Clinton vs Wallace Interview

[ringworm]

Has anyone seen the interview yet?

I though Billy Boy was going to have a freakin heart attack he got so irrate with Chris Wallace. His face almost turned purple at one point.

In the interview, which was taped on Friday, Clinton lashed out at Fox's Chris Wallace, accusing him of promising to discuss Clinton's initiative on climate change, then straying from the issue by asking why the former president didn't do more to "put bin Laden and al Qaeda out of business."

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/09/24/clinton.binladen/index.html

http://news.google.com/news?q=wallace+clinton+interview&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&client=safari&rls=en&sa=X&oi=news&ct=title

[-1up!-]

What else to expect from FOX News?

[Auberge le Mouton Noir]

What else to expect from FOX News?

flat lies?

[stevensonmat2]

Fox interviews=bear bateing

[Serpento]

flat lies? Hot air, duh. Clinton definitely had an anyeurism that night, albeit a silent one.

[ringworm]

^^lol, he needs to watch himself, it's not been that long ago he had major heart surgery.

[niobium]

http://www.break.com/index/purple_faced_rage.html

[Mr. Ron]

He wasn't that angry.

[Yield]

Didn't he have an interview with Jon Stewart not too long ago? Why go on Fox news anyways

[MyShrimpDied]

Because those are the people accusing him of letting 9/11 happen.

[stevensonmat2]

Id let fox say it all they want, because then people would think its not true.

[Yield]

only a dumbass would think it was true in the first place... wait a second, america is land of the stupid. Bills pretty much screwed

[stevensonmat2]

Hey dude I live in NC too! Henderson to be precise.

[Yield]

I'm up here in G'Boro, represent!

but seriously, why get so angry at fox news.

[stevensonmat2]

im not angry at fox news, I dont even watch it. I do however take the chance to get cheap shots in on anyone when I can. :D

[JohnXDoe]

i saw it. i thought bill handled himself well. he wasn't rude to wallace. just told him at one point to "wipe that smirk from your face". it was cool. i like bill. too bad about the whole monica thing. otherwise he's aces in my book.

[Jude]

I'm not going to bother watching it.

I just wonder why a former president would even bother involving himself with something that's as much of a joke as Fox News.

[EinzingerIsGod]

I'm not going to bother watching it.

I just wonder why a former president would even bother involving himself with something that's as much of a joke as Fox News.

If he didn't they'd bash him for not showing up.

[MattSharpIsCool]

Clinton probably thought he might be able to make a decent showing for himself on the most wacked-out network on TV. It failed miserably, but at least he tried to reach out to the other side some.

[Knifeboy]

Christ, if this is what you americans call "Purple Faced Rage", you must have the most pussified politicians ever.
I think Clinton handled himself amazingly well, not once did he raise his voice

This seems like the conservatives trying to make fun of him to disguise the fact that he completely pwned all of them

[Samuel]

Midterm elections. This is getting a whole load of coverage, and although some of it is of the Clinton goes mad variety (which I don't think he does), it's finally getting what actually happened during his administration out there. I saw the whole thing last night, and it was a good performance by him. Clearly pre-meditated, but it makes a pleasant change to see Democratic politicians actually defend themselves aggressively.

Yep. It's a good thing to set the tone with for this year's debates, IMO. Not quite as agressive, but maybe a bit more fire from the left.

I thought he handled himself very well.

[JohnXDoe]

I'm not going to bother watching it.

I just wonder why a former president would even bother involving himself with something that's as much of a joke as Fox News.

he's doing a lot of press to promote this new thing he has going, the name of which eludes me at this time. raising money for the poor, Katrina victims, education, etc. here and abroad. and its something he and Bush Sr. have worked on together. and of course to do some glad handing for the democrats for the elections. but his charitable work has gone far and is going well. and yeah, he'll even sit down with FOX to get the word out. he says that although in the bigger scheme of things he does much less then he could as Pres from his postion today, that with some things he can actually do more. just on a smaller scale because the focus is tight and politics doesn't get in the way.

sort of sad that in a nation as powerful and as wealthy as ours it takes begging from former Presidents to get some things done any government with our resources should be able to readily handle. and it pisses me off, but there 'ya go...

watching bill these days it makes me sad to know we had a good leader not very long ago. whatever you may think of him personally. bill took trips all over the world and people threw roses at his feet. they wanted to reach out and touch him. he balanced budgets, brought the nation a surplus, took care of business in the former yugoslavia, the economy boomed (to his credit or not) and he was a master at bringing people together. and if things weren't quite that good then, remembering those day now and comparing them to what we have now so far as leadership is concerned, they sure do seem golden from afar.

Clinton-Clinton '08 :(

[Volumnius Flush]

I feel sorry for Clinton. I really do. Imagine the burden he has to carry around knowing he let one of the world's most vicious, evil, hateful, murderous, Allah-loving, Christian-bashing, SOB's get away. Remember the way he paraded through New York after 9/11 shaking hands? He knew from that Tuesday on it was the biggest mistake he'd ever made.

[Auberge le Mouton Noir]

I feel sorry for Clinton. I really do. Imagine the burden he has to carry around knowing he let one of the world's most vicious, evil, hateful, murderous, Allah-loving, Christian-bashing, SOB's get away. Remember the way he paraded through New York after 9/11 shaking hands? He knew from that Tuesday on it was the biggest mistake he'd ever made.

One imagines that it's not as heavy as the burden of 50 000 innocent iraqi casualties in a war that's left your beloved America no safer.

[JohnXDoe]

it's not like it was going to be easy getting him. we weren't at war at the time. and if you recall pre 9/11 to put American troops anywhere for any reason was a big deal. the unthinkable has truly happened and now we are dealing with it. bush let bin escape when he didn't go after him with ground troops in Tora Bora. the guy was already apologizing to his soldiers for leading them to their deaths. and we let him go. and now we don't even have the heart to go into pakistan and look for him. instead we look to Iran. yeah, good going on that one.

clinton did all he could under the circumstances. he did what was reasonable. we've been attacked since then. and the only real thing we have accomplished thus far with our "War On Terror" is to bring death and hardship to the people of Iraq and help make the world a more dangerous place. not a very good plan, IMO.

[xdarnold]

that is very cool

[xdarnold]

woops- edit not reply!

[Bron-Yr-Aur]

I feel sorry for Clinton. I really do. Imagine the burden he has to carry around knowing he let one of the world's most vicious, evil, hateful, murderous, Allah-loving, Christian-bashing, SOB's get away. Remember the way he paraded through New York after 9/11 shaking hands? He knew from that Tuesday on it was the biggest mistake he'd ever made.
Pretty much what JXD said. However, let us pretend for a moment that Clinton actually did stand aside and hold the door open until his term was up. What about Bush? As stated, he had almost a year to find Bin Laden, or merely to make some sort of effort to, which he, inadvertantly I'm sure, didn't do. Why don't you critcize him as well?

I also thought Clinton handled himself most amicably.

[Dannyboy15]

(CBS/AP) Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice challenged former President Bill Clinton's claim that he did more than many of his conservative critics to pursue al Qaeda, saying in an interview published Tuesday that the Bush administration aggressively pursued the group even before the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

"What we did in the eight months was at least as aggressive as what the Clinton administration did in the preceding years," Rice said during a meeting with editors and reporters at the New York Post.

The newspaper published her comments after Mr. Clinton appeared on "Fox News Sunday" in a combative interview in which he defended his handling of the threat posed by Osama bin Laden and said he "worked hard" to have the al Qaeda leader killed.

"That's the difference in me and some, including all of the right-wingers who are attacking me now," Mr. Clinton said in the interview. "They ridiculed me for trying. They had eight months to try, they did not try."

Rice disputed his assessment.

"The notion somehow for eight months the Bush administration sat there and didn't do that is just flatly false — and I think the 9/11 commission understood that," she said.

Asked about Mr. Clinton's comments Tuesday, President Bush declined to comment.

"I don't have enough time to finger point," he said at a joint White House news conference with Afghan President Hamid Karzai.

Rice also took exception to Mr. Clinton's statement that he "left a comprehensive anti-terror strategy" for incoming officials when he left office.

"We were not left a comprehensive strategy to fight al Qaeda," she told the newspaper, which is owned by News Corp., the same company that owns Fox News Channel.

In the interview, Mr. Clinton accused host Chris Wallace of a "conservative hit job" and asked: "I want to know how many people in the Bush administration you asked, 'Why didn't you do anything about the Cole?' I want to know how many people you asked, 'Why did you fire Dick Clarke?"'

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Rice portrayed the departure of former White House anti-terrorism chief Richard A. Clarke differently, saying he "left when he did not become deputy director of homeland security."

The reference to the Cole related to the attack on the USS Cole in 2000.

The interview has been the focus of much attention – drawing nearly 1.2 million views on YouTube and earning the show its best ratings in nearly three years.

Rice questioned the value of the dialogue.

"I think this is not a very fruitful discussion," she said. "We've been through it. The 9/11 commission has turned over every rock and we know exactly what they said."

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton saw it differently.

"I just think that my husband did a great job in demonstrating that Democrats are not going to take this," she told Newsday Monday.

Wallace said Sunday he was surprised by Mr. Clinton's "conspiratorial view" of "a very non-confrontational question, 'Did you do enough to connect the dots and go after al Qaeda?"'

"All I did was ask him a question, and I think it was a legitimate news question. I was surprised that he would conjure up that this was a hit job," Wallace said in a telephone interview.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/09/26/politics/main2039404.shtml

[WhoDidTheElf]

One imagines that it's not as heavy as the burden of 50 000 innocent iraqi casualties in a war that's left your beloved America no safer.

But of course removing a dictator, that killed over 600,000 of his own people, from power would make life a little easier. And did actually make America safer.

[Reaganista]

well he kinda made an *** of himself
not because he was angry
because he was lying on tv
again
and making ridiculous assumptions about mike wallace's imagined agenda

[Dannyboy15]

But of course removing a dictator, that killed over 600,000 of his own people, from power would make life a little easier. And did actually make America safer.

Look at the bright side, atleast Saddam could keep order.

[WhoDidTheElf]

Look at the bright side, atleast Saddam could keep order.

Yeah look on the bright side, women had no rights, people were afraid to speak out against him, voting was stacked and mass murder! Oh yeah those were the days.

[spitfirejunky]

I refuse to pay tax dollars to free people who prefer stability over freedom.

[666Ozzfan]

That's something I see most american people obsessing over. The word 'freedom'. I don't think US needs to play 'dad' of the world family. Over here we kinda get that impression, that the US thinks it needs to be the one handing out punishments and/or freedom tickets.

Yes, you guys got rid of Saddam, but did it have to be so messy?

[AA-12]

Yeah look on the bright side, women had no rights, people were afraid to speak out against him, voting was stacked and mass murder! Oh yeah those were the days.

Yep. We did a great thing for them.

[MattSharpIsCool]

That's something I see most american people obsessing over. The word 'freedom'. I don't think US needs to play 'dad' of the world family. Over here we kinda get that impression, that the US thinks it needs to be the one handing out punishments and/or freedom tickets.

Yes, you guys got rid of Saddam, but did it have to be so messy?

It is a bit ridiculous, but then again, the US is the dominant superpower in the world at this moment. If they were to sit by and leave everyone alone, people all over would be complaining they dont do enough.

[666Ozzfan]

What you could do, is instead of spending as much as you do on military, and give it to third world countries as aid for food/medicine/education.

[AA-12]

How's that going to stop something like Saddam>

[666Ozzfan]

I didn't say get rid of the military. I said not to spend as much as you do now

[Knifeboy]

If the war was about removing a dictator and making the world a better place, there were far worse dictators, and far cheaper wars to wage... Mugabe anyone?

[Auberge le Mouton Noir]

But of course removing a dictator, that killed over 600,000 of his own people, from power would make life a little easier. And did actually make America safer.

yeah but it didn't though, did it?

[Dr Nihil]

I can tell I won't make many friends on the politics board.

Clinton is a liar and a murderer. He lost his composure in the interview because Wallace was poking the skeletons in his closet. Pre-election, no politician wants you to see those skeletons. I hold nothing but contempt for the former president.

It's hard to dislike Clinton when all you will ever know about him is what comes out of a politician's mouth.

[WhoDidTheElf]

yeah but it didn't though, did it?

How did it not?

I didn't say get rid of the military. I said not to spend as much as you do now

Governments first job is to protect the people. Currently the milarty gets around 15-16% of the national bugget. Durring the WWII pre/post area it was 45-50%. 48-52%(edit: Todays national budget) of the national budget goes to social problems and paying Government employee's. (Mainly Rep's and Senate mebers)

[Auberge le Mouton Noir]

How did it not?

Because there were no terrorists in Iraq that were a threat to the western world, and his WMD had been destroyed way back?

[WhoDidTheElf]

Because there were no terrorists in Iraq that were a threat to the western world

I really find that hard to believe.

and his WMD had been destroyed way back?

*cough syria cough*

[Auberge le Mouton Noir]

I really find that hard to believe.

That's because you're a bigot!

*cough syria cough*

What has syria got to do with anything? It was IRAQ you invaded, silly.

[666Ozzfan]

US: "Iraq you have WMD's"
Iraq: "No we don't"
US: "Yes you do"
N. Korea: "Over here! Hello! We've got them"
US: "Shut up N. Korea. Iraq - You have WMD's. We're going to attack you if you don't get rid of them"
Iraq: "We don't have any"
N.Korea: "Ooh, ooh, pick us! We have them"
US: "Shut up N. Korea. We're trying to get rid of Iraqs WMDs! IRAQ!!!!"

etc etc.....

[deathscreamingsheep]

women had no rights

Wrong. Women were perfectly able to wear what they want and have careers unlike now where they will be attacked by extremists.

I really find that hard to believe.

Why?

[WhoDidTheElf]

Wrong. Women were perfectly able to wear what they want and have careers unlike now where they will be attacked by extremists.

Oh yeah I remeber now, they were able to go to school, had fair and equal trials for their said crimes, and weren't treated like dirt in the work place. It's all coming back to me now.

[Reaganista]

Wrong. Women were perfectly able to wear what they want and have careers
no one had any rights you asshat

[Dr Nihil]

US: "Iraq you have WMD's"
Iraq: "No we don't"
US: "Yes you do"
N. Korea: "Over here! Hello! We've got them"
US: "Shut up N. Korea. Iraq - You have WMD's. We're going to attack you if you don't get rid of them"
Iraq: "We don't have any"
N.Korea: "Ooh, ooh, pick us! We have them"
US: "Shut up N. Korea. We're trying to get rid of Iraqs WMDs! IRAQ!!!!"

etc etc.....

Pre-Iraq War, Saddam definitely had ties to Islamic terrorism and was a supplier in a few attacks that I can recall. There are numerous reports and articles floating around the internet, based during the time of the invasion of Iraq. If you care, I will leave it up to you to find those.

Due to the UN's inaction, Iraq was able to buy plenty of time to get rid of its WMD stash. If you believe otherwise, you're just a blind fool--there is no other way of putting it. We were able to uncover apporximately 500 weapons munitions containing degraded mustard and sarin nerve agents, but even that was largely ignored by everyone, save a few online independent journalists.

[Dr Nihil]

He's undoubtedly a liar. Unless you subscribe to one of the Vince Foster conspiracy theories, I don't know where you're getting the murderer bit from.

Jim McDougal, Vince Foster, Ron Brown, Jerry Luther Parks, and Kathy Ferguson. Those are some of the more well-known names of the people associated with Clinton, people that were going to expose him for what he is--people that are now dead, murdered, no suspects, planned suicides. Look them up, get the known facts. The rest is up to you to decide.

Remember Whitewater? Clinton certainly turned out okay.

Degraded weapons that were left over from the first Gulf War and Iran/Iraq war. They couldn't have been used against us and weren't active. It's not a media conspiracy that means that the story hasn't been published, it's the fact that the weapons aren't especially significant. If we'd found active WMD or evidence of an active WMD program, don't you think that the Bush and Blair governments would have been trumpeting it every day since the story broke.

The whole point was that Iraq violated UN sanctions, starting with the very first. They've had them all along, we didn't even search all the sites. The 500 weapons munitions we did find is indication enough that further search would most likely uncover even more, possibly active munitions. Saddam lied for a reason. But we will never know, and 99.9% of the public will still say, "No, they were never there to begin with. Bush is a simple war-monger."

Though it's a moot point and not one I was trying to twist in the first place, nerve agents, even degarded, are still potentially lethal. Good thing no one took a dab on the finger to test that theory, eh?

[MattyBlade]

oh man i heard this on the telephone one day (when we transfer to NYC we can hear the news) he was getting so pissed off at wallace and started rifling on about IM THE ONE WHO ALMOST KILLED HIM, I ORDERED HIM DEAD. I'M THE ONE WHO WAS THE CLOSEST TO KILLING HIM!

[JohnXDoe]

Clinton never murdered anyone. or had anyone murdered. that is flat out silly.

[MattyBlade]

Clinton never murdered anyone. or had anyone murdered. that is flat out silly.

No john. It was in the interview he started getting really pissed at the guy about something (I'm almost positive it was clinton) talking about how he ordered osama bin laden to be killed an how he was the closest one ever to killing him/having him assassinated. He tried many times apparently.

edit:

quote from ny1.com (where i heard the news)

Things heated up on "Fox News Sunday" when Chris Wallace asked former President Bill Clinton if he did enough to go after Osama bin Laden.

"I worked hard to try to kill him. I authorized the findings for the CIA kill him. We contracted with people to kill him. I've got closer to killing him than anybody's gotten since. And if I were still president, we'd have more than 20,000 troops there trying to kill him," said Clinton. "Now, I've never criticized President Bush, and I don't think this is useful. But you know we do have a government that thinks Afghanistan is only one-seventh as important as Iraq."

The former president also accused Wallace of doing a "conservative hit job."

Regarding a French intelligence report that bin Laden may have died of typhoid recently, a top French official said as far as he knows Bin Laden is still alive

[Reaganista]

That's because you're a bigot!
irony

Governments first job is to protect the people. Currently the milarty gets around 15-16% of the national bugget. Durring the WWII pre/post area it was 45-50%. 48-52%(edit: Todays national budget) of the national budget goes to social problems

you mean social security

and paying Government employee's. (Mainly Rep's and Senate mebers)
lol
no not even close

[Dr Nihil]

Well he got impeached as a result of an investigation that spun off from the Whitewater investigation. The fact that he didn't face criminal charges on anything related to Whitewater in spite of a massive investigation into it is probably because there's no evidence he broke the law. I've seen the rumours about the deaths you mentioned and think that they're nonsense, frankly.

I'm pretty sure that when the president makes it to where he has friends in all major agencies, it's pretty easy to cover your tracks. It's easy to say it's "nonsense" when you like Clinton and just refuse to believe he's a bad person--whatever, that's cool. His temper is infamous...you don't think it's the least bit suspicious that all these people show up dead, mysteriously, that wanted to expose him for what he was? His opposition? People that had completely relevant ties to his scandals and drug trafficking?

We've searched pretty comprehensively. As for your 99.9% of the public number, large numbers of people believe that Iraq had WMD when we invaded still (http://www.washtimes.com/national/20060724-110410-8309r.htm), so that number is simply false. The Bush administration, Blair government and CIA all accept that there were no WMD in Iraq, and they've got more of an interest in the opposite being the case than any other groups. They didn't exist.

The page you link to is gone. Yeah, we searched "pretty comprehensively" all right, but not all the sites. Even with the one stash we found, I find it interesting that you can still say they simply didn't exist. Saddam has used them on his own people. When attached to a warhead, sarin and mustard nerve agents have the potential to kill thousands--that's mass, I don't care what anyone says, and we found them.

Since I'm not really sure what you were linking to, I'll just say: I can make a poll that says Bush is the best president ever, but would you believe it? Probably not. I don't think anyone would.

The people I see interviewed on TV, the comedians, the celebrities, people I talk to at work, my family (except for my dad)--they all think Bush was lying the whole time, that there never were WMDs. My gross generalization was useless, yeah, apologies. I should've said "as far as I can tell" or something.

[WhoDidTheElf]

lol
no not even close

I got these statistics from my Gov/Econ book, which in turn got them from the national treasury or something along those lines. So laugh all you want...

[TheGoat]

If Bush is that bad then I don't know why he didnt try to fake some evidence that there was some WMD in Iraq. =\

[Erik6387]

If Bush is that bad then I don't know why he didnt try to fake some evidence that there was some WMD in Iraq. =\

He still got the general public to believe that they DEFINITELY had WMDs. He didn't say, "Them Iraqi's might possibly have some of them Weapons Of uhhhh...Mass Destruction".

[Reaganista]

didn't do anywhere near as much with his Presidency as he should have done.
I don't think that's a valid criticism of clinton

I got these statistics from my Gov/Econ book, which in turn got them from the national treasury or something along those lines. So laugh all you want...
no you didn't

[WhoDidTheElf]

no you didn't

yeah i did

[Reaganista]

oh well in that case you convinced me

[Reaganista]

ok then
but he still did do a lot of stuff
even if you think most of it was bad

[Det_Nosnip]

Well, I'll never be able to fully like the guy for failing to intervene in Rwanda, but I'm glad that he called Chris Wallace out on his bull****.

[shaqadelic]

I think Clinton was on the right track when it came to the Israel-Arab conflict. For that, I really gotta say he did a fine job.

[Steerpike]

I'm pretty sure that when the president makes it to where he has friends in all major agencies, it's pretty easy to cover your tracks. It's easy to say it's "nonsense" when you like Clinton and just refuse to believe he's a bad person--whatever, that's cool. His temper is infamous...you don't think it's the least bit suspicious that all these people show up dead, mysteriously, that wanted to expose him for what he was? His opposition? People that had completely relevant ties to his scandals and drug trafficking?

What you're listing is conjecture. Conjecture is not evidence. It is the stuff conspiracy theories are made out of. The sad thing is that people who think the moon landing was faked have presented more (flimsy and easily disproven) evidence than any of the paranoid armchair detectives who claim Clinton is a murderer.

The page you link to is gone. Yeah, we searched "pretty comprehensively" all right, but not all the sites. Even with the one stash we found, I find it interesting that you can still say they simply didn't exist. Saddam has used them on his own people. When attached to a warhead, sarin and mustard nerve agents have the potential to kill thousands--that's mass, I don't care what anyone says, and we found them.

Uh, dude? The stuff they found was mostly dated from the early 90's. Iran contra? First Gulf War? Ringing any bells? Chemical agents like that have a shelf life of only months. It's been useless goo for over a decade.

And the stuff found on insurgents had instructions printed in several languages, including Russian, means it's more than likely bought by a former Soviet nation doing some dealings under the table to support their flimsy economy.

Since I'm not really sure what you were linking to, I'll just say: I can make a poll that says Bush is the best president ever, but would you believe it? Probably not. I don't think anyone would.

There's a very distinct difference between a comprehensive investigation and an internet poll.

Anyway, I have no idea why everyone is saying that Clinton lost his temper. He was calling that smug SOB on his bullshit, and it's about time someone had the balls to go to Fox News and call them out.

And people wonder why I get my current events from the Daily Show...

[Reaganista]

Clinton is a murderer.
depends on how much control he had over janet reno