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lunchforthesky

11-02-2006, 05:06 PM

I ran down the stairs and into the garden,
put both my hands into the soil.
in the spring, you will bloom,
like her heart, through the blouse,
in the back of the ambulance,
as it turned and turned down the street
(one more turn won't you come back to me?)
as it turned on its red lights,
you were turning into
red roses
red roses
red roses
red roses
but I'm not giving up.

Triangle

11-02-2006, 05:14 PM

When people die, they take a part of us with them..

Waiting, ftw (kinda).

lunchforthesky

11-02-2006, 05:16 PM

i forgot waiting

I sewed it up Stitched all these dead end streets
Into the sewn up seams of my heartstrings unwind(unwound)
Like a petal pulled from an open flower.
Surrounds by fields where children sign but don't make a sound

i hate how they dont play this live anymore

cobert

11-02-2006, 08:06 PM

Let me start this off by saying I know exactly what lyrics Chris will quote but I won't say them because I want to see if I'm right.

He knows what I'm talking about...

How Long Is The Night?. I'd put money on it.

Anyways, Thursday is my favorite band ever, and Full Collapse is the most amazing album I've ever heard.

Porcelain has probably my favorite lyrics ever in it.

And finally, ill say: Full Collapse >>>> Waiting = A City By The Light Divided >>>> War All The Time

I said ever a lot in that post.

lunchforthesky

11-02-2006, 08:16 PM

Thursday is my favourite band too and full collapse my favourite album. i dont know if i can choose between their others. they all have good points. their so much better off for changing their sound every album and not just recreating full collapse everytime....ahem..tbs.

Concubine

11-02-2006, 08:25 PM

Great band. The violin on This Side Of Brightness is beautiful.

11-02-2006, 10:15 PM

Waiting easily has some of the greatest lyrics ever written in the genre.

cbmartinez

11-02-2006, 10:38 PM

I WILL NEVER SLEEP AGAIN
(I'LL NEVER EVEN CLOSE MY EYES)

The best band of all time. The most intensely emotional and musically stunning band I have come across. "Understanding In A Car Crash" should be the anthem of our generation. What a perfect song.

cobert

11-02-2006, 11:43 PM

I was correct.

The end of that song feels like it goes on forever, its great.

bottlerocket

11-03-2006, 01:21 AM

Yeah, cob wmis iTT>

I'ELL NVEER SLEEP AGIAN
IL'L NVEER EVEN CLOSE YM EYSE!@A

MattSharpIsCool

11-03-2006, 01:31 AM

Amazing lyrics.

I dont really like the band much, but they do write some of the best lyrics in all of music. Maybe I'll go get a CD and give them another try.

CommieCanada

11-03-2006, 01:37 AM

i just saw them with Rise Against and Circa survive and they blew me away as usual

Permanent Solution

11-03-2006, 01:41 AM

So overrated. I had like a few month phase where I was into them, never obsessed over them though.

Lyrics are good but far from the best.

Pretty boring band overall though. Lacks replayability.

CommieCanada

11-03-2006, 02:23 AM

So overrated. I had like a few month phase where I was into them, never obsessed over them though.

Lyrics are good but far from the best.

Pretty boring band overall though. Lacks replayability.

dont believe this man's lies

Permanent Solution

11-03-2006, 02:26 AM

Well I will say they had a good live show but pretty boring on album.

Nowhere near as awesome as say...Thrice :cool:

11-03-2006, 07:57 AM

ew Thrice was SO boring live.

I hated it when I saw them because I thought it was going to be awesome.

bottlerocket

11-03-2006, 08:00 AM

Vince is a dirty Mexican liar. Don't believe him at all. Thursday is amazing.

I think you find Thursday boring because you may have gotten into them too late. Full Collapse was such a revolutionary album and, fast forward like 2-3 years later, tons of bands were copying them and doing what they did so it didn't seem nearly as unique and amazing.

Food for thought...

Full Collapse is one of my favorite albums ever. It's so good.

I called the song Chris was doing, btw.

Permanent Solution

11-03-2006, 12:13 PM

Actually I don't really listen to any of the bands that do the Thursday thing, because every single one of them is boring imo.

cobert

11-03-2006, 02:54 PM

Thrice is gay, they shouldnt even be mentioned in any sentence with Thursday, except this one explaining that they shouldnt.

11-03-2006, 03:08 PM

because every single one of them is boring imo.

Like Thrice?

because seriously.

Permanent Solution

11-03-2006, 03:10 PM

Like Thrice?

because seriously.

Hahaha, Thrice has more diversity than Thursday could ever hope to.

And even with that diversity everything they release is interesting.

Triangle

11-03-2006, 03:45 PM

I like Thrice and Thursday equally.

I still haven't found another band I've liked as much as them. :(

cobert

11-03-2006, 03:54 PM

WHEN PEOPLE DIE
THEY TAKE A PIECE OF US WITH THEM
AND THE HOLES IN THE CLOUDS
ARE MINUTES PASSING
RESCIND THIS LINE
AND SEVER ALL TIES
THE SKYLINE UNFOLDS
INTO EXPLANATION

Angry Balled Fists!

11-03-2006, 03:59 PM

ive tried to really get into this band but they dont click with me.

lunchforthesky

11-03-2006, 06:24 PM

what does everyone think of a city by the light divided.

anyone know what there planning to do next. are they making another album or is that it?

cobert

11-03-2006, 06:29 PM

Well its kind of soon to be asking questions about a new album, this ones only a few months old.

ACBTLD is tied with Waiting as their second best album. Maybe tied, I think I might like Waiting a wee little bit more. However, "We Will Overcome" and "Autumn Leaves Revisited" might be some of their best songs.

11-03-2006, 06:40 PM

Hahaha, Thrice has more diversity than Thursday could ever hope to.

And even with that diversity everything they release is interesting.

ew are you kidding.

on each album it sounds likehalf the songs are filler ffs

lunchforthesky

11-03-2006, 06:41 PM

i thnk we will overcome is the worst song on ACBTLD.

my favourites would probably be running from the rain, telegraphy avenue kiss and sugar in the sacrament. i liked the slower sound they went for, as well as the use of keys and synths. Waiting has moments of brilliance, especially lyrically but it doesnt touch full collapse.

with war all the time every song is still great but it just seems more obvious than their other releases. it was more commercial but not in a way that thursday were selling out or adapting their sound for the mainstream. its still a great album.

jet black new year is obviously a classic too. the countdown at the end is just amazing.

11-03-2006, 06:49 PM

How Long is the Night and Dying In New Brunswick are the sickest songs.

UIAC is pretty sick too, obviously, as it's their most popular song.

Mute Print

11-03-2006, 07:05 PM

ONE BREATH, ONE STEP COULD KNOCK IT ALL DOWN!

Band rules. I'm seeing them in two weeks.

11-03-2006, 07:07 PM

wif who

Permanent Solution

11-03-2006, 07:22 PM

ew are you kidding.

on each album it sounds likehalf the songs are filler ffs

that's so wrong.

you suck at music.

CommieCanada

11-03-2006, 07:34 PM

ACBTLD is amazing. all of their albums rock my stereo often.

Triangle

11-03-2006, 07:34 PM

Sep

11-03-2006, 07:51 PM

Dying In New Brunswick is my fav song by them. Followed by Asleep In The Chapel and Steps Ascending.

11-03-2006, 07:54 PM

that's so wrong.

you suck at music.

you pick bad bands to be a fanboy of

nub

Permanent Solution

11-03-2006, 07:56 PM

you pick bad bands to be a fanboy of

nub

you pick bad bands to listen to period.

cobert

11-03-2006, 09:52 PM

i thnk we will overcome is the worst song on ACBTLD.

We Will Overcome no, but Autumn Leaves.. perhaps.

You guys are crazy "We Will Overcome" is great. So is "At This Velocity", for that matter, I almost forgot about that one.

WATT was kind of just okay, it had a few great tracks on it, but I skip over a lot of it when I listen.

Mute Print

11-04-2006, 10:38 AM

wif who
It's a co-headlining tour with Rise Against. I think Billy Talent and Circa Survive are opening.

11-04-2006, 11:57 AM

It's a co-headlining tour with Rise Against. I think Billy Talent and Circa Survive are opening.

eww

RA is cool though.

lunchforthesky

11-04-2006, 02:01 PM

You guys are crazy "We Will Overcome" is great. So is "At This Velocity", for that matter, I almost forgot about that one.

WATT was kind of just okay, it had a few great tracks on it, but I skip over a lot of it when I listen.

At this velocity is great but its not as clever and intricut as the rest of that album. as i said before we will overcome just doesnt do it for me. running from the rain, sugar in the sacarament and autumn leaves revisited are my fav. but the whole album is awesome.

there isnt a single thursday song i would ever skip except maybe "this song has been brought to you by a falling bomb" but even then i would usually listen to it.

cobert

11-04-2006, 02:44 PM

At this velocity is great but its not as clever and intricut as the rest of that album. as i said before we will overcome just doesnt do it for me. running from the rain, sugar in the sacarament and autumn leaves revisited are my fav. but the whole album is awesome.

there isnt a single thursday song i would ever skip except maybe "this song has been brought to you by a falling bomb" but even then i would usually listen to it.

Are you serious?

That songs one of the better songs on that CD, half of them were kind of lame.

Triangle

11-04-2006, 03:09 PM

Yeah, half of WATT is pretty lame. The first song owns though.

lunchforthesky

11-04-2006, 05:09 PM

Are you serious?

That songs one of the better songs on that CD, half of them were kind of lame.

yeah that and signals over the air annoy me after a while. but the rest are good.

team_racket

11-04-2006, 05:21 PM

nothing thursday has ever released has been awful. i was dissapointed with the latest album though, running from the rain being my fave track off that album. i missed them a few years back when they came to my town. i was so gutted and still am as i will never see that band in a small venue ever again.

either way full collapse was the album of my youth, and an album i treasure at that. absolute passioned perfection.

Firecracker

11-04-2006, 05:25 PM

I fuccking love Thursday.

cbmartinez

11-04-2006, 06:11 PM

Thrice is gay, they shouldnt even be mentioned in any sentence with Thursday, except this one explaining that they shouldnt.

That is way wrong. And Brandon, Thrice are not boring live. They're stage presence isn't that great but they play spot on.

"We Will Overcome" is amazing, I think it's the 2nd or 3rd best track on A City...

Triangle

11-04-2006, 06:22 PM

Geoff's stage presence in smaller venues is amazing.

I touched him.. :cool:

cobert

11-04-2006, 06:56 PM

That is way wrong. And Brandon, Thrice are not boring live. They're stage presence isn't that great but they play spot on.

They just bore me in general, and I dont like the singer.

Chilly-Bean-Bop

11-04-2006, 07:27 PM

Thursday are cool. I like them.

11-04-2006, 11:25 PM

That is way wrong. And Brandon, Thrice are not boring live. They're stage presence isn't that great but they play spot on.

"We Will Overcome" is amazing, I think it's the 2nd or 3rd best track on A City...

stage presence is half of a show live.

i probably would've enjoyed it better high though.

cbmartinez

11-05-2006, 12:59 AM

yr electric faggotry is sweet

cobert

11-05-2006, 02:14 PM

haha el oh el

bottlerocket

11-06-2006, 11:08 AM

Hahaha, Thrice has more diversity than Thursday could ever hope to.

And even with that diversity everything they release is interesting.

...what?

Thursday has more talent in their left foot than Thrice has altogether. Thursday has better music, lyrics, and overall emotion in their music. Thursday is a superior band in every way.

Half of Thrice albums is just Dustin or the other guitarist playing the same riff 6 billion times over. Ex: Paper Tigers. Great song but soo boring.

Thursday's songs go through frequent tempo and key changes.

CommieCanada

11-06-2006, 12:55 PM

...what?

Thursday has more talent in their left foot than Thrice has altogether. Thursday has better music, lyrics, and overall emotion in their music. Thursday is a superior band in every way.

Half of Thrice albums is just Dustin or the other guitarist playing the same riff 6 billion times over. Ex: Paper Tigers. Great song but soo boring.

Thursday's songs go through frequent tempo and key changes.

agree

i adore Thrice, but as far as diversity goes Thursday has the upper hand on this one.

Listen to I Am the Killer, For The Workforce Drowning, Asleep in the Chapel and Love Song Writter in a row. Them ****s is diverse as junk. Thursday are wonderful

Permanent Solution

11-06-2006, 04:49 PM

...what?

Thursday has more talent in their left foot than Thrice has altogether. Thursday has better music, lyrics, and overall emotion in their music. Thursday is a superior band in every way.

Half of Thrice albums is just Dustin or the other guitarist playing the same riff 6 billion times over. Ex: Paper Tigers. Great song but soo boring.

Thursday's songs go through frequent tempo and key changes.

I disagree with that statement on every level.

And for diversity, I mean, look at Vheissu versus TAITA versus IOS versus IC. Each album has its own sound, sure, but there's a far larger variance in styles between the albums than anything Thursday has.

But hey I think Thursday is balls so don't mind me.

bottlerocket

11-06-2006, 06:39 PM

I think Thursday is the balls.

I still think you're failing to see my point here, Vince:

Thrice < Thursday

It's a fact. The Council of Trent* established this.

*Lame history joke. :(

cobert

11-06-2006, 07:06 PM

In other words, Ron Burgundy was the balls.

Permanent Solution

11-06-2006, 07:12 PM

I think Thursday is the balls.

I still think you're failing to see my point here, Vince:

Thrice < Thursday

It's a fact. The Council of Trent* established this.

*Lame history joke. :(

Whew, good thing I'm not Catholic or that would affect my opinion no doubt. :p

FungusAmngus870

11-06-2006, 10:50 PM

like the bestest band ever

bottlerocket

11-07-2006, 12:26 AM

Whew, good thing I'm not Catholic or that would affect my opinion no doubt. :p

COME BACK, MY SHEEP. COME BACK.

At least you got my lame joke. :(

Win A Rabbit

11-07-2006, 12:31 AM

I'm wearing a hoodie of theirs right now. saw them at Warped Tour for the first time, they were great.

I gotta say, though, I like Thrice just the tiniest bit more than Thursday. Not by much, but if I had to choose, I'd go with Thrice.

bottlerocket

11-07-2006, 12:46 AM

You also listen to HORSE the band so your opinion is null and void.

jaykay

People say Geoff has a bad voice. Dustin's is awful.

Permanent Solution

11-07-2006, 12:48 AM

COME BACK, MY SHEEP. COME BACK.

At least you got my lame joke. :(

Gavin I was learning European history when you were still in diapers <_<

PS I <3 Dustin's voice but anyways

I'm really sorry I compared the two bands and sparked this silly back and forth so lets all be chil and drop it kay?

kay.

bottlerocket

11-07-2006, 12:52 AM

I took AP European History when I was a sophomore in high school.

TOOL.

You're not that much older than me.

PS Vince I'm only messing with you. Do you really think I care? :lol:

Permanent Solution

11-07-2006, 12:54 AM

yeah yeah

nou

I'm ancient gavin. I can drink legally in a month and a half :eek:

no. but other people are coming into the argument so I don't know if they "get it" :-\ if we weren't playing we wouldn't IM each other about it hehe.

Win A Rabbit

11-07-2006, 01:02 AM

You also listen to HORSE the band so your opinion is null and void.
:(

/leaves and never returns.

Jack Wilson

11-07-2006, 10:19 AM

Horse the band does suck balls. But I'd have to say I like thrice more than thursday. although i wish these bands wouldn't be grouped together so often.

CommieCanada

11-07-2006, 02:30 PM

People say Geoff has a bad voice. Dustin's is awful.

im going to have to finally disagree with you gav.

Geoff cant sing. Its true, but he's a great vocalist, just not a great singer.

Dustin on the other hand can sing. really really well

team_racket

11-07-2006, 03:19 PM

thursday > thrice.

thursday is 129819048901 times more passionate than thrice. thrice is damn good, but i find i cant listen to their albums consistently as say full collapse. full collapse all the way through stays immense.

i dont care if dustin is the better singer, geoffs vocals are so much more hard hitting and passionate to me.

Angry Balled Fists!

11-07-2006, 04:55 PM

nothing can beat
THE ILLUSION OF SAFETY!!

KILL ME
KILL ME
KILL ME
KILL ME QUICKLY!

cobert

11-07-2006, 05:34 PM

gtfo lolol

I like th way its put when I say Geoff is amazing as a vocalist and not amazing as a singer. Like, you wouldnt see him singing for Iron Maiden or anything.

CommieCanada

11-08-2006, 11:18 AM

gtfo lolol

I like th way its put when I say Geoff is amazing as a vocalist and not amazing as a singer. Like, you wouldnt see him singing for Iron Maiden or anything.

exactly

he cant sing for anyone but Thursday. That's whats so great about Geoff.

bottlerocket

11-08-2006, 11:23 AM

im going to have to finally disagree with you gav.

Geoff cant sing. Its true, but he's a great vocalist, just not a great singer.

Dustin on the other hand can sing. really really well

It's true about Geoff but I don't like Dustin's voice. :(

nothing can beat
THE ILLUSION OF SAFETY!!

KILL ME
KILL ME
KILL ME
KILL ME QUICKLY!

Look at those amazing lyrics.

Illusion of Safety is an alright album, though.

Deadbolt > Identity Crisis > Kill Me Quickly

lunchforthesky

11-08-2006, 02:25 PM

dustin might be able to sing but it doesnt sound as passionate as geoff. and geoff owns dustin every time for lyrics

cbmartinez

11-08-2006, 03:01 PM

Identity Crisis > Kill Me Quickly

Wtf no

cbmartinez

11-08-2006, 03:01 PM

Dustin sings way better than Geoff too. Both live and on record.

Angry Balled Fists!

11-08-2006, 03:05 PM

lol gav.

yea deadbolt is better.

i love where idols once stood and kill me quickly lots too.

yea man i really don't like geoffs voice. i was enjoying some thursday earlier though.

Jack Wilson

11-08-2006, 04:04 PM

dustin might be able to sing but it doesnt sound as passionate as geoff. and geoff owns dustin every time for lyrics

yeah dustin might not sing as passionate but geoff deffinately doesn't pwn dustin in the lyrics department. dustin writes ****in amazing songs... the red death!?!

11-08-2006, 04:19 PM

ew. a lot of Thrice's lyrics are bad.

Then again, compared to a lot of bands I listen to, so are Thursday's.

:)

It's all about presentation anyways.

A band can have bad lyrics and still be great, or they could have amazing lyrics and suck.

generally the first applies more imo.

cbmartinez

11-08-2006, 04:43 PM

I like the lyrics alot on Vheissu and Illusion. But Thursday's lyrics take the cake.

lunchforthesky

11-08-2006, 07:36 PM

11-08-2006, 08:18 PM

I prefer more poetic (pretentious, I suppose) lyrics.

IE: Circle Takes the Square, Funeral Diner.

cbmartinez

11-08-2006, 08:31 PM

CTTS' are way too contrived at points.

Concubine

11-08-2006, 08:35 PM

War All The Time has one of the most amazing lyrics ive ever heard

cbmartinez

11-08-2006, 08:42 PM

Some of them are pretty contrived too, particularly the title track, but there's some nice lyrical work on there. Full Collapse is so pure and raw.

lunchforthesky

11-08-2006, 09:08 PM

they wont ever better full collapse. no-one will in this genre of music.

a lot of people talk about ctts in here i checked them out like two years ago and they didn't really catch me but ill have another listen later.

cobert

11-08-2006, 09:10 PM

The pieces fall it’s like a last day parade
And the fires in our streets start to rage,
So wave,
to those people who long to wave back
from the fabric of a flag that sang
loooooooove all of the time

I guess that song has contrived lyrics, but I still love them.

11-08-2006, 10:38 PM

CTTS' are way too contrived at points.

I know. It doesn't stop them from being pretty outstanding.

Same thing with Funeral Diner really.

I just like that type of lyric I suppose.

Jack Wilson

11-09-2006, 05:02 PM

Some of them are pretty contrived too, particularly the title track, but there's some nice lyrical work on there. Full Collapse is so pure and raw.

yeah, full collapse is deffinately thursday's best work. what do you guys think about the new album? i actually like it more than war all the time.

cobert

11-09-2006, 05:23 PM

Its close with Waiting as their second best, although I think Waiting is still a little bit better.

Jack Wilson

11-09-2006, 05:43 PM

waiting is their only album missing from my collection.

cobert

11-09-2006, 05:51 PM

Amazing album.

lunchforthesky

11-09-2006, 05:56 PM

waiting is their only album missing from my collection.

your missing out there its a classic.

Jack Wilson

11-09-2006, 07:57 PM

my birthdays in like two weeks. ill pick it up.

cbmartinez

11-09-2006, 11:19 PM

Waiting's not that good.

11-09-2006, 11:21 PM

Dying In New Brunswick is my favourite thursday song.

Possibly tied with one other one at times, but yeah.

Waiting is awesome. I love the cover art too.

lunchforthesky

11-10-2006, 09:13 AM

this side of brightness and ian curtis are my favourites from waiting. i admit its a little underproduced and geoffs singing is quite bad but it all adds to the music.

very few vocalists can sing well in rock music but thats part of the sound.

11-10-2006, 03:49 PM

underproduced>overproduced

sometimes bad vocals make it sound more emotional.

I certainly don't have any problems with either tbh and anyone who doesn't like an album because of production should die.

I can understand if the vocals aren't liked though, especially since they're a main point of most bands.

Jack Wilson

11-10-2006, 04:42 PM

^^
i agree i tend to like albums that are underproduced (zao's liberate te ex inferis). but production is only the icing on the cake.

Surtr

11-15-2006, 09:00 PM

Dying In New Brunswick is my favourite thursday song.

Possibly tied with one other one at times, but yeah.

Waiting is awesome. I love the cover art too.

Agreed man.

Dying In New Brunswick makes that album for me really.

**** Thursday pwn.

cobert

11-18-2006, 01:03 AM

The video for At This Velocity is on their myspace.

Surtr

11-18-2006, 10:47 AM

I'll check it out then.

Lmao, it's pretty much just Geoff rolling around in a million pieces of paper :lol:

Triangle

11-18-2006, 11:03 AM

Yeah, ha.

I didn't recognise Geoff when he was talking at the start.

cobert

11-18-2006, 12:22 PM

Geoff is so ugly and/or gay.

cobert

11-18-2006, 01:17 PM

Pause it at about 27 seconds and imagine him saying 'id hit it'.

Surtr

11-18-2006, 01:35 PM

ROFLMAO!!!!

:lol:

Man, I may never be able to listen to Thursday again, without hearing the words "I'd hit it" in my head.

cobert

11-18-2006, 01:35 PM

Get a shot of him like that and make it your avatar.

Surtr

11-18-2006, 01:38 PM

Deal.

bottlerocket

11-18-2006, 01:43 PM

This could be interesting...

Surtr

11-18-2006, 01:53 PM

:) I may do some editing in a few though..

bottlerocket

11-18-2006, 02:35 PM

Hahahahahaha.

Nice.

cobert

11-18-2006, 05:00 PM

Thats so radddd.

Surtr

11-20-2006, 06:54 AM

Lmao, it is.

Nice suggestion, I would have never caught it otherwise.

cobert

11-21-2006, 05:32 PM

I saved it so I might be able to use it as an avatar in the future.

Firecracker

11-22-2006, 04:20 PM

They played Paris In Flames in the common room the other day.
It was good.

Triangle

11-22-2006, 04:34 PM

If someone played that in my commonroom I would have been lynched. :(

Neoteric

11-27-2006, 04:28 PM

War All The Time was such a great album to me. I should really give Thursday a listen again.

bottlerocket

11-27-2006, 04:31 PM

Full Collapse > WATT

Neoteric

11-27-2006, 04:32 PM

Full Collapse > WATTI've not heard that one, I guess I'll have to take a listen then :)

11-27-2006, 04:35 PM

Waiting > WATT

Neoteric

11-27-2006, 04:40 PM

Stop confusing me, you scoundrel :p

So what album do I go for then? >___<

11-27-2006, 04:42 PM

both

(tbh probably full collapse its more liked)

Neoteric

11-27-2006, 04:45 PM

Okay then Full Collapse it is. Soulseek is being really nice to me so I hope to test it out tonight.

bottlerocket

11-27-2006, 04:51 PM

I've not heard that one, I guess I'll have to take a listen then :)

In my opinion, and it's a rather well-shared one, Full Collapse is their best work and one of the most influential "post-rock" albums in the past decade.

By "post-rock", I mean bands like Thursday and similar to them.

Neoteric

11-27-2006, 04:58 PM

In my opinion, and it's a rather well-shared one, Full Collapse is their best work and one of the most influential "post-rock" albums in the past decade.

By "post-rock", I mean bands like Thursday and similar to them.Ohh, I thought you meant today's definition of post-rock hah.

Yeah, I'm searching for it on soulseek right now.

11-27-2006, 04:59 PM

post-rock is like explosions in the sky dude

Neoteric

11-27-2006, 05:00 PM

post-rock is like explosions in the sky dudeYeah, Mogwai and stuff.

I don't really know why those bands are called post-rock as it actually means after rock.

bottlerocket

11-27-2006, 05:23 PM

Note the ""

I couldn't think of anything else to call them.

11-27-2006, 05:24 PM

GODSPEED YOU! BLACK EMPORER

lmao I can't spell emporer

Neoteric

11-27-2006, 05:31 PM

I thought Thursday were post-hardcore... or am I completely wrong on that?

bottlerocket

11-27-2006, 05:32 PM

Neoteric

11-27-2006, 05:35 PM

Ah right, I understand you. I just thought that cause I always hear Thursday being compared to bands like Thrice. I guess we can just call them rock for now then.

lunchforthesky

11-27-2006, 05:43 PM

Nah, not really.

Post-hardcore means you need to actually be a hardcore band.

Outbreak is a hardcore band. Minor Threat is a hardcore band. Modern Life is War is a (type of) hardcore band.

Thursday has no elements of hardcore that most other genres in the same "rock" pool have, really, like old school emo or pop-punk; just the fast, driven guitar parts at times.

Other than that, I see no correlation.

B, Godspeed rules. I love them. F#A# Infinity is probably in my top 20 albums right now.

someone really needs to think of name for bands like alexis, thursday, glassjaw, thrice etc.. they sound like an extension of sunny day and the otehr mid west stuff mixed with pop punk and some heavier stuff but thats kinda far fetched.

bottlerocket

11-27-2006, 05:47 PM

Thursday, Alexisonfire, and Thrice sound nothing like midwest emo.

You're telling me Cap'n Jazz, Rockets and Blue Lights, etc., influenced Thrice, Thursday, and Alexisonfire?

Nah.

11-27-2006, 05:48 PM

glassjaw is post hardcore

i suppose alexisonfire could be as well.

thursday are much too melodic in a general sense.

Triangle

11-27-2006, 05:51 PM

Hm, yeah I just call it Pop Punk. :p

Neoteric

11-27-2006, 05:55 PM

I can see the post-hardcore influence, though I do agree they have traces of pop-punk. It's probably not an argument we'll settle on.

lunchforthesky

11-27-2006, 05:58 PM

Thursday, Alexisonfire, and Thrice sound nothing like midwest emo.

You're telling me Cap'n Jazz, Rockets and Blue Lights, etc., influenced Thrice, Thursday, and Alexisonfire?

Nah.

probably not thrice and alexis but thursday were probably influenced by sunny day especially on waiting.

what i always think is stupid about the genre nazism on here is that pop punk covers a massive scope of bands even though its just a sub genre of punk. from new found glory, green day, desecendents, coheed, thursday, ramones band that sound nothing like each other.

where as emo covers a really small scope of bands like embrace, indian summer etc.. who sound very similar.

why is it that pop punk is so broad a genre and emo is really narrow. pop punk can have progression and change (ramones to new found glory) where as emo doesnt have any progression, even the obvious one to bands like sunny day, mineral and early jimmy eat world isnt allowed.

bottlerocket

11-27-2006, 06:23 PM

Emo has no progression?

Have you ever even listened to emo? Emo is a constantly evolving genre.

SDRE --> Indian Summer --> Saetia --> CTTS --> Ampere

That's progression if I ever did see.

cbmartinez

11-27-2006, 06:26 PM

SDRE is not emo.

bottlerocket

11-27-2006, 06:28 PM

They started it, is what I'm saying.

11-27-2006, 06:29 PM

um more like embrace/moss icon/rites of spring/still life

sdre didnt start emo

bottlerocket

11-27-2006, 06:30 PM

I always confuse SDRE with RoS.

My bad, haha.

lunchforthesky

11-27-2006, 06:32 PM

Emo has no progression?

Have you ever even listened to emo? Emo is a constantly evolving genre.

SDRE --> Indian Summer --> Saetia --> CTTS --> Ampere

That's progression if I ever did see.

i guess. i listen to those bands except ampere who are okay but dont do much for me.

still why is it that pop punk contains bands that have absolutely no similarities eg. decendents and thursday/coheed but all emo bands are not the same but quite similar

cbmartinez

11-27-2006, 06:34 PM

I always confuse SDRE with RoS.

My bad, haha.

Yeah, cause they sound so similar, right?

bottlerocket

11-27-2006, 06:35 PM

I have no idea, to be totally honest.

C'est la vie.

Chris, it's because of the name. I just associate them together a lot. I have no idea why.

lunchforthesky

11-27-2006, 07:58 PM

thursday just aren't pop punk in my opinion. that implies that there sound is a combination of pop and punk which thursday's isnt at all. there is no punk in thursday. where are the simple three/four chord songs?

neither are they pop. yes they are at times catchy especially on full collapse but dragonforce are catchy and their not in anyway pop. pop music does not have a monopoly on catchiness, some classical music could be catchy but its not pop. meither is thursday quite light and easy on the ear like pop music is. whether modern pop or the beatles. you can see elements of the beatles and elements of real punk bands in green day, blink 182, new found glory. but none of this is in thursday.

im not saying they are emo because they have only a thin, passing relation to hardcore music, although i think they are closer to this than pop-punk. i can hear a closer link to circle takes the square and saetia than there is to blink 182 or green day. especially on the heavier songs; at this velocity, for the workforce drowning, between rupture and rapture etc...

if glassjaw are post-hardcore (i dont know if this is accepted by everyone) then thursday's sound is closest to this but more melodic.

11-27-2006, 08:03 PM

lunchforthesky

11-27-2006, 08:04 PM

LMFAO

Do you actually listen to these bands?

Or are you mildly deaf?

Any other problems I'm forgetting?

at this velocity sounds more like same shade of concrete than it does to any blink 182 song

11-27-2006, 08:07 PM

at this velocity sounds more like same shade of concrete than it does to any blink 182 song

one song does not define a bands sound.

Thursday's new music is even less similar to emo than their old music.

I honestly have no idea where you're coming from.

lunchforthesky

11-27-2006, 08:15 PM

one song does not define a bands sound.

Thursday's new music is even less similar to emo than their old music.

I honestly have no idea where you're coming from.

i do not think thursday play emotional hardcore at all.

but neither do they play pop punk. so many bands get thrown into pop punk that sound nothing at all like each other. how on earth do coheed and cambria sound like any pop punk bands. there music is way too complex to be even remotely punk. punk mixed with pop does not sound like welcome home or any thursday song, including concealer or there other catchier songs. if anyhting they should be popcore (i guess a mix of pop and hardcore although those genres are so different it seems stupid) except there not crap like grade

11-27-2006, 08:19 PM

i do not think thursday play emotional hardcore at all.

but neither do they play pop punk. so many bands get thrown into pop punk that sound nothing at all like each other. how on earth do coheed and cambria sound like any pop punk bands. there music is way too complex to be even remotely punk. punk mixed with pop does not sound like welcome home or any thursday song, including concealer or there other catchier songs. if anyhting they should be popcore (i guess a mix of pop and hardcore although those genres are so different it seems stupid) except there not crap like grade

Popcore is not a genre.

They play more pop-rock than pop-punk, but there's no pop-rock forum is there.

Punk music can still be midly complex, and you can't believe Thursday plays extremely complex music because they don't.

Coheed has songs that very much do fit into the pop-punk genre.

Pop-punk does not have to be simple.

cobert

11-27-2006, 08:24 PM

There is a pop-rock forum, where have you been?

I dont even know what Thursday are, but I dont know if pop-punk is fitting.

11-27-2006, 08:24 PM

LMFAO seriously

:upset:

lunchforthesky

11-27-2006, 08:27 PM

Popcore is not a genre.

They play more pop-rock than pop-punk, but there's no pop-rock forum is there.

Punk music can still be midly complex, and you can't believe Thursday plays extremely complex music because they don't.

Coheed has songs that very much do fit into the pop-punk genre.

Pop-punk does not have to be simple.

the only coheed songs i can think of like that are favor house atlantic and devil in jersey city, particularly the former, but even then all that lead work in the verses and the high singing, its so far from the normal pop punk singing from any era.

but if pop punk can take in bands and songs that have almost no resemblance to the founders of the genre then why is emo so narrow? why isnt it allowed to progress to include bands not much like its forebearers

thursday's music isnt extremely complex but it is more so than any pop punk band i can think of. and thrice? how are they pop-punk save for the song artist in the ambulance.

Surtr

11-27-2006, 08:50 PM

GENRE NAZISM ENDS HERE

Thank you.

lunchforthesky

11-27-2006, 08:53 PM

if we didnt talk about genres it would be the death of these boards.

Surtr

11-28-2006, 06:53 AM

Yeah, well shut the **** up lol.

I win, you lose, and now that's sorted out.

Problem solved.

lol :)

Neoteric

11-28-2006, 10:35 AM

Yeah, discussing the genres like this is going nowhere as we all aren't going to agree eh?

11-28-2006, 07:36 PM

lmao.

thrice has tons of pop-punk elements. not many bands are strictly one genre. the genre itself isn't even strictly one genre.

people who listen to emo are elitist, we don't want any lame bands fagging it up.

Jack Wilson

11-28-2006, 07:52 PM

11-28-2006, 08:00 PM

why thank you

I pride myself in being an elitist prick.

bottlerocket

11-28-2006, 08:35 PM

We're born to be elitist. We practically get boners by mentioning bands you've never heard of.

Surtr

11-28-2006, 09:02 PM

We're born to be elitist. We practically get boners by mentioning bands you've never heard of.

Elitism is never truly appreciated is it? Whenever you talk about an AWESOME band that NO ONE has heard of, people are always like.."Stfu, you don't know anything about music"..I find it has a very negative effect on my boner from knowing bands people have never heard of. :(

punkerdan

11-28-2006, 09:03 PM

Surtr

11-28-2006, 09:10 PM

when people ask me what kind of music I listen to, I dont **** around with genres. One time I was working at this resteraunt and I was wearing a Death Cab For Cutie T-shirt and a cook asked me what it was and I told him it was a band and he was like oh cool what kind of music is it, and I tried to explain it, then I just said ´Its pretty much just slightly confuzzled sea lion music´ That´s the easiest way I can sum it up.

Your 666th post ftw.

And to be honest..You fail at genre naming, so it's good you don't actually make it look like your trying, otherwise people would be worried.

11-28-2006, 10:22 PM

yo homie im so hardcore i raped your dog and stole your christmas tree while i was doing it what now

that what i would've said

cbmartinez

11-28-2006, 10:25 PM

Thursday is post-hardcore/indie for argument's sake. They definitely don't have enough pop-punk in them to be considered pop-punk.

Neoteric

11-29-2006, 08:26 AM

Thursday is post-hardcore/indie for argument's sake. They definitely don't have enough pop-punk in them to be considered pop-punk.That's exactly what I thought.

Okay, genre discussion over!

lunchforthesky

11-29-2006, 04:23 PM

Im debating whether its worth £25 ($45 or so) to see Thursday play for 30 minutes supporting My Chemical Romance with almost no crowd reception even though Thursday are my favourite band.

Neoteric

11-29-2006, 04:25 PM

I'd say... no?

Surtr

11-29-2006, 04:25 PM

Im debating whether its worth £25 ($45 or so) to see Thursday play for 30 minutes supporting My Chemical Romance with almost no crowd reception even though Thursday are my favourite band.
Make a deal with the people there, tell them you'll pay them $85 if you get to watch Thursday and get a free throw of a large metal chair at ANYONE in MCR.

They make an extra $40, and if you're a good throw, we'll no longer have to suffer from the sounds of MCR.

You'd be a hero man, a hero.

lunchforthesky

11-29-2006, 04:29 PM

Make a deal with the people there, tell them you'll pay them $85 if you get to watch Thursday and get a free throw of a large metal chair at ANYONE in MCR.

They make an extra $40, and if you're a good throw, we'll no longer have to suffer from the sounds of MCR.

You'd be a hero man, a hero.

I would love to especially if i hit gerard or either guitarist the other guys are too boring to hate.

But i dont think the chairs come off to easy :/ and id have a hard time bringing my own.

11-29-2006, 04:31 PM

I went to a 40 dollar show to see thursday and they didn't even play so eh

Surtr

11-29-2006, 04:34 PM

I would love to especially if i hit gerard or either guitarist the other guys are too boring to hate.

But i dont think the chairs come off to easy :/ and id have a hard time bringing my own.

They'd obviously supply the chair.

And yeah, go for Gerard. I think a chair to the face might solve that problem.

11-29-2006, 04:35 PM

ew he looks so gross now all white and ****

Neoteric

11-29-2006, 04:36 PM

Get Gerard, his ego has inflated so much since they got big.

Triangle

12-01-2006, 12:21 PM

I don't think you should go. Half the experience is the crowd interaction, singing along.. etc.

lunchforthesky

12-01-2006, 03:55 PM

im not going to go, ill come home disapointed and annoyed if i do so theres no point hopefully they will play some solo shows but i doubt it.

team_racket

12-01-2006, 04:03 PM

Im debating whether its worth £25 ($45 or so) to see Thursday play for 30 minutes supporting My Chemical Romance with almost no crowd reception even though Thursday are my favourite band.

i was in that position. i missed them the last time they played a small venue up my way. if i tried to see them lately, i would have to sit through so much s'hit, being the taste of chaos tour and all. guess my dreams of seeing them in a small venue again are nil.

lunchforthesky

12-01-2006, 04:10 PM

i was in that position. i missed them the last time they played a small venue up my way. if i tried to see them lately, i would have to sit through so much s'hit, being the taste of chaos tour and all. guess my dreams of seeing them in a small venue again are nil.

the venue i saw them on for the city by a light divided tour was only around 1500 people so that was quite small. it was pretty good anyway. no kids :thumb:

team_racket

12-01-2006, 04:24 PM

again a missed opportunity on my part :rolleyes: haha

so f'ucking stoked i didnt catch them when they rolled through newport in 2003. venue is fairly small too.

Triangle

12-07-2006, 02:16 PM

the venue i saw them on for the city by a light divided tour was only around 1500 people so that was quite small. it was pretty good anyway. no kids :thumb:

Did you go to the Oxford Zodiac show? That was a sick gig.

lunchforthesky

12-07-2006, 02:24 PM

nah manchester academy. im from the north.

Cadaveric

12-07-2006, 04:48 PM

Thursday is great. Everyone will probably disagree, but I think that War All The Time is a better album than Full Collapse. The new album is decent as well, but it's probably my least favorite.

lunchforthesky

12-07-2006, 04:53 PM

Full Collapse owns every time imo but your welcome to your opinion.

Concubine

12-07-2006, 06:09 PM

Thursday is great. Everyone will probably disagree, but I think that War All The Time is a better album than Full Collapse. The new album is decent as well, but it's probably my least favorite.

dude, Full Collapse > City By The Light Divided > Waiting > War All The Time

I like WATT too, but it has a couple of weak songs

Surtr

12-07-2006, 06:43 PM

No way people.

Full Collapse > War All The Time > Waiting > ...By The Light Divided

cobert

12-07-2006, 06:47 PM

Full Collapse >>>>>>> some other albums > Waiting = ACBTLD >>>> some other albums > WATT

bottlerocket

12-08-2006, 10:29 AM

Thursday is great. Everyone will probably disagree, but I think that War All The Time is a better album than Full Collapse. The new album is decent as well, but it's probably my least favorite.

:amaze:

gtfo

:p

Your opinion is your opinion but Full Collapse is a better album in every aspect; better music, better lyrics, better overall band.

Full Collapse > Waiting > 5 Stories Falling > WATT > City by the Light Divided

cobert

12-08-2006, 12:53 PM

Ugh, Gav, you're so gay for not liking the new album as much as you should.

cbmartinez

12-08-2006, 12:55 PM

5 stories falling isnt better than WATT, it's not that bad.

Cadaveric

12-08-2006, 01:20 PM

12-08-2006, 01:37 PM

Full Collapse > Waiting > 5 Stories Falling > WATT > City by the Light Divided
haha this

team_racket

12-08-2006, 02:12 PM

I hate you guys.haha. Maybe I just need to listen to Full Collapse more. The first time I heard it was around a year ago and I didn't like it that much. I've popped in a few more times since then and my opinion didn't change. I'll give it another chance though.

nice avatar :thumb: .its worth giving fc time. it is an absolute classic. watt was nowhere near as bad people say it is.

cbmartinez

12-08-2006, 02:23 PM

Man, the A City By The Light Divided demos are amazing. The demo of "Telegraph Avenue Kiss" is way better then the actual song.

12-08-2006, 02:30 PM

all the demos are better than the album versions imo

I was pretty dissapointed with that album after that.

bottlerocket

12-08-2006, 02:38 PM

Ditto.

Thursday grew and changed too much for their new album to be anything like what I wanted. I wanted another Full Collapse, even though I knew it just couldn't happen ever again.

team_racket

12-08-2006, 02:42 PM

i felt exactly the same way. the only song i enjoyed was running from the rain.

cbmartinez

12-09-2006, 03:31 PM

all the demos are better than the album versions imo

I was pretty dissapointed with that album after that.

LOL SHUT UP

lunchforthesky

12-09-2006, 04:08 PM

i think the album is way better than the demos. far more polished.

plus some of the songs that werent demos are the most amazing songs. running from the rain, we will overcome, lovesong writer, sugar in the sacrament.

i still think a city by the light divided is a one of my favourite albums, its jsut not as good as full collapse, for any other band it would be a masterpiece.