Ban French Fries?

[HaVIC5]

Article:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060927/ap_on_he_me/diet_trans_fat_ban

Quite a radical idea. Your thoughts, PNWI forum?

[coheneran]

I read a report by the WHO (World Health Organisation) that said if potatoes had just been discovered now, they would have banned them as food products. They are VERY carcinogenic when fried apparantly, but surely that's not the only reason.

[AmericanWeiner]

I'm happy for this.

I would suffer my addiction of fats to see my children live extremely healthy lives.

We need to accept that as humans, we're highly addicted to some things that just aren't demonized yet.

[sexymuffin]

man you guys all just hate human liberties dont you

[coheneran]

man you guys all just hate human liberties dont you

:lol: Freedom fried ftw.

[sexymuffin]

i'm srsly though, it's all "ban this" "ban that" for the sake of our health.

Well you know what? I don't give a **** about my health. You only live once, eat less ricecakes and more pancakes ffs.

[coheneran]

i'm srsly though, it's all "ban this" "ban that" for the sake of our health.

Well you know what? I don't give a **** about my health. You only live once, eat less ricecakes and more pancakes ffs.

I try to live like that. But I don't smoke. Not because I don't wanna die young, there's more dangerous things out there than cigarettes, I don't smoke because I enjoy keeping fit and being able to run (actually, considering my life choices, it's imperative I be able to keep running or walking for long periods of time. For the same reasons, I endorse cops eating lots of fatty foods and smoking, you won't believe how fit the Met cops are).

[sexymuffin]

I try to live like that. But I don't smoke. Not because I don't wanna die young, there's more dangerous things out there than cigarettes, I don't smoke because I enjoy keeping fit and being able to run (actually, considering my life choices, it's imperative I be able to keep running or walking for long periods of time. For the same reasons, I endorse cops eating lots of fatty foods and smoking, you won't believe how fit the Met cops are).

Well good, because i'm sick of everyone being all like "ban cigarettes solve all the world probz" which is total bullshit. This forum is just full of pudgy little idealists sitting at their computer comfortably bitching about what the government needs to do about an issue they have no experience with. I smoke because it's the only release i've had lately with all the **** i've been catching from all ends. It's like my little vacation at the end of a long day that makes me feel like it was actually worth going through. Nicotine is cool like that.

[drewhet]

Their talking about banning trans fats, not the potatoe fries, which i think is a good idea. And muffin, if the only way you feel like your day was actually worth going through is by smoking, then that's pretty sad.

[sexymuffin]

they won't taste nearly as good i garuntee it

[Jude]

This is even more absurd than that smoking ban bull****.

[drewhet]

they won't taste nearly as good i garuntee it

Trans fats are in a lot of things, banning them is a great idea so people don't have to worry about whether or not the food they are ordering has them in it.

[sexymuffin]

uh huh, they still won't taste nearly as good. Just like diet pepsi ew

[drewhet]

So you quit being a pussy and get used to it. Besides, i heard you can hardly tell a difference, you are making it out to be way worse than it is.

[sexymuffin]

um no i'm not what's wrong with eating perversly fattening food?

[AmericanWeiner]

I like diet drinks :[

[dustindow]

It seems thats the easy way out. Point the finger at what seems to be the most obvious. It is easier to ban the choice to eat fatty foods then to motivate and educate people to make healthy choices and work out.

Its simply moronic. I should have the choice to eat fatty foods smoke ciggerettes and watch midget porn while burning the american flag. Not because I want to but because I can.

[AmericanWeiner]

It's not a fatty food ban. It's a ban of artificial transfat.

That means they're banning substances that manufacturers pump into their foods to make them more addictive.

[Scuba_Steve]

when the fat transvestites or whatever it is you people are getting your panties in a bunch over are gone, there will just be something else to bitch about.


SO calm down.

[AmericanWeiner]

Hey, that's progress

[sexymuffin]

It's not a fatty food ban. It's a ban of artificial transfat.

That means they're banning substances that manufacturers pump into their foods to make them more addictive*.

*tasty

[Reaganista]

at the very least they should have a surgeon general's warning or something

[AmericanWeiner]

I already said I prefer less fattening alternatives like diet drinks

[John Paul Harrison]

This is quite bizarre. I though I detected a liberal vibe in this forum.

Now why is it getting all 1984 on me now? Banning fats from our foods?

[dustindow]

ew diet fries. But if they stop putting in artificial trans fat wouldn't it taste better?

[dustindow]

This is quite bizarre. I though I detected a liberal vibe in this forum.



that seem to left awhile ago.

[AmericanWeiner]

ew diet fries. But if they stop putting in artificial trans fat wouldn't it taste better?

nope, not really

your body is addicted to fats and sugars. You can't help that you find them more tasty.

and what the hell does 1984 have to do with banning artificial transfat

[sexymuffin]

I already said I prefer less fattening alternatives like diet drinks

that's just because you're lying to yourself.

[Samuel]

Sounds pretty ridiculous to me.

The government should focus on protecting people from others, not from themselves. Education about this **** should be the obvious choice of solutions, yet instead we are subjected to more bans.

[spitfirejunky]

i'm srsly though, it's all "ban this" "ban that" for the sake of our health.

Well you know what? I don't give a **** about my health. You only live once, eat less ricecakes and more pancakes ffs.

Winnar.

[Reaganista]

actually, using 'you only live once' as a reason to do things which you understand will shorten your life is an appaling stupid thing
it would make more sense to use belief in reincarnation as an excuse

[sexymuffin]

i'm just talking about not worrying so much about your health and not freaking out because you want to eat that danish someone brought into work.

[Reaganista]

ok.
I don't like danish(es)
but you shouldn't freak out about stuff like that
that'll raise your blood pressure <_<

[spitfirejunky]

actually, using 'you only live once' as a reason to do things which you understand will shorten your life is an appaling stupid thing

Not if you genuinely enjoy doing these things.

[Reaganista]

there's nothing enjoyable about obesity

[sexymuffin]

ok.
I don't like danish(es)
but you shouldn't freak out about stuff like that
that'll raise your blood pressure <_<

um but people do freak out about stuff like that becuase everyone wants people to stop eating anything that tastes good. Fat people are so rediculously discriminated in our society.

But really, all things in moderation. I smoke one - three cigarettes a day and eat moderately. I'm in good enough shape to get by and enjoy being able to dig into a good meal. If you can't learn to do that, then you deserve to suffer the consequences.

[Reaganista]

um but people do freak out about stuff like that becuase everyone wants people to stop eating anything that tastes good.
um not really

Fat people are so rediculously discriminated in our society.
fat people should be discriminated
if by discriminated you mean encouraged to not be fat

But really, all things in moderation. I smoke one - three cigarettes a day and eat moderately. I'm in good enough shape to get by and enjoy being able to dig into a good meal. If you can't learn to do that, then you deserve to suffer the consequences.
and the consequences should be punitive taxes

[spitfirejunky]

there's nothing enjoyable about obesity

I eat fried foods with saturated fats therefore I'm obese? :confused:

Everything in moderation.

[Reaganista]

if you 'don't give a **** about your health' as the post you agreed with exhorted
you are or soon will be obese

[sexymuffin]

um not really

diet coke, no sugar, no fat, whole grain, baked lays. The substitutes are popping up everywhere.


fat people should be discriminated
if by discriminated you mean encouraged to not be fat


Yeah because your average guy looks at a fat chick and goes "hey overweight person, why don't you take a few dieting tips from me and maybe meet for some exercising later?"

No, they go "hey fatty lol"
and the consequences should be punitive taxes

Tax people for being overweight?

[spitfirejunky]

if you 'don't give a **** about your health' as the post you agreed with exhorted
you are or soon will be obese

And you get jokes. She's clearly exaggerating.

[sexymuffin]

don't start throwing this "she" **** at me plz

i'm a manly man thx

[spitfirejunky]

Sorry I would have never guessed.

[drewhet]

um no i'm not what's wrong with eating perversly fattening food?
I don't know what you just said, and i don't know how to answer that.

Well you know what? I don't give a **** about my health. You only live once, eat less ricecakes and more pancakes ffs.
Don't you realise how eating really bad now and smoking can affect your health 20-30 years from now? I've seen lots of adults with terrible health, like my dad, who is in and out of the hospital all the time for the past like 5 years, not to mention the terrible pain he is in. He just got a liver transplat a year ago, and we just found out yesterday that he has liver cancer. He also had to get all his teeth pulled out for an operation a couple years ago.

um but people do freak out about stuff like that becuase everyone wants people to stop eating anything that tastes good.
Yeah, it's a big conspiracy to make your life as ****ty as possible, everyone hates you.

Its simply moronic. I should have the choice to eat fatty foods smoke ciggerettes and watch midget animal photographs while burning the american flag. Not because I want to but because I can.
They are taking away our freedoms! Oh NO! Not the artificial-coronary heart disease-causing trans fats, F*CK.

[Tyr]

diet coke, no sugar, no fat, whole grain, baked lays. The substitutes are popping up everywhere.

I don't know, but those MIGHT be alternatives for those of us who don't want to eat the unhealthy alternatives.

[Scuba_Steve]

I don't know, but those MIGHT be alternatives for those of us who don't want to eat the unhealthy alternatives.



there is no way you can tell me that Aspartame is a healthy alternative.


theres no point banning one thing when you then have to move on to another thing just as dangerous.

[Tyr]

there is no way you can tell me that Aspartame is a healthy alternative.


theres no point banning one thing when you then have to move on to another thing just as dangerous.

The studies concerning aspartame differ in what results they get. Some state that aspartame is cancerogenic and some state that it's harmless. Some state that it's cancerogenic at really high doses.

But if you don't want aspartame, there are other substitutes. Or don't drink soft drinks at all. The discussion wasn't really about banning sugar either. I was just pointing out that there exist alternatives, but if you don't want them, stay away from them.

[djs]

If fat people want to be fat, let them. If they can't control themselves from eating unhealthy foods, they need help anyway.

If it makes food taste bad, then it's a stupid idea. If it tastes the same, then I have no problem with it. I don't really think the government should try and make an Aryan race out of its citizens, unless they want to actully provide healthcare.

[Chrizzle fo' Shizzle]

Don't you realise how eating really bad now and smoking can affect your health 20-30 years from now? I've seen lots of adults with terrible health, like my dad, who is in and out of the hospital all the time for the past like 5 years, not to mention the terrible pain he is in. He just got a liver transplat a year ago, and we just found out yesterday that he has liver cancer. He also had to get all his teeth pulled out for an operation a couple years ago

And if I still don't care about the risks, I should be allowed to poison my body with what ever food I please

THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD NOT BE YOUR MOMMY TELLING YOU TO EAT YOUR VEGETABLES

I don't know, but those MIGHT be alternatives for those of us who don't want to eat the unhealthy alternatives.

But what about the people who don't care about the health benefits and are eating purely based on taste? What I prefer the unhealthy choice? If somebody is willing to produce the product, and I willing to buy it, I should be allowed to do so

[Tyr]

But what about the people who don't care about the health benefits and are eating purely based on taste? What I prefer the unhealthy choice? If somebody is willing to produce the product, and I willing to buy it, I should be allowed to do so

You're more than welcome to do so. sexymuffin claimed that the healthy products are taking over and that there isn't an alternative. I just pointed out that the healthy alternatives are there for those of us who don't want the unhealthy stuff.

[Kayetan]

they won't taste nearly as good i garuntee itWendy's has already switched to using a cooking oil with no trans fats. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13201013/ I've eaten Wendy's food numerous times since they've change the oil. Neither I nor anyone else I know has noticed a difference in the way the food tastes. It's the same damn thing but healthier.

Aside from the fact the Mr. sexymuffin is an idiot, the government is out of line with even considering this. Of course it will make the food healthier, but if people want trans fats, then they should be allowed to have them.

[sexymuffin]

Aside from the fact the Mr. sexymuffin is an idiot

whoa whoa whoa

suck on my **** plz if you're going to be dropping retarded **** like that.

And eating at wendy's is for squares, hence the burger.

[Kayetan]

I usually get the spicy chicken sandwich anyway. But seriously, your opinions constantly suck.

[sexymuffin]

^ not really
You're more than welcome to do so. sexymuffin claimed that the healthy products are taking over and that there isn't an alternative. I just pointed out that the healthy alternatives are there for those of us who don't want the unhealthy stuff.

my point is how the world is telling everyone they're not good enough fifteen pounds overweight.

have you ever seen late night infomercials for weight loss pills or exercising machines? One of them had this exact quote,

"With [name of product] i was able to burn twenty ugly pounds."

Dieting is a fad now becuase of the weight problems america is going through, people will straight up tell me to my face how bad drinking soda is for me as if i don't already know. They hold their little halos up above their heads and preach about what the "right" diet is and look at people who don't follow their little eating plan as uninformed and stupid. Just because you eat wheat over white doesn't mean you're given some sort of absolution.

[MattyBlade]

I wouldn't have TOO much of a problem with this, I prefer a baked potato with sour cream, or like with broccoli and cheese anyways.

French fries have become a mainstay as a primary food intake for ALOT OF teenagers, or just busy people in general. They're easy to make, taste good, and they'll fill your heart with yellow gold!

However, It's kind of ludicrous to ban a food simply because of the reason it's unhealthy...

[-1up!-]

rofl @ whole thread.

Canada has banned trans fatty acids months ago, and there was absolutely no apparent change to anyone's eating habits. Trans fatty acids can be replaced by other methods/kinds of fat, not that I know a lot about how food is made, but nothing changed after the law was passed, except you could read "NO MORE TRANS FAT!" on your favorite Lay's bag of chips.

So lay down on the "0mg dey r gunna bann teh french frys!" 'Cause all the food industry's already set to make the switch and you won't feel a thing.

[sexymuffin]

well if i notice any change in the taste of my fries i'm writing a letter

[-1up!-]

Lay down the pen. You won't. :)

[spitfirejunky]

OK let's put things in perspective here. They're banning these fats because they're unhealthy, not because of the added bonus that they don't change the taste of food. As such, they can just as easily ban any other food product for the same reason, and one of these products may likely end up changing the taste of food.

[sexymuffin]

you raise a good point and i have no counter for it because i'm all for eating good food but if it doesn't change the taste then i don't care.

However, if it starts to change the taste, that's when imma flip the ****.

[spitfirejunky]

Well, to prevent any complications in the future that arise when food starts to taste different, they should just not ban anything at all.

[Lupus]

This is just the government trying to gain support by jumping on the diet bandwagon. This ban isn't going to make anyone healthier anyway.

[Amit]

i'm srsly though, it's all "ban this" "ban that" for the sake of our health.

Well you know what? I don't give a **** about my health. You only live once, eat less ricecakes and more pancakes ffs.

sorry to break it to you but your the consequences of your actions do affect others

see: healthcare in america

[MattyBlade]

OK let's put things in perspective here. They're banning these fats because they're unhealthy, not because of the added bonus that they don't change the taste of food. As such, they can just as easily ban any other food product for the same reason, and one of these products may likely end up changing the taste of food.

They really do change the taste of the food.

Ever had those sunflower oil chips ? They taste horrible compared to their unhealthy greasy counterparts.

[sexymuffin]

it's always about healthcare with you isn't it?

edit; to atmanz

[RNR]

I'm just so pathetic and weak that I need a government to protect me from what I eat. I'm sure glad that I have somebody to think for me and protect me from my ignorant self and those evil trans fat cooks! :)

/kill

Does anyone truly think that the role of government is to protect us from bad food? Terrorists and invading nations? Yes. Trans fats? wtf?

[Reaganista]

people shouldn't be allowed to sell me toxic 'food'

[RNR]

Well then why not ban the sale of all candy and soda products? Those will ruin your health too. And ban foods that are high in sodium while you're at it. In fact, if it's detrimental to your health, ban it! Ban it! Ban it! Ban it! Ban it! Ban it! Ban it!

And it's most certainly not toxic. It's just very bad for you.

[Amit]

it's always about healthcare with you isn't it?

edit; to atmanz

yes well in 10-25 years when the american healthcare system collapses into itself there won't be many lulz for you poor folks

[ChimPz]

Ban trans fats? Unlikely. Not while there's still a certain big corporation to lobby against it.

[semi]

this is a good idea.

[-1up!-]

They really do change the taste of the food.

Ever had those sunflower oil chips ? They taste horrible compared to their unhealthy greasy counterparts.

Sorry but sunflower oil chips were not designed to be a replacement to the mainstream chips. They're what you'd call an alternative, a by-product of the whole "natural/biological" nutrition trend.

[ringworm]

Anybody remember those chips that came out a long time ago that had a warning on the lable saying "May cause anal leakage" due to the Olestra used in it.

The Frito-Lay report states: "The anal oil leakage symptoms were observed in this study (3 to 9% incidence range above background), as well as other changes in elimination. . . . Underwear spotting was statistically significant in one of two low level consumer groups at a 5% incidence above background." Despite those problems, the authors of the report concluded that olestra-containing snacks "should have a high potential for acceptance in the marketplace."

lol

[-1up!-]

I laughed hard at that one

[Chrizzle fo' Shizzle]

people shouldn't be allowed to sell me toxic 'food'

But if I'm willing to buy toxic "food", and somebody is willing to sell it to me, why can't we?

[Reaganista]

as long as they don't call it food or pass it off as anything that any person should ever eat I have no problem with them selling it

[Krabsworth]

Hey NY let me eat whatever I want kthx

[DBoons Ghost]

You know, there was a time in this country when you were actually responsible for yourself, and were totally accountable for your own actions.

Nowadays, we've got ourselves a system of healthcare and insurance that unfortunatly relies on the good of others as well as some semblance of responsiblity for yourself.

I think a banning of an unhealthy but tasty food product is moronic in so many ways, but at the same time, it changes very little. See, insurance policies for smokers suck, because we know smoking kills. Nothing politically incorrect about saying that smoking is bad for you, and brings down the overall health of everyone around you if you smoke. Fat unhealthy obese people get a free ride, as do alchoholics as far as insurance is concerned. Alcholics and fat people die more then smokers do as a result of their unhealthy lifestyle, yet they don't pay higher premuims. Fat people especially, because it's politically incorrect to tell someone they have to pay more because their average size body wasn't designed to carry 400 plus pounds. So what do we have? Uncle Sam telling us what's good for us. If they can't control it one way, they do this. Now, I think this is lot more to do with insurance premiums, and I am all for it. How many fat lazy sacks are right now drumming up law suits aimed at places like Krisy Kreme? Like, it's their fault some fatty got fat? No. It's a total lack of self control.

Between court costs, insurance premiums, healthcare costs, and all self worth thrown out the window, what else would you have them do?

The same arguement could be presented for or against the same criteria strumming up the War on Drugs, but Drugs are illegal to begin with. However, those responsible drug users suffer because of those too weak to control their habits. So we pay for rehab and court costs and imprison people for life for selling drugs. Eh.

I think I rambled a bit.

[anal gravy]

oh who cares if people have any self control they wont eat them

on another note yesterday they changed all the schools pop vending machines to water!

[Amit]

But if I'm willing to buy toxic "food", and somebody is willing to sell it to me, why can't we?

healthcare costs go up

[John Paul Harrison]

healthcare costs go up

Is sacrificing personal freedoms for lower healthcare overhead a fair trade to you?

I certainly put more value on the former.

[italic zero]

I sure value that freedom to eat substances that have no nutritious or culinary value.

[Erik6387]

Instead of banning everything, howbout you just leave the truth out there for people to listen to if they want to. I enjoy my right to eat fried potato wedges. I couldn't care less about actual French fries (which aren't even originally from France). Belgian fries anyone?

[John Paul Harrison]

I sure value that freedom to eat substances that have no nutritious or culinary value.

I'd imagine posting on an internet forum has no real health value.

We could lower obesity rates by regulating your TV and internet usage?

[italic zero]

that is an absolutely horrendous analogy

[Amit]

Is sacrificing personal freedoms for lower healthcare overhead a fair trade to you?

I certainly put more value on the former.

haha then you are a naive fool

sacrificing the personal freedom to eat french fries is a perfectly acceptable alternative to a horridly depressed economy and living standards

[John Paul Harrison]

I would hardly call America a "depressed economy" or say they have low living standards. Would you? Or perhaps you implied another country?

Personally, I don't care very much for fried foods. But it greatly confuses me as to why such a ban is being taken seriously. When did the government have the right to even consider this?

[semi]

when it got voted in.

[Reaganista]

Instead of banning everything, howbout you just leave the truth out there for people to listen to if they want to. I enjoy my right to eat fried potato wedges. I couldn't care less about actual French fries (which aren't even originally from France). Belgian fries anyone?
I've come to the conclusion that every post that ends in 'anyone?' is a horrible point and probably not worth bringing up at all

[Amit]

I would hardly call America a "depressed economy" or say they have low living standards. Would you? Or perhaps you implied another country?

that's what is going to happen if the american healthcare system collapses (which it seems to be right on track for becoming right now)

hehe

[sexymuffin]

so maybe like dboon said, we should change our health insurance policies.

[lawlstorm]

oh who cares if people have any self control they wont eat them

on another note yesterday they changed all the schools pop vending machines to water!

this year my school instituted this whole "wellness policy". basically they make everything "single serving" and hike up the price. What's ironic is that they still have all the fatty foods as before, extremely greasy french fries, mozzerella sticks and the infamous traveling taco (fatty meat and nacho cheese slopped inside a bag of fritos), but the only thing that seems to be reduced is the serving size of drink. this year you pay pretty much the same price for half the amount of iced tea for example, and im pretty sure america's kids arent getting fat off of milk :-\. not to mention this also keeps teachers, and students from selling things like candy for charity.

i forgot to mention that last year my school was pretty much the only school in the area to turn a profit in the cafeteria, and im pretty sure that's not supposed to happen. So i geuss the only "logical" thing to do is to hike up the prices and make more money. My neighbor used to work as a seceretary and she would always tell me about the crazy schemes they ran to skim money off the top. so this doesn't surprise me one bit.

anyway thats my pointless rant for the day :chug:

[Erik6387]

War times create false prosperity in the economy...I can't wait until this massive debt comes back to us.

[Eliminator]

you forgot to add "anyone?" at the end of that post

[Electronic Wolf]

I have no problem with the ban.

[Aus_rock_god]

So, let me get this straight.

The US of A beleives that in order to aliviate themselves of the problem of being the world's fattest nation, they're going to treat its people as kids and ban fatty foods???

What a f*cking joke.

Exercise is better then a change of diet in the way of getting healthy, so how about encoraging exercise instead of banning fatty foods.

Better still, how about getting all the fat american welfare bludgers off the couch by making it compulsary that they attend a gym once a week in order to get their payments.

Australia has "Work For The Dole", America shoud have "Jog For The Dole"

Fight fat and unemployment at the same time.

I say: Let the fatties have their fries, but make them jog it off.

[Amit]

yeah because america is the only nation in the world with obesity problems

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/09/11/1063268519106.html?from=storyrhs

[Aus_rock_god]

Yeah, but that's only because Australia is America's little brother.

[Amit]

you are coffee mug shattering hilarious

[Aus_rock_god]

Whatever Eggo.

*throws a whopper burger*

Fetch.

[sexymuffin]

he'll only fetch if it's drenched in curry powder

[drewhet]

So, let me get this straight.

The US of A beleives that in order to aliviate themselves of the problem of being the world's fattest nation, they're going to treat its people as kids and ban fatty foods???

What a f*cking joke.

Exercise is better then a change of diet in the way of getting healthy, so how about encoraging exercise instead of banning fatty foods.

Better still, how about getting all the fat american welfare bludgers off the couch by making it compulsary that they attend a gym once a week in order to get their payments.

Australia has "Work For The Dole", America shoud have "Jog For The Dole"

Fight fat and unemployment at the same time.

I say: Let the fatties have their fries, but make them jog it off.


it's not about weight, it's about health issues. you can be on the slim side and still have serious health issues due to eating really unealthy food

[italic zero]

you may have heard of the Atkins diet

[sexymuffin]

it's not about weight, it's about health issues. you can be on the slim side and still have serious health issues due to eating really unealthy food

so who decides which foods are too unhealthy to be eaten by the citizens?

[italic zero]

we do, eg meat that has been left unrefrigerated

[RockAndRoll]

That reminds me, when I went to through the states at the end of this summer (Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, New York) we stopped in a lot of small diners and whatnot and a few of them had signs saying "this food may be raw or undercooked, before eating here please contact your physician or family doctor about what heath risks this may pose you." Or something to that effect. We loled really hard. Actually I found there were a lot of really weird and funny signs, especially ones saying that the hot water was hot :lol:.

[drewhet]

http://www.fitnessandfreebies.com/fitness/transfats.html

[WhoDidTheElf]

That reminds me, when I went to through the states at the end of this summer (Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, New York) we stopped in a lot of small diners and whatnot and a few of them had signs saying "this food may be raw or undercooked, before eating here please contact your physician or family doctor about what heath risks this may pose you." Or something to that effect. We loled really hard. Actually I found there were a lot of really weird and funny signs, especially ones saying that the hot water was hot :lol:.

America has some of the fattest and the some of the dumbest mother ****ers I must admit.

[RockAndRoll]

:lol: it was hilarious, but actually I had a really good time going through the states. Beautiful area, Burlington especially was one of my favourite places.

[Secumbro]

Why not just let people know how unhealthy trans fats are for them and let them decide for themselves? Banning trans fat just seems kind of idiotic.

[Electronic Wolf]

I don't trust Americans to make good decisions concerning their physical health.

[Secumbro]

I don't trust Americans to make good decisions concerning their physical health.
Neither does their government, apparently :p

[Antifa]

That reminds me, when I went to through the states at the end of this summer (Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, New York) we stopped in a lot of small diners and whatnot and a few of them had signs saying "this food may be raw or undercooked, before eating here please contact your physician or family doctor about what heath risks this may pose you." Or something to that effect. We loled really hard. Actually I found there were a lot of really weird and funny signs, especially ones saying that the hot water was hot :lol:.

What can I say, we're miserable, like to sue others and we hate taxes.

[Antifa]

Of course we should ban French fries. They're now Freedom fries.

[Zesty Mordant]

um yeah, that was 3 years ago.

[Secumbro]

um yeah, that was 3 years ago.
And it's still just as hilarious.

[Zesty Mordant]

not really, its as old as "I'm Rick James, bitch"

[Secumbro]

Did anyone actually abide by that whole "freedom/liberty replacing french" thing?

[Electronic Wolf]

No. People sometimes liked to fool around, but it was more annoying than funny.

[spitfirejunky]

I've only ever heard anyone call them "fries," so I guess not. Who even says "french fries" these days?

[sexymuffin]

we do, eg meat that has been left unrefrigerated

but that's food that's gone bad, not necessarily food that's bad for you.

i mean, where do we draw the line? Trans fat is bad for us yes, but so are oreos. Should we ban oreos? What about sushi? Which is raw and potentionally poisoness. Ban sushi?

hell, why don't we just set up a meal plan for everyone in america and have them follow it?

[Secumbro]

but that's food that's gone bad, not necessarily food that's bad for you.

i mean, where do we draw the line? Trans fat is bad for us yes, but so are oreos. Should we ban oreos? What about sushi? Which is raw and potentionally poisoness. Ban sushi?

hell, why don't we just set up a meal plan for everyone in america and have them follow it?
You must really like your fries. :p

[drewhet]

this is different. possibly comparable to asbestos. it was created as a fire retardant, but later found out it causes cancer. trans fats are chemicals put in foods, which have absolutely no nutritional value and cause health issues. fats and cholesteral are needed in small amounts, but trans fats are not needed in any amount at all.

[sexymuffin]

so why do they put them in food to begin with? is there no reason at all to it and someone one day was just like "hey let's put some trans fat in this for no reason at all"?

[drewhet]

edit: it has to do with shelf life of food, they last longer without going bad as quickly. i'm not 100% on that, i'll look it up now

http://www.webmd.com/content/article/71/81217.htm

read the bottom "where did trans fats come from?"

[Electronic Wolf]

I thought it was used in place of something else to save money.

[Zesty Mordant]

so why do they put them in food to begin with? is there no reason at all to it and someone one day was just like "hey let's put some trans fat in this for no reason at all"?

Actually, I its the outcome of hydrogenation which allows food products to last longer without refrigeration (ie. make them no longer become food). As a result they replace natural fatty acids that they body actually needs. in all reality, trans-fats are like tonsils: there's no ****ing use for them.

No one is gonna ban french fries, they just want to regulate the process in which they are made.

[sexymuffin]

edit: it has to do with shelf life of food, they last longer without going bad as quickly. i'm not 100% on that, i'll look it up now

http://www.webmd.com/content/article/71/81217.htm

read the bottom "where did trans fats come from?"

according to that article they already passed a law that states food companies need to make the public aware that there are trans fats in the food on the packaging. Why do we need to go as far as banning them? If they keep my wheat thins tasting as good for longer then I really couldn't care less if they're bad for me.

[drewhet]

you know, you're just really ****ing ignorant. i'm not even going to argue with you anymore

[sexymuffin]

um no i read the article and it says it's to preserve the flavor of food for longer.

if i want to eat food like that, i should be allowed to. Calling me ignorant and saying you don't want to argue is just a cop-out.

[drewhet]

you are ignorant in general, and no it's not a cop out. there is no point in aruging with you.

[Electronic Wolf]

Drewhet is right.

[sexymuffin]

i'm ignorant becuase i believe that i should be able to buy whatever type of food i want even if it's detrimental to my health?

well if that's ignorance then i do not wish to be enlightened.

[Electronic Wolf]

It's not going to end your life. Calm down.

[sexymuffin]

I never said it was, wtf are you talking about.

[beso negro]

Hydrogenation increases the shelf life and flavor stability of foods.

;)

People are mistakingly comparing junk food to cigarettes. You can't live on a desert island with just cigarettes, but you can with fritos. Banning Trans Fats will just lead to more stuff, like banning saturated fats.

[Electronic Wolf]

I never said it was, wtf are you talking about.
You're almost crying about. Oh noes, I want my food to taste the same. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

[Secumbro]

Well, the point he is making is that he has the right to put whatever he wants into his body. Which he does. He feels that the banning of trans fats will take that right away from him, which it would. Essentially, I feel that banning trans fat IS completely retarded, as it's not the ONLY thing that's ever come around to being proven bad for your health. Just make people more aware of the dangers, is that so hard?

[Electronic Wolf]

In a country like America, yes.

[sexymuffin]

You're almost crying about. Oh noes, I want my food to taste the same. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

Um no, not at all. Just because I don't want them to ban trans fat doesn't mean i'm crying about it. I could say the same about you.

For example: "you're practically crying about banning trans fat. Oh noes, it's bad for you. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa."

post better please.

[Electronic Wolf]

You should do the same.

[Secumbro]

In a country like America, yes.
Even disguised as an ad for instant chicken wings?

[sexymuffin]

You should do the same.

and how have i been posting bad in this thread?

[Electronic Wolf]

Do you read any of your posts?

[sexymuffin]

examples and reasons please.

[MrSigma]

just call em freedom frys and they will be allowed

[Lupus]

You're almost crying about. Oh noes, I want my food to taste the same. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

This post is immature, stupid and just proves you have no point.

[Electronic Wolf]

Are you still going to flip a **** and write a letter if your fries taste differently?

[sexymuffin]

Are you still going to flip a **** and write a letter if your fries taste differently?

what does this have to do with the thread.

please post constructively in this forum or don't post at all. You're not making any point whatsoever, so you're just burning bandwidth.

[Reaganista]

Did anyone actually abide by that whole "freedom/liberty replacing french" thing?
they changed the name of a menu item in some house of representative cafeterias
it had absolutely no bearing on anyone outside of there
and it was a joke
damn you people are dumb

[Zesty Mordant]

not as dumb as the people that took it seriously

[davo_guitarman]

Article:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060927/ap_on_he_me/diet_trans_fat_ban

Quite a radical idea. Your thoughts, PNWI forum?
couldnt care less, it would make the world that tiny bit healthier, im all for it

[Reaganista]

not as dumb as the people that took it seriously
what the **** do you mean took it seriously
there was nothing to take seriously

[Zesty Mordant]

sorry, what I meant was:

not as dumb as the people that took it seriously

[Reaganista]

there was nothing to take seriously

even if an average citizen read the directive and consciously decided to adhere to all of its precepts this would affect their life in no way whatsoever, seeing as they don't eat in the house of representatives cafeteria

[Zesty Mordant]

so? people still called it freedom fries for serious jingoistic purposes, regardless of the fact that the house of representatives cafeteria proclaimed as a joke in the first place. Hell, most citizens probably didn't know it even originated there.

[Amit]

ummm i can't even recall one person calling them freedom fries

especially not for serious jingoistic purposes

because you know, thin fried potato slices are serious

and jingoistic

[Zesty Mordant]

i remember when travelling through Kentucky, Tennessee and Georgia in March 2003 and at least on a few occassions, diners I was eating at were actually referring to fries as "freedom fries".

All I'm saying is that sometimes, people get caught up in pointless jingoism even if its intended as a joke and that food, specifically has a tendency to get "jingoized". Hell, saurkraut was referred to as "liberty cabbage" during WWII.

[Antifa]

I've only ever heard anyone call them "fries," so I guess not. Who even says "french fries" these days?

Not a patriot, that's for sure.

[Iskandar]

Hell, saurkraut was referred to as "liberty cabbage" during WWII.
Now Hitler, that was a sour Kraut!

[Reaganista]

so? people still called it freedom fries for serious jingoistic purposes
well the trend that you mentioned in southern restaurants and diners began well before the house directive, which was a joking reference to jokes about french people
and there's no serious jingoism taking place as there's zero probability of the US going to war with france any time in the forseable future