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guitarrey
09-28-2006, 12:03 AM
I've really gotten into alot of extreme music styles this past couple of years such as Grindcore (AxCx being my favorite) and Death Metal (George Fisher is like my idol) in paticular. And in the recent year or two Ive been trying my best at developing my own way of accomplishing the type of naturaul harsh vocals known as the Growl aka Deathgrowl aka Cookie Monster Vocal, and also screaming like Seth Putman. It hasn't been easy, being that I had to pretty much teach myeself and learn my own technique for learning. so here it is. be warned, if you dont have patience dont bother reading on. No Pain No Gain rules are bullsh!t when it comes to this kind of singing.

First off, think of this as weightlifting:
Its good to warmup your voice before performing
When you get tired you need to rest.
and you can hurt yourself.
Crawl before you walk.

All my life when i was young and my mom would be singing in her car, i would always sing along. I cant say i was a good singer, but i can say i was prepareing my voice for growling. Believe it or not you can throw out your voice with regualr clean vocals just as much as your can growling, so before you try to actually growl, try singing to some clean vocaled music. Dont really try and imitate the voice, but just try and stay in key and get your voice box trained.

When you try and sing clean try and sing the notes real low. Go as low as you can with the key. The trick is is to get you voice box real strong and used to low pitches.

ANOTHER IMPORTANT FACT I STUPIDLY FORGOT TO MENTION:
Death growls (like all types of singing) come from the gut. So when your singing , tighten up that stomach and use them abs. Thats why if your not used to singing clean vocals, use should practice and in the process use your stomach muscles to get them stronger and prepared for real growls.

Okay, so you say you sing all the time now, and you can sing in all keys. well heres how i developed my growls.

First, warm up, and when you honestly feel like your ready, try and sing a low note but make your vocal chords growl in the process. Think of it as a dog growling. Sometimes when I'd try and practice I'd try and imitate Jonathan Davis's scat style of singing. Just growl. and use your gut.
Also, to help develop articulation and different tones try and pronounceing words that you could imagine being used in a death metal song like:
Doomed or Decay or Death or Burn. Anything to make you let out a harsh 'eerr' sound is great to start out with. The trick is to make you voice growl, and as your voice box gets stronger try and make it go deeper and at the same time more distorted with growling.
When you have a good foundation try and growl along to some death metal. All though this can be a little intimidateing at first, so just for starters why not put on something like Iron Maiden, or even Slayer. Something that's still heavy but not detah metal just to get started. Plus, its almost like you makeing a death metal cover of Angel of Death.

REMINDER: Your wont be able to sound like the guy from Cryptopsy on your first try, or even your first month. Ive been working on this type of vocal for maybe half a year. It takes time. Dont strain yourself. If this type of singing isnt for you, then dont bother. It wont be worth it. Some people are a natrual at it, and some just cant do it. and hey, if this technique dosent work out for you, and you find some other way of doing it better than this, then hey, good for you. George Fisher of Cannibal Corpse said that he got his voice by just sitting up in his room trying to imitate Slayer and Death.

Chris Barnes voice comes form smoking marijuana. I wouldn't recommened this. He says the herb relaxes his voice box, but can dry smoke really be all that great for your vocal chords? Plus, if you listen to Hammersmashed Face and compare it to what his voice sounds like now, there is a difference. Im not gonna rape my lungs, if George Fisher can get his voice natrually, then so can I.

I hope this helps. If your throat starts bleeding al of a sudden dont come crying to me. I told you to take a break.

FRUGiHOYi
09-28-2006, 03:26 PM
You forgot to mention the most important thing: you don't have to be loud! There is a type of growling that is loud, but at least when you're starting out, you should go for low volume. The microphone is there to amplify it.

cadencethefire
09-28-2006, 05:19 PM
You forgot to mention the most important thing: you don't have to be loud! There is a type of growling that is loud, but at least when you're starting out, you should go for low volume. The microphone is there to amplify it.

i want to add to that, if you're still not getting loud enough with whatever PA you're using, that doesn't meant your growl isn't loud enough, invest money in a BETTER PA, because in the end, your voice is worth far more than any expensive Power amp and speaker combo

IsItButter
09-28-2006, 07:27 PM
How much warming up would be considered good? Or what should i do to warm up??

Motorbreath5478
10-01-2006, 06:17 AM
I found that starting out doing a little and then branching out helps a lot. A while ago I got into a lot of black metal. I'm sure you'll agree the vocals for anything by Burzum are pretty extreme.

Anyways, I found that if you start by doing all you can manage (basically until your throat hurts... and believe me - it will) you will steadily increase your vocal durability, allowing you to scream for longer and with more depth.

Toaster
10-01-2006, 09:29 AM
No offence, but this is a terrible guide to harsh vocals. First of all, growls sound better when you're singing a higher pitch, not a low pitch. You didn't even tell the reader how to growl- all you said was you should find the rasp in your vocal cords and "just growl".

And if growling isn't loud, it's lame. Come on, the purpose of growling is to be powerful, brutal sounding, not to be soft and thin. Say you're singing at a concert, and when you start to growl, no one can hear you. It's not like you can turn up your mic at different points in a song.. if anything, your harsh voice should be louder than your singing voice.

FRUGiHOYi
10-01-2006, 11:59 AM
And if growling isn't loud, it's lame. Come on, the purpose of growling is to be powerful, brutal sounding, not to be soft and thin. Say you're singing at a concert, and when you start to growl, no one can hear you. It's not like you can turn up your mic at different points in a song.. if anything, your harsh voice should be louder than your singing voice.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

Toaster
10-01-2006, 12:07 PM
Well generally, growls are louder. If you tell a person they don't have to growl louder than they sing, they're going to close up their vocal cords, give a bit of a phlegmy whisper and say "ZOMG GUYS I CAN SCREEM". It should be a yell, not a whisper.

There are a few exceptions like Akerfeldt, but most metal vocalists growl louder than they sing/speak.

I'm actually doing a instructional harsh vocal recording for this site right now, so I'll put that on there too.

FRUGiHOYi
10-01-2006, 12:13 PM
Well generally, growls are louder. If you tell a person they don't have to growl louder than they sing, they're going to close up their vocal cords, give a bit of a phlegmy whisper and say "ZOMG GUYS I CAN SCREEM". It should be a yell, not a whisper.

There are a few exceptions like Akerfeldt, but most metal vocalists growl louder than they sing/speak.

I'm actually doing a instructional harsh vocal recording for this site right now, so I'll put that on there too.
You're right, it shouldn't be a whisper, but it doesn't have to be a yell either. The low volume growl is kind of in between. And from personal experience, I can tell you that you will naturally get louder the more you do it.

You're right about Åkerfeldt , and I was going to tell you I personally asked him and Karl Sanders about their technique and they both said they use low volume. But the guy from Necrophagist, for example, does it really loud.

I just don't know why you would say if it's not loud, it's lame. Do you think Åkerfeldt sounds lame??

cadencethefire
10-02-2006, 02:53 PM
No offence, but this is a terrible guide to harsh vocals. First of all, growls sound better when you're singing a higher pitch, not a low pitch. You didn't even tell the reader how to growl- all you said was you should find the rasp in your vocal cords and "just growl".

And if growling isn't loud, it's lame. Come on, the purpose of growling is to be powerful, brutal sounding, not to be soft and thin. Say you're singing at a concert, and when you start to growl, no one can hear you. It's not like you can turn up your mic at different points in a song.. if anything, your harsh voice should be louder than your singing voice.

you'd be surprised what people can pull off live... it doesn't have to be loud... that's why they make compressors and limiters