand if there were more proof...

There's tons of proof. You're just blind.

I've seen Grade mentioned so many times as an influence in interviews and on websites. I don't even listen to the genre.

[cadencethefire]

There's tons of proof. You're just blind.

I've seen Grade mentioned so many times as an influence in interviews and on websites. I don't even listen to the genre.

come on man, if there's so much proof why not post it?

[team_racket]

the fact grade were doing it in 98 is good enough proof. saosin are not the worst band ever. grade arent the worst band ever. but its just nice to see grade get some credit for doing it before. peace.

[CommieCanada]

what? are you kidding?

that music is crap, and i seriously doubt saosin or any of the other bands i listen have ever heard of them.

kill myself? thanks...

yeah seriously dude.

Grade pretty much set the standard

[cadencethefire]

the fact grade were doing it in 98 is good enough proof. saosin are not the worst band ever. grade arent the worst band ever. but its just nice to see grade get some credit for doing it before. peace.

no it's not good enough proof just because they were doing it a long time ago doesn't mean they set any kind of standard or influenced any band for that matter. If you don't have proof for such a statement then it's a little hard to swallow, get what i'm saying?? You can't just trace an entire genre back to one band honestly, making music like that is REALLY simple and i belive blink was also doing 4/4 major progressions earlier than grade. So here's what it comes down to: no one band can claim any kind of influence over any genre ever.

[cadencethefire]

yeah seriously dude.

Grade pretty much set the standard

you're so wrong you don't even know

[B]

no it's not good enough proof just because they were doing it a long time ago doesn't mean they set any kind of standard or influenced any band for that matter. If you don't have proof for such a statement then it's a little hard to swallow, get what i'm saying?? You can't just trace an entire genre back to one band honestly, making music like that is REALLY simple and i belive blink was also doing 4/4 major progressions earlier than grade. So here's what it comes down to: no one band can claim any kind of influence over any genre ever.

This has nothing to do with the genre whatsoever.

Never was it implied by any of us that Grade set the standard for musical simplicity.

So here's what it comes down to: Shut the **** up and lurk more.

[form]

this is what happened to my thread when i made a saosin thread

i was proud

[B]

mattay stfu and lurk more noob

<3

[form]

ok thats it

ul see

[B]

im kut u

nife fite l8r met @ da flagpol

[Jack Wilson]

mattay stfu and lurk more noob

<3


im not dissagreeing with you about grade.

[B]

sorry for hijacking your thread

/leaves

[something vague]

saosin more like really ****ing sucksin

[lunchforthesky]

saosin more like really ****ing sucksin

that was true genius :rolleyes: yet it still made me smile

[B]

saosin more like really ****ing sucksin

rofl.

[bottlerocket]

I lol'd at the kid who thinks Grade didn't do crap for the music he listens to.

Hey, read about ur musix. thx.