Should there be a US boycott of CITGO?

[run don't walk]

I think that there should be because of it's connections to the Venezualen government. Your opinions?

[666Ozzfan]

Link to something about it?

[run don't walk]

http://www.citgo.com/AboutCITGO.jsp (mentions its ties to Venezulea)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citgo

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petr%C3%B3leos_de_Venezuela_S.A.

That bottom link isn't working for some reason.

[BassRevelation]

yeah, lets eliminate a good percentage of our incoming oil so we can pay more ridiculous prices for gas.

Doesnt make sense

[run don't walk]

yeah, lets eliminate a good percentage of our incoming oil so we can pay more ridiculous prices for gas.

Doesnt make sense

Considering Hugo Chavez and his government is getting some of the money (which in turn they fund their military with) and Chavez's alliance with Iran I think it's totally worth it.

[BassRevelation]

Considering Hugo Chavez and his government is getting some of the money (which in turn they fund their military with) and Chavez's alliance with Iran I think it's totally worth it.

1.There is no real alliance yet between the two countries.
2.There's no way the venezuelan army would defeat ours with all the money from oil income. Iran, however, has a much stronger army, with or without venezuela.
3. Chavez is no real threat to the United States

[run don't walk]

1.There is no real alliance yet between the two countries.


There's been a TON of treaties signed by Chavez and that President Amhajinadad (sp?) of Iran. Plus Chavez has been to Iran meeting with the Iranian president.

[BassRevelation]

There's been a TON of treaties signed by Chavez and that President Amhajinadad (sp?) of Iran. Plus Chavez has been to Iran meeting with the Iranian president.

bush has met with Abbas. Doesnt mean a thing.

as of now, there is no real alliance in existence, although its been suggested that one is brewing. Also, a boycott would be counter-productive, seeing how it would hurt us a whole lot more. Pretty embarrasing when we crawl back to Chavez to ask him for oil.

[run don't walk]

bush has met with Abbas. Doesnt mean a thing.

as of now, there is no real alliance in existence, although its been suggested that one is brewing. Also, a boycott would be counter-productive, seeing how it would hurt us a whole lot more. Pretty embarrasing when we crawl back to Chavez to ask him for oil.

Except there is a treaty saying if someone attacks Iran Venazuala will go fight on the side of Iran or vice versa. Sounds like they're good friends to me.

[BassRevelation]

Except there is a treaty saying if someone attacks Iran Venazuala will go fight on the side of Iran or vice versa. Sounds like they're good friends to me.

Venezuela is the least of our worries when a human wave attack of 500,000 Iranians are coming right for us. Im just saying they're not a significant factor when it comes to military altercations.

[run don't walk]

Venezuela is the least of our worries when a human wave attack of 500,000 Iranians are coming right for us. Im just saying they're not a significant factor when it comes to military altercations.

I know Iran is our main enemy but I just thought considering Venezuala who is an ally of Iran has and owns a major oil company operating in the USofA we should maybe boycott it.

[BassRevelation]

dont you think a boycott would hurt us though? I mean, I can see why you would want us to boycott them, seeing how we view them as the enemy, but a boycott of oil would definitely hurt us. Im sure most people would rather pay for cheaper gas and let his comments go out the other ear.

I really do see why a boycott would make sense, but the boycott would be detrimental to our economy, not theirs.

[Lufnoops]

PDVSA dominates the oil industry of Venezuela, the world's fifth largest oil exporter.
Yeah that would hurt in the event of a boycott.

[666Ozzfan]

I seriously don't see the point, all it would do is increase the oil price for the US, and considering, you have it relatively cheap over there anyway. Last time I checked it was about $1.50NZ per L here. Not to sure, I don't have a car, but it's getting ridiculous

[spitfirejunky]

If the rest of the world had to treat the US the same way you'd like to treat Venezuela... there'd be no global economy.

The US has been doing business with criminal administrations for decades. Why stop now?

[John Paul Harrison]

Boycott of CITGO = short term solution.

If we cut off Venezualen oil, then why not cut off Iranian oil? Isn't Iran just as obnoxious?

[shaqadelic]

Ok lets put this into perspective. BP, the biggest gas retailer in the US, has about 15 000 shops. Citgo has about 11 620 retailers. By boycotting Citgo, you will cut off one of the top suppliera. And basic economic theory will tell you that when supplier decreases, price in the market will go up. In this case, massively.

So no cause it will devastate the US' economy and is pretty much the dumbest thing that can be done. Sheesh.

http://www.pmaa.org/public/partners/partners.html

[Auberge le Mouton Noir]

There's only one thing that makes americans boycott a company;

high prices.

[shaqadelic]

Not for gasoline apparently. I recall demand is increasing despite increase in market price.

[Auberge le Mouton Noir]

Not for gasoline apparently. I recall demand is increasing despite increase in market price.

If one supplier had higher prices than the other it would be boycotted.

I said company, not product.

[Lufnoops]

There's only one thing that makes americans boycott a company;

high prices.

You're right this is the cardinal rule here, it's all a game of incentives.

[shaqadelic]

If one supplier had higher prices than the other it would be boycotted.

I said company, not product.

How does this relate to the thread? Citgo is not selling at a higher price than other suppliers.

[John Paul Harrison]

There's only one thing that makes americans boycott a company;

high prices.

Montgomery Bus Boycott?

[Iskandar]

Montgomery Bus Boycott?
Unless the bus system was private, that would be boycotting a municipal service, not a company.:)

[Reaganista]

I think that there should be because of it's connections to the Venezualen government. Your opinions?
that would be a horrible idea
but considering how the DPW thing went down
I wouldn't be surprised if it happened after some people made an issue of it
but only if gas prices go down some more

[stevensonmat2]

I think we should leave anything to do with gas alone right now. Prices are going down, and Id like them to keep going down.

[Auberge le Mouton Noir]

How does this relate to the thread? Citgo is not selling at a higher price than other suppliers.

I WAS SAYING THAT AMERICANS DON'T TEND TO BOYCOTT COMPANIES

IS THAT OK?







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[EinzingerIsGod]

There's talk now of covering the big Citgo sign in Kenmore square in Boston, which you can see above the green monster in left field. Personally I think they should just forget about it and move on.

[stevensonmat2]

people are petty, that wil never change.

[italic zero]

There's talk now of covering the big Citgo sign in Kenmore square in Boston, which you can see above the green monster in left field. Personally I think they should just forget about it and move on.
oh hell no! that thing is an invaluble navigation tool

[EinzingerIsGod]

oh hell no! that thing is an invaluble navigation tool

Yes it is.

[Danish]

The US shouldn't boycott Citgo, the Venezuelan gov't should cut the US off (with the exception of selling subsidized heating oil to poor Americans).

And all of this about the relationship between Iran and Venezuela is ridiculous. The US is friends with Colombia, a country that has perhaps the worst human rights record in the world. They are also friends with Pakistan, a country ruled by a dictator that seriously threatens nuclear non-proliferation and, hence, global security.

This isn't to justify said relationships; it's to suggest that those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

[Billy_Silvers]

Here's why we should boycott citgo.

I'm sure you've noticed lately how gas prices have fallen? Well, this is really really hurting those at the top, the top .05% of wealth holders. Don't you understand they're trying to put their kids through an elite ivy league college? Pay off yachts to keep the economy afloat?

We can't leave them out in the cold. Imagine how much it would hurt them if those dirty people that make 1/1000000 of what they make (95% of us citizens) could actually spend their money on stupid things like health care, baby formula, or, the heart of the issue, affordable gasoline.

My God, it would be a shame to buck the trend of Exxon mobile posting the highest profits in the history of the world. It would be a blow to the very heart of capitalism itself! We mustn't let that happen!

And of course don't forget Chavez is training terrorists with the help of evil Iran. Don't you know they're also coming up with plans to stop the flow of sunlight into our homes and turn all children under the age of 3 into sausages.

Those evildoers!


[please don't attack my statistics, they're close but I'm feeling lazy]

[ATC]

Stupid knee-jerk idiots.

Boycotting Venezualan products is incredibly counter-productive, especially at a time when US companies have made major inroads into its market. Also, you might want to consider how far Venezuala is from Iran and the thousands of reasons its a bad idea for them to do anything to the US besides pointless bluster.

[Volumnius Flush]

I think we should. We are essentially giving money to the enemy. Kind of like what happened with Iraq, if Iraq had intended to use the money against us. It's blackmail really.

[Krabsworth]

HOw are they an enemy they are just talking trash who cares.

[ATC]

Yes, they would definitely really consider their largest trading partner (50.7%) to be the enemy. It makes sense,yes?

[Volumnius Flush]

It is Chavez who is the enemy. He is the enemy not because we antagonized him, but simply because he is an antagonist! He hates America and he is killing the middle class by capitalizing on his oil-rich economy.

[ATC]

Ahh, the old gimmick poster. Nonetheless, the points still apply to the retard TS.

[Volumnius Flush]

Ahh, the old gimmick poster.

I didn't see Fenwood post in here.