Big Muff Pi

[JonM]

I just purchased this renowned stompbox, and I can't get it to sound good. I'm playing on a Fender active Jazz through a Gallien-Krueger 2x10, and low notes sound like ****. Anybody use this pedal for bass, and if so, how do you like to set it?

[rh15951]

Cut mids, boost bass and treble on amp. I use an equal amount of sustain and tone on the pedal (Russian).

[JonM]

Cool. I've got the American. Will that make a difference tonally?

[rh15951]

Never used one so I don't know. Probably not a significant difference.

[Mr. Pickle]

i find the russian to be more gritty and and not as 'smooth' as the nyc. i prefer the russian.

[JonM]

I've heard that the Russian is marginally better for bass, but I feel like it's probably something that can be compensated for. Let me try this suggestion right now.

[Polyamarous]

The russian has a lower frequency response, making it better suited to bass, and is cheaper :p

[JonM]

Yeah but only $20, so the American pays for itself in batteries really fast.

Thanks for the tone advice, rh. That sounds a lot better.

[British Kid]

i usually keep my amp EQ flat, or with boosted mids, then set the tone on the big muff (USA) between 7o'clock and 12 o'clock. sustain is usually pretty low and volume is set to match bass volume.

[Mr. Pickle]

my russian is true bypass...?

[Akira]

my russian is true bypass...?

Only when it's turned off though.

[Mr. Pickle]

hence the word bypass. it was directed at the "it pays for itself in batteries" statement. i guess i don't understand what he/she was trying to say.

[Afrokid]

edit found one

[Mr. Pickle]

majority of the time, russian = black, nyc = silver.

[JonM]

hence the word bypass. it was directed at the "it pays for itself in batteries" statement. i guess i don't understand what he/she was trying to say.I meant that you can plug in the American one so you don't have to use batteries, so the $20 difference is made up quickly.

[Mr. Pickle]

i have mine hooked to a power supply.

[Jeronimofesto]

i have mine hooked to a power supply.

My Russian is too. Pretty quick and easy mod that saves tons of money in batteries. With a fairly flat eq on the amp and bass I put the sustain at about 10 o'clock and the tone at 2 or even 3 o'clock.

[Mr. Pickle]

i didn't mod it, i have a battery clip converter.

[BrodieBear]

Set your EQ up, solo the bridge pickup, max out the tone and sustain on the muff, go mental, come back on here, and try and tell me it's not the most vicious distorted tone you've used. i dare ya!

in all honesty, thats what i use live, maybe cut the tone back a teensy bit, and it's just so much fun it's unreal. people just don't expect it!

[rh15951]

Set your EQ up, solo the bridge pickup, max out the tone and sustain on the muff, go mental, come back on here, and try and tell me it's not the most vicious distorted tone you've used. i dare ya!

in all honesty, thats what i use live, maybe cut the tone back a teensy bit, and it's just so much fun it's unreal. people just don't expect it!

Too much "tone", it just sounds empty...

[WHoRRID]

^ thats why i bi-amp with it :D

thats actually the pedal that made me start biamping. for exactly that reason. sounds amazing now. i can make it as gritty as i want and still have some clarity and good clean punch

[MasterofBass]

I just purchased this renowned stompbox, and I can't get it to sound good. I'm playing on a Fender active Jazz through a Gallien-Krueger 2x10, and low notes sound like ****. Anybody use this pedal for bass, and if so, how do you like to set it?


I bought that last summer expecting a good sound to come from it. And after turning every possible combination of knobs on my amp, bass, and that piece of crap I ended up sending it back to musiciansfriend because i could get my Boss ODB-3 to sound more like Cliff than that thing. I just didn't like a sound that came from that so I sent it back and I got my money back.

[d-basser]

has anyone tried the metal muff? is it any better with is eq settings and all?

[rh15951]

I bought that last summer expecting a good sound to come from it. And after turning every possible combination of knobs on my amp, bass, and that piece of crap I ended up sending it back to musiciansfriend because i could get my Boss ODB-3 to sound more like Cliff than that thing. I just didn't like a sound that came from that so I sent it back and I got my money back.

That's not the fault of the pedal... It's your fault because you are not Cliff Burton...

[josh3184]

^ thats why i bi-amp with it :D

thats actually the pedal that made me start biamping. for exactly that reason. sounds amazing now. i can make it as gritty as i want and still have some clarity and good clean punch

Que?

Is that where you have 2 amps with only one distorted or what?

[Worrpigs]

i had a russian muff too. i didnt like it either, i sold mine. sounded great on my strat though.

[Polyamarous]

Que?

Is that where you have 2 amps with only one distorted or what?

Its where you send the lows from the head to one cab, and the highs to another, but it can be with up to 4 cabs, and you can use separate heads and have as many cabs as you want handling different frequencies of EQ.

You can also apply different effects/effects loops to seperate channels, having one clean and one distorted, ala Timm Y C.

[josh3184]

oooh kinky

tnx