Hip hop/Drum and Bass snare

[Loyton]

Im in the market for a new snare, and I have some things in mind but I would like some input from the board.

It needs to be a funky/poppy hip hop sound, with bright attack but gracefull ghost notes.

I had some different sizes of the black panther steel and hammered steel in mind, as well as a pork pie acrylic 13x7. I have played these and like them. I am open to suggestions and discussion in general, thank you.

Oh, and cash is not an issue, I am just out to buy exactly what I want.

[HeLLmO]

hmm, a brass snare would do it, or a nice tight birch snare maybe, like from yamaha or somethin'. i've got a tama 13x7 artwood, and if i threw a PS3 on it, that would probably get the job done. maybe look into a custom snare with a vent or 2?

[We_Love_Lime]

The DW one with the like interchangable vent things.
The really special one.
That one seems pretty chill.

[FooBuddy1989]

the snare that matter uses would probly be good for you, and its really affordable on top of it

http://www.massmusic.net/shop/?shop=1&cat=1414&cart=3811361
its the 13x3.5 steel snare

[Aaron]

5x13" Maple with wood hoops I think.

[ComicalMischief]

12x7 really win.
Mapex Maple series 12x7 snare is reallllllllll hot. They go for quite cheap too. I think around ~$170 maybe?
I promise you won't regret buying one.

[TTTSNB]

I would suggest a small, shallow drum, like 14x4 or maybe 13x3, although you might want to go with a deeper depth for the smaller diameter. Definitely go with a metal drum also. POP.

[BSU_53]

Yeah wood hoops can really make a snare sound good for hip hop. Try for a fatter snare like a 12x7 and then tighten the heads up pretty tight on them...I actually just kind of downtune my maple snare and let it ring with the snares pretty tight, and then slap muffling ring on. This gives it some good bottom end for grace notes and plenty of thick pop for accent notes.

edit: I'm thinking for more of a sound from like artists like Bonobo if you can check out his songs, he makes instrumental beats but they are very cool. but i have heard all different types of snare sounds in hip hop.

[Loyton]

Yeah wood hoops can really make a snare sound good for hip hop. Try for a fatter snare like a 12x7 and then tighten the heads up pretty tight on them...I actually just kind of downtune my maple snare and let it ring with the snares pretty tight, and then slap muffling ring on. This gives it some good bottom end for grace notes and plenty of thick pop for accent notes.

edit: I'm thinking for more of a sound from like artists like Bonobo if you can check out his songs, he makes instrumental beats but they are very cool. but i have heard all different types of snare sounds in hip hop.

Haha, im listening to bonobo right now.

So far I'm seriously considering the 13x3.5 steel black panther as aux, then something fat as my main snare, more along the lines of what you are talking about.

[White Riot!]

13 x 6.5 or 14 x 6.5 Jarrah with Jarrah Hoops


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[Josiah]

13 x 6.5 or 14 x 6.5 Jarrah with Jarrah Hoops


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That really isn't close to the sound he's goin for.


Somethin fast and articulent, 13x4 or so with a bit of dampening. There's really no sense in putting money into a snare that's got nicer woods or made to produce a lot of tone, since that's not the sound your after.

The hip hop/etc snare sounds are very "snare", very quick and then gone. Not like rock or funk etc where the snare notes ring out. most those guys are using thin snares of 12 or 13" diameter.

[Aaron]

Yeah. 4x13" Maple, Emp, 42-strand, crank it up high.

[White Riot!]

The hip hop/etc snare sounds are very "snare", very quick and then gone. Not like rock or funk etc where the snare notes ring out. most those guys are using thin snares of 12 or 13" diameter.

I guess your right. The old school sound coming from drum machines was analog (since they could not store sounds) back in those days which forced the makers of drum machines to get creative.

The drum machine snare sound is actually a burst of white noise and the kicks are modeled with sine waves

The one hip hop drum machine sound that was completely and utterly hopeless in trying to replicate was the cowbell sound. It is so different and sounds nothing like a cowbell , and that is probably why it is one of the distinct tradition sounds of hip hop

[ludvista29]

Mushsashi 13x6

[ilikenoise]

13" main, 10" aux.

loads of yamaha choices.

[Dave*Grohl]

13x5'5" BP Brass snare

That's what I'm going to get...prolly next month since it's my 18th birthday and I'm expecting some money

[beaker_747]

Akira Jimbo sig snare. 13" x 7"

Check out his videos on drummerworld for similar sounds. I'm pretty sure Matter has one as well and has used it in a few videos.

[some jive turkey]

....get something small and metal. And for jollies go for some die cast rims.

[Undisco Kidd]

The tiny musashi with the groove wedge.

You're going to need some nice cross sticking. Therefor the wedge = the win.

[crolfe1]

To be honest with you, one of the most funky snares I've got to play was a Pearl 6"x10" maple with those mastercast rims.

I'm sure a 6x12 would prove a little more versatile but just as funky.

[lmldrummer]

sorry, but didn't want to make a new thread since there was already a snare thread.

how much of a diff. is there between the bp hammered steel and reg. steel, sound wise, there's about $100 diff., so i wanted to know

not trying to hijack the thread, if someone that knew first hand and can tell me what they sound like gives me a good answer, i'll be fine

[some jive turkey]

I have a POS pearl steel snare,...5x13"....one of those cheapies that comes with a bell kit. I got it somehow in a trade. Tuned just right, with a nice G1 on it, and the snares positioned properly. It covers this sound you want pretty well. It's not worthy of being your main pride-and-joy snare, but it works as an addition to the family.