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MetalOz
09-13-2006, 11:06 PM
This month's theme is:

MULTI-GENRE :naughty:

It has to crossover a whole genre, it can't be just different kinds of metal.
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GENERAL RULES FOR SUBMITTING YOUR SONG:
1. You can only enter ONE song.

2a. You are allowed ONE edit. As soon as you submit your song, you are given this edit. If for any reason you feel the need to fix or change anything in your song, then you may use your ONE edit.

2b. If you elect to use your one edit, you WILL NOT receive any more edits, and you MAY NOT tamper with or edit your song in any way, shape, or form.

2c. A SAMPLE OF YOUR SUBMISSION DOES NOT COUNT AS AN EDIT. IF YOU UPLOAD A SAMPLE FOR US, WE WILL GIVE YOU AN OPINION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT YOU ARE HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

None of this bullshit where you submit multiple attempts but write "THIS IS NOT MY FINAL ENTRY." This encourages you to use your ONE edit when you actually need it. Submitting multiple samples that aren't samples (i.e. sending your song piece-by-piece) will result in an immediate disqualification, because it's just not fair to the other entrants.

3. Your song must fit the theme of this month.

4a. Host your submission on http://www.soundclick.com/, upload it into this thread via YSI, or email it to me and I will add it to the competition's Soundclick.

4b. If you would like your entry to be anonymous (So other users don't know whose song is whose) obviously, you will need to email me with a link rather than posting it in the thread.

5. I MUST have your song in MP3 format. Don't send me .wma, or .m4a, or any of those other BS extensions. As easy as they are to convert, don't make me do it for you, please. Thanks!

6a. MIDI SUBMISSIONS WILL BE IGNORED.

6b. Exception to Rule 6a: if you're using MIDI drums and/or keyboards, this is allowed; however, ALL GUITARWORK MUST BE AUTHENTIC.

7. If you are in need a recording program, do not ask us. Instead, download this free one: http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

8. Here is a basic tutorial for using Fruity Loops and DKFH, Thank you comptonassrobert: http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10716797&postcount=217

GENERAL RULES FOR THIS MONTH'S COMPETITION

1. You are absolutely (hell, it's encouraged :)) allowed to have other MXers and/or musicians in your area to help you with your song; however, you (the member on MX) need to have a hand in the production.

2. Time length is not a staple for this month. It's all up to you. But keep in mind that a 30 second song is probably not going to win and a ten minute epic is going to be harder to vote on. Most rock and metal songs are three to five minutes in length.

3. Quality is not a must; however, naturally, superior quality may give some members an edge in the final voting, but do not be discouraged from entering if you feel you have mediocre or worse equipment. Voters who trash your recordings because of quality will be disqualified from voting.

4. Vocals are NOT A REQUIREMENT; however, if you're paranoid about singing or can't find a singer, then do an instrumental track.

5. Jom is my associate for these competitions. He will help me in judging if songs meet the required genre.

6. If you are having trouble recording or anything like that, please feel free to ask in this thread, plenty of members (especially Berner and moaner in The Jam Session forum) will be willing to help you to make your song. Just tell them why you need help, and these guys will be more than happy to assist you. Rounder is also extremely knowledgable and posts here often.

7. Any questions, feel free to post here or e-mail me.

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GENERAL RULES FOR THIS THREAD

1. The winner decides the theme for the next competition thread, except that I will make the thread.

2. Voting takes place in a separate thread, which is usually 2-3 days after the competition is over. PLEASE BE PATIENT. THANK YOU.

3. Winner selects the genre or theme. He/She is to NOT reveal it in the thread if he/she wins.

4. Don't spam this thread. Ask questions, give feedback, and so on, but don't spam this thread.

Besides the accepted definition of spam in R&M, the following case will also be treated as spam:

Don't **** in the thread about how you wished the theme was something else or that someone else should have won. Either you enter the competition and win it and change the theme and vote in the voting threads or shut the hell up.

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DEADLINE

THE DEADLINE FOR THIS COMPETITION WILL BE MONDAY, OCTOBER 9TH, 11:59:59PM EDT (-5 GMT).

*This is open for flexibility - if it needs to get pushed back or forward, just let me know. Don't expect long periods, though.

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PARTING THOUGHTS:

1. READ THE RULES AND GUIDELINES ONE MORE TIME.

2. Good luck to all the participants.

3. HAVE FUN.

4. If you have questions, DO NOT HESITATE TO ASK IN THIS THREAD. We will not bite your head off unless you blatantly break the rules.

5. Make sure your song pertains to this month's selected theme.

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PS: If you have any specific questions for me personally, please send them to my email address:

metaloz(at)yahoo.com

Kage
09-13-2006, 11:07 PM
What a copout--:p

Actually, this is awesome. I'll be in this one for sure.

Darkness
09-13-2006, 11:10 PM
So for example, it has to blend like, rock/metal/blues/classical or something?

Kage
09-13-2006, 11:11 PM
It seems to be that two or more genres should be mixed, but that does not include subgenres. So, yeah.

Dr. Jake Destructo
09-13-2006, 11:12 PM
Man, the last 3 comps have been so damn vague. It's hard for me to find a starting point. Moses, you're gay. >:-[

PS: I love you though.

Nepenthe
09-13-2006, 11:12 PM
And this is definately where I'll make my first entry. For sure expect a genre hoppin song from me this month.

Dr. Jake Destructo
09-13-2006, 11:15 PM
Well. Anything less would be unacceptable. :p

i am the robots
09-13-2006, 11:15 PM
Would metalcore work?

I mean, like Converge or something, we (my band and I) have been meaning to write a mix grind/death/hardcore/other song lately.

Kage
09-13-2006, 11:18 PM
Man, the last 3 comps have been so damn vague. It's hard for me to find a starting point. Moses, you're gay. >:-[

PS: I love you though.
Vagueness scares a lot of people, but it opens up possibilites for your own interpretations. Go with it where you will. You'll be surprised where you end up.

i am the robots
09-13-2006, 11:20 PM
I think Erik and I should've won the Swords and Sorcery contest... Kyle brought us down with his drunken singing.

Darkness
09-13-2006, 11:25 PM
Would metalcore work?

I mean, like Converge or something, we (my band and I) have been meaning to write a mix grind/death/hardcore/other song lately.
It can't be all sub genres of metal though, those genres would be to similar. Throw in some jazz or something. Or maybe country. ;)

i am the robots
09-13-2006, 11:28 PM
Hardcore, grind, and metal are all different genres...

I mean, like, hardcore punk.

Darkness
09-13-2006, 11:30 PM
I'm aware they're all different genres, and that might be acceptable. But they do have similar sounds (loud, agressive, etc.). I was just suggesting throw something else unexpected in there to spice it up.

Nepenthe
09-13-2006, 11:31 PM
Eh, I guess technically that would work, but those genres are so closely related, I could see how some wouldn't think it should be allowed. Just put a little country interlude in there, for the sake of the competition :lol:

Darkness
09-13-2006, 11:33 PM
Eh, I guess technically that would work, but those genres are so closely related, I could see how some wouldn't think it should be allowed. Just put a little country interlude in there, for the sake of the competition :lol:
This guy understands what I'm saying. :chug:

i am the robots
09-13-2006, 11:34 PM
I'm aware they're all different genres, and that might be acceptable. But they do have similar sounds (loud, agressive, etc.). I was just suggesting throw something else unexpected in there to spice it up.

We normally do :).

Jelle Strikes Back
09-14-2006, 12:22 AM
This should be interesting.

Anyone called dibbs on Death Polka yet?

Nepenthe
09-14-2006, 12:23 AM
Well. Anything less would be unacceptable. :p

Just saw this.

:lol:

Kage
09-14-2006, 12:24 AM
I hope we don't end up just getting a bunch of goofy genre combinations.

pate
09-14-2006, 12:25 AM
This theme is awesome Moses :)

Nepenthe
09-14-2006, 12:26 AM
Hey, I'll bet the first person who thought to mix classical with metal sounded crazy.

@ Kage

Jelle Strikes Back
09-14-2006, 12:29 AM
This theme is awesome Moses :)
I agree.

FleshTorcher is going back to their roots, it seems. Some sort of Death Polka jam

Kage
09-14-2006, 12:31 AM
Hey, I'll bet the first person who thought to mix classical with metal sounded crazy.

@ Kage
Haha, I guess you're right. But essentially I mean people will just toss these combinations together haphahazardly, not really relating the two together or trying to really make a nice blend.

Jelle Strikes Back
09-14-2006, 12:32 AM
Haha, I guess you're right. But essentially I mean people will just toss these combinations together haphahazardly, not really relating the two together or trying to really make a nice blend.
You mean like your last song? :p

Nepenthe
09-14-2006, 12:32 AM
Haha, I guess you're right. But essentially I mean people will just toss these combinations together haphahazardly, not really relating the two together or trying to really make a nice blend.

Yeah, I knew what you were saying. Believe me, as a former diehard Folk/Viking Metal lover, I know all about just tacking a cookiecutter melody from a different genre over metal and calling it innovative.

Kage
09-14-2006, 12:33 AM
Yeah, I knew what you were saying. Believe me, as a former diehard Folk/Viking Metal lover, I know all about just tacking a cookiecutter melody from a different genre over metal and calling it innovative.
:lol: You aren't a fanatic anymore?

Dr. Jake Destructo
09-14-2006, 12:34 AM
I'm thinking a Porcupine Tree/Radiohead-esque fusion of prog and trip hop would suffice. :cool:

Too bad FL3 sucks arse. :-/

Does anyone have like..A newer, less stone-age version of FL?

Kage
09-14-2006, 12:37 AM
I'm thinking a Porcupine Tree/Radiohead-esque fusion of prog and trip hop would suffice. :cool:
Very nice.

I'm going to do something with jazz. Jazz drone noise perhaps.

Nepenthe
09-14-2006, 12:38 AM
:lol: You aren't a fanatic anymore?

A fan, yes, a fanatic, no. That post pretty much explained my reason for getting out of the genre. I pretty much just got to the bottom of it and realized there was nothing good left, haha.

I'm thinking I'm just going to start with some bell tolls and a droning noise build up and see what comes from there.

Kage
09-14-2006, 12:38 AM
A fan, yes, a fanatic, no. That post pretty much explained my reason for getting out of the genre. I pretty much just got to the bottom of it and realized there was nothing good left, haha.
I know what you mean, bro.

Nepenthe
09-14-2006, 12:40 AM
I had fun with it though. I'm never going to obsess over discovering everything about a genre like that again, though.

Check my edit.

Kage
09-14-2006, 12:42 AM
Excellent, excellent way to start. Some of my best material comes from when I put down just a fragmentary sound in my head and I just keep building on it.

Nepenthe
09-14-2006, 12:44 AM
Same with me. Usually I'll start with either a cool intro idea, a melody, or just an interesting 'gimmick' for a song, and the rest kind of forms around it.

Magicaltroll
09-14-2006, 12:48 AM
Fuc yeah!


I'm not sure what I'll do, but it'll have doom in it, I'm sure. Since I've been listening to that a ton lately. I'm gonna try to get away from the Grindcore/Metalcore shi' I usually do, I'm getting bored with that :p

Maybe a Post-Rock/Doom song, or is that kinda too same-ish?
And expect samples from my song :D

Perhaps Locusts
09-14-2006, 01:04 AM
Same with me. Usually I'll start with either a cool intro idea, a melody, or just an interesting 'gimmick' for a song, and the rest kind of forms around it.
All hail this master of a composer!

MetalOz
09-15-2006, 06:38 AM
This is not the song I am going to submit but is this multi-genre enough? It's basically all thrash except the solo section. Most importantly it was written and recorded all in one drunken evening (except teh drums, which I programmed the next day) and it was helluva fun to play and sing (sorta)
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=601418

MRDuCran
09-15-2006, 11:59 AM
This is not the song I am going to submit but is this multi-genre enough? It's basically all thrash except the solo section. Most importantly it was written and recorded all in one drunken evening (except teh drums, which I programmed the next day) and it was helluva fun to play and sing (sorta)
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=601418

:lol:

I might enter this if I'm convinced any of my songs fall into 2 genres.

adamstartin
09-15-2006, 12:09 PM
This pretty vague tbh. Could i enter a jazz song with a 12 bar blues progression and call it jazz-blues? Or could i enter an SRV style song and call it blues rock?

Shattered_Future
09-15-2006, 03:15 PM
Multi genre, eh? Hmm...

I might have something for this. It's still pretty metal based, but it's not all distorted.

Moses
09-15-2006, 04:24 PM
Well I thought this one would give you alot of artistic and creative flexiblity musically while still having some kind of aim for your composition.

Oh and Eleventeen, try to include somthing way out there instead of just inside metal. I mean it won't be excluded because the genres you mixed are too close but it probably would help your score to include a good use of the theme, and may hurt it if you don't use it well or at all.

Man, the last 3 comps have been so damn vague. It's hard for me to find a starting point. Moses, you're gay. >:-[

PS: I love you though.

lubutoo

I think i'm doing some classical/techno/indie but idk.

Stormrider
09-15-2006, 04:34 PM
A fan, yes, a fanatic, no. That post pretty much explained my reason for getting out of the genre. I pretty much just got to the bottom of it and realized there was nothing good left, haha.

When you say you're no fanatic anymore, you mean like you don't check out bands from it to no end anymore, right ? You still love the stuff you loved from it before, right ?

/insecure :p haha

lightningmetal666
09-15-2006, 06:01 PM
I'm curious, would progressive metal work? It's like a fusion of genres.


BTW, metaloz's song is the sh*t!!!! LOL.

Magicaltroll
09-15-2006, 08:38 PM
I made the first minute or two of my song, rough draft.

It's frickin' sweet.



It's a song that my bandmates didn't like for the new Doom Band I'm in, but they're crazy, so I used it for the competition. I might add some death metal stuff in to make it "Crossover".



I'll upload a sample of it tomorrow when I have more done.

Darkness
09-15-2006, 09:48 PM
I hope we don't end up just getting a bunch of goofy genre combinations.
I kinda hope we do.

I want this to be entertaining. :smoke:

Kage
09-17-2006, 02:25 AM
I suppose so, but it would also be nice to see some quality songwriting.

adamstartin
09-17-2006, 07:44 AM
I kinda hope we do.

I want this to be entertaining. :smoke: hehe im already working on a klezmer/metal song; klezmer is Jewish folk music haha. But im having a hard time getting it to fit so it may become bossa nova or latin.

Nick
09-17-2006, 11:55 AM
heh I'll give this a shot this month

does it have to mix genres into one sound or switch between them? I'm slightly confused by that

also metaloz frank zappa owns that song name

adamstartin
09-18-2006, 01:51 PM
Damn, i dont think i can enter this one. Y'now when you find out you are actually a really crap guitarist who can only play metal riffs? I kinda just found that out . . . .

Kage
09-18-2006, 03:14 PM
I've got a good piece going for this.

Prepare yourselves.

Magicaltroll
09-18-2006, 04:05 PM
I've got a good piece going for this.

Prepare yourselves.

I can't wait.



Do you know what Moses meant when he said Crossover? I'm kinda confused now. I though that it just meant that you stick more than one genre in a song, but I could also see how he could have meant that you mix genres, kind of a fusion thing.


If anyone could answer this, that'd be great. I need to know whether or not I should start rewriting this song for the comp.

MetalOz
09-18-2006, 05:12 PM
I think it would work either way. I intent to do different parts of the song in different genres i.e. country intro, metal verse, disco chorus, blues solo, etc...

adamstartin
09-18-2006, 05:21 PM
I think it would work either way. I intent to do different parts of the song in different genres i.e. country intro, metal verse, disco chorus, blues solo, etc... That sounds so cool already haha

Nepenthe
09-18-2006, 06:12 PM
When you say you're no fanatic anymore, you mean like you don't check out bands from it to no end anymore, right ? You still love the stuff you loved from it before, right ?


That is correct.

Stormrider
09-18-2006, 06:44 PM
Ahh...

/is able to sleep again :p

Kage
09-18-2006, 06:46 PM
I can't wait.



Do you know what Moses meant when he said Crossover? I'm kinda confused now. I though that it just meant that you stick more than one genre in a song, but I could also see how he could have meant that you mix genres, kind of a fusion thing.


If anyone could answer this, that'd be great. I need to know whether or not I should start rewriting this song for the comp.
My advice is to keep doing what you're doing (that is, provided you're happy with it). Moses left it extremely vague--so let's stick that to him and do whatever the hell you want with it. If it's got multiple genres that aren't just subgenres, then it's fine.

Moses
09-18-2006, 11:04 PM
My advice is to keep doing what you're doing (that is, provided you're happy with it). Moses left it extremely vague--so let's stick that to him and do whatever the hell you want with it. If it's got multiple genres that aren't just subgenres, then it's fine.

That was exactly my intention.

Invicta_Veritas
09-19-2006, 10:48 PM
Well, for one, I'm not going to have very much Internet access for a while, and for two, I'll be abstaining this time around anyway...not a theme that I'm taking very seriously.

Kage
09-19-2006, 10:49 PM
I don't see why you wouldn't take it seriously...it's probably the best theme we've had so far...opens up the most room for creativity at least.

Dr. Jake Destructo
09-20-2006, 01:51 AM
Definitely. I mean, why not just juxtapose something from your acoustic and death metal/screw being accurate projects? :p

I'm having a hard time with the second half of a my song. So far, I have like 3.5 minutes of a very simple electronica song, and I want to meld the sound into a more sludgy rock sound...I've had no inspiration thus far. :-/

adamstartin
09-20-2006, 11:22 AM
It looks like i'll be forgoing this month's compo, im dedicating my songwriting time to improving my lead skills, casue at the moment theyre pretty much non-existent and limited to one minor pentatonic shape haha

Kage
09-20-2006, 03:12 PM
Why not just use the shapes you know to greater effect? I mean, you can do a lot with one simple scale shape if you're adventurous with what's going underneath the lead.

Moses
09-20-2006, 04:07 PM
Well, for one, I'm not going to have very much Internet access for a while, and for two, I'll be abstaining this time around anyway...not a theme that I'm taking very seriously.

Maybe you're just not capable of doing it successfully?

Magicaltroll
09-20-2006, 08:26 PM
Why not just use the shapes you know to greater effect? I mean, you can do a lot with one simple scale shape if you're adventurous with what's going underneath the lead.

Seriously.


Some people think talent is being able to play lightning fast, or knowing everything there is to know about music theory. While those help, it's really just about how good your ideas are, and how original you can be.

While I'm HUGELY influenced by all my favorite bands, I still stay original, or atleast try to. All you have to do is try new things, and you'll be good.


That's just my opinion though.

Moses
09-20-2006, 11:46 PM
Seriously.


Some people think talent is being able to play lightning fast, or knowing everything there is to know about music theory. While those help, it's really just about how good your ideas are, and how original you can be.

While I'm HUGELY influenced by all my favorite bands, I still stay original, or atleast try to. All you have to do is try new things, and you'll be good.


That's just my opinion though.

I stongly believe in showing off when you're improvising, but you have to beable to do it perfectly with the chord changes or I think you're bullpoopting. Also make sure you're showing off how good of a musician you are and not how fast you can play. There's a big difference, though you can do them at the same time.

Of course, the main thing you should be doing when improvising is trying to get a musical idea across but it's always fun to get a couple raised eyebrows.

Kage
09-21-2006, 12:19 AM
I generally don't show off when I'm improvising, because I don't really have the impressive chops to show off. I just try to convey the idea, and I try to play with as strange modal shifts as possible.

Moses
09-21-2006, 12:21 AM
This is a great example of a good chop heavy, yet still very expressive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bh9jcRRyiJ8

Notice how he shreds alot but it's completely in key and every note is perfectly placed. He also combines alot of interesting scales in the solo. Andreas Oberg is probably one of the hottest jazz players around right now.

Kage
09-21-2006, 12:23 AM
Well, I've got chops like that. I don't generally use them like that though because I just don't like playing in that style that much. I find I can be more expressive in different ways.

Moses
09-21-2006, 12:36 AM
Well, I've got chops like that. I don't generally use them like that though because I just don't like playing in that style that much. I find I can be more expressive in different ways.

You can play like that!?!? Or are you just talking about the way he bebops? You have to notice the ways he does it to fully grasp what is so great about this guy.

Kage
09-21-2006, 12:44 AM
You can play like that!?!? Or are you just talking about the way he bebops? You have to notice the ways he does it to fully grasp what is so great about this guy.
Obviously he's way better than me, but some of the faster stuff he did I can do. Not all of it. Anyway, I have a completely different style regardless. I liked it though.

adamstartin
09-21-2006, 09:36 AM
Hmm, i may enter this after a chnage of desicion, ive actually started doing theory from 11.00pm to 2.00am in the morning, ive finally learnt the whole minor pentatonic shapes in one night, yay! So if i get time, i will enter.

Magicaltroll
09-21-2006, 11:04 AM
Haha, I watched that video, and I was like "man, this guy isn't that great, I can do that stuff easily!"


Then I got about halfway through the song :(

adamstartin
09-21-2006, 11:10 AM
This is a great example of a good chop heavy, yet still very expressive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bh9jcRRyiJ8

Notice how he shreds alot but it's completely in key and every note is perfectly placed. He also combines alot of interesting scales in the solo. Andreas Oberg is probably one of the hottest jazz players around right now.

Pff, THIS is an example of amazing musicianship http://youtube.com/watch?v=h3uRBaWThe8&search=chacarron

Magicaltroll
09-21-2006, 12:35 PM
Pff, THIS is an example of amazing musicianship http://youtube.com/watch?v=h3uRBaWThe8&search=chacarron

Hahahahahahahhaha


That is the funniest thing I've ever heard!
Does he really have a record deal?

adamstartin
09-21-2006, 01:11 PM
Hahahahahahahhaha


That is the funniest thing I've ever heard!
Does he really have a record deal? Yeh, and apparently it was really big in latin America. :confused:

Moses
09-21-2006, 04:09 PM
Haha, I watched that video, and I was like "man, this guy isn't that great, I can do that stuff easily!"


Then I got about halfway through the song :(

Lol, yes. Not many can touch him.

Kage
09-21-2006, 04:11 PM
I didn't find it to be that great. My guitar instructor could run circles around that guy in his sleep.

Based on that video.

repcak
09-21-2006, 04:26 PM
whats about (death) metal mixed with a classical finger typed style? in addition maybe some punk or (hard) rock... will this pass?

i play 99% metal on my guitar... whats about lyrics/vocals... or can it be instrumental?

Kage
09-21-2006, 04:28 PM
That seems fine to me. Instrumental is fine too. Get to work! :)

repcak
09-21-2006, 04:35 PM
ok, i have a guitar, some ideas (already some old riffs i wrote since i started playing guitar) i have a voice, can write stupid lyrics... hm... one thing: drums? how can i do drums and add them to the Kristal audio engine?

adamstartin
09-21-2006, 04:41 PM
If you can add audio tracks to kristal audio engine, just create your drum beats with a program like beatcraft or fruityloops then export them as a wav.

repcak
09-21-2006, 04:43 PM
are they freeware?

adamstartin
09-21-2006, 04:45 PM
are they freeware?Not in the strictest sense of the word . . . .

Kage
09-21-2006, 04:47 PM
:lol: Very nice adam.

briston
09-22-2006, 04:30 AM
Hey, I found this music contest site at freemymusic.com. seemed interesting, but wanted to know if anyone here was a part of that site?

MRDuCran
09-22-2006, 09:11 PM
I still might enter this actually, I started writing a punky metal song, inspired by Children of Bodom's cover of Hellion.

Drunken Viking
09-22-2006, 09:16 PM
Does anyone have any good free recording programs, besides audacity?

Magicaltroll
09-22-2006, 09:58 PM
Does anyone have any good free recording programs, besides audacity?

Get Bittornado, then download a torrent that has Sonar 4 or something like that in it.

Shattered_Future
09-22-2006, 11:46 PM
Whoa...

That rambling dude...man, I thought it was some random guy just rambling. He's all over ytmnd. I didn't realize it was an actual PERSON.

Anyways, man, I should find a singer to do this song I wrote. Either that, or beef it up so I don't need vocals.

Magicaltroll
09-24-2006, 03:45 PM
Whoa...

That rambling dude...man, I thought it was some random guy just rambling. He's all over ytmnd. I didn't realize it was an actual PERSON.

Anyways, man, I should find a singer to do this song I wrote. Either that, or beef it up so I don't need vocals.

If you liked my vocals on any of the Animal Cruelty songs (my solo thing, if you've ever heard it), I'll do the vocals like that if you'd like me too.



If you haven't heard it, here's the site to listen -


http://www.myspace.com/citbgow



I sing on Mormon Terrorism, and the later part of Planes Don't Kill People, People In Planes Kill People.

Shattered_Future
09-24-2006, 05:13 PM
Can you actually sing though, or is it just growls? I want an actual singer...

Magicaltroll
09-24-2006, 05:23 PM
Can you actually sing though, or is it just growls? I want an actual singer...

Nah, I'm not a singer :p

Sorry, I tried :/

Shattered_Future
09-24-2006, 05:38 PM
Eh, don't worry about it. I'm gonna try to find one this week.

Magicaltroll
09-26-2006, 02:11 PM
I've got a "preview" for my song, and I'd like if you guys told me what you think about it.

My vocals aren't that great, I'm not a vocalist, so keep that in mind (I kinda ripped off Electric Wizard with the distorted singing :p). And I'm also gonna be touching the song up and adding a ton more, but this is what I got from recording this morning.

So this is basically the intro, kind of.

It's called "Addi-what?".

http://www.snapdrive.net/files/52848/addi-what.mp3

repcak
09-26-2006, 02:31 PM
aren't previews forbidden in the competition?

Magicaltroll
09-26-2006, 02:35 PM
aren't previews forbidden in the competition?

I thought you could show people what you had already, so they could tell you if you're going in the right direction?


edit -
"A SAMPLE OF YOUR SUBMISSION DOES NOT COUNT AS AN EDIT. IF YOU UPLOAD A SAMPLE FOR US, WE WILL GIVE YOU AN OPINION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT YOU ARE HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION."

repcak
09-26-2006, 02:46 PM
ah, ok.. my mistake, sorry

adamstartin
09-26-2006, 04:29 PM
I've got a "preview" for my song, and I'd like if you guys told me what you think about it.

My vocals aren't that great, I'm not a vocalist, so keep that in mind (I kinda ripped off Electric Wizard with the distorted singing :p). And I'm also gonna be touching the song up and adding a ton more, but this is what I got from recording this morning.

So this is basically the intro, kind of.

It's called "Addi-what?".

http://www.snapdrive.net/files/52848/addi-what.mp3 It actually sounds alright. What other genre are you adding into it? Or is this classified information?

BTW my song has tunred into a prog/funk/fusion/jazz/metal song :confused:

Dr. Jake Destructo
09-27-2006, 12:01 AM
Sorry everyone, but I think I'm too lazy to write a song for this.

Shoot, and I was sooo damn excited about it three weeks ago. :(

Kage
09-27-2006, 12:09 AM
Sorry everyone, but I think I'm too lazy to write a song for this.

Shoot, and I was sooo damn excited about it three weeks ago. :(

Damn you.

Crickets On A Plane
09-27-2006, 02:25 AM
Damn you.

oh go away

Ramsey
09-27-2006, 06:24 AM
Wow...after about a 2 years, my competition is still going smoothly.


Amazing you guys kept it up this long. I regret leaving. :(

Lord of Sword
09-27-2006, 10:13 PM
I'll try and come up with something before the deadline. I was going to do heavy metal ragtime, but can't come up with a ragtime song, so I'm probably going to do something like Harry Gregson-Williams' MGS music or the Black Mages' songs from Advent Children, an electronic/heavy metal/orchestral mix.

Kage
09-28-2006, 12:27 AM
Just a few minor touch ups for mine and I'm ready to submit.

Looking forward to everyone's submissions.

Dr. Jake Destructo
09-28-2006, 01:30 AM
Are you still doing a jazz/doom song?

Kage
09-28-2006, 09:44 AM
Was I ever? Regardless, no, I'm not. It's got jazz, rock, and noise/drone, I guess.

And a hint of 80s new wave :cool:

ATC
09-28-2006, 09:38 PM
Folk/trip-hop works,right? If so, I want in.

Kage
09-28-2006, 09:40 PM
Folk/trip-hop works,right? If so, I want in.

Absolutely.

ATC
09-28-2006, 09:47 PM
Here's mine then. It's got zero rock/metal in it so I'd rather people not critique it as one.

hxxp://download.yousendit.com/11901B5C7289F99D

Kage
09-28-2006, 10:51 PM
Really, really digging this bro. Good work. Female vocals +++.

Haven't I heard some of your music before? I recall liking it, but I might be getting you mixed up with someone else.

Dr. Jake Destructo
09-29-2006, 01:37 AM
Was I ever? Regardless, no, I'm not. It's got jazz, rock, and noise/drone, I guess.

And a hint of 80s new wave :cool:

Oh, never mind. I recall hearing jazz and drone, and mutated it into jazz and doom, something I'm more familiar with. Well, looking forward to it regardless.

Perhaps sans the new wave..Although it might just work.

Any tabla? Tabla would be bomb.

Kage
09-29-2006, 01:52 AM
I wanted to add some tabla but it just didn't fit anywhere in the song.

The new wave works, especially if you understand the concept behind the song.

EDIT: Oh, and ambient, I forgot that. So it's like jazz/ambient/rock/dronenoise/new wave.

ATC
09-29-2006, 05:22 AM
Glad you like it,Kage. I think we're familiar with each other's music. I remember liking and commenting on your songs, off the MXers bands thread that Moses had. I must say though, that's one interesting cluster**** of genres. I can't say I've heard any jazz/ambient/rock/dronenoise/new wave before. I'm either going to be extremely impressed or bored outta my skull by that combination. If I want to fit an instrument I think is really cool, generally I use filters and bitcrushers on the loop and keep it way in the background and when its not out of place, reduce the effects and bring it a wee bit forward. Incredibly subtle is the easiest way to keep a Jarana guitar or a xylophone or tablas in every song.

Nick
09-30-2006, 05:58 PM
when's the deadline?

Kage
09-30-2006, 06:01 PM
THE DEADLINE FOR THIS COMPETITION WILL BE MONDAY, OCTOBER 9TH, 11:59:59PM EDT (-5 GmT).

Nick
09-30-2006, 06:22 PM
sorry, missed that in the first post. I thought it was today and was worried about time zone wierd goings on

thanks

Kage
09-30-2006, 06:24 PM
:lol: Yeah, I gotcha.

Abhorrent incarnate
09-30-2006, 07:11 PM
cool!

repcak
09-30-2006, 07:42 PM
i won't be able to record anything in time... maybe next time...

Kage
09-30-2006, 09:20 PM
i won't be able to record anything in time... maybe next time...

:(

You people are just lazy.

repcak
10-01-2006, 05:29 AM
not lazy: not able to play guitar

Shattered_Future
10-01-2006, 12:10 PM
I have a song I recorded out of boredom a week or ago that might go well with this. Maybe I'll enter that one.

pate
10-01-2006, 12:12 PM
I probably won't be entering this time around. :mad:

JamJar
10-01-2006, 01:49 PM
I've wanted to enter the last few competitions but the theme/genre hasn't really fitted in with what I do and I've had such little free time. The same applies for this time around as well. :(

Win A Rabbit
10-01-2006, 02:52 PM
I'd like to enter these, but seeing as I don't have an amp myself, and my ex-guitarist is planning to come pick up his amp right away, I wouldn't be able to record the guitar parts. Maybe I'd be able to for this one, but I doubt he'll leave it here any longer than another week or two.

I'm always writing songs from as many genres as I can think of, but the only way I can get them into mp3 form is through Fruity Loops.

So can I still not enter these comps?

If not, could I still submit an entry and just get crits on it, and you can leave it out of the voting process?

Dr. Jake Destructo
10-01-2006, 02:56 PM
I'd like to enter these, but seeing as I don't have an amp myself, and my ex-guitarist is planning to come pick up his amp right away, I wouldn't be able to record the guitar parts. Maybe I'd be able to for this one, but I doubt he'll leave it here any longer than another week or two.


Considering that the song dealine is in a week, that shouldn't be a problem for you.

And yes, you can still submit a song, as long as it is before October 9th.

adamstartin
10-01-2006, 03:17 PM
I wasnt planning to enter anything this month, but there doesnt seem to be many entrants so if i can chuck something togther in a week, i might enter. Ive only done about 1/3 of the drums so far, its a metal funk song :confused:

Moses
10-01-2006, 03:51 PM
Sorry, I can't enter this one. Not enough time.

WHOO 8000th post

Kage
10-01-2006, 06:55 PM
What are there, like three songs in this one?

Nepenthe
10-01-2006, 07:03 PM
I started recording my song earlier today, but I'm not sure if it's actually going to be fit for this comp haha. So far it's not looking like it's going to be crossing any genres, but if it ends up not being entered for that reason I'll post it up in the community thread or something later this week.

Jelle Strikes Back
10-01-2006, 07:58 PM
I probably won't be entering this time around. :mad:

Likewise. I'll vote though. ^)^

Moses
10-01-2006, 11:45 PM
What are there, like three songs in this one?

It's mostly because September is such a busy month.

adamstartin
10-02-2006, 02:53 PM
Hmm, heres a little sample i threw together. Its just the first verse (ignore the first 13 seconds, a funky intro still needs to go in). My mate says its crap and i should scrap it and start again, but before i do i'd like t get a second opinion.

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=586637

Kage
10-02-2006, 05:33 PM
I think it sounds good, intriguing but far too short to really get anything substantial from it.

Moses
10-02-2006, 09:59 PM
Heh, kinda cool adamstartin.

Dr. Jake Destructo
10-02-2006, 10:50 PM
That's an interesting start, Adam. Now, you need to get some contrasting vox on that too. :p I'm thinking Cedric Bixer Zavala vs. Mikael Akerfeldt. \m/

Moses
10-02-2006, 11:08 PM
I think Chris Cornell vs. Al Jarreau would be more fitting.

MetalOz
10-03-2006, 09:10 AM
I actually only have one completed submission at the moment. You guys have through this weekend to get them submitted.

I've been insanely busy myself but I will get my entry finished in time!

Kage
10-03-2006, 09:26 AM
My entry is done, I'm just keeping the suspense up by not submitting it until the last moment.

Plus, that leaves it open to minor edits and additions should they occur to me in the next few days.

Invicta_Veritas
10-03-2006, 12:02 PM
Maybe you're just not capable of doing it successfully?

...or maybe I simply don't have the regular internet access I'm used to...

...or maybe I'm swamped right now with far more serious and pending musical projects here...

...or maybe I just don't personally agree with the theme because it's not who I am and I can't express myself seriously crossing through genres that I'm really not into...



Does everything have to be so hostile? Damn, man, I just don't have the time or the wherewithal to do this right now, compounded by the fact that the theme just really isn't for me.

You really don't have to attack my musicianship, dude.

Kage
10-03-2006, 12:07 PM
What a great word, "wherewithal." I've got to find more places to squeeze that in.

Invicta_Veritas
10-03-2006, 12:09 PM
I misspelled it, huh?

Kage
10-03-2006, 12:10 PM
I don't know. You used it well though, that's what counts.

Invicta_Veritas
10-03-2006, 12:13 PM
Haha...that seemed to be the best word at the moment I guess...

Anyway, hopefully next month some of my band's stuff should be settled so I can try to participate then...

Moses
10-03-2006, 01:21 PM
...or maybe I simply don't have the regular internet access I'm used to...

...or maybe I'm swamped right now with far more serious and pending musical projects here...

...or maybe I just don't personally agree with the theme because it's not who I am and I can't express myself seriously crossing through genres that I'm really not into...



Does everything have to be so hostile? Damn, man, I just don't have the time or the wherewithal to do this right now, compounded by the fact that the theme just really isn't for me.

You really don't have to attack my musicianship, dude.

haha, i was kiddin

Kage
10-03-2006, 06:28 PM
I've just been fine-tuning my song for this competition, and it's sounding pretty good. I'll be interested to get everyone's feedback on it.

Dr. Jake Destructo
10-03-2006, 07:08 PM
Then let me hear it douche.

/eager

PS: Corey - Wherewithall. That's awesome.

Kage
10-03-2006, 07:11 PM
I might be able to hook you up with a private listening, but I'm not posting it in here until the last minute.

Dr. Jake Destructo
10-03-2006, 07:16 PM
Kk, Maybe I'll convert to Trillian again for old times sake.

Kage
10-03-2006, 07:18 PM
Trillian?

Dr. Jake Destructo
10-03-2006, 07:26 PM
IM service that caters AIM MSN and Yahoo at the same time.

Unfortunately, you're not on AIM as I would have assumed, so do you just wanna email it to me?

spiralout7 at gmail.com

Kage
10-03-2006, 07:59 PM
Getting on AIM now.

Dr. Jake Destructo
10-04-2006, 12:37 AM
For the record everyone, Kage's song is pretty avant-badass.

Also for the record, I just used wherewithall in a conversation. Thanks Corey.

Kage
10-04-2006, 11:26 AM
Thanks.

I haven't used wherewithal yet, but I'm waiting!

repcak
10-04-2006, 12:36 PM
Kage can you send me the link to your song?

Nick
10-06-2006, 07:23 PM
sup thread

finally finished my entry

recording isn't perfect, and if any drummers hanging around want to record a drum part before its due, speak now, or I'm submitting it.

Shattered_Future
10-07-2006, 05:19 PM
hxxp://download.yousendit.com/F63B0C6D20466EA6

Finally got around to uploading it. It's been done since close to the beginning. :smash:

Kage
10-08-2006, 10:46 PM
http://www.sendspace.com/file/l6zu46

Therein lies my official entry!

MetalOz
10-09-2006, 09:45 AM
The only other entry I have besides the 2 directly above this post is from ATC. I am going to submit the song that I posted on page 2 of this thread. There's no way I am going to finish the other song I'm working on by tonight.

Kage
10-09-2006, 09:47 AM
Well this is the pits, isn't it?

I guess the competition will be more fierce. :evil:

pate
10-09-2006, 09:47 AM
Damn. This was a good theme too, but nobody has any free time in September/October.

Kage
10-09-2006, 09:49 AM
I guess that is one factor, with schools starting back up and things of this nature. But, still, such a broad topic and no one could come up with a lousy quick and/or rough recording at least?

pate
10-09-2006, 03:38 PM
I had some ideas, but I didn't want to turn in a shitty song and didn't have time to write a proper one.

Kage
10-09-2006, 03:39 PM
I dig.

Shattered_Future
10-09-2006, 03:39 PM
I was really bored one day, and wrote that song that I submitted. I rather like it...

Kage
10-09-2006, 03:41 PM
I was going to listen to it, but I don't want to be pre-disposed to the songs before the voting. I liked it like that last time because I hadn't heard any of the songs before (except maybe one or two) and I was able to judge them free of bias.

Shattered_Future
10-09-2006, 03:42 PM
Very true...though I'm not biased towards anyone here.

Nepenthe
10-09-2006, 03:54 PM
I should be able to turn in the first 4 or 5 minutes of what my song was going to be later tonight. It's only like 1/3 of what it should be, but it's all I've had time for.

JamJar
10-09-2006, 03:58 PM
I've got an industrial/ambient/metal song which is half complete/nowhere near perfect that I wrote ages ago that I could submit if the competition is really lacking competitors.

adamstartin
10-09-2006, 04:35 PM
Hmm, i suppose due to the lack of competitiors, i'll enter a song just to make sure no one else is last haha. www.soundclick.com/skeksis ,its silent siren. I seriously didnt have time time to write anything decent this month, so this is an incomplete song i wrote ages ago.

JamJar
10-09-2006, 05:03 PM
I've sent my half finished song which I'm no where near happy with to Oz. Hopefully it shoudn't go down too badly.

MetalOz
10-09-2006, 06:27 PM
Hmm, i suppose due to the lack of competitiors, i'll enter a song just to make sure no one else is last haha. www.soundclick.com/skeksis ,its silent siren. I seriously didnt have time time to write anything decent this month, so this is an incomplete song i wrote ages ago.

It's Silent Siren, not the one labeled multi genre song?

Nick
10-09-2006, 07:43 PM
k I've go it on uploaded cause soundclick is being a bitch

http://www.sendspace.com/file/r7k6dj

Silenius
10-09-2006, 10:17 PM
I made this song for a upcoming split that the band I'm in is doing, so I think this is a good chance to get some feedback, it has melo-death, black, ambient, classicalish, metal elements, so I think it should fit well into the theme. The mic I used is pretty ****ty so sorry for the poor vocal production, it clips sometimes, especially with high-decibal equalization.

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=0EF5866C5F9B8DD7

///FINAL\\\

Nepenthe
10-09-2006, 10:47 PM
This is not an entrance

Well, I didn't get anywhere near finishing my song, but here's what I had so far.

http://download.yousendit.com/4B917C7E0110A2B2

MetalOz
10-09-2006, 11:55 PM
This is not an entrance

Well, I didn't get anywhere near finishing my song, but here's what I had so far.

http://download.yousendit.com/4B917C7E0110A2B2

But you don't want it in the competition??? :confused:

adamstartin
10-10-2006, 04:02 AM
It's Silent Siren, not the one labeled multi genre song? Yeh thats it. The one labelled multi genre didnt turn out well enough.