Ankle Weights

[moogoogaipan]

So, recently I've decided to go and just make my feet disgustingly awesome. Problems is, I'm not sure whether to go straight or to try the ankle weights method.

Seeing is how I know that it's all about control, I figure that I can bypass the ankle weights. But I've heard that JoJo Mayer used them to help, so I was wondering if anyone has had experience.

I bought some today at Wal-Mart because I decided might as well try it anyway.
So after playing for a while, I took them off and my control wasn't better... or worse.

Opinions? Experiences?

[keaton_86]

It'll probably take longer than a day. Think about it. If you lifted weights for a day at the gym, would you notice any difference? Probably not, but if you keep going for a few weeks, you'll see a change.

[Josiah]

I doubt Jo-Jo did. He uses a heel-toe, wich is a rocking motion, that mostly is technique. Putting weight on the ankle would not help that much, if at all. Perhaps if you could put weight on the toes.. but now it's just getting absurd.

Weight training only applies to power, it does not apply to control. And often, it can be detrimental to control at the cost of power.

Smaller muscles move faster, and have greater control. Keep that simple truth in mind.


We don't put wrist weights on to practice our hands do we? Put we can use heavier sticks, wich is VERY different.

The equivlent to using heavier sticks, on the feet, is to adjust the camming, positioning and spring tension to require more work out of the foot/ankle/leg as a whole.

Also, removing the spring from the pedal. This forces you to use the rebound of the drum. It seems impossible at first, but it is not. It's a very effective method of gaining great control and power over the kick playing. Dennis Chambers is a large advocator of this.

[moogoogaipan]

I doubt Jo-Jo did. He uses a heel-toe, wich is a rocking motion, that mostly is technique. Putting weight on the ankle would not help that much, if at all. Perhaps if you could put weight on the toes.. but now it's just getting absurd.

I also really doubt this, but I can't find information disproving it, so I remain skeptical.


Also, removing the spring from the pedal. This forces you to use the rebound of the drum. It seems impossible at first, but it is not. It's a very effective method of gaining great control and power over the kick playing. Dennis Chambers is a large advocator of this.

I think I'll try this. Thanks for that little snippet of goodness...

[some jive turkey]

I kind of think that ankle weights wouldn't be very productive, and I personally would worry about injuries with them.
You won't ever get any results with any kind of weight training after only one day. Unless you're an alien or something.

Also, I'm not sure weight lifting is "only for power" Josiah. Weight training with small ammounts of weight and high reps yeilds different results than large weights and low reps. One tones muscles, and the other bulks. Bruce Lee trained with weights to tone his muscles probably to make him faster.
And as you have said yourself, "speed is a byproduct of control."

I figure you probably know this,...I'm just throwing it out there for discussion fodder.

BTW this is the sickest DC solo ever:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3QcEf4grVY

[Jezen]

I should imagine I would use light weights to practise endurance; theory in that being that if I can play for 10 minutes with extra weight, then I won't have any hassle when I take the extra load off.

[Josiah]

It also then feels different, and responses different. Takign away from the control realm



Also, I'm not sure weight lifting is "only for power" Josiah. Weight training with small ammounts of weight and high reps yeilds different results than large weights and low reps. One tones muscles, and the other bulks. Bruce Lee trained with weights to tone his muscles probably to make him faster.
And as you have said yourself, "speed is a byproduct of control."


Training for endurance, is not training for control.

[Loser]

Unless of course you're training to control your endurance or something equally silly.