PDA

View Full Version : Obscure 80s Hardcore


Excursions
10-14-2006, 05:55 PM
Apparently that's all I listen to so discuss your favourites.

Kill The Hostages

"This is the group I could not leave off, a group so obscure that most punk rock buffs would just kind of give you a blank look if you brought it up. Kill the Hostages never played live, and only released one single, which was limited to around 200 copies. KTH obtained a coupon for a free recording session at a Florida flea market, and laid down an eight-song demo from which they pressed their single "Mutant." "Mutant" had a hand-penciled cover, and the music was other-worldly. Nothing like it has ever been, nor ever will be made. The vocals are incomprehensible screams; the lyrics will forever be lost, but they had something to do with creating a Frankenstein-like monster and throwing it a dance party. This band's demo is definitely one that should be on bootleg." - Perfect Sound Forever

Rat Cafeteria
The Spanish Dogs
Depression (Not really obscure but cool band)
STD

Bands like that. And no, don't ask me to let you download this stuff off me on soulseek, I won't let you.

pixiesfanyo
10-14-2006, 05:58 PM
Excursions, please leave the site.

Excursions
10-14-2006, 06:00 PM
pixiesfanyo, capitalise your name.

pedro durruti
10-14-2006, 06:08 PM
Drunk Injuns are pretty good, I don't know if they're obscure enough for you though Adam

Excursions
10-14-2006, 06:09 PM
They are pretty good. I approve Peter.

Liebensaft
10-14-2006, 06:15 PM
These bands are all either too obscure or too hardcore for me, sorry.

Times Ten
10-14-2006, 09:03 PM
STD is awesome.

Check out Stark Raving Mad, YDI, Missbrukarna, and Neos.

Feel The Darkness
10-14-2006, 09:06 PM
Drunk Injuns rule. Oh, and Hated Youth ruled, too. I managed to do an interview with their singer earlier in the year. Such awesome stories from that guy.

Aus Rotten
10-14-2006, 09:22 PM
Stark Raving Mad :thumb:

Anxious
10-14-2006, 09:41 PM
What makes them different from other more popular hardcore bands?

Excursions
10-14-2006, 09:48 PM
STD is awesome.

Check out Stark Raving Mad, YDI, Missbrukarna, and Neos.

Hahaha, yeah they do. I used to be pretty into the Neos about a year ago, good band. I'll check out Stark Raving Mad.

Drunk Injuns rule. Oh, and Hated Youth ruled, too. I managed to do an interview with their singer earlier in the year. Such awesome stories from that guy.

I read that, it was pretty cool that you got to do that. Pretty funny band.

What makes them different from other more popular hardcore bands?

Nothing other than they are not very well known.

Anxious
10-14-2006, 09:51 PM
Nothing other than they are not very well known.
Then i'm not going to waste my time tracking them down.

Excursions
10-14-2006, 09:54 PM
Since you're not a big hardcore fan Dom, I wouldn't expect you to.

Anxious
10-14-2006, 10:00 PM
right.

IgniteYourAvail
10-15-2006, 09:20 AM
Posting in an epic thread.

Jessizzle
10-15-2006, 09:42 AM
STD, as in septic tank diaster?

SubtleDagger
10-15-2006, 09:47 AM
Hey Excursions do you mind if I download a bunch of terribly recorded completely unheard of hardcore from the early eighties off you

I mean obviously if you have it and no one has ever heard of it it must be the best music ever

IgniteYourAvail
10-15-2006, 10:15 AM
I love how people take Adam seriously. Funniest thing ever.

And SubtleDagger if you're serious then you probably didn't read the first post at all.

Jessizzle
10-15-2006, 10:20 AM
dear adam:
have my babies

SubtleDagger
10-15-2006, 10:59 AM
I love how people take Adam seriously. Funniest thing ever.

And SubtleDagger if you're serious then you probably didn't read the first post at all.
...

Sarcasm

TakeWarning
10-15-2006, 11:40 AM
I love how people take Adam seriously. Funniest thing ever.

And SubtleDagger if you're serious then you probably didn't read the first post at all.

Haha, how could you not pick up on that sarcasm?

IgniteYourAvail
10-15-2006, 12:27 PM
I know it was sarcasm ****tards, but it was sarcasm to prove a point that he had. This point was that he was making fun of Adam for thinking obscure music is the best ever. Which he never said. Damn, you people are dumb.

asdf
10-15-2006, 12:32 PM
But obscure music is the best music ever.

IgniteYourAvail
10-15-2006, 12:35 PM
Haha

SubtleDagger
10-15-2006, 12:44 PM
I know it was sarcasm ****tards, but it was sarcasm to prove a point that he had. This point was that he was making fun of Adam for thinking obscure music is the best ever. Which he never said. Damn, you people are dumb.
My point was Adam is lame for thinking everyone cares that much about his taste

Not really that his taste sucks

Though it probably does

IgniteYourAvail
10-15-2006, 12:47 PM
Don't mind him. He likes Pink.

AIRIC
10-15-2006, 02:30 PM
My point was Adam is lame for thinking everyone cares that much about his taste

Not really that his taste sucks

Though it probably does

Wintermute gave me an infraction for a comment like this.

SubtleDagger
10-15-2006, 02:39 PM
What, that somebody's taste sucks?

That's dumb

I mean he does have a pink avatar

AIRIC
10-15-2006, 02:41 PM
Yeah it was for something of that nature.

The kicker is that his taste really DOES suck.

SubtleDagger
10-15-2006, 02:42 PM
Yeah I don't get how that's infraction-worthy tbqh

Plenty of people think my taste sucks and I don't care that much

asdf
10-15-2006, 03:19 PM
My tastes don't belong in this forum.

Excursions
10-15-2006, 03:33 PM
You don't get it Subtle Dagger, you just don't get it. I just thought I would create a thread to talk about some of the less knowns of the era of hardcore music and you come in with your Converge and all ****ting up the thread because Converge sucks. It's just not nice.

faith and fiction
10-15-2006, 03:39 PM
Adam's taste is good

Burt just doesn't understand hardcore punk I guess if he's gonna give people s'hit for liking obscure music, I mean his favorite band is Refused or something lame like that.

And I don't know of a ton of obscure bands but Big Boys are definitely one of my favorites if we're talking 80s hardcore

Excursions
10-15-2006, 03:42 PM
Big Boys rule. The Dicks too if we are talking awesome Texas bands. Really Red too.

SubtleDagger
10-15-2006, 03:49 PM
Burt just doesn't understand hardcore punk I guess if he's gonna give people s'hit for liking obscure music, I mean his favorite band is Refused or something lame like that.
Haha what?

Big Boys aren't that obscure anyway

I like Saccharine Trust but they're not really that hardcore

Plus I figured if they were in American Hardcore they weren't that obscure

faith and fiction
10-15-2006, 03:51 PM
Ever heard of the Midwest? Hello obcurity.

SubtleDagger
10-15-2006, 03:53 PM
Yeah that's why I said
Plus I figured if they were in American Hardcore they weren't that obscure
At least not anymore

faith and fiction
10-15-2006, 03:56 PM
I don't even get what you're trying to say anymore. Could be because my brain is fried but what I'm getting is that you think if a band is American it's not obscure or at least not these days?

That's stupid.

SubtleDagger
10-15-2006, 03:58 PM
No

I figured if the band was mentioned a whole shitload in American Hardcore (the book) that it wasn't that obscure any more since most hardcore fans have rediscovered them

But whatever, I guess there's still bands in there that people don't talk about much like Really Red and Heart Attack and stuff, the stuff like Big Boys just has a big huge section on it so I figured that did something for them

faith and fiction
10-15-2006, 04:01 PM
Ohhhh

Now I get what you're saying. Understandable. I was throwing Big Boys in the obscure area though because of how f'ucking insane and different they were. I don't think you could have found another band doing the s'hit they were doing at that time or even now, and especially doing it in Texas.

IgniteYourAvail
10-15-2006, 04:03 PM
/np Angry Samoans

SubtleDagger
10-15-2006, 04:04 PM
There was all kinds of weird **** going on in Texas what with Butthole Surfers and Big Boys and all that odd stuff

The only scene that I think got close to being as weird was the sort of Flipper/No Trend thing or the Chicago scene

It's funny how a lot of stuff that was in the hardcore scene wouldn't even be considered anything close to it now

I guess Void wasn't obscure at the time but they never really released any material and I really dig their stuff that's been gathered up

faith and fiction
10-15-2006, 04:08 PM
Nah man, Big Boys went all out unlike any other band. Cross dressing and talking about sucking dick at bars in Texas definitely gives Big Boys the biggest balls out of all 80s bands

ThisUserIsAPipebomb
10-15-2006, 04:10 PM
I suck at being obsucre. Batallion of Saints are probably the most obscure 80's hardcore I know. They rule.

SubtleDagger
10-15-2006, 04:15 PM
Haha thats true, the Dicks were the same way

In other scenes it was the cops and jocks and in Texas everyone's like a frigging hick

IgniteYourAvail
10-15-2006, 04:20 PM
There's a kid in my school named Glen Taylor.

Rep to the first person to point out the connection.

NOTE: I only give 1 rep. Postcount --.

Feel The Darkness
10-15-2006, 04:24 PM
There's a kid in my school named Glen Taylor.

Rep to the first person to point out the connection.

NOTE: I only give 1 rep. Postcount --.
I did merch for the Dicks at Chaos in Tejas.

Times Ten
10-15-2006, 04:47 PM
I like Saccharine Trust but they're not really that hardcore

Plus I figured if they were in American Hardcore they weren't that obscure
Doesn't matter, Saccharine Trust is sweet.

SubtleDagger
10-15-2006, 05:01 PM
Doesn't matter, Saccharine Trust is sweet.
\m/ (-_-) \m/

IgniteYourAvail
10-15-2006, 05:12 PM
I did merch for the Dicks at Chaos in Tejas.

Rep'd

Flagjacket
10-15-2006, 06:18 PM
My most obscure 80's hardcore band is Brigger.

Bukowski
10-15-2006, 09:10 PM
Big Boys are the best band ever, really.

I like Die Kreuzen if they're considered obscure. Same with the Tar Babies and JFA.

me likes punk
10-15-2006, 09:20 PM
Nah man, Big Boys went all out unlike any other band. Cross dressing and talking about sucking dick at bars in Texas definitely gives Big Boys the biggest balls out of all 80s bands


If you consider that going all out, then my band would be the most hardcore band ever. We're hxc.


Edit: Antidote is the only semi-obscure band I know of.

Flagjacket
10-15-2006, 09:25 PM
I honestly do not like the Big Boys. I think Brigger is more hardcore, cause the drummer and guitarist tried to spell **** LIFE with big strips of paper in Central Park.

faith and fiction
10-15-2006, 09:46 PM
If you consider that going all out, then my band would be the most hardcore band ever. We're hxc.


Edit: Antidote is the only semi-obscure band I know of.Man you just don't get it then.

me likes punk
10-15-2006, 09:47 PM
I honestly do not like the Big Boys. I think Brigger is more hardcore, cause the drummer and guitarist tried to spell **** LIFE with big strips of paper in Central Park.


Why didn't they succeed?

me likes punk
10-15-2006, 09:47 PM
Man you just don't get it then.


Please explain.

faith and fiction
10-15-2006, 09:49 PM
Please explain.
Hardcore in the 80s was THE counter culture of the decade and I personally think Big Boys and the Dicks went all out with it. Two decades ago Texas was a lot different than it is now in how accepting people were, even in Austin. If you don't see them as having huge balls by going around bars in Texas playing shows to hicks and whatnot while cross dressing and being openly gay then you should probably find a new niche.

me likes punk
10-15-2006, 09:54 PM
Hardcore in the 80s was THE counter culture of the decade and I personally think Big Boys and the Dicks went all out with it. Two decades ago Texas was a lot different than it is now in how accepting people were, even in Austin. If you don't see them as having huge balls by going around bars in Texas playing shows to hicks and whatnot while cross dressing and being openly gay then you should probably find a new niche.


I see what you mean. Makes my band seem less hardcore, though. Punk and hardcore in their early years were a very risky thing to be a part of(from what I've read).

Excursions
10-15-2006, 10:30 PM
No

I figured if the band was mentioned a whole shitload in American Hardcore (the book) that it wasn't that obscure any more since most hardcore fans have rediscovered them

But whatever, I guess there's still bands in there that people don't talk about much like Really Red and Heart Attack and stuff, the stuff like Big Boys just has a big huge section on it so I figured that did something for them

Lots of people talk about Really Red and stuff, most of this junk has a huge fanbase still listening to it and then selling their 7"s on eBay for $700+. Well Really Red were already pretty well known to begin with.

Haha what?

Big Boys aren't that obscure anyway

I like Saccharine Trust but they're not really that hardcore

Plus I figured if they were in American Hardcore they weren't that obscure

Yeah, Sac Trust kicked. Pretty much a good deal of the SST bands at the time had hardcore influence but weren't really hardcore, Sac being a good example. On the topic of SST those after good SST bands should try the following:

Slovenly
Universal Congress Of
Tar Babies
MOFUNGO
The Divine Horsemen
Das Damen
Opal
Angst
Tom Troccoli's Dog
DC-3
Pell Mell
Blind Idiot God
Trotsky Icepick
Henry Kaiser

Now to Texas hardcore, I agree that it was the ballsiest hardcore around. Flordia hardcore and Texas hardcore probably takes up the majority of my hardcore listenings. Fearless Iranians From Hell, Verbal Abuse, Cringe et al.

Big Boys are the best band ever, really.

I like Die Kreuzen if they're considered obscure. Same with the Tar Babies and JFA.

Everyone seems to love Die Kreuzen now for some reason. They have been one of my favourites for a while, mainly their first EP and LP.

sketchyjoe
10-16-2006, 07:04 AM
Black Market Baby
Fearless Iranians From Hell
Nun****ers
76% Uncertain
Articles of Faith
Battalion of Saints
F
Drunk Injuns
Jack****
Gay Cowboys in Bondage
Los Olvidados
Free Beer
Atoxxxico
Attitude Adjustment
Shattered Faith
Skate Death
The Hates
Th'Inbred
Squirrel Bait
The Tar Babies
Vatican Commandos

Anxious
10-16-2006, 10:06 AM
SST did hardcore the best. They didn't sign shittty generic bands, they had bands with their own spin on hardcore. Greg Ginn's an *** though, so we'll never see 80% of those bands on cd.

RetiredAt21
10-16-2006, 10:52 AM
I want to punch Greg Ginn in the face.

Pete
10-16-2006, 11:45 AM
I listen to hardcore so obscure that if I write about it, it ceases to exist.



Obscure, and European.

Feel The Darkness
10-16-2006, 12:35 PM
Black Market Baby
Fearless Iranians From Hell
Nun****ers
76% Uncertain
Articles of Faith
Battalion of Saints
F
Drunk Injuns
Jack****
Gay Cowboys in Bondage
Los Olvidados
Free Beer
Atoxxxico
Attitude Adjustment
Shattered Faith
Skate Death
The Hates
Th'Inbred
Squirrel Bait
The Tar Babies
Vatican Commandos
Those are the ones I know I like already. I still need to get the other FIFH LP and the EP.

IgniteYourAvail
10-16-2006, 03:21 PM
F rules.

Flagjacket
10-16-2006, 03:30 PM
Why didn't they succeed?

I think they just quit cause they couldn't coordinate it right, I'm not sure though, the drummer is in prison now though.

me likes punk
10-16-2006, 10:03 PM
Does Fifi count as hardcore? I've only heard one song of theirs from the SLC Punk soundtrack, but it was pretty good.

Bukowski
10-17-2006, 05:03 PM
Squirrel Bait

This band are amazing. I'm not just saying that because they broke up to form Slint, they were actually a great band. Their EP was fantastic.

Times Ten
10-17-2006, 08:40 PM
Black Market Baby
Fearless Iranians From Hell
Nun****ers
76% Uncertain
Articles of Faith
Battalion of Saints
F
Drunk Injuns
Jack****
Gay Cowboys in Bondage
Los Olvidados
Free Beer
Atoxxxico
Attitude Adjustment
Shattered Faith
Skate Death
The Hates
Th'Inbred
Squirrel Bait
The Tar Babies
Vatican Commandos
Great list.

RetiredAt21
10-17-2006, 09:22 PM
I don't know even half of those bands. :(

sketchyjoe
10-18-2006, 07:16 AM
That's because you're not as cool as me.

RetiredAt21
10-18-2006, 08:34 AM
Pfffft.

Feel The Darkness
10-18-2006, 11:24 AM
Pfffft.
Don't you ever pfffft Joe. He's cooler than you.

Excursions
10-18-2006, 03:25 PM
There is a couple of bands on that list I wouldn't mind checking out, most of the I listen to already though. Good list.

Volume8
10-18-2006, 06:14 PM
If you never play live and skip straight to releasing a single with no follow up album or fan base, your not really a band now are you... Thats what is technically known in the business as "A bunch of dlck heads"

Flagjacket
10-18-2006, 06:24 PM
What are you even talking about.

lynch_me
10-18-2006, 06:36 PM
Joe can I get some of those off you man?

fishingforbasses
10-18-2006, 09:57 PM
Apparently that's all I listen to so discuss your favourites.

Kill The Hostages

"This is the group I could not leave off, a group so obscure that most punk rock buffs would just kind of give you a blank look if you brought it up. Kill the Hostages never played live, and only released one single, which was limited to around 200 copies. KTH obtained a coupon for a free recording session at a Florida flea market, and laid down an eight-song demo from which they pressed their single "Mutant." "Mutant" had a hand-penciled cover, and the music was other-worldly. Nothing like it has ever been, nor ever will be made. The vocals are incomprehensible screams; the lyrics will forever be lost, but they had something to do with creating a Frankenstein-like monster and throwing it a dance party. This band's demo is definitely one that should be on bootleg." - Perfect Sound Forever

Rat Cafeteria
The Spanish Dogs
Depression (Not really obscure but cool band)
STD

Bands like that. And no, don't ask me to let you download this stuff off me on soulseek, I won't let you.


Wow you think the 80's punk scene is obscure???

I think the 80's was when punk was at its best. I only think really punk was the hardcore stuff, like Black Flag and Bad Brains. The HC scene was from '80-'86, so I don't think it is obscure at all.....Most punk before or after the 80's sucked. (I do like the Sex Pistols though....)
The '80's was easily punks most evolutionary time....

IgniteYourAvail
10-18-2006, 10:07 PM
Wow you think the 80's punk scene is obscure???

:lol::lol::lol:

(r)evolution
10-18-2006, 10:10 PM
Wow you think the 80's punk scene is obscure???

I think the 80's was when punk was at its best. I only think really punk was the hardcore stuff, like Black Flag and Bad Brains. The HC scene was from '80-'86, so I don't think it is obscure at all.....Most punk before or after the 80's sucked. (I do like the Sex Pistols though....)
The '80's was easily punks most evolutionary time....

yeah but at the time you had to look really hard to find it. Kinda like now except it was way better.

lynch_me
10-18-2006, 10:18 PM
yeah but at the time you had to look really hard to find it. Kinda like now except it was way better.

Uh, You don't have to look hard.

Flagjacket
10-18-2006, 10:50 PM
Yeah, the 80's was like an Atlantic OCean full of hardcore bands. I actually made up the band I was talking about but no one could tell.

lynch_me
10-18-2006, 10:57 PM
My most obscure 80's hardcore band is Brigger.

Man, I love that band.

Yeah, the 80's was like an Atlantic OCean full of hardcore bands. I actually made up the band I was talking about but no one could tell.

Lies!

Excursions
10-18-2006, 11:56 PM
Wow you think the 80's punk scene is obscure???

I think the 80's was when punk was at its best. I only think really punk was the hardcore stuff, like Black Flag and Bad Brains. The HC scene was from '80-'86, so I don't think it is obscure at all.....Most punk before or after the 80's sucked. (I do like the Sex Pistols though....)
The '80's was easily punks most evolutionary time....

I'm sure you listen to the majority of the bands mentioned in this thread.

40 oz 2 freedom
10-19-2006, 12:04 AM
Like Circle Jerks Adam?

Excursions
10-19-2006, 12:05 AM
Fo shizzle.

40 oz 2 freedom
10-19-2006, 12:07 AM
Oh cool I like them. I like that cd Group Sex.

Excursions
10-19-2006, 12:08 AM
Yeah same. I also like that band that singer guy was in. I think they were called Black Flag or Black Fag.

RetiredAt21
10-19-2006, 12:47 AM
lol

heyimsheep1
10-19-2006, 11:43 AM
Might've been mentioned already, but I don't come here as much and I'm not sifting through 5 pages...

Antidote - Thou Shalt Not Kill
Hated Youth - Hardcore Rules

IgniteYourAvail
10-20-2006, 03:02 PM
Might've been mentioned already, but I don't come here as much and I'm not sifting through 5 pages...

Antidote - Thou Shalt Not Kill
Hated Youth - Hardcore Rules

Awesome, awesome albums.

Times Ten
10-20-2006, 06:33 PM
Thou Shalt Not Kill is so underrated.

Bukowski
10-20-2006, 08:31 PM
Yeah, Sac Trust kicked. Pretty much a good deal of the SST bands at the time had hardcore influence but weren't really hardcore, Sac being a good example. On the topic of SST those after good SST bands should try the following:

Slovenly
Universal Congress Of
Tar Babies
MOFUNGO
The Divine Horsemen
Das Damen
Opal
Angst
Tom Troccoli's Dog
DC-3
Pell Mell
Blind Idiot God
Trotsky Icepick
Henry Kaiser


Excursions, have you heard Bl'ast? If so what do you think?