18" Kicks

[White Riot!]

I love 18" Kicks!

I love the dynamic range of an 18" kick especially when recorded you can hear how great and expressive they really are. The thing I love is how round the bass frequencies are , and how well defined you can get them. Hitting my 18" hard is like punching envelopes of bass into the music , yet when I roll off some power into the kick , it comes back into an open tone again.

18" kicks are highly underated , the only real sound im missing out on is a big *** dull thud , and im not really keen on that sound.

[Aaron]

18" Kick + Round Edges + Coated Single Ply Heads = Goodness.

[We_Love_Lime]

I've never seen your set Riot, care to post some?

18 basses are nice.
I think 18x14 is awesome, but it just looks funny.

[ludvista29]

18x15 FTW!

[Aaron]

18x14 is a great size for an aux bass in a setup.

24x17 B
18x14 B
8x10 T
9x12 T
14x14 T
14x16 T
5x14 S
3x13 S

MMmmmmm.

Kirk Covington has one thats like that.

[White Riot!]

I would post you pics of my jarrah kit , but only the kick has been made to date. I want to whore them as a complete set. Dont want to ruin the surprise!

This is whats going on the Quilted Pomelle Sapele Veneered Jarrah kit.

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[White Riot!]

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[We_Love_Lime]

Nice man,

What was the company?
And what are you currently rocking?

[White Riot!]

Kit Specs as Follows

Jarrah Shells

18 x 16" Bass Drum
14 x 5.5 Hammered Brass Gretsch Snare (snare drums will be switched as appropriate , only one on kit at a time)
14 x 5.5 Indian Rosewood Snare (matching to jarrahs)
10 x 8" Tom
14 x 12" Tom

21" HHX Groove Ride
18" Amun Medium Crash
16" Byzance Medium Crash
17" Bosphorus Prototype crash
18" Bosphorus Prototype crash/ride
10" Amun splash
10" (Extremely Trashy) Proto Bosphorus splash
13" HHX Stage Hats
Generic Cowbell.

Kit is going to be metro custom when I get some cash flow going again. hand made in brisbane , australia.

6ply 5.5mm jarrah shells , gretsch style rounded edges , 5 point lug design on 10" tom


Also my kit's veneer beauty is going to blow Damo's veneered bubinga kit beauty out of the water.

[We_Love_Lime]

Nice, but you only have your Jarrah Bass right?

What do you think of that Gretsch Brass?

[White Riot!]

Atthe moment funny enough I am rocking this cheapass 22" rydeen bass drum and my lovely gretsch snare.

The Gretsch snare is very nice. Its fat sounding , lively and responds to tuning in any range very well. I got the shop store dude to quickly tune it up when i bought a new ambassador to replace stock. Even from his vague tuning people in the store came up to me and commented that they loved the sound.

[We_Love_Lime]

Ahh, that's what I was wondering.

Nice, so is it like a two peice going on?

[The syllek attacks]

[QUOTE=White Riot!;13285820]I would post you pics of my jarrah kit , but only the kick has been made to date. I want to whore them as a complete set. Dont want to ruin the surprise!

This is whats going on the Quilted Pomelle Sapele Veneered Jarrah kit.

Rock the F*** out, my customs are Pomelle Sapele, Absolutely beautiful wood, but as to the thread, I can't stand 18" basses live, I littleraly can't hear an 18" bass over a medium volume band standing pressed against the stage, they work for recording but they just don't have the volume.

[Aaron]

With a mic on them, they're 10x better live though. FOH guy will love you for bringing an 18 with a ported reso.

[White Riot!]

At the moment yes it is, i had been without a kit for some time and I saw an add in the paper for selling a 22" rydeen bass drum cheap. Its at jamroom atm and I carry my snare and cymbals to and from there.

The gretsch snare looks much nicer and richer in real life. Its probably my favourite snare right now , fat and sensitive.

[TTTSNB]

18"s are pretty cool, but definitely a specific kind of sound, not for everything. I've personally found that they sound best tuned rather high.

[ofDooM]

id get an 14x18 (subwoofer) and an 18x22.

those, would be killer.

[Sammy_L_D]

I love the punch of 18 inch kicks.

They kill people.

[White Riot!]

[QUOTE=White Riot!;13285820]I would post you pics of my jarrah kit , but only the kick has been made to date. I want to whore them as a complete set. Dont want to ruin the surprise!

This is whats going on the Quilted Pomelle Sapele Veneered Jarrah kit.

Rock the F*** out, my customs are Pomelle Sapele, Absolutely beautiful wood, but as to the thread, I can't stand 18" basses live, I littleraly can't hear an 18" bass over a medium volume band standing pressed against the stage, they work for recording but they just don't have the volume.



The thing is that the quilting comes out in different ways from wood to wood.

it can vary from this.....

http://www.sarasotarockers.com/woodgallery/images/QuiltedPomeleSapele.jpg

to this.......

http://www.beneteauguitars.com/guitr_pics/concrt2/con_sap_back.jpg

imagine something inbeetween the two! thats what it looks like!

[White Riot!]

18"s are pretty cool, but definitely a specific kind of sound, not for everything


With mic'ing on stage , or recording you can actually bypass the volume issue and get most sounds you'd want out of them

[FockerTheLopper]

Yeah the only problem with them is that you can't get enough volume to play really loud music without hitting too hard.

[White Riot!]

Thats only if your tuned low , in which case you'd need to mic up to compete with bigger bass drums , but even then you'd never match them for that sound.

An 18" kick tuned up is fat and loud. I guarantee it!

[FockerTheLopper]

Thats only if your tuned low , in which case you'd need to mic up to compete with bigger bass drums , but even then you'd never match them for that sound.

An 18" kick tuned up is fat and loud. I guarantee it!

Yeah my teacher has a low tuned for latin drumming so he can muffle it himself(holding the beater in) but when its tuned up you ussually don't get that low boom and even if you do its still not as loud

[Det_Nosnip]

Yeah the only problem with them is that you can't get enough volume to play really loud music without hitting too hard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCE-ayIu_ok

No mics.

[Josiah]

Yeah my teacher has a low tuned for latin drumming so he can muffle it himself(holding the beater in) but when its tuned up you ussually don't get that low boom and even if you do its still not as loud


Ahhh!

He's muffling it and leaving it open with his foot.... now that is a sign of some one who knows latin playing.

[some jive turkey]

^
like the Surdo




Jarrah,....that's Australian for "mahogany" right? (joking)

[Zildjian]

I got a 18"x16" floor tom... Its pretty sexy

But i like a big bass like a 22" or 24"

[We_Love_Lime]

I've been pretty much convinced to get an 18.

[TormentorScott]

I love the sound of the 18 that I tried. But I've been told by a few people that they don't have enough low end or volume for Metal or Rock. Being that I'm in a thrash/punk band now as well as a prog/stoner metal project I wouldn't want that. But I dunno... 10 inch toms can be more defined than 16 inch ones if you know what I mean.

[ilikenoise]

18" is a floor tom size not a bass drum.

bigger is bester. 24 14 18 love.

[Dave*Grohl]

hey, hows that gretsch snare? Any audio?

[Hyde]

I like the sound of 18s tuned fairly loose with some power behind the beater to give it a good smack. But then again... I like hearing them tuned kinda high as well.

[the_pure_drummer]

Your sound like it gonna be killer get some pics up A.S.A. you get them!

[MeaninglessPhoto]

18" is a floor tom size not a bass drum.

bigger is bester. 24 14 18 love.


Damn right.

[Aaron]

18" is a floor tom size not a bass drum.

bigger is bester. 24 14 18 love.
Silly thing to say. You've never played one have you?

[ludvista29]

I'll say it again, 18x15 FTW!

[We_Love_Lime]

No one listens to Elementry Schoolers Michael.

[ludvista29]

No one listens to Elementry Schoolers Michael.
I'm a middle schooler...?

[White Riot!]

I'm a middle schooler...?

your on your path to understanding , son :thumb:


Different drums for different sounds. There is no better and there is no worse.

[We_Love_Lime]

I'm a middle schooler...?

Liar.

[White Riot!]

I have a snare mic rearing to go , I just have no means of getting that into a computer to be recorded , If there was someone in brisbane I could rock up to their place I would plug it in and do some soundclips for ya's

Its a good snare , the hammering fattens the sound IMO

[Josiah]

your on your path to understanding , son :thumb:


Different drums for different sounds. There is no better and there is no worse.



Ahahaha overheard -


Producer - "I just really want a particular drum sound for this song, hmmm.."
Engineer - "Lets ask the drummer what he thinks"
Producer - "I want a dull, thud with little tone.. something like a box but just a touch more, what do you recommend?"
Drummer - "Sounds like you need a CB kit."
Producer - "Alright then! I want a CB kit sound!"

[White Riot!]

http://www.indoorstorm.com/product_media.php?products_id=529&media_id=17922

Drag your mouse over the drum to hear.

thats a soundclip from indoor storm....

[ludvista29]

Liar.
lol rami, 7th grade is in a middle school, k?

[White Riot!]

Ahahaha overheard -


Producer - "I just really want a particular drum sound for this song, hmmm.."
Engineer - "Lets ask the drummer what he thinks"
Producer - "I want a dull, thud with little tone.. something like a box but just a touch more, what do you recommend?"
Drummer - "Sounds like you need a CB kit."
Producer - "Alright then! I want a CB kit sound!"

Cheap drums are great for that empty cardboard box sound :thumb:

[We_Love_Lime]

lol rami, 7th grade is in a middle school, k?

I know I'm just palying with you.

[Hyde]

http://www.indoorstorm.com/product_media.php?products_id=529&media_id=17922

Drag your mouse over the drum to hear.

thats a soundclip from indoor storm....

I like how if you click it you hear a roll.

[TormentorScott]

And if you click it fast and repeatedly it gets louder!

[Det_Nosnip]

Ahahaha overheard -


Producer - "I just really want a particular drum sound for this song, hmmm.."
Engineer - "Lets ask the drummer what he thinks"
Producer - "I want a dull, thud with little tone.. something like a box but just a touch more, what do you recommend?"
Drummer - "Sounds like you need a CB kit."
Producer - "Alright then! I want a CB kit sound!"

Sad thing is that, other than the last two lines, that seems to be a really common conversation! :(