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Revrence
09-20-2006, 05:04 PM
For my English class we are required to do a project based on the book The Scarlet Letter by Nathaniel Hawthorne. She gave us a lsit of projects and one of them was to make a cd of 7 songs to illustrate different characters and also to present the overall mood of the book. I already have some ideas but right now. I would prefer to keep it in the metal genre (my picks so far have been Children of Bodom and also Tool) but anything in the harder rock category would be appreciated.

TojesDolan
09-20-2006, 05:06 PM
We could be of even more help if you describe the characters.

EDIT: Make ashosrt description, that way even if we haven't read the book we'll guide you.

Shattered_Future
09-20-2006, 05:09 PM
I HAAATE THIS BOOK!

We just finished reading this mofo, and have to read it again chapter by chapter now.

Anything evil will probably do. Try something by My Dying Bride.

Permanent Solution
09-20-2006, 05:09 PM
Hester Prynne A young woman sent to the colonies by her husband, who plans to join her later but is presumed lost at sea. She is a symbol of the acknowledged sinner; one whose transgression has been identified and who makes appropriate, socio-religious atonement.

Reverend Arthur Dimmesdale Dimmesdale is the unmarried pastor of Hester's congregation; he is also the father of Hester's daughter, Pearl. He is a symbol of the secret sinner; one who recognizes his transgression but keeps it hidden and secret, even to his own downfall.

Pearl Pearl is the illegitimate daughter of Hester Prynne and Arthur Dimmesdale. She is the living manifestation of Hester's sin and a symbol of the product of the act of adultery and of an act of passion and love.

Roger Chillingworth The pseudonym assumed by Hester Prynne's aged scholar-husband. He is a symbol of evil, of the “devil’s handyman,” of one consumed with revenge and devoid of compassion.

Governor Bellingham This actual historical figure, Richard Bellingham, was elected governor in 1641, 1654, and 1665. In The Scarlet Letter, he witnesses Hester's punishment and is a symbol of civil authority and, combined with John Wilson, of the Puritan Theocracy.

Mistress Hibbins Another historical figure, Ann Hibbins, sister of Governor Bellingham, was executed for witchcraft in 1656. In the novel, she has insight into the sins of both Hester and Dimmesdale and is a symbol of super or preternatural knowledge and evil powers.

John Wilson The historical figure on whom this character is based was an English-born minister who arrived in Boston in 1630. He is a symbol of religious authority and, combined with Governor Bellingham, of the Puritan Theocracy.

cliffnotes ftw

Revrence
09-20-2006, 05:11 PM
The best way to get to know the characters is to Wikipedia them. Hester Prynne, Arthur Dimmesdale, and Roger Chillingworth. It's kind of hard to get a feel for the characters from such a short synopsis though due to the characters constantly evolving with the storyline. Mainly I'm looking for songs regarding guilt, disregard of standards, and growing pride.

TojesDolan
09-20-2006, 05:13 PM
oh oh

Hester - Face of Melinda

Or any other piece on Opeth's "Still life".

Roger

Van Halen - Running with the devil... :confused:

Revrence
09-20-2006, 05:42 PM
Also songs about revenge...

Kage
09-20-2006, 07:37 PM
My friend had almost the exact project a year or two ago, but he only had to get one song. He used "The Grudge" by Tool and the teacher was blown away. Use it.

Deth
09-20-2006, 09:01 PM
oh oh

Hester - Face of Melinda

Or any other piece on Opeth's "Still life".

Roger

Van Halen - Running with the devil... :confused:

Still Life was my first thought as well.

Agalloch would be good because they enjoy the ol' Hawthorne, but I can't think of a specific song.

Shattered, your taste in literature is lacking. Hawthorne is good stuff.

Nepenthe
09-20-2006, 09:03 PM
Still Life was my first thought as well.

Agalloch would be good because they enjoy the ol' Hawthorne, but I can't think of a specific song.

Shattered, your taste in literature is lacking. Hawthorne is good stuff.

Maybe The Hawthorne Passage? :p

Txus
09-20-2006, 09:05 PM
^ I was going to post that :mad:

I really hate this book by the way.

Kage
09-20-2006, 09:06 PM
Hawthorne is alright, I thought the Scarlet Letter was good, but in general there's much better from both him and from that time period. I think he's credited too much. Like his story wherein the guy falls asleep and it's this big question--did he dream it all?! Well, yeah, there were people who did that long before Hawthorne.

Deth
09-20-2006, 09:08 PM
Hawthorne certainly isn't my favorite writer, but there's a depth and power to The Scarlet Letter that I really enjoyed. Plus, he really loaded up on the social criticisms which are always fun when done correctly.

Lunch
09-20-2006, 09:09 PM
The ratio of the depth and power in the Scarlet Letter compared to the amount of times I wanted to kill myself while reading it was way too small though.

Txus
09-20-2006, 09:09 PM
I read also read The House of the Seven Gables about 2 months ago, it sucked aswell.

Kage
09-20-2006, 09:11 PM
Hawthorne certainly isn't my favorite writer, but there's a depth and power to The Scarlet Letter that I really enjoyed. Plus, he really loaded up on the social criticisms which are always fun when done correctly.
I disagree that his social criticisms were done correctly. My favorite authors when it comes to that are Kurt Vonnegut (obviously, he's the master) and John Updike. Both are seamless in their storytelling/social commentary.

MetalOz
09-20-2006, 09:14 PM
Jag Panzer actually has a track called The Scarlet Letter obviously based on a character from the book...

The Scarlet letter
by Jag Panzer
album: Mechanized War (2001)
She walks in moonlit shadows to make men beg
Her slender figure slithers and you will pay

A tender morsel for rich men, a prize to the poor
The way she looks is so lethal, drops you to the floor
It's said that our dear Scarlet shall never be a puppet
She is regal as the queen, she is royally obscene

She bears the scarlet letter

Her scent is quite delicious, her form so exquisite
Speaks so softly in your ear of the dirty things you fear

She prowls the starlit avenue for her next prey
Her purr will lure you in and lock you away

She wears a gown of satin, underneath is bare
In privacy she will teach you all you ever dare
Men sell their lives to taste her, to have and never waste her
Skilled in etiquette, she'll be the trophy of the ball
Yet in secret chain you to the wall

Her skin as soft as feathers, her demeanor tough as leather
Pay the price to sample her wares, she will drain away all cares

Deth
09-20-2006, 09:15 PM
EDIT: To Kage

Really? I thought that he handled the whole Puritan situation expertly.

I really haven't gotten too far into that period myself though and I currently have a literary hard-on for Dickens.

Kage
09-20-2006, 09:16 PM
Dickens I don't mind, but I'm generally not into the mainstream literature that is taught in school. If you were to ask me about literature, I'd start talking about the beat writers and contemporaries such as the two authors I mentioned above.

Nepenthe
09-20-2006, 09:17 PM
hard-on for Dickens.

Teeheehee.

Kage, sometimes I think people (myself included) get caught up too much into non mainstream stuff, that they fail to see the greatness of the mainstream stuff. Huxley, for example, is one of my favorite authors, but not until just recently when I overcame my 'mainstream phobia'.

Dr. Jake Destructo
09-20-2006, 10:53 PM
Yeah, you must use The Grudge, I mean, it openly references a 'scarlet letterman.'

Kage
09-20-2006, 10:55 PM
Teeheehee.

Kage, sometimes I think people (myself included) get caught up too much into non mainstream stuff, that they fail to see the greatness of the mainstream stuff. Huxley, for example, is one of my favorite authors, but not until just recently when I overcame my 'mainstream phobia'.

:lol: I agree to a degree. I've been coming out of it. I was in a huge mainstream phobia for a little while, but I'm more balanced now. Still, that doesn't take away from the fact that I generally like non-mainstream things more.

Nepenthe
09-20-2006, 10:57 PM
Oh yeah, of course. I'm still much more a fan of non mainstream stuff, but I've lately come out of my shell. I mean, for God's sake, I hadn't listened to either Agalloch or Ulver in months until a few weeks ago because I was always in search of some virtually unknown band. The past two weeks, though, I've been on an Ulver/Agalloch binge, and I've finally come to realize they are my two favorite bands of all time.

HNLzero
09-21-2006, 12:54 AM
Ugh, I happen to be doing an essay right now on Hawthorne's short stories.

Dr. Jake Destructo
09-21-2006, 01:10 AM
Oh yeah, of course. I'm still much more a fan of non mainstream stuff, but I've lately come out of my shell. I mean, for God's sake, I hadn't listened to either Agalloch or Ulver in months until a few weeks ago because I was always in search of some virtually unknown band. The past two weeks, though, I've been on an Ulver/Agalloch binge, and I've finally come to realize they are my two favorite bands of all time.

Ulver and Agalloch were subject to your mainstream phobia?

Jesus.

Luc214
09-21-2006, 01:35 AM
If you're going to use metal, you should probably provide a lyrics sheet.

Nepenthe
09-21-2006, 01:56 AM
Ulver and Agalloch were subject to your mainstream phobia?

Jesus.

Yeah, I'm an elitist bastard :p

philly96
09-21-2006, 05:49 AM
I'm currently reading Empire of the sun by JG Ballard. He is also apparently a really good person for society. Umm, on the topic in question, I have no idea at the mo.

TojesDolan
09-21-2006, 11:44 AM
If the band doesn't use custom-made instruments with wood cut from the grim, somber forests of Norway, painted with sacrifice blood taken from human virgins and unborn elks, and tuners forged from battle axes of ancient vikings, and doesn't record in old manors with haunted buttlers, and a possessed music producer, recording in the porch under pouring rain, a water pump gigantic motor running, and pregnant women being tortured in the background by jackals and eaten by norwegian wolves, then I'm not interested.

VomitStainedCretin
09-21-2006, 02:32 PM
If the band doesn't use custom-made instruments with wood cut from the grim, somber forests of Norway, painted with sacrifice blood taken from human virgins and unborn elks, and tuners forged from battle axes of ancient vikings, and doesn't record in old manors with haunted buttlers, and a possessed music producer, recording in the porch under pouring rain, a water pump gigantic motor running, and pregnant women being tortured in the background by jackals and eaten by norwegian wolves, then I'm not interested.

Yup, any band who doesnt do any of the above can never truly be any good. Its blatently obvious. :thumb:

Kage
09-21-2006, 03:37 PM
Yeah, I'm an elitist bastard :p
I never went that far at all.

Amit
09-21-2006, 03:43 PM
yeah man use some rock or metal songs your teacher will be really blown away by your pioneering originality because no one has ever done that before

Deth
09-21-2006, 03:45 PM
You have an amazing ability to be a complete jackass.

Lunch
09-21-2006, 03:48 PM
Oh noes, bold and underline in the same post. PWNT

Amit
09-21-2006, 03:53 PM
You have an amazing ability to be a complete jackass.

what's wrong

can't make a decent rebuttal

?

anyway this thread needs some ennio morricone

Shattered_Future
09-21-2006, 04:04 PM
Still Life was my first thought as well.

Agalloch would be good because they enjoy the ol' Hawthorne, but I can't think of a specific song.

Shattered, your taste in literature is lacking. Hawthorne is good stuff.

If this is good stuff, I hate to see what you deem bad.

TojesDolan
09-21-2006, 04:05 PM
what's wrong

can't make a decent rebuttal

?

anyway this thread needs some ennio morricone
Yeah Amit, show him the indian flame.

Egggo
09-21-2006, 04:05 PM
ok here this will get you an A++++ and it only took me five minutes

Hester Prynne A young woman sent to the colonies by her husband, who plans to join her later but is presumed lost at sea. She is a symbol of the acknowledged sinner; one whose transgression has been identified and who makes appropriate, socio-religious atonement.

samuel barber - agnus dei (also known as adagio for strings)

Reverend Arthur Dimmesdale Dimmesdale is the unmarried pastor of Hester's congregation; he is also the father of Hester's daughter, Pearl. He is a symbol of the secret sinner; one who recognizes his transgression but keeps it hidden and secret, even to his own downfall.

dj shadow - you can't go home again

Pearl Pearl is the illegitimate daughter of Hester Prynne and Arthur Dimmesdale. She is the living manifestation of Hester's sin and a symbol of the product of the act of adultery and of an act of passion and love.

ennio morricone - the ecstasy of gold

Roger Chillingworth The pseudonym assumed by Hester Prynne's aged scholar-husband. He is a symbol of evil, of the “devil’s handyman,” of one consumed with revenge and devoid of compassion.

hans zimmer - hold the ice

Governor Bellingham This actual historical figure, Richard Bellingham, was elected governor in 1641, 1654, and 1665. In The Scarlet Letter, he witnesses Hester's punishment and is a symbol of civil authority and, combined with John Wilson, of the Puritan Theocracy.

king crimson - frame by frame

Mistress Hibbins Another historical figure, Ann Hibbins, sister of Governor Bellingham, was executed for witchcraft in 1656. In the novel, she has insight into the sins of both Hester and Dimmesdale and is a symbol of super or preternatural knowledge and evil powers.

philip glass - koyaanisqatsi

John Wilson The historical figure on whom this character is based was an English-born minister who arrived in Boston in 1630. He is a symbol of religious authority and, combined with Governor Bellingham, of the Puritan Theocracy.

nusrat fateh ali khan - mustt mustt

ok you're welcome threadstarter

TojesDolan
09-21-2006, 04:11 PM
These recommendations need more bansuri, tbqh

Egggo
09-21-2006, 04:12 PM
yeah that's true imho

umm

remember shakti with hariprasad chaurasia - lotus feet

for pearl or hester

Deth
09-21-2006, 04:59 PM
what's wrong

can't make a decent rebuttal

?

anyway this thread needs some ennio morricone
I figured it would be more effective to just let you know that your an arrogant douchebag in every post I see from you.

I mean, sure, I could have a rebuttal, but that would mean a full scale rebuttal throwdown. It's easier to just let my thoughts go with the minimum effort and watch you scramble for a comeback.

Nepenthe
09-21-2006, 05:27 PM
I figured it would be more effective to just let you know that your an arrogant douchebag in every post I see from you.

I mean, sure, I could have a rebuttal, but that would mean a full scale rebuttal throwdown. It's easier to just let my thoughts go with the minimum effort and watch you scramble for a comeback.

I'd have to agree with you on that first sentence.

And, hey, odd that the Rock And Metal Forums would give out Rock and Metal suggestions...

Egggo
09-21-2006, 09:17 PM
I figured it would be more effective to just let you know that your an arrogant douchebag in every post I see from you.

or you just can't hehe

I mean, sure, I could have a rebuttal, but that would mean a full scale rebuttal throwdown. It's easier to just let my thoughts go with the minimum effort and watch you scramble for a comeback.

haha or you just don't have any substance to any of your one liners

i don't think i'm scrambling or anything but seems like you're the one who is going out of his way to antagonize a stranger on the internet

lightningmetal666
09-22-2006, 02:33 PM
Maybe during the part where she is being given the "A" you could do Cannibal Corpse's "She Was Asking For It" or you could do Opeth's "The Drapery Falls" for right after she was exiled to the woods. That song has kind of a depressing feel.

Egggo
09-22-2006, 03:26 PM
really you could just use opeth's damnation for the entire thing

lightningmetal666
09-22-2006, 03:38 PM
really you could just use opeth's damnation for the entire thing

LOL. Yeah, that would actually work.:thumb: