Need a new straight stand, please help.

[the_pure_drummer]

I need a new straight stand after having my old leedy one for over 1 and a half years. Its the one that came with the kit so i didnt even expect it to last that long! Its about to brake very soon so im need of a new one.

I want a high end one so it will last me in the long run.

My options:

Dw 9000
Dw 5000
Tama roadpro
or something pearl.

Im leaning towards dw because everyone says there hardware is the ****.

I have a much larger income now and im taking down to the store over £100 or so, so most things are possible!

I also wanted to ask who the authors of the new breed and bass control are?

I want to buy those two books and a stand.

Please tell me opinions on the stands and which ones to buy.
Also if you can help wiht the authors it would be much apreciated.

Cheers :thumb:

[maniac0796]

Tama roadpro all the way.

Also look at premier 6000 series. Some high quality hardware for low prices.

[Drum Phil]

I'd go with a convertible boom stand. Never know when you might need the boom.

In which case i'd go DW5000. 9000 is overkill IMO.

[the_pure_drummer]

Yes i want a straight/boom stand, sorry i forgot to mention that.

But i like the memory locks on the dw's and they look very sturdy and they are meant to be the **** so im thinking Dw alot. I can easily afford the 5000 or 9000 so its really just opinions now please help anyone.

[Drum Phil]

Like i said, 5000 is easily enough. 9000 is too much overkill.

[the_pure_drummer]

Thanks phil.

By the way what is your opinion on the overkill on it.

[maniac0796]

The reality is that the roadpro, and the dw's will be of the same quality, so it's generally just matter of which ones cheapest in this case, and the probability is that it'll be the roadpro.

Roadpro's don't have memory locks but i don't see how they can work because if you want to put the cymbal stand down you're going to lose your marker anyway.

[Zildjian]

Go tama roadpro, cheaper, never failed on me

[pitchfork]

Dw 9000
Thats your best option.
In hierarchy my opinion is:
9000
Roadpro
5000
pearl

I like the top end mapex stands personally becuase they are durable, fairly priced and adjustable.

[Pleaseme]

Just go to the shop and take a look at some of the stands there. Set some up (not just the ones you're thinking about getting), and really test 'em. Push them around, check the boom length, and test the screw clamp quality.

It's the only way you'll be able to decide which stand you'd like the most, and you might find that there's a stand for cheaper than a DW or Tama, but of just as good quality.

Hope that helps.

Edit: Like Pitchfork said, definately consider Mapex gear. It's pretty cheap, and you get ball and socket joints on the end of the boom arm, it's very adjustable.

[Josiah]

I'd say DW5k.

(9k is totally overkill and won't last as long. At a particular point, the more fanc stuff is, the more stuff there is to break and go wrong.

TS considering the ultra low quality kit you play - I'd think about about saving for some decent drums and cymbals before buying the most expensive(not the best) hardware you can. OR for other expensies, such as sticks, heads, lessons.. etc

[ringworm]

For $42 bucks, you can't beat DW800, for $1 more, you can get a convertable in case you need a boom later

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Pacific-Drums-by-DW-PD-800-Straight-Cymbal-Stand?sku=443552

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Pacific-Drums-by-DW-PD-800-Boom-Cymbal-Stand?sku=443546

[ant_182]

I wouldnt buy anything 9000. Just pointless IMO. However I think Roadpro gear is good. But defianately see what you can afford and compare everything!


-Ant-

[the_pure_drummer]

Ok thanks alot everyone! Ill go down and setup a few, see what i like and buy it. Can anyone help out with the authors of new breed and bass control?

[Drum Phil]

Gary Chester and Colin Bailey respectively.

[crolfe1]

Trust me, the DW 9000 is not overkill. I own every piece of 9000 series hardware out there (aside from the lifter and conga stands) and can honestly say its much better than the 5000. Here is why...

-Ever try to adjust the memory locks on the DW 5000? They are very hard to move around and the boom arm doesn't even have a memory lock.
-The cymbal tilter has no teeth, you'll always get that cymbal EXACTLY where you want it, and theres a lock to secure it in place.
-Extra heavy duty tubing insures rock solid stability and road worthiness.
-The boom arms are very long (18" I think).
-Memory locks are everywhere: the 2 vertical sections, on the boom arm, and even on the tripod base. I've never had a DW 9000 fail me yet.

Overkill, for some (if you never move your kit around), for me its been worth every penny.

[oliv_da_skinmasher]

no i really is over kill. and overpriced. The yamaha CS845's are what i use and they are probly some of the strongest convertable stands i've seen. so i'd say go for one of them.

[Drum Phil]

The pearl BC2000 has memory locks on both extendable sections, the tripod base and 2 on the boom arm. As well as the gyrolock tilter and a counterweight.

[ant_182]

I've never had a DW 9000 fail me yet

I have NEVER had a ddrum peice of hardware fail me! Its even beaten up dads car! I didnt mean that I wouldn't ever buy one, I meant in his posision! And mine at the minute! Sorry if people misunderstood. However I would still buy other stuff of the same quality for cheaper, so who knows!


-Ant-

[Josiah]

Trust me, the DW 9000 is not overkill. I own every piece of 9000 series hardware out there (aside from the lifter and conga stands) and can honestly say its much better than the 5000. Here is why...

-Ever try to adjust the memory locks on the DW 5000? They are very hard to move around and the boom arm doesn't even have a memory lock.
-The cymbal tilter has no teeth, you'll always get that cymbal EXACTLY where you want it, and theres a lock to secure it in place.
-Extra heavy duty tubing insures rock solid stability and road worthiness.
-The boom arms are very long (18" I think).
-Memory locks are everywhere: the 2 vertical sections, on the boom arm, and even on the tripod base. I've never had a DW 9000 fail me yet.

Overkill, for some (if you never move your kit around), for me its been worth every penny.

I believe the 5000 has all of those features.

My 5000 snare stand has everyone sincle one of those features.


I've never had my SoundPercusion stands fail on me yet, and they've been around a LOT longer then 9000 series. Never had my 5000 gear fail on me, again been around a lot longer.

[the_pure_drummer]

So....... Gary chester= The new breed
Colin Bailey= Bass control

[Drum Phil]

Yes. :)

[goalieman92]

look at some yamaha stuff. I got one of the lowr snare stands and that think could go though a nuclear explosion and survive. That's going to be all my hardware.(besides what I have already)

[the_pure_drummer]

Thanks guys!

[Talos]

Mapex make good hardware at cheap prices.

[the_pure_drummer]

I actually have a mapex boom stand which i dont like really im gonna replace it with a dw 5k pretty soon also.

[the_pure_drummer]

Maniac and i were just talking on msn and he just thought, that memory locks are a gimmick because you have to unscrew them and put them to the top of the stand to put the stand down so you loose your place anyway so whats the point!!!!!

[Chris]

Get Yamaha.

The 800 series is cheap, and just as good, if not better then DW stuff.

The only downside is that they dosent come with memory locks, but they dont cost to much.

[maniac0796]

WTF is all this about memory locks.

I know what a memory lock is, but i don't see the conecept behind them on cymbals stands. Surely you pull the lock down to wherever the stand sits, to mark your place for future set-up. Well, thats all good and whatev, but when you want to put the stand down, you'd have to bring the memory lock up to the top right?, losing your place....

[Drum Phil]

Spose you'd have to remove each section from the tubing.

It'd be like a jigsaw.

Thats why "RACKS FTW"

Anyway, whats wrong with gay stands? Homophobe.

[White Riot!]

racks are for people who play pearl drums

[Drum Phil]

Good job i dont play pearl innit.

Nor do i plan to.

[oliv_da_skinmasher]

racks are for people who play pearl drums

How does that work lol

[White Riot!]

because you practically need a rack to mount rack toms with most pearl kits

[oliv_da_skinmasher]

true. I'm not goin in for a rack tho lol

[Drum Phil]

Yeah i'd never get a rack me.





Oh wait.....

[oliv_da_skinmasher]

lol. Nah I dont like racks personally

[Schmudiments]

gibraltar ftw!

seriously. gibraltar cymbal stands are the shiz. helluva lot cheaper than any DW hardware too.

no memory locks. who cares. memory locks are a waste 90% of the time IMO.

i use gibraltar 5500 (i think thats the number) and tama roadpro. theyre the best. i wouldnt spend another $30+ dollars just to get two consonants stamped on my stands.

[White Riot!]

the 6600 onwards have mem locks

[White Riot!]

also you can buy the gibraltar mem locks for your 5600's for $2 a pop or so

[CombatWombat3]

Man....I have a Pacific 800 series stand...that is one hell of a stand. It was really cheap, but DAMN. Right now it's holding an 18" crash, a 12" tom with a clamp and pearl mount, and a 12" splash and a grabber arm, and that thing is not budging one bit. Remember, you can buy memory locks for pretty cheap.

I dunno, I'm kind of a minimalist on hardware. I'm not too rough on my gear, and I've discovered that even the cheap stuff is hella strong. I have a sonor 200 series straight stand, pretty low end, and even that is holding a massive 20" ride an 18" crash w/arm and a 13" tom w/clamp and mount. It's not going anywhere anytime soon. Really, I think even DW 5000 is overkill.

[ian1988]

Roadpro is all you need. Sturdy, moderately priced and built like a tank.

[Panopticon]

Trust me, the DW 9000 is not overkill. I own every piece of 9000 series hardware out there (aside from the lifter and conga stands) and can honestly say its much better than the 5000. Here is why...

-Ever try to adjust the memory locks on the DW 5000? They are very hard to move around and the boom arm doesn't even have a memory lock.
-The cymbal tilter has no teeth, you'll always get that cymbal EXACTLY where you want it, and theres a lock to secure it in place.
-Extra heavy duty tubing insures rock solid stability and road worthiness.
-The boom arms are very long (18" I think).
-Memory locks are everywhere: the 2 vertical sections, on the boom arm, and even on the tripod base. I've never had a DW 9000 fail me yet.

Overkill, for some (if you never move your kit around), for me its been worth every penny.

well...tbh...i've never had a dixon or trak stand fail me yet either:smash:

Seriously...why not get a convertible trak stand...unless your mounting literally a thousand things off it, you dont really need much else...it's a hella sturdy stand.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b379/enemytopublic/HPIM0491.jpg

[maniac0796]

I have an old tama stand from the 80's, and that thing is ****ing solid. It holds up my 18" paiste 1000 powercrash + my 12" tom when i want it to.

[pitchfork]

My dixon boom stand from my first kit couldn't do that, it would've fallen over.
Its why i use a straight stand for my ride now.

[maniac0796]

It might of been the fact that you need to put a leg under the boom arm to stop the stand falling over

[Panopticon]

well...tbh...i've never had a dixon or trak stand fail me yet either:smash:

Seriously...why not get a convertible trak stand...unless your mounting literally a thousand things off it, you dont really need much else...it's a hella sturdy stand.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b379/enemytopublic/HPIM0491.jpg

To emphasize the strength of that stand (it's a trak btw, but i had a dixon that was just as strong) that is a 20" K HEAVY ride. ie. it's very heavy.

[oliv_da_skinmasher]

Thats one mother of a stand.

[Panopticon]

yeah it only cost me $30.

[oliv_da_skinmasher]

SWEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!!

Thats nice man, my yamaha stands are like £59 but there like the best in the shop near me.

[pitchfork]

It might of been the fact that you need to put a leg under the boom arm to stop the stand falling over

Tried it, that was truely **** hardware lol

[Drum Phil]

Pimp that stand yo

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/rancid_punk/Cats/gangsta.jpg

[ofDooM]

Yamaha stands are top-notch.

A friend of mine had 2 floors, a ride, crash, and china on one stand. a bit wobbly, but it still held fine. the magic of the triple tom holder and a few clamps.

[Drum Phil]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/rancid_punk/Cats/trash.jpg

[pitchfork]

Even the single braced stands are solid as a rock with yamaha.

Like your cats today eh phil?

[the_pure_drummer]

Lol ^^^

[Drum Phil]

Like your cats today eh phil?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/rancid_punk/Cats/Treachery.jpg

[TTTSNB]

Get a boom stand? Straight stands are kinda pointless.

[oliv_da_skinmasher]

Yeah no where near as adjustable. Convertable ones are ya best bet.

[the_pure_drummer]

Yeh im definatly gonna get a convertable i just sorta meant crash stand when i said a straight stand.